Sultai Sidisi Whip Standard Deck Tech - Khans of Tarkir!

[@biggesturtle]

*runs to the top of a mountain and finds Surrak* "Please give me a good temur deck tech from Wedge I brought some bears for you to punch"

[@TheManaSource]

Matt Ladocsi Your wish shall be granted ;)

[@grandoldpyro]

TheManaSource God bless your heart, Wedge

[@justinkim5794]

TheManaSource I also really want to see a good temur deck

[@flawl3sslogic]

Your videos are so good man! I watch every single one so I can see how other decks are playing in the meta. Thanks a lot for the fantastic content

[@raphaelcristofaro5117]

Flying, Deathtouch, Lifelink.... may that be called Nighthawk bees?

[@TheManaSource]

Raphael Cristofaro Love it.

[@atlys258]

This is fantastic, so glad its working. Soon as I saw Sidisi spoiled I immediately started a list for BUG/Sultai Whip. Only real difference in mine were the Souls of Innistard for Siege Rhinos as a 2 of.

[@SENOR_David]

Great deck tech, looks super fun to play. Thank you.

[@TheManaSource]

DrillOllie Thanks for watching!

[@plagas1388]

Ive been playing various builds around Sidisi , cant wait to sleeve this up

[@jessemesiti542]

Awesome video, Was having trouble with a Sultai deck until i watched this. Subscribed, Thanks a lot mate.

[@xIoPeRaTiOnZIx]

I've been playing Sidisi EDH since pre-release. She's so awesome, In Garruk's Wake followed by a Rise of the Dark Realms is also pretty brutal.

[@spathirty3d828]

I will give it a shot. Thanks Wedge!

[@TheManaSource]

Spa Thirty 3d Yay!

[@nugTHUMPERrx]

A deck similar to this destroyed me last night at an event while I was playing Temur Monsters. It was great and hilarious. Game one he T1, Elvish Mystic, T2, Satyr Wayfinder for a Polluted Delta, T3, Sidisi + zombie (I Lightning Strike her), T4, Murderous Cut my Stormbreath Dragon and Drops another Sidisi. It was pretty much over. A few turns later I was able to stop his Hornets with a Barrage of Boulders, but it was too late and I was too far behind. Game two I never drew any Disdainful strokes or Stubborn Denials. He dropped a couple Doomwake Giants on me and wrecked my mana dorks and I was never able to stabilize. Instead of Coursers, he was running Deathdealers and inevitably (with a small horde of zombies), that is what pounded my face in with for the win. Don't know if Courser in this deck is really necessary. It's not good on the whip back, and the Deathdealers are good at any point in the game. With enough mana late game you can whip them back and pump.

[@7mean7bunny7]

TheManaSource I built U/B Control as well as Sidisi Whip, and I have been doing excellent against all the Midrange strategies running around. Not to mention it made Top 8 at the Pro Tour. It would be awesome if you did a U/B Control deck tech Wedge. Keep up the good work.

[@ravenkunz3648]

I run a Sultai deck and although this one took a slightly different direction I do like it.

[@sidisibroodtyrant9846]

i have my own deck strategy!! (sniff) i feel special

[@TheManaSource]

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant My liege! I am graced by your presence once again.

[@inaquianallforce4042]

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant Gods, I have been playing you as my commander since the pre-release. I love you so much, and my friends wish you were never born. I've sat down at a 5 man game of Commander, showed everyone you as my general, and 4 of them got up and walked off. You are so good.

[@sidisibroodtyrant9846]

Robert Benton i know. i am so good

[@sidisibroodtyrant9846]

TheManaSource loyal minion. i am pleased to see you

[@bashnichcorner]

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant sss oh hey its you, this is awkward :\ im sorry for what zurgo did to you, hes kind of a sick sob haha :p

[@moonlitegram]

I actually run 4 Nyx Weaver in the build I put together. Its a card I'm always happy to see in this deck, and with so much removal out there, and the chance of them turning up in the graveyard, I want the 4 in there. In my mind its just as much a staple of this deck as Sidisi is.

[@danielps6629]

I was looking at making a deck similar to this, except my list had Nighthowler and Nemesis of Mortals, but it also had Commune with the Gods and less removal.

[@Potatomuffin]

The thing that I like about the whip deck as well is that your creatures can basically become a handful of instants even when they get self-milled or killed, especially when you sideboard properly. Going against a ton of tokens/mini dudes? Whip that Doomwake giant. Going against a mirror and need to get rid of that whip? Whip in that Reclamation Sage. Big fat wall of monsters on the opponent's field? Whip in that Hornet Queen and ponder how a legendary hydra is scared of one goddamn hornet. If only shadowborn demon existed in this block then I would totally put him in there.

[@julianmtg2809]

Hey Wedge, love the deck techs there great. I am planning on building this deck, I like it a ton. I was starting to make some tweaks like adding another courser and taking out an elf, then I realized that I was taking your deck idea BECAUSE, I have not proved to be good at making my own constructed decks currently. Before I completely throw away my binder to get these cards I would like to know why it is not worth it to put in some more "controlly" cards like treasure cruise, dig through time, or taigam's scheming. Also, if you were to add one in, which one would you add?

[@manufacturingdiscontent8829]

This is what my fellow Sultai Player at my local shop plays

[@TheManaSource]

Sam Graff The strategy is just so fun.

[@levihayden4880]

I play modern and I'm interested in this. are there any wider variety card choices to make this a more modern-ish deck?

[@eclipsa9454]

I currently don't have anything specific in mind, but what I would suggest doing is look at the lands and staple cards and then try to replace them with cards that do the same thing better, that are modern legal. Get what I mean?

[@GreenLuckyDog]

I actually built a Sultai deck but it doesn't play anything like this one. Thanks for sharing its great to see other strategy's.

[@ProdigalSonOfSony]

Cool deck tech; I've seen similar builds, but on that regard said builds I've seen seem to be equally competitive without being as ridiculously expensive. Sultai FTW.

[@j_y1343]

Can someone please tell me where i can find a proper version of the image shown at 0:44 in the upper right corner? that'd be amazing ^^

[@Whoisthattroll]

Sidisi is great for graveyard shenanigans. How does this sound? Turn one- Opulent Palace Turn Two - Rattleclaw Mystic/Elvish mystic Turn three - Sidisi, Mill for a token. From there, Nyx Weaver, whip of Erebos or even Nighthowler could be good plays. As long as the self mill keeps going, Nighthowler is just gonna get bigger. Just watch that you don't deck yourself in the process, but I doubt you will before the game is over and your opponent is smashed by Sidisi + Nighthowler.

[@MrInfernoblade10]

Wow this is insanely close to the idea I had right after release :)

[@guftders]

I don't get why people don't run Taigams Scheming. Its a two drop sorcery that allows you to look at the top 5 cards of your deck, ditch whatever you want to, then put the rest back in any order. So basically you ditch anything you can't immediately cast (like Hornet Queen and Soul) and set yourself up for the next couple of turns. How is that not simply amazing?

[@imnoexpert1926]

I KNOW, i keep telling people this. thank you

[@arenkai]

At first I didn't understand either but then I faced a Jeskai and aggro meta. And know I understand why they play Wayfinder over Scheming: it trades enough for you to survive the early game against aggro and it fixes your manabase faster than Scheming and it allows you to deal a bit of damage before it gets killed ^^

[@guftders]

Ah OK, but still, can't both be run?

[@arenkai]

I honestly don't see where it could fit in. If there was a reason to swap Wayfinder (local meta i.e.) my choice would be Commune With Gods since it puts the card you want IN your hand. It's basically faster than just being able to scry 5 and dump stuff. Sultai Whip has a slow gameplan that resembles Control decks with no real early-threats, so your goal is to take advantage as fast as possible and throw your threats at your opponent's face. And all this is done by keeping the tempo in early-game with board presence and fast quality advantage

[@TheMissthebus]

It loses card advantage, and at sorcery speed is way too slow to even be an ok scry effect.

[@bigred2017]

This deck is crazy good.

[@TheManaSource]

***** HECK YEAH IT IS!

[@francescognerre2408]

I low-key want to build this in Commander now

[@SENOR_David]

Sir Wedge, the Wise Do you think this standard format is slow enough for minotaurs to prevail finally with the mardu banners? What would help? Your opinion is appreciated.

[@AGoldenThespian]

I've been running a 4-color (really just G/B with a tiny hint of R/U) version of this deck which emphasizes token makers and Purphoros. You know what's better than Whipping back a Hornet Queen? Whipping back a Hornet Queen and dealing 10 damage to your opponent's face.

[@TheManaSource]

Stephen Galindo haha

[@AeonAxisProductions]

im intrested to see how this deck would be changed now with the synergy between sidisi and tasigur

[@venom88m]

I have a similar sidsi whip deck but its a little more leaning towards damage. I only have2 sidisi but run a playset of master of the feast. one game I had satyr turn 2, sultai ascendancy 3, sidisi 4 with zombie, another zombie with ascendancy put the whip out turn 5, attacked with sidisi got anoter zombie, turn 6 bring back a master of the feast and used a become emmense! Game! I absolutely love this deck but I need morewhips I am only running 2

[@ilike2cudance]

im torn with what deck i want 2 play next!!! i have jeskai completed and i love the way its set up.... i have no idea what else i want to play... everything is costing way too much

[@heyontv]

question! has this deck been tested with jace guild pact? the +1 lets u draw cards and adds the grave yard of ur choice..... maybe? maybe?

[@TheManaSource]

heyontv Yeah. I ended up not needing it honestly.

[@matthewstapleton1820]

How do you feel about a Walkers deck in the current meta? I was thinking of a control-esque list running Sultai colors, with sweet walkers like Kiora, Ashiok, and Liliana whom are all decent agains the current midrange strategies.

[@TheManaSource]

Matthew Stapleton Sultai Walkers is something I want to work with. There's a long list of potential decks I'm working through right now.

[@lopacee]

A few months ago, I was running B/W warriors, and my opponent was running sidisi whip. well, we both got out a whip, and the game went to turns. My opponent almost milled herself out by the end of the game.

[@freezewindow1]

wait, i don't get the windswept heath in the manabase, you only have basic forests swamps and islands, so isn't the heath effectively just a basic forest that costs 1 life to play ?

[@flawl3sslogic]

This strategey seems like a good way to put your opponent on tilt.

[@jesusserrano3879]

Any ideas when playing vs the Blue/Black control deck?

[@flamingRose100]

you know i always hated sultai ever since GP Orlando where that's all i got for draft, but now this is running my favorite card this format and mini vampire nighthawks by turn 5 or 6 if your lucky

[@nickborchich4382]

Two questions 1 do u think the whip of erebos will jump in price? 2 how does the mono red aggro air against this deck and wht should its sideboard be for this deck, Ike maybe torch fiend/reckless reveler, or not?

[@chessmaster1569]

fair* (same person)

[@Jernyman]

I didn't foresee this becoming a thing. I stand corrected...

[@jlmckinney71]

Hey TheManaSource if you cant get the Sylvan Caryatid or Courser, what would would you replace them with?

[@TheManaSource]

jlmckinney71 Rattleclaw Mystic for Caryatid. No idea for Courser. I would probably just finish the set of Elvish Mystics. Add a few Nyx Weavers and maybe go with Commune or Treasure Cruise or something like that.

[@jlmckinney71]

Thank you very much!! :D

[@theVoidyTv]

So because sidisi is fragile i thought "why not make sidisi whipe + charms" on top of mono green devotion. So early game you can push and if game goes into long you can fire backup strategy with sidisi.

[@pjsminecrafter9361]

I'm going to use the deck list (as close as possible) but adding some amazing cards like torrent elemental and temporal trespass and rakshasa vizier I had a sultai commander deck and I'm using most of the standard cards in it Also I'm mainboarding empty the pits

[@pjsminecrafter9361]

At least, I think the cards are good

[@barbot2053]

Could you do a deck tech for U/B Control?

[@rachellewilliams3070]

Oh, this is beautiful! Thank you!

[@Slaitaar]

Id like to make a suggestion, maybe just in the description of the video, or preferably in the video itself, could you include the AT RELEASE OF VIDEO cost of the deck? One - out of curiosity, two - to know whether its a deck im even likely to contemplate :D

[@nayod78]

Yesssss!

[@nitale55688]

can anyoe of u tell me why Windswep heath is in this list? do u realy need that forest so hardly? i just cant find an answer for that. PLS HELP

[@definitelyNotGreg]

i would recommend reclamation sage for the side board

[@TheManaSource]

Gregory Lindeman Good addition if you have an artifact or enchantment heavy meta!

[@patrykludera8593]

are ashiok and liliana vess good planeswalkers? and also lotleth troll?

[@Audiot4pe]

Revived with the new planeswalkers!!!

[@OhMercyMe]

Yo Wedge, if you want a Temur deck to cover I reccommend the Temur Aggro deck that Brian Kibler played at the latest GP.

[@recret1]

if this deck is good against jeskai and abzan, why nobody plays it? should i start it? i just loved it thanks for answer!

[@kazukixe]

my version runs nemesis mortal, night howler, and icy blast (sagu and terra stomper in side board)

[@BricksterHD]

So I really like this deck and want to try it out. Buuuuut is there any way to swap out the coursers out? Money is the problem here..

[@TheManaSource]

BricksterHD You can swap them out for another Mystic, more Nyx Weavers, and possibly some Treasure Cruise.

[@BricksterHD]

Ah nice, thanks for the fast answear! I love your deck tech videos! :3 especially the one like these when you show decks that's not so common c:

[@TheManaSource]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@theVoidyTv]

i wonder if anyone tried to add Whip of Erebos to Abzan Midrange. Rhino and Roc can be kinda... extra valuable in such case.

[@dwightwilliams5611]

how come there is no return to your hand stuff

[@frodobaggins6684]

I'm almost done making this deck, anybody please tell me why Sultai Ascendancy should not be in here? I know the card has nothing to do with the strategy and the mana cost could be difficult, but before you draw you have the choice to pick which card (out of the two) that you draw first, so could it maybe be a side board???

[@frodobaggins6684]

***** thanks man :)

[@Feebletrash101]

I'd love see a deck teck for a deck that runs red blue white black

[@Fireblake00]

Just wondeing if the mana souce could do a G/W buget deck for standard please and thank you!!

[@zachlol2884]

TheManaSource can you update the deck now that frf came out

[@connornewton4743]

I have trouble with aggro decks but I don't have courses of Memphis or selfish mystic I am confused

[@latorquemada]

Did KZbin translate hose you

[@durakku]

Hmmm. I just traded for a sidisi and a whip from a friend not too long ago. Is this a sign for me to build this deck?

[@joshhirsh2862]

Can u please do a Black white aggro deck tech pleas :)

[@CarterPSN]

What about Jace? I would think he'll fit perfectly in this deck.

[@TheManaSource]

CarterPSN I have no idea what I would take out. I REALLY like every card in it right now.

[@Necrow_Productions]

Best Sultai deck! Sorry, Tolarian Community College.... I still love you and your decks! XD

[@Kismetvdex]

Thoughts on Nighthowler?

[@TheManaSource]

kismet vdex Goes against the deck. You don't want stuff to stay in your graveyard. You want to be delving stuff away and bringing stuff back.

[@Haannibal777]

Dig. Every deck with blue mana needs dig! Seriously though, would dig help you find the pieces to this deck?

[@TheManaSource]

Haannibal777 It would help, but for the same reason I kept out Commune, you really don't need the extra help.

[@bread1958]

THE BEES, NOT THE BEES

[@bread1958]

Good thing anger of the gods exists, KILL THE BEES KILL THE BEES

[@TheManaSource]

Dragon Crowe BBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[@bread1958]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@latorquemada]

There hornets

[@bread1958]

latorquemada shudup! (no offense your just ruining it)

[@tuongthuyvohoang6099]

I won the gameday with this deck variant, I take Elvish Mystic out for Treasure Cruise as draw 3 for a single U is good xD

[@naoku126]

funny idea I had for this deck last night. take out 4 of the monsters your choice which ones. and replace em with ulamog, the ceaseless hunger . you mill it bring it back swing they exile 20

[@doomsdale320]

could you do a video on mono blue devotion or maybe ideas for reworkings of the old strategies. I've been working on mono blue, and so far its going pretty well. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-blue-devotion-post-rotation-2nd-at-gameday/

[@latorquemada]

What are white lands doing in a green black blue deck

[@yyeahsure]

Because wedge is high af

[@Guster7890]

Why do you put a Windswept Heath in here, instead of just a forest?

[@TheManaSource]

Gus Cosinuke Helps to thin your deck some more. Gives you another card to delve away.

[@THEONLYGORE]

Diggin this deck !!!! Hopefully i get a good box from MTGEpic (which i will do an opening video, my first one) :D

[@thatguythatplaysbass]

Watching older manasource videos to remember wedges hair. rip 1 like = 1 prayer.

[@Lamcasterr]

This reminds me that endless obedience is in standard now if you excuse me i have to brew a variant with that, storm-tide Leviathan, and the archon in it.

[@TheKingMgee]

I'm no player of Standard or even at FNM, but the Sultai got me interested. Mainly for the reason the Sultai are so..out there...compared to the other Clans. Jeskai tempo is alright, but Abzan, Temur and Mardu all feel a little bland. Sultai are just mental. C'mon, deck yourself to play treasure cruise for 1 blue? All aboard the Sultai hype train!

[@MrJustcallmeAlex]

i like a couple of nighthowler in this deck rather than the weaver. you lose a little mill but nighthowler is going to get real big, real fast.

[@jami2378]

sidisiwhip is fun

[@JonathanHecht]

do a R\G monsters

[@AMPtheWALDO]

Hmmmmmmm, you've covered Jeskai, Abzan, Mardu, now Sidisi, but not Temur yet? Saving the best for last I presume?

[@Rapchael1]

so... i think that 4 Annul sideboard might be a good idea now

[@Nicol80145]

Nyx weaver is awesome

[@colin5508]

Nothing still beats my turn three hornet queen mono green devotion deck

[@stylas7366]

You got a recipie for that? Seriously I've been trying to find a good monogreen since m15 came out!

[@colin5508]

Its really just turn 1 forest, turn 2 nykthos into elvish plus satyr

[@colin5508]

turn 1 forest elvish *

[@colin5508]

Turn 3 you have six mana and can play some more mana ramp, Or cards that help you out in general such as poluk. Turn 4 = win with Big ass cards. One other thing, in my makeshift green deck before I had nykthos, I used Kalonian twingroves and various big creatures

[@kolymorph]

No Urborg? :(

[@TheTbeck999]

Woooo

[@BloodSoakedGoat]

I've been trying to run sultai since the prerelease but I never found a build I liked. Reanimation and delve decks were alright but always felt too fragile and shaky. I really like this build, I've been running this- tappedout.net/mtg-decks/14-09-14-rawr/ and it's done alright, life gain is really good in this meta and I see this doing well. 300 is probably out of my price range but maybe down the line I'll consider it, great job on this. I suppose the deck being $300 is also sort of a good thing since most people aren't gonna drop 300 on sultai, especially when they could go jeskai tempo for around the same price which is more popular/safer. I really don't see anyone expecting this and I don't think other sultai decks will be able to handle lifelink or a reanimated hornet queen, if you even go against one.

[@Zenwaveaudio]

Could grey merchant have a place here?

[@Zenwaveaudio]

Also rakshasa + murderous cut + dig, 10 counters for 3 mana yes please

[@maclowe1254]

i like the deck but it seems a little shaky and unfocused. though looks like it is really fun to play

[@TheManaSource]

Mac Lowe Trust me, it comes together...really well.

[@maclowe1254]

ok awesome by the way love so many deck techs this week

[@Max.Volume]

I think I would absolutely love this deck if it was a couple hundred euros cheaper :P

[@TheManaSource]

Dutchbag xD

[@88Hyo]

So...anger of gods and magma spray take quite a bite from this deck e-e Of course,with the meta lacking too many control decks the'res not gonna be a lot of late game anger of gods,but still,that fucks up the hornet queen.

[@SpartanDeluxe]

Honestly don't like the Elvish Mystics here...you really need no additional ramp for this deck imo. At the beginning I played 3, cut it later to 2 - now I removed all of the them. Works much better, since "EM" is useless later on.

[@MeteorManTGP]

I love the idea of sultai but i already dropped $40 on starting a mardu mid range deck (which is a lot for me) before i found out how fun sultai can be. Curse my impulsiveness

[@TheManaSource]

CakesTasty Both decks are great!

[@Angreesloth]

Yea i dropped some cash on temur before realizing I need a lot more for it, and now I really wanna play this deck.

[@Lucenstall]

WEDGE PLEASE DO A TEMUR AGGRO DECK TECH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[@Lucenstall]

OR ANY TEMUR DECK!!!!!!!

[@kingring57]

Really hate this deck as a nooby, I fought the Abzan Midrange deck twice, in the three rounds I played! The other was a black devotion deck which I don't mind as much.

[@TisUnfortunate]

Can u so temur

[@Cerialeater01]

no durdle turtle? it doesn't exile

[@bashnichcorner]

COUGH COUGH stain the mind haha my favorite sideboard card :p

[@bashnichcorner]

and the tomb haha exile graveyards for days