Sued By Tesla & Working With Them!

[@RB-pi3jl]

I bought an EVject 8 months ago for my and my family's safety while Supercharging. I received an e-mail from them last week that they will replace my model for free with their revised version 1.2. A stand up company. Not believing their early model to have a problem, I won't be sending it back for replacement. And, I ordered and paid for a new version to support this company.

[@markplott4820]

I open carry when I drive ZERO issues . I can also get alerts & monitor cameras remotely. and deal w/ criminals PERSONALLY.

[@Alucardx72]

​@@markplott4820💪💪 murica

[@evject]

We’re so grateful for your support! We really couldn’t continue to make charging better without innovative thinkers like yourself 🙌

[@NoTimeForThatNow]

In Florida, everybody is packing, wouldn't end well.

[@raisoreo]

Hey Guys, this was an excellent discussion with Kreg Peeler regarding the EVject and ensuing kerfuffle with Tesla. Mr. Peeler has tons of ideas regarding partnerships and different uses of EVject, and other devices. From the discussion, Mr. Peeler is a very knowledgeable and articulate guy. He really knows what first-principle and critical thinking are. I sure hope he gets his wish to talk to Mr. Musk. Cheers!

[@modquad18]

The rocket socket concept is a winner, and what charging needs to move to. Ideally you want your break-away function to not destroy anything. Strong Work guys 💪🏽

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Really interesting, once version 1.2 comes out, I'll be ordering one, thanks for bringing us this update on the breakaway connector.

[@markplott4820]

get open carry GUN license instead. practice Daily.

[@realbro5548]

⁠@@markplott4820 Hey Det. Harry Callahan, we get it. You made a sudden impact, with magnum force, because you’re the enforcer, Dirty Harry 😂

[@markplott4820]

@@realbro5548 - I would open carry Howitzer if they let me 😜

[@Nimbus_2k]

This is great, I’m always worried when charging at night or sketchy places at Tesla or Non Tesla chargers!! Thanks for the awesome content as always❤

[@evject]

No need to fear EVject is here 😎

[@klantic2]

This was an amazing interview. I recall EVject during the Tesla Time News challenge. Thank you all for your time, effort, and expertise.

[@4tune8chance65]

It’s a solution. But would be better if the car itself could eject the charging cable, e.g. a Solenoid that pushes the plug out.

[@joninmelbourne]

But the connector would get damaged hitting the ground all the time as people would just press the button because they don’t want to leave the car.

[@markplott4820]

the BEST part , is no part. its LEGAL to stand your Ground.

[@okgoogle4206]

They will just go wireless

[@markplott4820]

@@okgoogle4206 - Ummm , any kind of wireless is way SLOWER. its like using 120v AC to Supercharge on RoadTrips.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Wireless charging is the standard in Norway for their EV ferries as first and foremost overcomes the massive corrosion problem in a seawater environment, those are very high current / voltage for the 300 to 600kwh ferry batteries.

[@GROGU123]

Yes but inefficient compared to cables. Sure, its necessary for corrosion, but road cars dont typically have that issue.

[@tsamuel6224]

Seems odd that EV ferries only have 600kwh batteries. Some ferries are very big.

[@okgoogle4206]

@@GROGU123 Wireless charging is now 94% efficient at 240v, probably more with higher voltage, so same as cables.

[@TheOnlyName]

Cool that I believe this all started with Zac & Jesse's challenge for a solution to this "bear problem!"

[@NjoyLife_01]

Hey Tesla R & D engineers….Are you developing for consumers, or are you in bed with nefarious perpetrators who take advantage of EV/Tesla owners? This product is BRILLIANTLY innovative with the changing times of our modern era. Please work w/ this business product to enhance EV consumers experience with YOUR product! THANK YOU! Kim, Thanks for interviewing this entrepreneur/engineer!

[@robertsteich7362]

Since when is a "cease and desist letter" a lawsuit?

[@darmou]

It was confusing as it started as cease and desist but then became lawsuit later.

[@tsamuel6224]

One solution to a wand or wand tip that gets hot is ridges. The ridges act like cooling fins so the ridges are cooler than the wand and hold the skin away from the hot wand body. I have had stuff made this way and you never get burned. The only issue is crud in the ridges bakes in there. Does NOT work with metal ridges, which are hot.

[@DB-cu4hn]

Good alternative to EVject: Glock

[@lamda45]

Or why not both? Do you not like having options?

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

@@lamda45That’s the literally meaning of ‘good alternative’ not ‘better’. They’re equally good.

[@craigshort9231]

Instead of a key fob or built into the third button on the garage remote to allow emergency release, an idea may be a built in break/accelerator code. It may be slight quicker to emergency release by pushing accelerator, accelerator, break, break, break pedals in that exact order and that allows the release which puts the car automatically into drive then the driver can instantly drive. That would have to come from Tesla engineers though. Just an idea 😊

[@subwarpspeed]

The key, garage door opener etc. was for other makers. If it was CCS1 Tesla has no part in it. If for CCS2 Tesla is just one of many car makers.

[@tillschanz7890]

Part of why we got rid of our X. My wife was parked at Lenox mall during the riots in 2020. One of the Tesla reps she was on the phone with told her not to park there and charge because someone the week prior got their windows smashed while charging. What a huge flaw. This is a potential life saver.

[@davidmitchell1920]

I have my EVGLOCK

[@FutureSystem738]

I’m impressed- but YES, we need something for CCS2 here in Oz, 🇦🇺 and in most of the rest of the world. Great interview thanks!

[@aaronrdaniels]

I always thought they should have something in-place that makes this issue be resolved behind a “In the moment paywall. It doesn’t wait to pull ur credit card, but it would become a pending bill on your Tesla account. Some sort of mechanism that can shoot the charger out onto the ground or have a safe seam to brake away from (just like the connector that got sued), but it costs you $99 to do it. And then if you can prove it was something you truly needed to do in that moment via dashcam footage. Tesla could refund you that charge. It gives everyone the freedom to do it, but has a way to prevent people from abusing it because they are too lazy to get out of the car. If someone wants to donate $99 to maintain the supercharger division because they are too lazy to get out of their car. By all means they can pay extra money to drop the charger on the ground (which tons of people do already)

[@JR-ji5sx]

I got the Gist in 5 minutes. Very good info and might purchase one in the future. I normally charge at home. But 29 mins was too long.

[@henryberg2155]

That’s why am armed always but can’t say that for a lot of other drivers. This product is genius and worth every penny to keep you safe

[@ihearttesla]

Thanks for sharing...I was hesitant to order one earlier due to safety concerns. However, after learning about the latest safety features and working with Tesla, I feel confident that it's safe and plan to order one. Thank you again.👍

[@DennisMathias]

There is a disconnect option for unlocking the charge port. Tesla needs to put an ejection spring on the connector to force it out. That would end the problem and eliminate the adapter. This could be a retrofit either to the male or female side of the connector. Also, I'm sure many people will forget or ignore the breakaway when they charge. We need something passive.

[@JimWilleke]

NACS is clearly an industry standard which Tesla has published specifications as open source. SAE International does not have regulatory authority over their specifications and they are NOT open source and typically requires a subscription or purchase

[@bhollar6515]

Great interview for the community. Thanks Kim!

[@GarySBCA]

Good talk. EV charging is at mostly unattended locations so security is definitely a concern to be addressed. Clearly Craig and EVject have thought it through. For safety an emergency disconnect should be included at either the charge level or the vehicle manufacturer level. The question is will Tesla and the industry try to accomplish it in a way that bypasses EVjects patents or will they pay to license the technology or buy the company? In any case it’s ultimately a feature that should be built into the system.

[@kraskagm]

Guys, the real problem is the somewhere else. The country should be made safe, that you don't need to worry about lurking criminals.

[@lamda45]

Well, for the most part, the country voted correctly to change back to working to on making this a safer country, instead of a less safe country, just last week. Some of the wackies running the liberal cities are still there, not all thankfully (e.g. Gaston), so it will take more time as a result.

[@onn8166]

Wow i had this idea when i had an ev was thinking of how would i get out in a potential active shooter situa tion. But wasnt sure how to implement. Very cool😮

[@clnelson321]

What is maddening about this, is Tesla should have this designed into the charging cable, already. Gas pumps have a drive away disconnect built in. They are required by law to design it that way.

[@roggr679]

Fantastic! I hope Tesla buys your company and all your engineers and employees become wealthy.

[@Jaw0lf]

Great discussion and wishing Evject the best of luck with this product as it is a fantastic thing.

[@Emmanuel_Amoah]

Charging autonomously anytime the vehicle sits in the garage will run through charge cycles faster. I’d say that’s a draw back to autonomous wireless inductive charging, as opposed to connecting the charger manually at the end of a day’s drive.

[@DouglasJMark]

Fantastic interview. We have an original EVJECT and they’ll upgrade it. Wow, gas pumps are breakaway? 😎 Police EVs need EV-JECT if charging in any vulnerable circumstances as well.

[@musk-eteer9898]

i always got bear spray ready and if situation escalated my peace keeper is in hand

[@korypostma]

This is the way.

[@aussie2uGA]

I would have agreed a few years ago but have you seen court cases lately? Why have to defend yourself against the courts and court of public opinion now if you could easily drive away and avoid it all?

[@jonathanl2748]

@@aussie2uGAPerps don’t always allow an easy drive away response. There are countless videos on YT at gas stations that illustrate that. I do believe that your car can be a self defense weapon all by itself in some situations. Also, I recommend buying self defense insurance if one carries a pistol. Even if one is innocent, the legal system can be very expensive to defend oneself. Cheers!

[@Liam-ql7tr]

Its not “Adapter” but you keep calling it one. How about “coupler”?

[@SoftAsFur]

$200?!? And then it's gone when you drive away? Might as well get a Ruger LCP....

[@ItsKimJava]

You get a free replacement in the event you need to drive away

[@subwarpspeed]

If it was dirty cheap or wouldn't fund the development of this and people would tend to be lazy and just have it break away and leave the "wand" on the ground. I think it has a price that is reasonable and all but the really rich will want to save the money by, like today, walk outside and remove the wand and put it back in the dispenser holder.

[@MXP90DL]

Kim, I wanted this product since they first released it. However, I can't use the two adapters we have. The Adapter will not fit the 2016 Model X and after all this time they have not redesigned it to fit the 2016's. They say they are working on it but it's almost been two years and no follow-through.

[@dstylez1171]

Tesla should offer them on their wesite...better yet send 1 to all owners now....because it's the safest option

[@robertwhite3503]

Perhaps buy them out and make them standard?

[@sammitchell1445]

Great idea. I’ve been at a few sketchy places late at night. I didn’t know this type of connector was possible. Btw, your discount code doesn’t work on the version 2.0 and that’s all that’s available.

[@AlexGoldrup]

It should now. They have a chat bot that offers a code to get it for $139. It’s EVJECTCHAT

[@chaseing_chase]

As someone with an engineering background, alot of what he said makes complete sense

[@luvyouguys]

Looks like a wonderful much needed product! In the mean time, if you don't have one yet -- if you are caught in a predicament, use your HORN, flash your LIGHTS Then purchase one!

[@t.r.766]

I purchased two evject at San Luis Obispo Tesla take over I have to check now if I received the newest version. I saw the unit in a cyber truck at the show so I assume it’s cyber truck rated. Now I got to check. Thanks for the information!

[@tortoise62]

Brilliant product! Wish you & your team great success.

[@neilfroese9385]

I think it would be important to have maybe silicone or something like that because that’s really heat Resistant, it can be put into a lot of hot environments in it, and it protects our fingers

[@zipp5398]

Sounds to me like Elon, kind of put a boot in the behind of some of his workers and said start working with these people. Their product isn’t completely bad. It just needs some improvements for the future and I do believe Tesla especially Elon within Tesla likes to future proof His products as best as they can. if they can ruling out possible scenarios and that’s not all bad to future proof products so you don’t have to go and turn around and redo them again or send out a bulletin trying to warn people who don’t read instructions all the time that a previous product do not meet the specifications of the new amp range or voltage range or whatever I mean after all, I do see a time when 1000 A at a charger may not be that far-fetched especially with semi trucks getting into the game and as for the voltage, I do see it maybe exceeding 1000 V eventually if it hasn’t already and I just missed it as far as what goes into the vehicle for charging. I mean after all if you wanna look at where the automotive industry may be going take a look at cat and they’re mining equipment. That’s gonna be all electric. That’s quite impressive. The amount of power they’re using for charging. Wouldn’t mind seeing a video about that either hint hint, Kim😁 would be an interesting video out of the norm to do an industrial one about cat great video thanks

[@Beakerzor]

it's better to call it NACS than Tesla anyway, since many non-Tesla's now have NACS and need the solution too

[@jacobheinz8236]

EVject sounds like a great product for safety sake. I would like one in the car!

[@MAGApepe]

if ya had a firearm you wouldnt have to run away

[@aussie2uGA]

I’d agree pre 2020… have you seen the courts lately, news lately, and the infamous “public court of opinion?” They nearly executed Kyle Rittenhouse for his defense a few years ago and courts are now worse.

[@MikeKisil]

All around good video with the added bonus in start ups are still plowing on as difficult in the best of times.

[@cyclopsvision6370]

Nobody cares what SAE thinks, Tesla, and every other auto manufacturer is already on board with the Tesla connector. Even if SAE does not certify the standard, Tesla and the auto industry is moving forward with it

[@JeffDaMarine]

Are you folks allergic to firearms?

[@Beezo-2099]

Pretty sure they're in California. So they'd do life in prison for defending themselves.

[@jamesr.9239]

So if I can't currently just drive away with the charger inserted in the car , what must I do to drive away with their adapter in the mix? Do I just floor it and drive or is there something required on the screen such as "stop charging" to make it possible?

[@grouponful]

Great info!

[@Jbiglin]

This was great info. Thanks!

[@neochimera8666]

Now that we have a new administration, what is it going to do with the EV tax incentive? Is it going to continue all the EV projects and incentives already in place?

[@ItsameBS]

Great product and then I saw the price.

[@AlexGoldrup]

Like a car seat, it’s designed for one time emergency use. Unlike a car seat, they’ll send you a new one if have to use it in an emergency. I’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

[@afjerry1]

Let’s be honest here EVject is very easy to beat. I saw a video where a car came in and blocked the victim from being able to leave and pulled her out of the car and took her away. That’s right it’s that easy to beat just park your car in front of the victim car so they are unable to move.

[@cyclopsvision6370]

That's what cops do in high speed chases, it's called boxing in

[@subwarpspeed]

Well it's not meant to solve all problems. Everyone sketchy isn't driving a car to block you in...

[@AlexGoldrup]

Hopefully the cyber truck could at least push a vehicle out of the way!

[@MrZimmmy]

Is Tesla a good partner with your company? Do you seem to say that the WILD WEST is here to stay until and unless Tesla agrees to cooperate with your company? What is Tesla’s risk of “politely” refusing to mitigate its risk of burning EV-registered drivers??

[@RonBme]

And when driving away is there a guarantee that the two hot feeds will not touch ?

[@RonBme]

Sir brakes do not get 1000 degrees hot maybe 500 but ur motor does reach 1500 if not hotter

[@tony34star]

Im in Australia, no guns, much little crime, thank God.

[@davidwilkie9551]

Excellent interview, good outcomes.

[@johnpoldo8817]

EVject is a wonderful product, but for the number of times many people supercharge, it’s too expensive. Consider pepper spray or other defensive device, costing hundreds less.

[@greghudson9717]

Who brings pepper spray to a gun fight? I know who... THE LOSER.

[@johnpoldo8817]

@ You make a good point assuming perpetrators bring guns. My preference is not to travel in risky areas and carry a weapon, but respect decision of others to act differently.

[@jorgesmith2000]

Build multiple, separate products instead of trying to do a one size fits all. That’s my recommendation

[@TeamYankee2]

Well.. future Teslas will propbably have an "eject" pin that unlocks and pushes out the plug...

[@anunexpectedfire4062]

So… the EvJect guy will launch this product and then Tesla will snatch him up to lead the development of other Tesla branded accessories. Great interview.

[@rogershark9223]

Definitely an interesting problem and this seems like a decent solution. I wish Tesla was more cooperative with them.

[@tscott3rd]

Great interview!

[@Rabs73]

Looking forward to the CCS2 version.

[@robertwhite3503]

Would be better if they went with NACS 🙂

[@greghudson9717]

@@robertwhite3503 NACS is NACS only. The rest of the world uses CCS2 (except Japan).

[@robertwhite3503]

@@greghudson9717 You're right, but CSS2 is horrible. NACS is elegant.

[@greghudson9717]

@@robertwhite3503 Horrible (CCS2) may be, but it's all we have in Australia. The NA in NACS says it all...

[@robertwhite3503]

@@greghudson9717 and the UK!

[@steevegauthier2759]

Wow, USA at it's best: you need to protect yourself while charging... Sorry for you that you have lived that bad moment in your life.

[@FriedChairs]

Interesting interview. Thanks.

[@ItsKimJava]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Rbprofile]

This is not a tesla problem. Vw will not start while charging either.

[@RobertMunro]

if there is a short circuit then the comms pins might not be broken - i think a thermal sensor would be required.

[@AlexGoldrup]

I’m glad they are adding thermal sensors in all new models.

[@jg-bd3hr]

Wireless charging results in an average Energy loss of 30%

[@augurkur]

I'm curious how many people would drive away with a gasoline hose attached. How many people know that the hoses break away?

[@AlexGoldrup]

I accidentally did once 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sb4photos]

Hi from Australia. Aus just announced v2g coming soon. How would having the car connected every night if it did power the house with a home battery aswell degrade the battery ?

[@im4udevco]

A2Z NACS to CCS1 adapter just went through something similar with a resolution after tussling with Tesla. Can this company come up with a NACS to CCS1 breakaway adapter? Good for Tesla to finally work with them on getting this resolved.

[@jeffneilson510]

Tesla just make one themselves and give this guy a royalty.

[@robertmorgan2219]

Patent This is not a complementary product. It should be standard. This guy should get a patent ASAP.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Listen again, I believe Kreg said the company has multiple patents.

[@kelviskelvis7140]

I wonder if EVject has reached out to other CPO's in NA? J3400 standard will not be tesla's issue and in the long term tesla may be less relevant to the market when it comes to charging. I have heard that Charge Point has a few nacs type connectors at a few sites in the US. Do they have concerns about EVject's product line as tesla does?

[@moonpie1616]

I like your videos but I can't sit still long enough to watch the podcast type...😢😢😢

[@ItsKimJava]

No need to sit and watch. Can listen as you drive or do anything else.

[@rp9674]

You probably have to start a deal with Tesla by kissing the ring

[@YTYTYTY7]

8:40 because Tesla will be liable for the result given.

[@cellman1829]

I also found this fascinating. Thank you for this interview. He definitely seems like a very smart and forward thinking individual. I will definitely consider getting this when 2.0 is available for my Tesla. The title and thumbnail were a little clickbaity 🤔. I actually thought you were getting sued that is why I clicked. Can’t really blame you as it did work to get the views.

[@ItsKimJava]

Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, I always say don’t hate the player, hate the game. 😉

[@walkerdarin2003]

recommend Auto Unlock at park to be disabled.

[@Lawrenceflettjr]

Safety 1st.

[@jonasweber9408]

Glad I live in Europe… I don’t think I though about that as many time as Americans seam to

[@aussie2uGA]

Depends on the area of Europe. In many areas of France and some places in the Netherlands, you need to look around at all times.

[@SniperSnake50BMG]

​@@aussie2uGAI recognize France, but Netherlands?...

[@MarcesAurelius]

classify as a, “Break-away Coupler”?

[@solomongrundy1]

Great!

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Glad I don't live in a the country of constant fear of you neighbours, where you think you need a gun and one of these, neither does anything to help with that fear.

[@Liam-ql7tr]

LoL. Government has adapted tesla as standard… It just silly government paper work ( wasted tac money ). Just like IRS AND FFA

[@robertmorgan2219]

Sounds like Tesla realized they missed this feature

[@markplott4820]

I keep hog leg in my door pocket.

[@Rockall57]

Hang on Tesla can and has blocked access to any Tesla vehicle..just look at Kadyrov and his Cybertruck..😂

[@Cloxxki]

What are the odds that assailants are illegal immigrants or otherwise pandered by a corrupted justice system?

[@wertherland]

I don't know. What are they? why don't you tell us?

[@aerodyneservices]

About the same as the odds they are mentally ill and or on drugs.

[@keithfranklin2686]

You got sued by Tesla??

[@usuariocontumaz9029]

This is never an issue in Texas, due to castle and constitutional carry laws.

[@OWill40]

👍

[@JuanDelacruz-vi6bo]

They need to put restrooms on all Tesla charging station too!!

[@FriedChairs]

And roofs for when it’s raining.

[@greghudson9717]

@@FriedChairs Or too sunny.

[@darelldd]

I love to hear people speak so intelligently and put so much thought into a necessary product. There was however one small part that made me cringe. And that was speaking of battery capacities in kilowatts. Units and words truly matter. And while of course we all understood what was meant in this context, using a shortcut this way can quickly lead to confusion in other context. Especially when we're talking about passing energy and making heat.

[@greghudson9717]

I can understand kW as well as kWh. So can everyone else.

[@deepneasy]

Wouldn't it be foolish to discuss sensitive business matters regarding a company you’re working with? This is a careless move.