Aegis Vanguard Sentinel Review | A Star Citizen's Buyer's Guide | Alpha 3.11

[@SubliminaLstv]

Updated Sentinel Load-out ► subliminal.gg/aegis-vanguard-sentinel-loadout/

[@Tom-Servo]

“The first things you’ll notice is the size 5...”. No. The first thing I noticed were those two giant guns hanging on your back. Are they dragging the ground? Lol

[@Nemoticon]

^^ lol

[@Vashocre]

I own this ship and its my favorite hands down. I named it Vera and I have done some crazy stuff in it including killing more than 50 enemies and still made it back to refuel. Great video! Thanks for giving my baby some love! Please do a new ship battle with it!

[@donkstamper1335]

What's the keybind to switch guns or shot both weapons at once? The EMP is set up on my 2nd weapon spot which is messing me up. (I plan to change it all around I just need to find the keybind to switch).

[@mayoluck]

@@donkstamper1335 you change it in the MFD if you havent figured it out yet. The weapons MFD to be exact.

[@rahlap2449]

I usually dont judge a ship based on features that are not yet in the game but man I do love that this ship has e-war on top of all what it already has to offer. Insane combat package. The biggest downside of all the Vanguards are its 4s2 weapons. Always fixed and only size 2. That limits their use vs very nimble and heavily armored ships. But since armor is not yet in the game, it doesnt matter. But size 2 weapons not penetrating heavier armor is something people should keep in mind.

[@elischrock5356]

I just traded in my warden for a sentinel. I hope I don't regret it when the game goes live.

[@krozareq]

A voice 6 months from the future says: next patch the EMP will no longer get you a CS :D Going to get one with some aUEC

[@Rikpro432]

@@krozareq a voice from the future says that you can earn easy money now

[@adamdonovan8731]

Amazing ship with one of the sexiest interiors out there. Cheers for the vid, Subliminal.

[@LabeilleCreative]

9:23 that destiny reference

[@f3ritecore251]

The paint scheme reminds me of the blue angels!

[@CMDR-Ashtar]

Love my Sentinal! I'd take it over harbinger emp forces smaller ships to keep their distance and it shreds targets at distance. Wouldnt spend real money on it and ingame price is too low. It should cost more auec then a sabre considering it cost 100$ more in real money. Not that I'm complaining.

[@thesle3p]

I don't think the full utility of the Sentinel will be known till E-war is in game.

[@brockoala2994]

I hope they gib it an ability to hack other ship's systems to randomly shut them down, as replacement for its EMP device. But that would mean it'd be no longer a solo E-war capable ship, there gotta be a second player to operate the E-war station. I like it better that way.

[@rahlap2449]

@@brockoala2994 Yeah same here. If they really get rid of the EMP (is that confirmed?) the e-war capabilities would more than please me. And the best part about it: e-war gameplay sounds hard to be done by AI or an NPC. So the Sentinel could turn out to be a true multi-crew ship which is great.

[@camilorodriguez5603]

I always light up with excitement whenever my notifications tell me we’ve got another ship review inbound

[@unadoptedpuppy3535]

I’ve got my eye on the harbinger. Mostly because the warden is so expensive (auec wise)

[@brockoala2994]

The counter measures work very well now in 3.11, so missiles are not very powerful any more. EMP is now the king, and Sentinel is on top of it.

[@buzzfightbeer8023]

@@brockoala2994 I'm here from the future (PTU is Alpha 3.17.1). EM missiles are the shit. Especially in PVE. The Vanguards are incredible heavy fighters!

[@voxel_sc]

Thats crazy. I own a Sentinel and i always thought thats the "weakest" option. So wrong, i am in shame

[@CrazennCajunn]

favorite family of ships in the game. i loved the arrow but that single shield just killed it for me

[@syntience_music]

Wonderful! Harbinger next??

[@bumblebriannah]

Great vid as always!

[@cng979]

You sir have no respect for us hard working miners in the verse that make sure that we mine the material needed to make your ships lol i would like to see a Argo mole vid :)

[@Zalatian]

Snazzy armor and weapon pairing for the walkaround.

[@nickokona6849]

I love the looks of this Vanguard.

[@SubliminaLstv]

agreed

[@jamesdavis3177]

had a real tuff time all week before the sale to decide the vanguards,,warden or sentinal..thnx u my friend will be going sentinal in the morning,,vey

[@raley-8469]

How does it do up against high paying bounty’s mate?

[@jetstumpy]

Been waiting for this! Bet it was fun/frustrating to have the way EMP works change in between your videos on the Sentinel.

[@51ghardy]

Thanks for doing this series. The Vanguard series is one I looked forward to seeing from you.

[@artsolano6762]

Ive flown the Vanguard since it first hit AC. It doesn't have the agility to angle fight. It doesn't have the speed to run away. It does have great fire power but its gun setup is completely wonky. Fixed guns in the nose are size 2 and are best for short range, while the huge gimbaled gun under the nose is best for long range. That is backwards. Short range weapons need to be gimbaled more than long ranged ones. Ideally the Vanguard line should allow you to go both fixed or both gimbaled. The other problem is its large silhouette make a huge target if you decided to dog fight in it.

[@rahlap2449]

To me the Vanguard is no dogfighter. I know that some people use it for that and even with great success but to me the Vanguard is a ship that has to deal with other heavier fighters like a Super Hornet, a Freelancer MIS, a Connie, etc. These are its targets. I agree that the 4s2 weapons seem stupid because of their ammo range and armor penetration rate tho. But if the big gun lowers the shields and you get close enough to a big target, the nose guns will do work too. All in all I love the Sentinel for its future e-war gameplay, the great amenities and small multi-crew gameplay. Three players should always find work on that ship so thats great for its size. But yeah, the weaponry feels sometimes weird.

[@caph7798]

Havent been able to play SC for a year cause of work and because of SC detecting my PS4 controller and screwing up my controls whenever I did try to play. Got back into it recently. Gotta say man, I missed you and your vids.

[@pierrelofinusound3020]

Excellent, i'm inlove with my warden, but constantly look for a way to improve his DPS

[@Trancecend]

I like the care you take to keep your info up to date, like the buggy terminal that was fixed in 3.11. Hope you get a lot of subs, you earned mine!

[@solothkaroftrinsic3852]

The Vanguard has an ejection system. The whole middle compartment acts as an escape pod for the whole crew. The escape pod tech is not yet in for any of the ships.

[@SubliminaLstv]

All of that is correct but I think it only applies to the warden.

[@solothkaroftrinsic3852]

@@SubliminaLstv This is from the 2nd Q&A of the Vaguard Variants: *What would be the benefit of keeping the Warden whose interior module is essentially only a fancy escape pod over switching to the torp bay or electronic warfare module? The Warden escape pod is the only one with long term life support and beds - escaping in this will give a greatly improved chance of being recovered without the cost of a ‘life’. The escape pod of the other variants will only give slightly improved chance over standard ejection.* So to me that sounds, escape pods for the three. But not as comfy as the one on the warden, also note the Hoplite is a structurally different Vanguard because of the ramp (which really, after the Vaguard rework does not really make sense any more) and not having a central module. Love that the Q&A still mentions the BFUK.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Hmmm was this before or after the rework?

[@Akluin30]

@@SubliminaLstv He is right, J.Crew confirmed that all variant have an escape pod (the center module), the warden bring a bigger chance to get rescued and is faster. Bring back vanguard's crew safe at home is the main purpose of the ship.

[@explodogames2774]

I'm more of a warden man , but I understand why people like the sentinel. I don't think I could ever fly a yellow and blue ship . It assaults my eyes harder than 50 gladius mask hunters .

[@oldawg3934]

Being a Navy vet, I love the Blue Angels paint job!

[@rahlap2449]

Its only a matter of time before we see paint jobs for the Vanguard series. But I agree with you. Blue and yellow seems weird.

[@yugen]

@@rahlap2449 I think it's interdiction = police or navy

[@cmmmM100]

So if you had to choose between the warden and the sentinel, the sentinel would always win? Just wanna know if in should change out my warden if time comes around

[@maddogpcgs]

I thought the Vanguard series had the ejection module, its quarters behind the pilot airlock. I seem to remember that whole module would deploy as a life boat

[@nythmn5589]

Idk which one to get warden sentinel or harbinger

[@h3llb1lly889]

Sub, i cant tell you how many times ive watched this video. i absolutely love the Vanguard series, and the Sentinel in particular. i wanted one bad enough to melt my MSR when they came on sale during the Xenothreat. theres just something about them. theyre... imposing, intimidating, and just... badass. i will say though, i wish the tail numbers on the right tail fin were in the correct orientation. that bugs me.

[@asiaviktv818]

My biggest complaint about the vanguard series if how difficult it is to EVA with the ship. Trying to get back in especially when carrying a box is a nightmare.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Agreed. And also trying to find where to click to open the DAMN DOOR!!!

[@mayoluck]

@@SubliminaLstv thank god they added the grav gun and the door markers now.

[@abstract0014]

YEEE ANOTHER SUBLIMINAL VIDEO!

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

1/18 or 1/24 scale functional model of the AEGIS Vanguard would be great (if any) . . .

[@astellios1748]

in combined fleets is harbinger and sent good combination, because the harbinger can hold range an torp the hostile after emp shut down the shields. Personaly as sentinel pilot i have to say that the emp is impressive and can shut down a harbinger in seconds.

[@collegestudent6071]

Harbinger can kill you with torps well before you get in EMP range. And the Sentinel isn't going to have an EMP in the future, it's just a placeholder till they implement other forms of electronic warfare.

[@ZarathustraDK]

I used to have one, but dumped it. The loadout-options are kind of crap because you always have to make sacrifices to line up the pips (a lot more compared to monoboating ships, but also compared to other ships that have access to all weapons of their respective sizes), and even then the difference in effective range between the s4/s5 and the 4xs2's is going to mess with you. Add on top the semi-gimballed nature of the S2's (not quite as small as fixed, not quite as big as fully gimballed) and that's a lot to keep track of. EMP is nice and effective, but indiscriminate; you can basically only use it when you're alone with your target, and since it's linked to firegroup 2 (IE. doesn't have its own dedicated button) you're inevitably going to piss off friendlies.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

a 1/18 or 1/24 scale of the AEGIS Vanguard Sentinel & Anvil VALKYRIE would be something . . .

[@ROMSradio]

Wow I've never seen a ship like this before...

[@MrShaz00]

thanks for the info regarding the Sentinel I have purchased one with my hard earnings UEC in-game however what's UP with NO EMP? in your video it's there on mine the unit is missing WTF? Still, it's a great ship I LOVE IT!!

[@Varthaer]

Keep it up broooo

[@Brenelael]

One thing most people get wrong with the Vanguards in general is they all want to stick a Size 5 Gun on the front. Don't do this. When you go big you seriously limit your Cap/Ammo on the Size 5 but you also slightly lower the 4 size 2's as well as slow down the fire rate on everything. You do get higher burst damage with the size 5 but over the entire fight you'll do far more damage with a Size 4 as you'll be able to sustain fire a lot longer, have a higher rate of fire on all guns and will do slightly less damage per shot but have a crap ton more shots.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Hope the following doesn't sound harsh. But this is false. It's a placebo effect. The Sustained DPS that you speak of is actually the default DPS listed on erkul. I don't make decisions based on erkul I make these decisions based on timing my TTK in recordings. Erkul recently updated the site to show sustained DPS. Now I can show people with numbers why it lowers TTK.

[@Brenelael]

@@SubliminaLstv No... I'm basing this off of my own recent personal experience with both weapon types on both the Sentinel and the Harbinger. I've tested this actually in game not just read some random website...

[@SubliminaLstv]

Again the experience is irrelevant. Unless you're timing your kills via video recording it CAN still be the placebo effect. I'm basing this off years of people telling me the same thing and whenever they break it down by seconds it's a night and day difference. I've tested it in combat as well as on empty ships. The human brain preceives the few seconds that it takes for the weapons to recharge an eternity, but It actually takes 4 seconds on this big of a ship. Even less on smaller ships. Plus the cap recharge time means less in an actual fight because you can't stay on target the whole time so recharging happens naturally. I kill most targets in one pass/salvo. Your initial comment said that I as well as everyone else is wrong. So I'm putting the burden of proof on you. Record your fastest kill in a vanguard vs a warden or Valkyrie during a VHRT mission. And I'll beat that time with my larger weapon.

[@fearlesspanda8564]

i prefer the anvil arrow for bounty hunting and pvp

[@VinnyGrant]

Should compare the Harbinger and the Warden to the MIS. Thats a ship battle I'd want to see.

[@Pendragon1989]

I've got the mis. Those quad Mantis GT-220 's will shred anything. But I think a Warden or even a Harbinger would out perform one in combat due to agility.

[@Vashocre]

My friend has a mis and harbinger and I have the sentinel. We have done several battles and to be honest, that emp is very hard to go against. The sentinel has won most battles we've tested, and while those other 2 ships are wonderful, like I said EMP is very hard to fight against when the pilot knows how to use it.

[@raizox6134]

I have a question. In 7:12 why is the warden so low? I mean, it is because you are counting the weapons that come with the ship not taking into account the max loadout?

[@parkerxgps]

A lot of people like these ships. I can't help but wonder if CIG doesn't have better in the wings.

[@kingslaphappy1533]

Hi Subliminal, getting ready to buy this but first a quick question: the Sentinel comes with stealth components such as shields, coolers, power plant etc. Is this mechanic working in 3.16.1? Should i spend money to upgrade my stealth components or are they not really doing much to reduce my EM or IR signature? Thanks in advance, i love how comprehensive your videos are.👍

[@SubliminaLstv]

Currently adding stealth components gives almost no benefit. Also almost no downside either. Except for shields use military grade A. Check out my updated loadouts on my website. Subliminal.GG/loadouts

[@kingslaphappy1533]

@@SubliminaLstv thanks, i checked out your link but was a bit confused by this regarding the weapon loadout on the Sentinel :”pros: Galdereen paired with laser repeater= high rate of fire”. But the Galdereen ‘s projectile velocity is currently listed at 700 metres / sec while the size 2 repeaters fire at twice that velocity. Woudn’t a mixed projectile speed loadout make it much harder to hit your target? Thanks again.

[@bladefist5849]

Nice ship!

[@MECANERDGAMING]

i love this tank ship

[@drksideofthewal]

Do distortion weapons actually disable ships now? From my limited testing in AC, the distortion scattergun seemed to be disabling Vanduul fighters, but I want to know if that's a fluke.

[@eric4133]

Not yet, but they do actually do the damage they should now.

[@francoisvantafelberg]

They do exceptional shield damage in the PU. Disabling seems not 100% reliable against other players, possibly due to server/desync issues, but I've disabled a few so far leaving them to float helplessly.

[@ReallyDazed]

I love my harbinger.

[@hugoserigado679]

Realy like this ship.

[@lugeneparker]

What would be best. Holding out for a redeemer or ccu from the redeemer to the Sentinel?

[@rossdavison6526]

I love these video's

[@ziganoc9018]

wangard or andromeda cant deside can you help?

[@countrycbc]

some one help what yall think for going and doing bounties and combat by yourself witch vanguard would be the best

[@mas0ny149]

How do u make that much money? I see u have 20mil auec

[@Aloha_XERO]

SubliminaL, let me say your video on assessing all of the possible options of the ever growing list of ship components to me is 2nd to none 👌. I’m sure there are some that agrees with me, cuz your skill of assembling all this to be digested in a 10 -14 min video. 🙏 Thank you .... With that being said, Brahhhhh I wanna say can we get OFF of the Vanguard and all its variants... Before anyone thinks I’m hatin on this ship, when I first saw this shit I thought it was awesome but after seeing it, flying it, going into combat... meh” I just failed to see what everyone see’s in this upgrade penguin ... Thinking of Marie Kondo ... Sorry, It doesn’t spark joy In my life 😑

[@SubliminaLstv]

Sorry man this ship is THE combat ship. PVE targets get melted before I can even identify what they are. There are no flaws other that what you'd expect from a larger ship. What is better than this for combat?

[@LeifPalmin]

I heard the distortion weapons also work now in 3.11, Do they?

[@SubliminaLstv]

Yep 😀

[@blaine8679]

Where do I buy the ship at?

[@StolenMemesNOTDEADONES]

please do the Warlock

[@txj2253]

Do we have a google docs comparison sheet?

[@SubliminaLstv]

Sorry just added it to the description.

[@blacksheepboyz]

Its my armored Uber.

[@NormFC]

So i have the BUK for this ship and the missile boat version. Have no idea HOW to swap from my warden to the sentinel load out

[@Vashocre]

You can't yet. I too have a harbinger buk for my sentinel. They regret selling them and have yet to do anything with them that I've seen. People rumor that they will just give people with buk the full ship and just not bother with it.

[@rahlap2449]

@@Vashocre Nah the latest info (only a couple of months old) is that the BUK will basically give the owner all the components that they then can manually switch in and out. I still dont know how that will work with the extra armor the Harbinger has but I guess if you apply the armor to the Sentinel it just increases its armor internally. A bigger problem should be the special cockpit the Sentinel should have. My guess is that CIG threw that idea out of the window and we will not see that ever. But who knows. The tech is already in the game so maybe they will add it to the Sentinel.

[@therealtjpek]

imo the vanguard has a bit too much. Good weapons, emp, missiles, good legs, interior space, good resistance, pretty nimble... It's the bane of fighters and bigger ships. I expect it's in-game cost to rise, and it's maintenance cost to be high once this is implemented

[@Anachroschism]

Do any turrets have ejection?

[@kunou4527]

Where can you Rent this?

[@kayski-san]

Thanks for the video subliminal. I wanted to ensure you are aware of the fact that (currently) the EMP is only temporary on the sentinel and will work slightly differently in the future. Read below: www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/dk1au6/reminder_sentinel_emp_is_temporary/ It would help for it not to be mis-sold as an EMP ship, as it will work completely differently ingame. Lets also not forget that the turret is temporary too and is meant to be an EWAR turret with some form of a dish as in the original concept - instead of having mounted weapons. www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3k286h/vanguard_sentinel_turretantenna_gun/ The sentinel is currently modified with a weaponized turret due to lack of EWAR gameplay.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Yes, I don't really care as I can just melt it if/when it becomes less viable. I also don't use the EMP I pick the sent for its extra acceleration. And lastly I'd be willing to bet my LIFE the sent won't be 100% what was initially intended. Developing a game is just ever changing and ideas. They have gone against initial ideas time and time again, we'll see.

[@kayski-san]

@@SubliminaLstv Totally, and yeah, you're probably right. I figured it may be worth a disclaimer that the sent was advertised differently in the concept and I'm positive that the turret will still change to some form of an EWAR variant. Regardless, I'm actually considering buying back an LTI sent, having tried one out recently, and like yourself - not for the EMP gameplay. Have been flying my loaner hoplite for some time and it's really a beast, the sent being so much more agile I find it to be lots more fun.

[@drgeorgec]

Good video as always. I got a problem with my Sentinel shutting off its shields after some fighting. I tried it with sukoran and fr66 in some Arlington gang bounties and CS4. Power and cooling is grade A. Anybody else got this problem?

[@bubbavox]

Maybe make sure your power plant can supply enough power draw? Grade 1 doesn't necessarily mean high power draw -- it also reflects power draw request time and heat signatures. If you build your ship's loadout at erkul.games it will show you the power required. My Sentinel has 1 Eclipse & 1 JS-400. Subliminal's recommended 2X Eclipse wasn't quite enough power for my loadout, and the default power plant supplies even less.

[@drgeorgec]

@@bubbavox Yes of course everything was checked and enough and multiple components where tested meeting the requirements ofc. Ther problem I think is on the buggy MFDS that some times that i have not identified, poer sliders get lowered or shield power sliders get lowered unintentionally in the middle of the dogfight causing this problem. I found switching to self status and target status the top mfds solves this problem.

[@vosdraug4628]

No gimbals :(

[@jackwu3185]

its got a fucking EMP! Lmao! love your vids

[@CFox.7]

8:34.. pls ... it is "losing"... one o

[@Vecshan]

The sentinel will lose the turret and emp in favor of hacking atena, so is not that great in the long run, you should have mentioned this.

[@Spelljammer1]

that's interesting, one of my main aesthetic drawbacks for the vanguards is how silly that turret 'cupola' looks like--as if it was added in Lego. (The big gun suffers the same eyesore for me). maybe the antena saves it!

[@rahlap2449]

I wouldnt bet on that. A lot of ships had changes to them over the years. I wouldnt be surprised if they just deleted the EMP once e-war is implemented and leave the turret as it is. That way the second player has to decide between shoting the turret or manning the e-war station. Opens up more decisions which is something CIG likes. YOu can see that in the MSR. Only 3 beds but work stations for 5. So the 3 players have to be situational aware and switch to positions where they are most needed. But if they really strip the Vanguard of the EMP aswell as its weapon turret, I would still be ok with it since I hope that e-war is giong to be a big thing. Right now there is only really one dedicated e-war ship and that is the Sentinel. The Herald is more a hacking, data collecting ship and not suited for combat.

[@AdjudicatorBrbal]

My only con for my harbinger is the damn ramp when reentering from EVA. Getting stuck or dying is not what i paid $271 for!!!

[@josabee6612]

having the wings extended in space makes no sense

[@SubliminaLstv]

🤔

[@Ancyker]

Right now a lot of things are tied together that don't really need to be. Eventually they'll probably be split up.

[@louhodo5761]

They already nerfed the EMP.... But I still love the Sentinal. If it was as fast as the Warden it would be perfect.

[@mrboleus8240]

It's cheap because of color.. xD

[@shaftoe195]

Now wait for Vanguards to be nerfed into the ground.

[@AdjudicatorBrbal]

Im melting mines if they nerf them. Its a heavy bomber what do them wimps expect!!?

[@Boomstick154]

@@AdjudicatorBrbal Not to have my 890 & Reclaimer be permanently shut down by a single emp hit and force me to reclaim them both?

[@brockoala2994]

@@Boomstick154 How do you even EMP a 890? I never could successfully land an EMP on the 890.

[@Boomstick154]

@@brockoala2994 Go to the front pad on the 890

[@InquisitorDrake]

first

[@tjgob00m]

OP needs nerf