200 knots is exactly what we publish for cruise, but like many other kit aircraft manufacturers we publish our numbers in MPH, so that is on our web site as 230 mph TAS (multiply 200 knots by 1.151 to get the number in mph).
@04boogie-t14 Жыл бұрын
how long till yall release the 2 seat jet?
@frankdearmond33722 жыл бұрын
Good video. And a great looking plane. But a minor correction: You don't need a type rating for the JSX-2. The training, done by Bob Carlton at Moriarity, NM, is in his PBS jet engine powered glider. Sonex, Bob, and the FAA worked out the approved training program. Once you complete the training and pass the checkride in your SubSonex, you get a Letter of Approval (LOA) from the FAA. There is really no minimum number of flight hours required to fly the jet, but the FAA wants you to have some time in similar handling airplanes, doesn't have to be jet powered. Sonex has more info on the training on their website and there are videos of it on YT. I hope to finish my JSX-2 within a few months, and start the training. Thanks for the videos and keep them coming! (I watch them primarily to help me see how other builders have worked through various issues I've run into).
@rogerclarke32913 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. Really interesting. Thanks for posting
@shable14363 жыл бұрын
The sonex planes are cool because of the 4:1 ratio, cruise speed to stall speed 160-40 at that size
@AlexDenton04513 жыл бұрын
They’re 100% going to be my first plane. I can’t decide whether to build or buy, main reason why I’d buy is because it’s so much cheaper than to build, by like 10K for a Jabiru plane!
@josephhaas74133 жыл бұрын
That’s huge!
@Mike-012342 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDenton0451 I suspect lot of people overlook the high cruise speeds Sonex aircraft have right up there with RV's at a fraction of the cost. If it was me I would build because then you learn everything about that plane know everything was done right because you built it. Jabiru engine some of the older ones had lot of problems I know they need enough cooling I think all that has been worked out on newer ones.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass3 жыл бұрын
That’s a sexy plane! I wish I could afford a Viperjet. My only problem with these is that there is no ejection seat and you’re literally sitting on the fuel tank.
@shable14363 жыл бұрын
It has a BRS
@robertphillips30783 жыл бұрын
Yep l Agree with U the Viper Jet is probably the best small sized jet out there
@josephc.95203 жыл бұрын
I would wait for the Voodoo cos strake tanks and actual speed (they claim 300 knots on the same engine as the subsonex), maybe more fuel would be good
@malcolmlewis5370 Жыл бұрын
Superb to fly, so versatile. I have had a lot of fun in this
@chumps79743 жыл бұрын
In my younger days this would be a dream! Not so much now.
@russkunz39496 ай бұрын
Never stop dreaming. I was down and out till I turned 70 years old living in my rotted out Chevy Metro. To day at 75, life turned around. If you dream it you can do it. Just started flying lessons. And ordered my Sub sonex
@josephdeliz34552 жыл бұрын
Amazing dude, it would be insane to paint it with graphene nanotube paint. Just imagine, a homemade stealth jet.
@AlexDenton04513 жыл бұрын
I’m probably gonna get a normal Sonex/Waiex. Can’t decide whether to build or buy though, purely because it’s 10K or more cheaper to buy a Jabiru 3300.
@randemness26803 жыл бұрын
I may be a little biased too this since I live in Oshkosh and have seen them flying around for awhile, so its cool to see you building one. Love your vids. Next time you make it to Oshkosh would love to sit down and chat and pick your brain lol
@superskullmaster2 жыл бұрын
That isn’t his jet.
@Harry_Ballzonya3 жыл бұрын
It the dirt bike of the jet world.
@alexdarcydestsimon37672 жыл бұрын
When a video on the 2 -seater ? Would you do one on Fouga Magister and/or Paris jets ?
@hawkinitwithmark81103 жыл бұрын
Web site publishes 230 MPH, which IS 200 KNOTS
@AlexDenton04513 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty slow for a Jet but my god does it still sound fun.
@michaelwilson53033 жыл бұрын
Cool plane but for the money and speed, might just as well get a Van's RV and get the same speed and quadruple the range.
@farhanfouadacca3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and get a two seater.
@michaelwilson53033 жыл бұрын
@@farhanfouadacca I'm looking to possibly get an RV4 in the future . The specs on it are great.
@farhanfouadacca3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilson5303 Same here. Will you buy or build? I am still looking to build. I got interested in RV 4 but they don’t have quick build option in it.
@michaelwilson53033 жыл бұрын
@@farhanfouadacca I will probably buy one that has already been built and previously owned.
@superskullmaster2 жыл бұрын
When you want a steak, a chicken breast won’t do. Sure they will both fill your guts, but chicken can never be steak.
@harrynelson92033 жыл бұрын
2 jets on the wings would look incredible, paint looks great too 👍🏻👌🏻
@jasonalpha3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thanks Mike
@southnc632 жыл бұрын
Here is a video showing the Sonex Jet doing 260 mph level flight right over the runway: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWe8pHaQodyMrZI. Happens around 7:30 mark. If you take it to 17 - 20K altitude, engine much more efficient and probably even faster.
@MichaelCarterShow3 жыл бұрын
Wake up & smell the fuel instead of coffee sittin rite behind ya. Lmao
@TimToussaint3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was wondering the same. First time that I see this pointed out. How can this *not* smell diesel in the cockpit!
@russkunz39496 ай бұрын
@@TimToussaint the Jp4 5 7 and av jet fuel does not 2:05 smell
@perfectweather3 жыл бұрын
Can you put duel jet engines on a sonex aircraft?
@superskullmaster2 жыл бұрын
The military drone version has 2 engines.
@robertphillips30783 жыл бұрын
Well if u can open the cabin & smell the Fuel , then what is the Pilot breathing while he if flying Fumes. Doesn't sound Healthy
@AlexDenton04513 жыл бұрын
It could also be they spilled the fuel in the plane, which is probably just as bad.
@hawkinitwithmark81103 жыл бұрын
Once you're moving, there's plenty of fresh air coming into the cabin. Opening the SubSonex cockpit and smelling both leather upholstery and Jet-A at the same time is the ultimate pilot aphrodisiac! Also, lots of other GA airplanes in which you smell the fuel when opening up the cabin after its been sitting for a while.
@MrShehin Жыл бұрын
Price pleace
@CF_18_HORNET Жыл бұрын
You don’t need a type rating u need a loa (letter of authorization from faa) because there are no type rating for subsonex u need a loa
@okhera12 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Bro! Get Good Pilots!
@youriginable3 жыл бұрын
Pleaze, make a short video on Gotcha! and American Patriot as they are hangar neighbours.
@TimToussaint3 жыл бұрын
Does the stated price include the engine?
@farhanfouadacca3 жыл бұрын
It better does. Otherwise a complete waste.
@stevenhershman26602 жыл бұрын
This Plane Resembles the "Heinkle 162" German Jet plane at the end of WW2,
@Old_B52H_Gunner3 жыл бұрын
Mentour pilot mentioned your channel on his reaction to the Trevor Jacob lunacy.
@Gargamoth10 ай бұрын
I wish I looked more like a fighter jet and could hold luggage!
@bricklawson97453 жыл бұрын
I want that!! Although the jet fuel seat back is a little cray cray Haha
@MichaelCarterShow3 жыл бұрын
It looks jus like the acrostar jet in " Octopussy " (1983)✈️
@chumps79743 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought it was
@ajwasp36423 жыл бұрын
That jet was a BD-5J.
@MichaelCarterShow3 жыл бұрын
@@ajwasp3642 Oh ok.👍🏾👌🏾
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA3 жыл бұрын
Sonex has had a 2 seater aircraft out for a while now.
@shable14363 жыл бұрын
I like the sonex b
@EJWash573 жыл бұрын
Sonex has a two-seat (side-by-side) version of the SubSonex jet in the works.
@michaelb.89533 жыл бұрын
@@shable1436 I also like the Sonex B just wish it had a folding wing like the Onex. I'm looking at ordering the Sonex B kit here in the next six months.
@michaelb.89533 жыл бұрын
@@EJWash57 They are working on some other projects also as in a high wing airplane.
@EJWash573 жыл бұрын
@@michaelb.8953 I read that. Wonder what the specs/engine will be. Van's is about to debut it's RV-15 - a high wing bush model.
@kevinswanson39103 жыл бұрын
I watched a bd5j fall out of the sky years ago at the vanderhoof airshow
@SGTMARSHALL13 жыл бұрын
Planes with 1 engine do that, it's a thing
@kevinswanson39103 жыл бұрын
The pilot didn't make it.
@SGTMARSHALL13 жыл бұрын
@@kevinswanson3910 if it leaves the ground it should have 2 engines
@DanFrederiksen3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting but with a turbofan engine it might fly twice as long with the same fuel and a more aerodynamic composite body and pressurized it might do 3x the distance and suddenly it's a 2000km range aircraft going mach 0.7 at 45000. That's going places.
@hawkinitwithmark81103 жыл бұрын
Sure, but would you still be able to build it for $130K? I seriously doubt it! Would it be obtainable at-all for the average homebuilder? Nope!
@DanFrederiksen3 жыл бұрын
@@hawkinitwithmark8110 well the engine can be small and relatively simple and a single seater composite droplet can also be rather simple. Pressurization adds some complexity but it can be a simple lean plane and can really be built for whatever price you can convince the makers to make it for. It's more psychology of the producer than real cost. 130k is basically cheaper than any other plane and I think the engine costs 100k alone? so that 130k might not be terribly real. But like I said, it's sentiment. Keep in mind that a cirrus costs a small million. So more than 130k could still be a smashing success.
@DanFrederiksen3 жыл бұрын
@@hawkinitwithmark8110 and consider how vastly superior a craft it would be.
@hawkinitwithmark81103 жыл бұрын
@@DanFrederiksen 130K is very real for the SubSonex. Engine currently costs $74 but you can get it for less by purchasing it at the same time as your kit. You'd be working pretty hard to spend more than $150K on a SubSonex. $130K is at the average to upper-end of the cost spectrum for homebuilt aircraft. Take your typical well-equipped Vans aircraft, for instance: There's no way you can complete an RV for less than $100K. All of Sonex's piston powered kits, however, are designed to get great performance from smaller engines and therefore can be built between $30-$50K.
@wayneschenk55123 жыл бұрын
Suits it’s purpose.
@doranjaffas73513 жыл бұрын
BD5J..It be great to see a review on those. They've been around a long time. The Sonex is a great aircraft though no matter which way one goes.
@w.townsend34773 жыл бұрын
This plane is badass, however, I'd pass on this. Something about all that fuel being right behind my head doesn't sit well with me.
@stupidanimal57393 жыл бұрын
@@Halfmoonbaystudios You've just traumatized me.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the day of Electric Flying Vehicles rechargeable at home.
@robertriggs753 жыл бұрын
They exist now but still not very practical. Energy density still not good enough for battery-powered aircraft to be truly useful. See blackfly and pipistrel. Pipistrel is two hours recharging for 50 minutes flying with 3-phase recharging power.
@tomcoryell3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is available now ( with a waiting list…..)
@michaelb.89533 жыл бұрын
@@tomcoryell it comes with a $100,000 price tag and you get to fly it 15 minutes around your backyard no more than 6 feet off the ground....no thanks. If I'm going to pay $100,00 for anything it will be for something that's actually useful.
@ericsordillon27163 жыл бұрын
Personal jet of James Bond.....!?
@MichaelCarterShow3 жыл бұрын
Yea. It looks jus like the acrostar jet in " Octopussy " (1983)
@FunkMasterJunk3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Sitting against the fuel tank!
@rawdice44ify3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe that small engine keeps that plane in the air😳
@Mike-012342 жыл бұрын
The price on these gone up annually they used to be 100k flying now they are up to 150k flying before long it will be 200k. That's the problem with these getting the price so high customer going to be limited to wealthy if they have the money why not buy an L39?
@josephhaas74133 жыл бұрын
I love this little jet, but I wish it was IFR rated and robust enough, in terms of airframe size and weight, to accommodate it
@archivist173 жыл бұрын
Cool! But not at all practical.
@mojogrip3 жыл бұрын
For fun not practicality 🤩
@archivist173 жыл бұрын
@@mojogrip Absolutely! But would a Bede BD-5J be an alternative?
@neal-stewart8343 жыл бұрын
jet fuel he he
@lonnieholcomb20783 жыл бұрын
uhmm its a jet, but check the far's all you need for this "Experimental" jet is a letter from,,,, Your doctor saying he thinks your okay to fly, so this is a decent, kinda low end way to get your hours up so at 1000 hrs you should be able get turbine rated for grownup planes,, unless the have changed the rules.
@farhanfouadacca3 жыл бұрын
Range isn’t appealing at all. After about 400nm, which is about 2 hours, I’ll have to land and find a bigger airport that carries jet fuel. Is little inconvenient for longer cross country flights, and difficult to find such airports outside bigger cities in Canada that too without landing fees.