Submitting Coins For Grading What Grades Do You Really Get? Is it Worth It?

Submitting Coins For Grading What Grades Do You Really Get? Is it Worth It?
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[@CoinHELPu]

Submitting Coins For Grading What Grades Do You Really Get? Is it Worth It? My coin shop website portsmouthcoinshop.com/

[@jeremynelson6896]

I was wondering if I had a 1966 double die reverse say mid state 64 65 what would it be worth

[@jeremynelson6896]

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[@bradcollins1879]

I absolutely agree Daniel nice video an that definitely opens some eyes up. Pictures on forums dont do any justice for what a coin really looks like. Thanks for video.

[@dekauffman]

Daniel, I agree with your video that so many people think they have a much better graded raw coin in hand, that they are disappointed in both, bank account and results when Item gets returned. I too, had many coins sent in, only to sit back later and wonder, what the hell was I thinking... I can say I learn on grading on every single coin getting returned whether its what grade, cleaned or damage. But more importantly, any Gem coin out there, was most likely in and out of a slab many times, and just get recycled. The professional Graders probably think, Oh gosh, here that coin is again trying to slip through... Thanks again for another well put video

[@jeffwyrwa2823]

So glad you did this video. I am going to send in a few (5 or less) and I am waiting, and thinking, and taking a CLOSE 2nd and 3rd and 4th look at them. In my opinion, you need to really scrutinize when you look at these coins. It's hard to get that "money grade" as you say.

[@jackfrost9593]

💥I love these new video ideas💥 All based on real life coin questions & Possibilities........ Awsome👍👍👍👍👍

[@josepchwill1304]

One thing I learned a few years ago is that it is primarily the obverse that carries the coin. Thanks for another video.

[@jeffbell5125]

Thanks, once again a master class, and I didn't feel like I was talked down too, info was excellent.

[@teddyted137]

This topic has helped me save money this year. Your last line was great on driving home this message for everyone.

[@TheRecordNut]

Hey Daniel! Keep the videos coming; they're very insightful. I am happy to say that I just ordered from your site a 1942 Proof Mercury dime. I can't wait for it to arrive!! After I order another proof Merc on another site, I will have four more of them, the two 42/41 overdates, & the '45 micro S left to buy, and I will have a literally complete set of Mercury dimes

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@saltwatersaddletramp7229]

Modern MS69/68 and PR69/68 can be great deals for collecting. Great coins and reasonable prices!

[@georgematthews2877]

Good Morning Daniel!! 🍵 Coin slabs banging together have the distinctive sound of the bones of one's bank account picked clean!😊

[@MatthewJoyceAUS]

When you were talking about thinking you have a nice coin and then flip it over....I have gone through a lot of 50s nickels and when I finally find a great coin (especially in a hard year like 54-D) then you turn it over and 99 times out of 100 it will have a massive bag mark or some other scratch on it.

[@sanfordhowell3447]

Proof coins NEED to be looked at under a Halogen light to properly see the hairlines. To the naked eye, or even under incandescent or fluorescent lighting you just aren't able to see it all. A lesson I've learned and paid for before. Happy collecting!

[@CoinsInTheWild]

IMO its better to start with Mint Set Coins because the grading is subjective, check the face first, its all clear ok, next check the fields, should be almost no chatter, ok next step check the rims for nicks, everything good? check the hair look good? next step look at the strike, sharp? good next step, reverse check the high points are they well defined or softly struck? next check the fields, rim, etc... compare to PCGS photo's if you think its MS66 then hope for MS65...check value and decide whether or not to send off.

[@tonizumpano6301]

Hey Daniel, just purchased a Morgan from you this morning, so get off this video and get it shipped, lol.

[@CoinHELPu]

I don't do shipping you will have to speak to Andy LOL and he's not a morning person.

[@johnjacobs1625]

@@CoinHELPu LOL

[@tonizumpano6301]

AN.....DEE...WAKE UP !!!!!!!!! .

[@numismaticsanonymous4952]

Haha! Hi Toni!!!

[@pauld8790]

@@numismaticsanonymous4952 andie does a gr job 🥇🥇🍕

[@rexracer8326]

Look forward to your information daily.

[@officeguy3]

Excellent video. I still can't understand why someone sends a coin in for grading, doesn't get the grade they want, cracks it out and sends it to the other company only to get a lesser grade or the same grade. Rarely do I see them getting a higher grade.

[@adamjam9541]

Dan, as usual spot on with the analysis , I think most if not all of us are hoping for the "lottery" pick in this case MS 70 or MS 69 depending on the submission. The burden of proof falls on the person submitting the coin you have to convince the judge and jury in this case , grading companies it deserves the grade you crave .

[@stefanschleps8758]

Grading companies were originally intended only for coin dealers, not coin collectors. What a scam it has become.

[@LisasCoin]

Great points👍🏻

[@sarge27271]

I agree with you on grading. Unless it's a museum quality or a RARE piece, I won't do it. I have a friend who had two Maple Privy coins (Don't remember which) and one was in almost perfect shape in a capsule, the other had slight imperfections. He put them up for trade. He got more on the nicer looking coin. The 'buyer' was willing to exchange a better piece for the nicer Maple. So without PCGS/NGC, he got a better deal all on his own. I agree that the coin might have nailed PR70, and been worth much more. But as you said, it doesn't take much to make the grade drop. So you pay to ship and grade it, it comes back and in increased value, you get half of what you paid to have it graded.....not the best deal. BTW, I have 2 Maples Big Foot Privy in capsules. Very clean, no toning, milk spots nothing........Hmm? ;)

[@monte4150]

I use to say "s.o.b." when I recieved my submissions in the mail. Now all I have to do is open up my email and say"s.o.b." sooner before I even see the coin.😁

[@Michael-ox8es]

Awesome video! I'm always learning so much from your videos. Take care

[@JoeDurbin]

Great info. Daniel,Always enjoy your talks! have a great day!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thanks!

[@tomkirby3281]

I have been watching one particular non-eBay auctioneer (I buy a lot from them), and they have a bunch of 1881-S Morgans in MS64 with varying prices, with the "beautifully toned" ones having the highest estimates. I always thought the brilliant white ones would be the most desirable. At least as far as my bids are concerned, untoned ones get most of my attention, especially as far as the Morgans are concerned. I realize that I am not the only customer, and that the demand might be for those toned coins, but I prefer my old definition of BU.

[@anthonypautin]

Thanks for sharing! ☕

[@jeffw1267]

That Lowell quarter has a nick on the rim, even on the "nice" side. Most people don't look at the rim and that's the problem. I'm sure that the graders do.

[@yvettesilver2522]

Great information...thanks!

[@kerrysipes8672]

Hey Need to make sure people understand that the graders use 5X magnification to grade the coins. Just by the naked eye some look greater than they may actually seem.I have some graded that arent that high but just want them in a protective case. That leads to alot of money sometimes but the protection is worth it to me. Enjoy the informative videos, keep up the honest job u doing and as always have a great day.

[@adamnagy7599]

I know the grading companies need to make money. There should be some kind of slide scale to their pricing. The low end grades should cost less since the coin already has less value. Why should someone have to pay $35 to verify the grade of a coin worth $1.00? The slab and the label don’t cost that much and the graders may look at it for 10 seconds. Who knows? Maybe we will start to see previously graded slabs and labels without the coins selling for big money on eBay. At some point, you are buying the slab and not the coin anyway... I know there is a lot more to it. I do agree with you. Buying cost effective graded examples is a good idea to compare your coins before deciding to send others off to grading companies.

[@jeffw1267]

I like it when people send in inexpensive coins to get slabbed. It saves me the grading fees. But the days of me getting MS63 Franklin halves for $13 each are over.

[@bmh67wa]

I have seen some of the strangest newer coins that were sent in for grading that got between 60 and 65 and wondered why someone would pay more than the coin was worth to get the grade. The potential dollar signs and hype seem to cause partial blindness with some collectors.

[@garethbates5044]

lol. The coins I get graded are sometimes a joke to some. I don't always send gems in, just coins I want slabbed. I had a common Morgan slabbed because it was from my Grand dad. Two of the last coins I sent in, were valued at $45 each according to PCGS. Not worth much, but coins I like personally. I also send in a Proof now and then and try to get a 70 grade. It is a crap shoot and just a game to me. The grading process and the wait is fun when getting coins graded; that is why coin collecting is fun in my world.. Peace and thank Daniel.

[@pauld8790]

Same here bought some Indian head pennies in the 80s nice bu. Pcgs sent them back in body bags. Sold them in 2017 as bu at a coin show and told the dealer the pcgs results. He gave me $150 each.i had paid $45 each back in the day.

[@blcscott7897]

Beautiful Coins

[@petermitchell545]

Great video... love your honesty!

[@decoy2636]

I have a 2009 Duke Ellington DDR and have been riding the fence on it and have researched some. I'd send it but I don't have the expertise to clean it nor can I imagine it being over a 50 much less bring 3k I think 3 hundred bucks would be perfect like it is as I can see a nice long scratch on the obverse through the dirt. The slanted ell is visible using my old jeweler's loop on the reverse. What's a rookie to do besides learn how to make good pictures and stick it on eBay starting at 99 cent's free shipping. 9 Eastern Saturday night would be perfect. Thanks buddy for your help with coin's even if the cleaning video doesn't give me any confidence like you have. If you did the curative work having your experience with coins. I know you could look at it and immediately know the best thing to preserve capital with which one could get more coin's.

[@LogansCoins]

darn it i was going to buy one of your raw 1909 s wheat cents but now I guess they are sold out I cant find them on your shop anymore.

[@John_Schmitt]

Send him and email or call him. See if he can help you out.

[@CoinHELPu]

Sorry, sold out for now

[@LogansCoins]

@@CoinHELPu i should have bought it yesterday when i was going to but it lol because for $45 i could not resist that deal to me it was a steal

[@numismaticsanonymous4952]

You simply can do your honest best guess, and send them in if you think it's worth it. Don't fool yourself, or you'll be paying the price.

[@typeviic1]

I understand that an un-circulated coin with railroad tracks, bag marks, chatter, contact marks, etc., will take away from the MS grade (60-70). However, does a weak strike due to die fatigue/wear lesson the mint state grade as well? Weak strike die fatigue/wear is NOT circulation wear, so one would think it would not count against the coin. Thoughts?

[@CoinHELPu]

No, weak strike doesn't

[@Ontario100]

Thank you for another good video with excellent information. This is why I only buy slabbed coins. I let others take the gamble. lol 😂

[@wandlbaker]

Send it in or not? I have long ago decided that if I find a possible great coin that (due to cost) I will send it to ANACS as 1) you don't need membership 2) it does not cost an arm and a leg. So, hope I get to send a coin to ANACS soon.

[@kl6630]

I sent in a gold 1 ounce panda and got a ms69 I’m still happy with that grade! It’s near impossible to get a 70

[@bradmccubbin1569]

Great information Daniel!

[@scottholliday9308]

Great video Dan, just received my coins back from NGC and got a top pop grade on one of them. I sent 2 1996-D quarters out that looked identical for grading one came back as a 1996-D MS68, and the other came back as a 1996-D MS 68 PL, they both should have came back as Proof Like.

[@CoinHELPu]

Nice

[@bill4572]

Another thing every body a grader when it comes to coins the only thing you have to worry about is the person grading your coin

[@msbuck007]

It looks like that 1960 Jefferson is also rotated about 5 degrees to the left.

[@slayerstacker2074]

I absolutely love your channel

[@theresagarland823]

I purchased from you today!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you

[@silverscientists8130]

Just changed my profile pic to a barber dime I found in fine condition...can stil read liberty in the headband

[@antoniusbritannia8217]

All the cool kids have coins as profile pics

[@tim1883]

Sometimes I can see a 69 from a 70. Sometimes not so much. It is easier to see and self grade an 1857 cent in EF-45 from one that's a 50, so I operate in those places. Picking a 70 is guesswork. I sometimes think in the future it may lose it's appeal to collectors. It has to me, an MS-69 is great.

[@leebrewer1190]

Then there are the unwritten laws of the grading companies. Ike specialists will all tell you that Ikes do not get 70s. If the graders had to tell why they grade what they did, then there would likely be some 70s for Ikes.

[@silverscientists8130]

I've got hundreds of barber dimes ....some in fine or at least vg8 ..also have lots of barber half dollars that are vg 8 or better...

[@nickeldime3867]

Thank you. I havnt sent any coins in for grading looking at the prices in the red book and on ebay its better to just sell the coin than have it graded sell it for what it worth im no grader so i see it like it is i can see when a coin is not worth anything.

[@CoinHELPu]

Not always. I make more money o, some coins

[@nickeldime3867]

I was really talking about me like some dimes sell for $5.00 and i cant understand why people get them graded. You are a coin dealer you know all about coins i dont but yeah i understand on some are worth a lot of money i just started about 2 years ago.

[@jackfrost9593]

I actually needed this Video.......

[@texas_germanic7073]

I know the market exsists for sending modern coins in to grading companies hoping to achieve the maximum grade. Personally, I rather stick to known vintage coins valued over $100 minimum or marketable key date forgeign coins ....like for example I have a 1905 British Shilling at least XF.....I will plan sending that in for sure ...I found in a bag of forgeign silver , 7 years ago...I paid spot silver for the bag

[@76biggdogg]

I got my w mint mark coins with my mint sets from the US mint from 2019/2020. They package the bonus coins in a plastic type baggie. Would I be better off sending them to be encapsulated just for protection ? They came from the mint marked up so I wouldn't waste money on a grade.

[@CoinHELPu]

Not for the cost of grading it's not worth it

[@76biggdogg]

@@CoinHELPu thanks for your reply! I think I will just get my own slabs just for protection. I don't trust the mint baggies.

[@NOSEMATICS]

would the obverse hold more weight then the reverse in grading? or are they equal? 👃🏻

[@John_Schmitt]

I've heard the obverse holds most of the weight, but I'm not a professional so I could be wrong.

[@geraldinestivala2836]

Where do you go too have your coins graded?

[@jppagetoo]

It would be a good thing for NGC and PCGS to say what criteria the use to determine PF69 vs PF70. But if they did that they would get fewer submissions. It is better for their business to have that gray area. So you get to gamble and they get the money. Feel ripped of yet? You should.

[@CoinHELPu]

I didn't send these coins off and I don't feel ripped off. I make money sending coins off, I know how to do it so I make money. I am sharing a collection I bought from someone who didn't know.

[@paulbegansky5650]

Thanks Daniel. To me the question is, we have PCGS coinfacts, we can enlarge the pictures to see the flaws and compare our coins to their grades, are the grading companies giving us fair grades or are they grading to critical for some nefarious purpose? I know it trained eye, but could the graders and company be the issue? Again, I have proof sets from 36 to 42 and 50 to present. By this video, you wouldn't grade any of them. I thought you would have said, grade 36 to 42 and 50 to 56 proof sets?

[@CoinHELPu]

I said unless they're key dates.

[@paulbegansky5650]

@@CoinHELPu you did say that, still confusing. My issue remains with grading company portion of the question.

[@CoinHELPu]

@@paulbegansky5650 No I didn't. I am talking about modern and common date coins in this video.

[@LAYLAOFFICIAL]

Keep going nice

[@TruthLivesNow]

Daniel, Do I grade them? Do I grade them to sell them or keep them in the collection? Who do I have them Graded by if I just keep them? I am going to give 5 examples of Ebay coins I bought, 3 a bit ugly, yet the Numismatic values is high from age. All are Seated Liberty Dimes - 1883 Seller graded an AG-3, I agree, paid $4.00, Red Book $10, PCGS for AG-4 $25, 1887 Seller graded an AG-3, I agree, paid $1.64, Red Book $10, PCGS for AG-4 $25, 1891 Seller graded an AG-3, I agree, paid $3.01, Red Book $10, PCGS for AG-4 $25, 1890 Seller graded a VF-20, I disagree, the "TY" is not visible in my 10x magnifying glass, though the coin looks super details, paid $11.26, for F-12 the Red Book is $20, a F-12 PCGS is $40, a VG-8 is $32, and lastly a 1890, Seller graded this VF, I slightly disagree, it is either a VF-20, or even a EF-40, super details, Paid $10, Red Book on a VF-20 is $25, PCGS for VF-25 is $55, EF-40 is $75-$80. I have sold on Ebay before, and due to all the fees, and shipping, I would rather an Ebay Seller sell them, or Daniel. I would rather buy coins.

[@james-ww3ot]

I have an 1878 morgan in VG shape and on the reverse the first 'S' in the word states is seperated at the top, you can tell it was a dye issue. Have you ever heard of this error in a morgan?

[@CoinHELPu]

Nope it's just a struck through grease filed die.

[@james-ww3ot]

@@CoinHELPu Ok, so nothing special?

[@matthewtaylor9468]

That’s ridiculous to me that the toned Jefferson graded less and looked stunning in comparison to the prior one that graded higher. I’m sure most graders are very precise to ensure the grade the coin deserves by their companies standards. Hearing about this happening more often makes me very hesitant to pay the total amount of fees charged and end up with an employee who has everything EXCEPT my coin on their minds instead of the grade the coin deserves and MY personal expenses. I’m 50/50 for my choice to grade or not but I’d definitely grade a rare error, variety or low mintage coins. Better investment for me.

[@SilverScorpion]

Love the info you put out! Thanks for the videos

[@dalestoner2928]

U.S. MINT Is now showing the new 2021 Silver and Gold Coins. New Reverse design. I love it. The Eagle is Great. Go to U.S. MINT web site.

[@puchogarcia5349]

What is the best coin to look for . That are low grades n are good money for them.

[@CoinHELPu]

Use PCGS price guide

[@ronschneider1870]

Sometimes it's better just to buy coins already graded!

[@CoinHELPu]

Yep

[@whidbeyrules5566]

Would it be worthwhile to send off one of the 1 oz 2019 Apollo proofs for grading I received as a gift (still in the holder so untouched)? To me, with the large issuance, it seems sort of pointless to do so.

[@CoinHELPu]

Its pointless

[@whidbeyrules5566]

@@CoinHELPu Figured that would be the case, that's why I go to the guy that knows!

[@CoinsInTheWild]

There's a video on KZbin of a guy that grades proof coins under 20x magnification and gets PR70 like 7 out of 10 times

[@krisweinschenker598]

I think someone needs to start up a budget coin grading service for pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters. The big two cater too much to the large dealers. And I really wonder how they grade a 70? Does it have to come directly from the mint?

[@anthonytolentino4372]

Yeah! I agree.

[@lawrenceprovins4900]

I need help, please offer an opinion. I have a 1966 penny. However it has a Freemason stamp on it. Also it is not copper,but a different type of metal. It looks silver or aluminum. Thoughts please??? Please?

[@CoinHELPu]

Just a Counterstamp on a plated coin, I see them often

[@lawrenceprovins4900]

Ok i know about the counterstamp and thx. But my concern is the metal composition of the penny? It looks to be aluminum or steel. I dont know. The mason stamp ruined a potential gold mine i mean its not copper for sure. Its not thicker you know. Um the mason stamp aside lets look at this as a coin without the counterstamp plz. My question is. Do you feel it came from the mint? 1966 is the year. And it looks to gave been struck at that year also because its identical to the copper on i compare it to. Thoughts? I'll even mail it to you if you would accept such a proposition. Any way good day. Sorry so long

[@ricksmith4152]

Hey sir Ever heard of a 1999 no mint Lincoln cent close AM with a cud stair on the obverse?

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes, normal, cuts are along the rim, not steps. Use error-ref.com to learn about mint errors.

[@ricksmith4152]

This cud is actually on the bottom of the stairs creating an extra stair I know it's not classified as a cud not being on the rim ... It's the best visual description

[@paulbruney5091]

Very good info ! That's the answer to a lot of my questions. But is it worth grading errors?

[@CoinHELPu]

You follow the same rules for grading

[@paulbruney5091]

The reason I ask is, I have a 2011 penny that's pretty and red but it has dirty spots. But it is also doubled on the date the mint mark "I believe Denver" and it's doubled from Lincoln's neck to his eyes.

[@CoinHELPu]

@@paulbruney5091 Not worth it and why I ask people to check sold auctions, don't see it then it's not worth grading and selling. Any doubled die worth money will have an auction track record.

[@bill7759]

I got a pcgs graded Roosevelt dime 1962 d AU 55 It shouldn’t even be in a slab

[@thomasleasure5831]

Where do I send my coin to get graded

[@CoinHELPu]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWGYpHqEl8xjodE

[@petepal55]

Someday they'll have a 3D-scanning device with fine enough resolution that an AI will be able to grade coins, it may even already exist. Now to train the AI...

[@donaldinnewmexico]

HI DANIEL. DO YOU THINK THE 2019 ASE ERP IS WORTH KEEPING UNOPENED IN MINT PACKAGING? *TYU#451*

[@CoinHELPu]

I don't know

[@blue_diamond_gem]

ANACS just doesn’t carry any weight to pay a high premium price.

[@TruthLivesNow]

If the price was $260 for the ANACS as a MS-63, and the same grade was $300 for the PCGS, which would you choose, if they looked the same. I do get your point.

[@blue_diamond_gem]

Truth Lives Unfortunately, due to them being in different holders the PCGS one will be more expensive. It’s like when people buy generic, it’s the exact same thing but people pay more because they think it’s better. It just carries much more weight.

[@wandawilliams2397]

That nickel is Purdy

[@barrybarney6085]

You know if I sent a coin in thinking it was a certain double die for example and it was something totally different, PCGS would just tell me that I was wrong and send my coin back not telling me how I was wrong or telling me what the coin I sent in really was. Perhaps they think Im going to send it in again with another guess, until I finally get it right. I dont think so !!! Homey dont play dat. I mean, if I am good enough to send them good people my coin plus the money to have it graded . I think that should entitle me to an explanation of my coin and if it is something different they should at least tell me what it really is and make me send it in again . But even that is being too greedy in my book sure they have to make money but that dont mean they should be raping the members of their own club, because you have to become a member before you can even submit a coin . And then they are going to rape you like that? I dont think that I want to be a member of a club like that . Because Homey really dont play dat. The more I lean about this the more it looks like a who you know operation . Now you take in a coin and then let someone that they know personally and I will bet that he gets a better grade than you do. Now tell me are all three grading companies having so close of ties that if one company says your coin is fake then your name goes in as trying to pass off a fake coin?? Or what is their policy ? Now I am not nor will I ever try to pass off any coin or bill that I know is fake. Because that is fraud and not only is it illegal but it just aint right lying to people and misrepresenting something that you know isnt what you say or think that it is.

[@barrybarney6085]

Now I know that I have a genuine copper cent. And one man looked at it and seen the date and immediately said that iy was a fa

[@barrybarney6085]

Dang it I was just trying to fix my mistake and hit the send arrow instead of the back arrow. Anyway, I had some point that I was tryink0

[@barrybarney6085]

To make. And I just did it again so I am sorry. Some days I could kick my own ass for forgetting to remember what it was that I was supposed to remember. God it is a vicious circle of being disgusted with myself . It truely SUCKS !!! !!!!

[@CoinHELPu]

Just send you coin to someone at CONECA, once they tell you what you have or don't have, then you check with PCGS or NGC and see if they have it listed on their price guide. If they do they will label it, if they don't they wont. It's so easy to avoid your issue.

[@barrybarney6085]

Hey thanks Daniel you make it sound so simple. I wish I could process my thoughts like that. I will keep working on it. Thanks

[@rogelfortugaliza7018]

I have old coins sir,u buy,

[@blackquiver]

So basically my coins r worth one cent

[@CoinHELPu]

Did you look them up?

[@blackquiver]

Yeah, sort of..I get hyphens or one cent, might get a dollar for it..ppffttt... I just like to collecting them ..I don't know much about them, I got a 1955 canadain penny..KZbin telling me it's worth thousands of dollars..then I find out it's gotta be mint or shoulder/ unshorlder.. I mean ifshe dies, maybe the colour won't matter..I looked it up its worth one cent..hahahahaha..when I look stuff up, it's fairly confusing if a person don't understand what they r looking at..but no matter I still like the coins..I did look up the silver dollar..it's worth maybe hundred bucks..it's so woren..its World War One..brought back from the war, handed down from generation till now,...so I think it's all on the collecter..I obviously have to do more research, and don't know much about it..but I am learning from u guys..thx fir your time

[@antoniusbritannia8217]

Submitting coins is like a crap shoot? Pffft. At least I've made money throwing dice before! 😄

[@CoinHELPu]

I've made money submitting coins but its still a gamble

[@antoniusbritannia8217]

@@CoinHELPu I know, that hasn't been my "luck" though, when submitting.

[@stefanschleps8758]

Grading coins is a scam. Worthless. Better to grade your own coins. And trust your gut.

[@CoinHELPu]

You have to lean how to play the game, your odds are better than a Casino once you have the knowledge needed on coins.

[@wandawilliams2397]

Hahahahaha