Sugar Ray Leonard vs Kevin Howard

Sugar Ray Leonard vs Kevin Howard

[@johnlee5423]

I was fortunate to meet Ray 3 weeks ago in Birmingham England, great guy, very humble.

[@arthurwilliams8778]

Ray's one of my favorites.Not only within ring but out of it he was always so candid and honest about good performances as well a bad

[@stevetribue9222]

P

[@brandonhigh958]

This 1 being Bad!

[@mylesputnam639]

Clearly by far Leonard was ahead on points. Kevin didn't react after being hit. Stopped wisely by referee or else he would be hurt seriously

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

Chris Schenkel doing boxing again after Cosell had taken that spot from him at ABC in the mid 60's. I knew him best as the host of the ABC Saturday bowling coverage, but found out as an adult he was the pbp in some of the biggest college football games and the NBA Finals back in the day. RIP.

[@christiancharles2866]

This is Howard Cosell 😅😅😅😅😅

[@johnniea4684]

@@christiancharles2866 It really isn't.

[@MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC]

Horrible announcer! Everything he says was biased against Ray. Good call, Leonard won. He was really going to get hurt. He was not responding or defending himself or punching back... Leonard was gaining ground each round.

[@C-rations2394]

Funny how the commentator never called Leonard's body shots. They were what wore down Howard, IMO. He sounded really happy when Howard connected with anything.

[@PdubU]

YES!!! I SAID THE SAME THING!!!!!! Chris Schenkel WAS AWFUL!

[@jamesroberts2435]

Sugar Ray vs Arron Pryor would have been interesting. I’ve heard that they sparred against each other if anyone has video footage please put it on KZbin

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

Aaron Pryor would never of had the success he had back then today(Too Much Drug Testing😏😉)......"Yes Folks ..before there was Anabolic Steroids...there was that Ol' Stand Bye "Cocaine!" And Aaron Pryor was it's Poster Child(Inside and Outside of the Ring).

[@jamesroberts2435]

@@patrickhausenfleck9045 Ray was a firmer cocaine user too. Let’s say it would have been interesting to see them both fight each other free of any drugs

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@jamesroberts2435 James..Don't even try to put that B.S out there....Ray started using Cocaine( regularly) after the Detached Retina....While Aaron was a long time/Career Level user. Absolute Facts...Top "VEGAN DRUG ABUSER" EVER to hold a world title in the sport of Boxing ....Facts! And he and Panama Lewis Should have been BANNED PERMANENTLY from Boxing.

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@jamesroberts2435 Aaron was always on the juice(hence what always appeared in his fights....that constant whirlwind action that you would see him perform.....Sorry Folks that was never Natural...he was always on a Cocaine High when he was that Hyper....Hence his Career is full of Holes.

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@jamesroberts2435 Like I said before...Aaron Pryor ..or any other fighter like him ....would never have lasted very long today...because of the Drug Testing.

[@johnniea4684]

Shocked watching this at the time as nobody expected SRL to have any trouble with Howard. Second shock was him retiring again straght after, which was an overreaction from Leonard. He had unrealistic expectations as to how he'd perform after the eye problems and the 27 months off. Yes, his timing and reflexes were off, he got dropped and tagged too often, but he picked a decent fighter who was super-motivated to get the opportunity to fight a great ex-Champion with a massive media profile. He was overconfident and should have taken on a more limited opponent for his comeback, THEN took on someone like Howard. I think he was embarrassed by his performance against Howard and it knocked his confidence, hence the retirement. Consequently he missed out on a large section of his prime by not fighting again until 1987, almost 3 years later. For the record I thought the 2 judges were way off on their scoring, the referee was probably correct, with Leonard a point up after 8. The stoppage was a little premature, though Howard was clearly wearing down from round 8. It was rather the timing of the stoppage, as Leonard had missed a few shots when the ref dived in. A few seconds earlier and there probably would be few complaints.

[@kaymiankillerbee8994]

Good fight, good stoppage by the referee. I see people commenting that the referee stop it too early but it's better too early than too late because if get ko the talk would be different.

[@salimelamin7589]

Ok

[@richardceballos216]

Perfect boxer he got it all…Sugar Ray Leonard

[@adammammana367]

This fight was stopped because the referee is inched away and can hear Leonard landing flush hard punches and Howard was defenseless at that moment. In the 10th Leonard was gonna KO him for sure.

[@gl6996]

I agree, but as a fan, you want to see that knockout!!! I'm sure Sugar Ray wanted to ko Howard...

[@kelvinbloomfield1375]

bulshit leonard got lucky was getting beaten up bad .but got lucky

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@kelvinbloomfield1375 what's wrong still sore about the middleweight kings big "Exposure Embarrasment"...actually it was better that marvin fought Leonard when he did...cause Ray would have Kayoed him back in 81'

[@Bruins-vq5ey]

@@patrickhausenfleck9045 hahahaha ya ok..

[@cade9173]

@@patrickhausenfleck9045 the guy you’re responding too is a dumbass but so are you 💀 Hagler didn’t get exposed it was about as close a fight as possible and Ray would never EVER have KOd Hagler nobody could do that not even Hearns

[@richardalexander4300]

Ray has always been a classy guy !!! In and out of the ring one of the great sports figures to represent the United States of America 🇺🇸!!!!! Thank You Ray Lenard !!!!!

[@blite13]

wrong...Ray had to hurt an amateur fighter in an exhibition because the amateur hit him. Ray lied about his eye so he wouldn't have to fight Marvin while Marvin was in his prime. He paid off Duran's handlers and Don King to force Duran into the ring when he couldn't be ready. Ray is a liar, liars don't have class, it's fake.

[@WeaselScratches]

@@blite13 durans manager agreed to the bout, leonard has nothing to do with durans manager

[@blite13]

@@WeaselScratches Ray gave most of his purse to Duran's corner.....he paid them off, he also paid off Don King to go along....money talks, especially in the boxing world.

[@WeaselScratches]

@@blite13 that doesn't necessarily mean he paid them off to quit the fight also where can I find this information?

[@blite13]

@@WeaselScratches Ray knew Duran was way overweight, so Ray called Duran's people and told them that he would give them most of his purse for the fight, if they could get Duran to sign for a fight they ALL KNEW Duran could not be ready for. Ray has said it multiple times, that his strategy was to get a less than 100% Duran in the ring. Duran's training had no sparring or working on strategy....it was all about getting to weight and he did, but by the time he got in the ring, it started to fall apart. Duran had no legs, no strength because of losing all that weight so fast. Panama Lewis swears Duran quit because he had to take a big dump. The whole thing was a mess but Ray got his belt back and that is all that mattered to Ray and the boxing world.

[@redsammy7789]

Howard should be glad they stopped it, Ray had his bell rung and howard was going to be on the floor for good soon.

[@NikoHL]

Wasn't a controversial stoppage at all. The man was taking too much damage. Good refereeing. Leonard's announcement to retire was premature though..

[@richardceballos216]

Sugar Ray Leonard in most fine boxer of all times… everybody knows he was the most complete fighter of all time

[@damianweatherhead4871]

Yes so true sugar is a number one always that fight is all win by Sugar leonard

[@duanemarshall7612]

Ray Leonard & larry Holmes in the 80"had a reputation of ending fights when they have you in trouble however, refs got to protect fighters that are unanswered.

[@crystalexmartinez7907]

I watched this match with Howard Davis Jr. in 1989.

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

Sugar Ray Leonard is a super hero fighter

[@humbleastheycomefuckingwit8352]

I Have Seen Film Of Pryor vs Hearns As Amateur's. I Had Seen(heard) On One Of These Channels That Pryor vs Leonard Was Scheduled And If Not Mistaken Showed Part Of A News Conference Of The 2. The Fight Was Called Because Of Leonard's "Detached Retina". That Fight Would have been Something, Even With Pryor Moving Up In Weight. How Pryor Stayed On His Feet After Perfect Right By Arguello Still Amazes me

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

If the referee didn't stop the round there we'd probably have a tragedy

[@wepipe]

Excellent commentary. Nice.

[@richardceballos216]

The greatest sugar Ray Leonard no doubt

[@ellischaney]

Probably stopped a little early (near end of the round)..But Howard had lots to tell his grandkids.

[@woodfreak814]

SRL retired at the right time. Unlike a lot of Boxers. kept his marbles, made his money and got out. Good for him.

[@alexsegurasr3028]

Kevin Howard should be happy he got the opportunity for a big pay day, for his ungratefulnesd he never got another one

[@merloncox4408]

Did he say at 33:38 that he was not hurt!! Maybe by now he's seen this round up until the ending of the fight! 😳😳

[@firstlast1278]

Lol so deserved that right hand by Howard in round 4. I don't care how good you think you are. KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP

[@jeromeclouden5125]

Very very good

[@bigred3096]

The Sugar man Leonard laid down some salty sweet on Kevin at the end there... Good call ref... Kevin was a good worthy opponent... Sugar Ray rue the day! All Class Mr. Sugar Ray Charles Leonard... Thank you sir, for all the years of best fighting boxing entertainment I ever had the honor of watching from 1977 until 1997. 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@ellismarcelle5645]

THIS Sugar Ray NEEDED three more preparatory years to even last the distance with Marvin Hagler, much less steal a win! Not sharp and letting a tune-up fighter tag him repeatedly.

[@LesLess]

This is a good fight, but the artifacts from the interlace of the video is kind of distracting. This is good moderation, though. There's another better example on youtube.

[@021881mt]

12:34 😅😆🤣 So tense and real just the way I like it...the grown way which it should be

[@yuljamaljones9924]

👊🏽💯👊🏽

[@ademolaapata801]

Sugar would win at the end, but the referee stopped the fight too early.

[@blite13]

Had to try and make Ray look like he was back....he wasn't, so he quit again and waited until Marvin's legs were gone, waited for Hearns legs to be gone before he would give him a rematch....waited until Duran was finished before he would fight him......Ray is a fraud. Very good fighter, but a phony.

[@craigpervis2556]

He beat Marvin hagler. And he beat him by out boxing him Marvin a couple steps to slow Marvin was great but not on that night he let ray Leonard steal round after round and that's what made ray great he knew what it took to win and he did it with skill

[@blite13]

Ray waited until Marvin was shot......are you dumb? Ray wouldn't fight Marvin until Marvin's legs were completely shot. Ray paid off Duran's corner and Don King so Ray could fight a less than 100% Duran.....then Ray would only give Hearns a rematch when the boxing world had thought Tommy was done. Tommy gave him a big surprise. Ray has no class, don't care how much money he has, you can't buy class.

[@doctortommy]

41:00 Ray retires for good, until he came back against Hagler, then Lalonde, then Norris, and then Camacho.

[@ryanesau8147]

He was KOd..no question

[@BobCat623923]

Quick stoppage but Howard was in deep trouble. Legs went to rubber.....holding on for dear life. But definitely a quick stoppage.

[@alanchong7513]

"When Marvin Hagler slows down, then I'll come back again..."

[@LuvThatDirtyWater]

exactly.. "then I'll retire and I won't offer a rematch"

[@alanchong7513]

@@LuvThatDirtyWater Leonard, although a great boxer was always an even better talker. A guy wearing a suit who you shouldn't trust. He wouldn't look outta place working in a Wall Street firm. Haha

[@hammer3353]

Leonard was a great fighter, but he wasn't going to challenge a prime Marvin Hagler. He was too smart for that.

[@jaimebarbosa8490]

@@LuvThatDirtyWater 0pppppppppppppppp000ppppp I'll

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@LuvThatDirtyWater B.S. he didn't retire....and Hagler refused a rematch.

[@yuljones7720]

🥊💯🥊

[@radar0412]

Although not known as a power puncher, Leonard knew how to leverage his punches to get the most out of them. And had several KO's as a result!

[@wd9161]

He was known as a power puncher

[@wd9161]

He was considered a great finisher especially in his prime, he had a number of 1 punch knockouts and if his opponent was hurt he would go straight for the kill mixing quick combinations and power punches

[@radar0412]

@@wd9161 You have to remember, Sugar Ray Leonard was Hated by many within the Boxing community for his Flamboyant style of boxing. As a result, Ray was labeled as a finesse fighter. Even though boxing experts such as you and Myself knew otherwise.

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

SEVERAL K.O.s????...Either your Sarcastic or just not too extremely bright😉

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

@@wd9161 Exactly why when Hagler wanted him back in 81'....I thought "Your Delussional Marvin"...The Leonard of 1981' was 3 times the Leonard of 1987'...Hagler would have gotten Smoked!!! Haglers level of competition up until that time was crap compared to leonards already 4 or 5 seasoned fights against highly skilled opponents.

[@richardceballos216]

If you got somebody most complete that him in the history of boxer let me know

[@johnniea4684]

Sugar ray Robinson, not even close.

[@cholly853]

Waaaahhhh!

[@user-sr4pc7us9z]

Naw he was done good call by the ref.

[@joeblow2069]

Howard's biggest claim to fame was beating Bobby Joe Young who at the time was considered the next great emerging welterweight. Howard had lost 2X to Roger Stafford and to Marlon Starling and Mark Medal coming into this fight.

[@johnniea4684]

Howard was a good, well-schooled fighter, fringe contender at 147. Not real contender level. Like a lot of Philadelphia fighters he wore down relatively young age due to the infamous gym wars that went on in Philly.

[@gregoryswift7804]

Referee seen enough he didn’t want that boy to get hurt he was grabbing n holding on for dear life, ref mighta saved his career 👊🏽🤯😴

[@karinalatinka3640]

Ray Leonard don't want no part of Arron Pryor anybody who boxed back in our day knew ray avoided Arron at all cost. Arron was a machine. Not to say it wouldn't have been spectacular and ray was good but Arron was in another atmosphere.

[@richardcollins2622]

I hear this way too much. Aaron Pryor fought his entire career at 140 pounds…a Junior Welterweight. He never moved up to fight a single welterweight his entire career. Was Leonard supposed to move DOWN to fight Pryor? There were plenty of 147 pounders Pryor could have moved up and fought in the 1980s…Curry, Starling, McCrory, Honeyghan, Duran, Benitez, Hearns…the smaller man has to come up in weight and take the challenge. Pryor chose not to do it.

[@JL-bz9hi]

Well said Pryor knew his limitations

[@jimred5700]

Aaron was a magnificent fighter; but the fight with Leonard was made. It didn`t happen because Aaron kept demanding more money. This was despite the fact that he was being offered 3-4 times more than he had ever earned. I think that in his heart Aaron knew SRL would have been too hot to handle, too cold to hold.

[@robertcolcombe6893]

Pryor priced himself out of a fight with Leonard , Pryor never had a defence and ray would have taken advantage of that

[@florenciosusana2713]

Si esa pelea no la paran . Se muere dentro del ring...tenían que parar la pelea.. leonal es el mejor de todos los tiempo.

[@richardalexander4300]

Ray as much as I love him, went to many of his fights, I have never felt he beat Marvin Hagler !!! I know some others feel differently, those are just my feelings !!! Hagler was robbed repeatedly because he would not let the insiders control his career !!!! I meet him at the Mugabi fight and he was a real Gentlemen !!! One of nicest human beings I have met on the cuff or spur of the moment !!!

[@alexsegurasr3028]

It took an act of congress for him to get a title shot, than

[@johnlee5423]

Hagler was a great champion and human being. But l felt that he should have been able to have nailed leonard, leonard had only 1 fight in 5 years before he fought Hagler. We never really saw leonard during his peak years.

[@kawaiiafangirl]

The last time I scored that one, I had it 7 rounds to 5 for Ray. However, I do believe that if Hagler fought at his natural Southpaw stance in the first two rounds or had the bout taken place in early 1986 instead of Hagler vs. Mugabi (where Hagler clearly took a lot of big shots), then Hagler most likely would've won.

[@kawaiiafangirl]

@@jimnagel5611 k

[@kawaiiafangirl]

@@jimnagel5611 k

[@1man1bike1road]

Leonard whupped

[@hunkallgood73]

What?

[@ryanesau8147]

Where?

[@joaubrey390]

What is the put the kid to take it

[@lo-lo-20]

ik og kev philly nigga🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheIceman101]

Didn’t look like you won to me buddy.

[@williamstockstill7730]

Leonard was winning the fight.

[@aafris]

Ray didn't look like himself at all in this fight

[@joselitocamat12]

He must learn how to accept defeat

[@NohSpinZone]

"Sugar Ray knows he can't beat me." - Kevin Howard, moments after getting beaten. 😂

[@atheistasylum]

B.S!

[@alexsegurasr3028]

Sugar Ray Leonard and Kevin Howard look like Mohammed All and Smoking Joe Frazier

[@blite13]

hardly.

[@871jamie]

Leonard would have probably knocked him out eventually. But that stoppage was way to early!

[@hanks5379]

Talkin shit from a boxing lesson from an old elite fighter and was embarrased. Excuses but the Ref saved you howard from being KO'd

[@blite13]

Ray was 28 here, still in prime years.

[@princeblizzard8912]

The commentary sucks!

[@briantr7379]

Very clear the judges and ref fixed it for sugar.

[@Carlparishhonda]

THE RIGHT CALL TO STOP THE FIGHT, BECAUSE HOWARD WAS NOT PUNCHING BACK. HE WAS LIKE A MAN DROWNING IN A SEA OF PUNCHES.

[@patrickgarrett8341]

Premature stoppage.

[@jamesowens3486]

Ray lost that fight.

[@blite13]

How many times did Ray quit? I thought his eye was ruined? That's why he didn't fight Marvin? Then all of a sudden, a miracle happens and the eye fixed itself (impossible). Ray always lied...no respect for liars

[@johnniea4684]

He had surgery on his eye in May 1982; this is a matter of public record. The Howard fight was delayed as Leonard had further surgery on the retina in the right eye, which had become loose (not detached). I remember all this at the time, so I don't know what you're problem is with the guy. Retina damage can cause blindness.

[@blite13]

@@johnniea4684 sooooo, why did Ray side step Marvin in his prime? And then he quits after Howard saying it's just not there anymore? Then he see's a declining Hagler fight Mugabi and then all of a sudden Ray wants to fight Marvin. He paid off Duran's corner to fight his biggest rival when he wasn't at his best.....and Ray admits he did this on purpose.... and you condone that crap.....I don't. Top fighters want to fight their rivals when they are at their best....I guess Ray never heard of that before. You can call the guy whatever you want, his actions showed his character and he isn't what the media made him out to be.

[@johnniea4684]

@@blite13 Leonard had every intention of fighting Hagler. His step up to 154 in 1981 was in preparation for an eventual move to 160. He suffered a detached retina. 1972 Olympic gold medalist Sugar Ray Seales fought on with detached retinas + went legally blind. That's why SRL retired in 1982. He aborted his comeback in 1984 due to imo overreacting to a bad performance in the Howard fight. Over the next couple of years he changed his mind. Maybe part of that was seeing Hagler struggle against Mugabi, but let's not forget nobody gave him a chance when they fought in 1987. Hagler was undisputed champion on a long run of wins, was hardly an old man at 32 + Leonard had fought once in 5 years, getting dropped by the ordinary Howard + had never fought at 160. I remember clearly at the time that everyone thought Hagler would kill him. Leonard was a smart operator outside the ring but you obviously just don't like him. Between 1979-1981 he fought Benitez, Duran twice, Kalule + Hearns, an unprecedented run of hard fights. He then steps up against the pound for pound #1 in the world, in Hagler. The guy ducked nobody. He was a great champion + top-tier competitor.

[@blite13]

@@johnniea4684 Ray took the 1st Duran fight, thinking Duran was finished, Kalule was not much of a threat. Ray was losing to Tommy when Tommy's legs gave out. Tommy weighed in, the morning of the fight, at 145lbs. He was over trained and it cost him that fight. By the time Ray fought Hagler, Marvin was well past his prime and his legs were gone. Ray cherry picked and those who aren't blinded by fandom, can see he is over rated.

[@johnniea4684]

@@blite13 First off, I respect Leonard for his ability and achievements, but he was never a favourite fighter of mine. i disliked the way he fought the second Duran fight and I was rooting for Hagler in their fight, so you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not "blinded by fandom", as I'm not a fan. You, however, as you've shown in this exchange so far are coloured by a dislike of him. Examples; #1: How was Duran finished for the first fight? Please explain you're reasoning here. He hadn't lost a fight in almost 8 years and had moved up to 147 as Undisputed Lightweight champion. He had just turned 29 and was probably at his peak. #2: Kalule. Leonard wanted to win a light middleweight title whilst waiting to unify at 147 vs Hearns. Kalule was 36-0 and had made 4 title defences prior to fighting Leonard. The only alternative, WBC champ Maurice Hope priced himself out of the fight, so who else was Leonard supposed to challenge? #3 Hearns. Overtrained? You're confusing the Leonard fight with the Hagler fight, after which Emanuel Steward claimed a pre-fight massage had taken something out of Hearns' legs. I've never heard Hearns or Steward say anything about him being overtrained. Hearns was slightly up on the judges' cards after 13 rounds, but he was unable to finish the 15 rounds distance, so it's irrelevant. Regardless, how is Leonard responsible for Hearns' training? #4 Hagler: I've already addressed your claims on this, which you've ignored, instead just repeating yourself. Hagler was Undisputed Middleweight champion and was unbeaten in 11 years when he fought Leonard. Yes, he had trouble with the undefeated puncher Mugabi, but still knocked him out in making his 11th defence. Leonard, meanwhile had fought once in 5 years (looking bad in a win), had never fought at 160. Hagler opened as a 4-1 favourite, down to 3-1 by the day of the fight. I remember the lead up to the fight very well and almost nobody picked Leonard to win, including me. And yes, I'd watched Hagler-Mugabi. Most thought Hagler would go after him as he had vs Hearns and win inside the distance. You forgot to take any credit away from him for beating Benitez btw. After all, Benitez only trained 3 days for the fight.

[@Buckbarrel]

Kevin howard is the best fighter ever

[@oblomurg]

15:01 SRL king of Klowns! Cringe worth lmao...

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

Slick as can be even when not 100%....sure embarrassed Hagler😉😉😉😉😉😉😏

[@hunkallgood73]

Look at all that salt you split. Hater.

[@oblomurg]

@@hunkallgood73 I just love to see those who humiliate others get their just reward. Payback's a mother.

[@safaamodir5593]

yeah karma is always right around the corner lol kinda like when Ali talked so much trash against Joe Frazier before their first fight

[@Bruins-vq5ey]

@@patrickhausenfleck9045 embarrassed Hagler? By losing?

[@danielbenjamin4193]

howard got robbed

[@fransiscoscaramanga674]

Hagler was robbed!!!!

[@oblomurg]

Leonard needs to be berated for this overreaching and pretentious display of pugilism. He wanted to be like Michael but all that Koque from 7up messed up his medulla oblongata.

[@robrubio5303]

I like sugar ray but that fight was stopped to protect him from a loss

[@trentmash8133]

What loss. He was ahead on all judges cards and on the referee's card

[@patrickhausenfleck9045]

Hardly😂

[@ryanesau8147]

U mean the one round Howard won on the flash knockdown?

[@salimelamin7589]

That’s right

[@johnniea4684]

@@ryanesau8147 Flash knockdown? He walked straight onto a hard right and was hurt. You don't know boxing if you think that was a flash knockdown.

[@PdubU]

Chris Schenkel was terrible in this fight in round 5 he said Ray was flatfooted and not on his toes... as he was on his toes and bouncing. He gave Ray no credit the whole fight!! AWFUL HE WAS!!

[@ryanmartin9987]

commentator was a biased fool. Turn the sound off and watch.Kevin won 2,3,4,5 and 8. 8 was close. Good call by ref.Kevin stopped his rht cross after the 5th.he threw 1 with authority in 6,7,8. He was either unfit or they may have been given a proposition between 5 and 6, ha.Leonard should consider himself lucky that Kevin never let his hands go,a lack of confidence.Leonard was 1 of the best, he did not need to be gifted the Hagler fight or the Hearns draw.Hagler and Hearns got robbed because of his popularity. Real word

[@ryanmartin9987]

And he ducked McCullem.

[@iosis99]

They all ducked McCallum. Which is too bad, because he was great.

[@richardceballos216]

In his prime nobody’s is better of Sugar Ray Leonard..complete boxer

[@andrewskratt9552]

ray robinson was the greatest