Subsonex Jet - Cost to Own

[@WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD]

The brilliant thing is that the videos get longer and snarkier the more you actually seem to want the plane.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

There's some truth to that

[@WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD]

@@CompleteWalkaround So your palette likes weird, eyeball-pulling, slick, faster than you might think experimentals even to the point of having a Soviet Bloc jet engine that lasts slightly longer than a gallon of milk.

[@notravstar]

So nice he posted it twice

[@wormyboot]

Such good fuel burn, he could afford to post it twice.

[@ZackHab]

​@@wormyboot lmaooo

[@arfdinglare]

oh my gosh the writing and humor were so on point in this video 🤣

[@peterblacklin9174]

Commentary is brilliant. The motorcycle analogy is excellent, nimble, fast and does not loiter in traffic. Sailplanes are awesome and cost between a few thousand and several hundred thousand but need skill. Some people can stay up and travel hundreds of miles, others just glide back to a landing but is still fun. Keep up the great work, I look forward to each pithy episode.

[@titodarluzu]

"It has enough fuel to run the engine for about two hours... It is recommended that you land before that time is up" - 😂😂😂

[@Astro_Lugia]

“So you wanna buy a sonic subsonic jet. That’s jet. As in JET like an actual JET.” Great span of words right there

[@Rh92887]

This one was SO fun to watch, had me giggling the entire time.

[@thewayfaringanarchists8157]

This is the best, most efficient “ a boy can dream “ channel I’ve found yet

[@TheMuro22]

Ok, so as someone from a country you have never even heard of, in english it's pronounced something like "Chesskah republica". Also thank you for making these videos, I'm loving them so far!

[@chrisseidel6347]

your absolutely best video yet. "it's recommended that you land before then..." lol. that's good stuff

[@nitroscout8119]

It's definitely the coolest little jet. My Sonex-A always got looks everywhere it went and it was slow 😂

[@PetesGuide]

First to watch a second time, 18s after posting! Is that exceptionally fast like the jet? Serious question for you though - do the plans look like it might be possible to make the wings foldable from a cockpit switch? Really want to replicate that Bond scene IRL!

[@CompleteWalkaround]

The main thing holding you back would be a chunky electric motor to pull them up. Sonex already makes the Onex wing. Leverage from pushing up on the wing tip is minimal, but wrenching it up from the hinge would take some more serious force. I'll say definitely not impossible. Thanks for the second watch 👍

[@KCJbomberFTW]

How did you manage to watch a 3 minute video in 18 seconds😮

[@PetesGuide]

@@KCJbomberFTW I used one of my contacts to borrow a certain machine for a little bit. Shhh! Don’t tell them; I don’t think they noticed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5TSdKqlpdGIbLs

[@Ispeedymg]

On one hand, expensive. On the other hand JET. Thankfully i’m right handed.

[@cliftonsheldon9134]

I saw one of these fly at an air show a couple years ago. It was cool and he flew it around quite a bit.

[@LeonardoDaVinci01]

Oh, hell yes... the hippy missile!! God I love this thing! 😁

[@gijsabbing2656]

Great writing, love your work! Ps: Could you maybe so dr-400 sometime in the future? I loved to fly that one and would like to buy it some day, if i can afford it!

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I will get there. You're in EU by chance?

[@gijsabbing2656]

@@CompleteWalkaround That would be great! I will be waiting patiently for it then ;). And yeah, i'm from the Netherlands!

[@turtleboi-dz9jm]

could you do a vid on the DR-400? great vids btw

[@benbluestone]

Woooh thank you!!! much awaited video!

[@charlesdreadful5997]

Hey! 30k+ subs, good job fella. 👍✈

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Thanks 🤓

[@aaronblack5248]

@complete walkaround, love the content keep it up! Might be just me but there seemed to be some audio peaking in this one. Also doing a motorglider might be fun to look into! I've been thinking about getting one for a while.

[@outlawflyer7868]

You know what would really make this plane stand out? Put two engines on the back with a T-tail configuration like you would see on a Cessna citation or better yet, an A10 warthog configuration.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

www.sonexaerospace.com/subsonex-uas.html

[@nickrockz97]

if you did that it would probably go the same speed as an A10 warthog.

[@outlawflyer7868]

@@CompleteWalkaround ah, I see. Very cool. Still think a T-tail configuration would be better looking.

[@rbrosz]

I really wish they would have designed this to carry a sensible amount of fuel. The endurance is so short that you can barely get anywhere if you include a healthy reserve. I had hopes that the two seat version would fix this, but it looks like they only increased the tank by 20%. Helpful, but not enough.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

It's a good point. Imo, the issue is the thrust of the engine at just less that 300 lbf. I think they were really gunning for the 200 knot mark and so size/weight had to come down until that could be met. Just my opinion.

[@TheOwenMajor]

You only cross country in a Sonex if you hate yourself. These are toys, meant to go up, sight see a little and RTB.

[@TheJustinJ]

I don't think you understand jet math. It is not possible to include more fuel and retain the same or even similar performance. A jet engine develops X amount of thrust. A takeoff acceleration rate requires X amount of thrust to weight ratio. Climb rate and gradient requires X amount of thrust to drag ratio. Better compared at lift/drag ratio and thrust/weight. A jet engine and the aircraft weight and the wing area, the takeoff distance, rotation speed, and the landing speed. Most importantly the climb rate, and gradient are all inextricably linked. And a Jet engine burns a certain specific fuel consumption per pound of thrust per hour. - These little jets burn something like 1.25lbs/hr/lbf thrust in cruise. That is, if it develops 200lbs of thrust it burns 250lbs/hr of fuel which is 37.5gal/hr. If you take it up from that lower altitude cruse up to 18,000msl it drops the thrust, drag, and fuel burn a lot. Because less pressure means less density means less oxygen and less fuel. This is the secret to jet transport: 36,000' MSL std conditions. No higher, and no lower. And there are many reasons for this. A certain fraction of the gross weight is empty weight. A certain fraction is pilot/payload. Another fraction is fuel. They all add up to 1.0 and no more. And thrust has to be a certain fraction of that weight. The only way to bring more fuel with the same weight and performance is to ditch the pilot. Or make a lighter airplane. (How? Less strong?) Otherwise accept abysmal performance from increased weight, increased wing area. Lower speed, longer takeoffs, lethargic climb rate, Etc. Then what is the point of having a jet? If it's slow and lethargic? This thing has enough fuel for 50 minutes at full power, at sea level, with the 1250N jet engine. That becomes 2:45:00 at 36,000'. Or 2hrs cruise with 30min reserve, after takeoff and climb.

[@smile768]

Very cool. I too am glad it exists, although not for everyone.

[@00_Carson]

You should def do a Gulf Stream g280

[@WiredForFlight]

It also has one of the best and most accurate names out there.

[@onethinganimations]

I have watched Every single video. Incredible family fun. However, the audio is a tab bit "buzzy" on this video.

[@Ichibuns]

It doesn't have the performance numbers but I don't know any pilot that wouldn't be stoked to fly such a thing. You can honestly get REALLY close performance by mounting a UL350 to the front of a Onex. It has been done and will straight and level 200 mph indicated (at full power).

[@Legogamer12]

Thank you for the video

[@CdtFabio]

There's one of these guys that runs around the airshow scene. It doesn't fly it place to place but pulls off the wings and shoves it into a small trailer. So you could save some hangar costs. Also, he said it kinda sucks to fly cross country.

[@braincraven]

Again, the commentary spot on...Gliders might freak you out, but man motors freak me out. Even though I own a motor glider, I have not built enough time in the plane to trust the motor.

[@drnugget8347]

I was happy to find this video, I was less happy when I found the price…

[@dudewithacamera]

Love this channel, keep it up! Request: Yak 52

[@mvaldman2001]

Thanks… Can you do a BD-5, please 😬

[@quantumac]

How about reviewing a BD-5J Microjet? There is a more modern version these days known as the FLS Microjet.

[@LarySeeAircraft]

Would you be able to do a video on the SK60 (I plan on trying to buy one in the future)

[@Ilmar122]

Is a jet version of the da11

[@peterbruns6124]

I mean... why not put a little sweep back in those wings for some more speed?

[@ChargerusPrime]

I truthfully want one of these things so I can travel from place to place within the state. I'd only be using it a few times a year and maintainence is cheaper than my 69 charger which yes is a restomod I drive daily. I could also take it to air shows and whatnot but I ain't sure about that. Also, is that insurance cost per month or per year?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Fixed are per year, variable per hour

[@ChargerusPrime]

@@CompleteWalkaround so this thing really isn't too terribly expensive. At least not compared to other aircraft and even quite a few ground vehicles.

[@benelgar-white1174]

MIG 29 next plz 🙏

[@beesoffury]

First set of numbers seemed suspiciously low 😂

[@justtwoseats]

Impossibly low. Fuel burn in cruise alone would have cost more than the stated hourly cost

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I know.. no surprise these some cutting and pasting going on in these videos creation. Those were numbers from a previous episode. I should make a prepost checklist 🙂

[@chriskroeker1889]

SuperXimango next!

[@DriHand]

Finally a year later!

[@tds456]

Cost per hour got updated in the re-upload. And here I was seriously considering one :(

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Ya, I know. Very disappointing cut and paste error

[@tds456]

@@CompleteWalkaround My comment was tongue in cheek. Sorry if that didn't completely come through with the smiley. Your stuff is truly amazing and has helped understanding the costs involved in owning however.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

@@tds456 Ya I gotcha. Still sad it's not super cheap

[@fionnspencer4626]

Could you do the scale wings SW51 next?

[@pigeon4208]

If you want a 220 MILE per hour plane instead of 200 kt, the Cassutt 3 is definitely a good one

[@Karuiko]

205 (nautical) miles per hour :3

[@peterk2455]

If you want to do 220 mph and go slower, at 191 Knots, that's fine.

[@peterk2455]

@@Karuiko That's LENGTH, not speed

[@Karuiko]

@@peterk2455 So are statute miles.

[@bobkin611]

How is it so affordable?

[@pricelessppp]

Do the vision jet!

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I did.

[@queeny5613]

Yesss

[@whatwaq]

i wanna buy this

[@antoniog9814]

Could you do a video on the Diamond DA42-IV?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I can yup

[@antoniog9814]

@@CompleteWalkaround Thanks, would you, please? :)

[@MrDecaliostro]

How about UFM Lambada 13?

[@StinkPickle4000]

NEAT!

[@blackblog]

very cool headless channel here.

[@jonasmcrae2]

Hey can we be friends and talk about planes we want to buy for a couple hours a week?

[@ccb9005]

👍 Great Plane!

[@LazyHarpseal]

As a glider pilot… my heart is broken :(

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Just building hype for the glider video 😉

[@SonexLLC]

@@CompleteWalkaround Xenos Motorglider?

[@AN2Felllla]

"Gliding is like water skiing without a boat" So surfing? :D

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Exactly! Preposterous!!

[@isbestlizard]

It looks like a cruise missile with wings and a place to sit o.o

[@ailijic]

I'm pretty sure they use the TJ-100 in certain cruise missles.

[@maxyuledev7626]

oh nooo, it's so expensive now :(

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I know. Sorry 😟

[@thaphreak]

Subsonex Jet, when r/whoosh = weeeeeee!!!

[@trm7782]

Bd5 but good

[@rileyhayes2497]

Funniest one yet

[@littlefox2170]

I wan‘t this Thing

[@artjackson8360]

Only 500 hours to build this thing? That's it? If I had started on this instead of my RV-14A I would have been done by now. BTW, how's your -14 build coming?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Sold it 🫤

[@beanMosheen]

$30k for overhaul? Hey-Zeus!

[@antisoda]

Your audio seems to be clipping in places. Just FYI.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Thanks

[@Jacob-qu8kj]

Not deleted this time I see haha

[@NicksStuff]

Fuck, $30,000 for 300h, that's a lot more than I thought. How much is a brand new engine?

[@nitroscout8119]

$74,000

[@CaffeineGeek]

LOL @ $7,000 hamburger.

[@reubennewell103]

A re-upload? 😂

[@billiondollardan]

wow 900 hours isn't exactly a lot

[@jakobc.2558]

I wan't to go back in time to a place where I could buy a P-51 for 50.000$. Granted you would have to factor in inflation which would make the P-51s todays cost 50.000$ + inflation but still. Also the entire holocaust thing would suck, don't go back in time kids.

[@JulianLikesPlanes]

First

[@davecallister1233]

Can't get past his lisp.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Nice try. Do you know what a lisp is