Summit1g Reacts: This New Game Might Be The Tarkov Killer

Summit reacts to jackfrags talk about the new game Arena Breakout & how it could compete with Escape from Tarkov!
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[@rustyc]

The devs sent us all in the mobile version yesterday a gift bundle called "You are heard". They've been digging at Tarkov hard.

[@LionJReacts]

Your lyingggggg😂😂 that’s crazy

[@shadrachlane5555]

That's crazy lmao

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

Good. Let the Free Market go BBRRRRRRRRRR

[@ED-ww6vz]

@LionJReacts Its real lol 🤣🤣🤣 I got it too and it was actually pretty generous.

[@rustyc]

@@ED-ww6vz I only got a G Phone

[@Lucas93253]

Keeps the game fresh and really love this game,whether it's on mobile or on PC

[@godthor-gr9ti]

The TV station and arsenal in Arena Breakout mobile are adding a whole new layer of depth to the game

[@Vis_Fx]

"Tarkov Killer" bro we all witnessed a suicide already.

[@pjhill5452]

🤣🤣

[@AtmostImportance]

Idk what the hell BSG was thinking selling the new edition for 250$ it's like they delibrately wants people to think they're pay to win game and somehow... They thought that would be a great move so people would be very excited to play the game.

[@dirtyd2099]

​@@AtmostImportance to go even further with your comment, they thought people would be that happy to pay $250 for a Beta game thats not finished.

[@NekoSylvee]

Bruh people on the kill topic are delusional BSG is already doing that the stand been doing it for years 😂😂

[@LarsJ1977]

"PVP, no cheating" Yeah I'll believe that when I see it.

[@MAJOR_AB]

In the mobile version they do alot to track sus gameplay.. we get weekly statistics telling us how many cheaters been banned

[@THCrimson]

​cheaters on PC are unavoidable @MAJOR_AB

[@Magpy93]

its literally impossible to have no cheaters on a PC fps game

[@aintlessthan30shotsjaja57]

They have a fuck load of money, I imagine they could perform better than someone like BSG, not to mention it's ran on Steam

[@tylerm5862]

There will always be cheaters. You can have fewer cheaters, but it's just the nature of running off code that can always be cracked.

[@Cramblit]

Summit saying "that was the worst aim I ever seen" We haven't forgot about Hunt Showdown yet.

[@tonyblairs1888]

Yup way more harder on hunt the gun was like bolt action need one shot one dead😂😂😂

[@TheClanFollows]

Free to play and Tencent tells me this game is gonna be unplayable in a year

[@Alex-vz2jz]

I've Played COD Online that games was a blast. I've played Arena Breakout and that also is an amazing game. I have faith in the team on making the PC version an amazing experience. I love AB but the mobile tryhards just doesn't make a fun experience. It's fun when they don't join the lobbies 😂 I'm not a hardcore mobile gamer, I only play when I want to kill time.

[@jakelowry1714]

?? valorant is owned by tencent and has the best anti cheat on the market

[@synical021]

@@jakelowry1714yea in return u install a rootkit that has access to all of your information or control your pc in general. Its a shitty trade. As they most likely milk your information to sell on the side ontop of selling you pricy virtual skins

[@synical021]

@@jakelowry1714but no doubt its a good “anti-cheat” it does its job

[@willbyrn5920]

@@jakelowry1714no it does not valorants anti cheat is just spyware that DOESNT EVEN STOP cheats. It scans every file on your PC but you can still cheat on valorant very easily.

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

Tarkov is the Tarkov killer it seems

[@bla0005551]

i dont mind names of friendlies at close proximity aram has it and it makes sense at 5-10m one should be able to easily recognize friend and foe

[@mr_maxter]

I think for the foliage in Gray Zone Warfare it suits the map and setting of taking place in a island in Asia in the pacific. It’s supposed to be more tropical and jungle environment which would make sense to have thicker and a more dense atmosphere while Tarkov and this free to play game are taking place in a European setting.

[@shadrachlane5555]

Me watching a streamer stream watching a streamer talk about the game i want to know about its crazy....

[@grubby55]

The Future is now old man

[@stfucookieman957]

Bro mentioned warz and I shed a tear

[@spesiell3902]

Dude even remembers campos city

[@leeroy4206]

its the soldier of fortune mention that did it for me absolute banger

[@seiji_senpai]

its easier and faster to mockup realistic looking games now compared to games with strong art direction

[@braxtonday7917]

"The buttstock name is FAP" had me dying lmao

[@spunky718]

jackfrags would say runescape is the next tarkov killer if you paid him enough

[@nonamenoname5513]

actually any game that will have looter shooter with better engine and working better will be tarkov killer so it can be true if theey will make it that way.

[@bandaralmohsen3339]

@@nonamenoname5513 but even better just make tarkov without bsg copy fucking everything! that will for sure kill or split tarkov community

[@jaydynbristol8920]

@@bandaralmohsen3339sir that is called plagiarism. Not a good idea

[@nonamenoname5513]

@@bandaralmohsen3339 i think arena or gzw will take out more then half of tarkov community for a little bit anyways i dont really care if tarkov gonna die or not me personally just wanna play looter shooter wiithout bsg

[@drgreenthumnb]

@@nonamenoname5513 idk, gzw is a snooze fest of walking so far. i think most people wont play it. only DayZ fans or Squad players

[@Hau5mau5]

I had no idea sumsum played WarZ back in the day. Thats awesome af

[@jimjogger306]

'Tarkov does a good job of not being able to hide you're player 100%' You smokin crack bro

[@Choco-Dutcho]

lol, I have been playing this game on mobile, only has been until they announced the pc version, didn't expect to see him react to him.

[@shamrokz95]

man in the chat said it looks too similar to tark.. thats literally the point.. make the game that BSG couldnt!

[@dvls2945]

Camping and strong hiding spots is what makes the game actual mil-sim, ofc it has to be balanced somehow like with super high range of audio like in Tarkov but generally im a huge fan of thick forests as that makes the gameplay realistic.

[@hung8969]

My all time fav mobile game. So good I stopped playing tarkov while ago before all this. I

[@bernhard8540]

They should have a teammate marker but if your gonna be a tactical simulator then give us an item like a strobe or something to put on our body that marks up for teammates and if we wear it then our teammates can see if but if our teammates dont wear one we cant see them that gives teams a way to spend money for the team...

[@TheeFFrisky]

its nice to see a mobile game that is funding the pc version. hopefully they can afford to put real effort into preventing cheating and keep the game alive for a long time.

[@aiyumi5]

I think cheaters will be better maintained compared to tarkov. Cheat programs aren’t perfect but Tarkov made it clear why it’s hard for them to avoid cheaters which we know is an excuse. That’s why cheaters get in Tarkov easily. But arena will have be better at containing cheaters more

[@IVEdge]

On Steam? I'm in.

[@bernhard8540]

I so miss when developers actually worked hard against cheating and didnt wsit and do ban waves but instead banned any cheating as soon as possible and put out a fix right away 😞 the ban wave idea was a good idea but failed massively.. i almost wish they found a way to use the new AI systems to help fight cheating.. it could be super useful at running on every server and constantly searching for weird player actions and sending it to a real person to check and ban if needed

[@thiccbeetboi]

Congrats to all my brothers who have Escaped Tarkov. Can't wait for this game.

[@anthonyvera4426]

Arena breakout on the phone is amazing I’ve been playing it since launch seeing it come to PC is gonna be huge I think everyone’s gonna really like it more Arcady type of looter shooter nothing like tarkov but it’s worth a shot 100%

[@aiyumi5]

It’s really going to replace tarkov being free and not P2W all tarkov players will flock to this game. Especially they’ll be able to handle cheaters better than tarkov too. Can’t wait. I played mobile so I’m happy to finally play pc as well.

[@XuroX.]

It is P2W now, during beta it wasn't but after that you can literally buy in game money with real money. Absolutely P2W to get the best gear/guns and whatnot

[@aiyumi5]

@@XuroX. that’s not P2W that’s just people who have no skills dying so much they want to buy items. It’s optional. If u can’t survive it’s an option to get gear but it doesn’t gonna give you an advantage. If ur dying so much u had to pay to play another raid then that’s on u. It ain’t gonna help u win at all. Cuz you’ll just waste money to lose gear. It doesn’t help player from dying or taking advantage of any situation. so how is that P2W if your not guaranteed to win anything? Also AB has always had “buy in game money”. Of course beta didn’t have it, it’s beta.

[@Sgt_Teddy_Bear]

Daaaaamn Arena Breakout on PC is crazy. I play the mobile version shits good.

[@JG-te7hk]

Let's hope the hacker situation is better in this game. Looks fun. Would certainly give it a try!

[@Crookgotjokes]

The fact that its been eight year and bsg still hasnt made it to where optics get damaged when shot but yet dayz had it in their early broken version.

[@dylansmith6011]

Do you know the odds of optics getting shot ... it's like .001% dumbest comment ever, now if you were to say wear and tear sure !

[@Throwdownsoldier]

Damn 100 gbs? That’s a huge game

[@aarongarcia2911]

Ghost of Tabor is waiting for Summit

[@KingsStream]

Love Tabor but does get old FAST

[@ChromePyramid]

"looks too similar to Tarkov" 99% of the reason is the gun/armor models which are based on real life counterparts this is the exact same argument people got into with Palworld there's only so many ways to design a sheep/wolf/dinosaur except with guns and armor it's the exact same every time

[@bobbyhillthe3rd]

Season 1 player here. Best game around

[@marcius778]

every game want to be tarkov,but no one will ever be,as good as tarkov

[@aiyumi5]

That’s like everyone wants to be battle Royale it’s just games we wanna enjoy. Only difference is Arena is free and not P2W which makes it easily available for everyone without having to pay or be behind paywall.

[@darknostic5323]

I think it's gonna be a toggle for nameplates so you can toggle on / off

[@P07H34D]

funny a lot of games do that where they hide the UI in all of the promotional videos but then you actually play and it's all over the place

[@LarsJ1977]

Hutch is gonna be so happy :D

[@zhentekk]

Reminds me of a R6/Tarkov

[@Jake_158]

This game will be a great alternative to Tarkov and look forward to it. But In my opinion I still believe there will not be a game for me that gives you the heart pounding feeling and rush Tarkov does especially after a good fight. But I hope I’m wrong and more games take what BSG has done for this genre and builds on it.

[@r3tri3ution_z3nith_point_z6]

Competition breeds innovation. Remember that when you start rooting for only one team. It wont be long before the grift stats to affect your wallet.

[@ttvsupergod6]

will it be free to play

[@d.s.3268]

Tarkov went and took a bath with a toaster. It doesn’t need another game to kill it 😂

[@anthonylarios102274]

Comming from someone who can’t afford a pc and plays this game at work ,it’s decent has its ups and downs but genuinely surprised with these graphics cause it’s not a port ,kinda feels like a good way to get into a tarkov styled games like arena breakout made me more excited to play tarkov !

[@dvls2945]

it does, tarkov devs are sick with lack of competition, hopefully these games will change it im really tired of tarkov's ridiculously amateur way of game development like the amount of bugs, horrible AI, performance issues, cheaters or never ending broken audio...this game is in such a poor amateur state it has to stop.

[@malon3412]

I’m surprised summit didn’t get a beta key

[@DardyGG]

8th of May closed beta.

[@anthonyvera4426]

Teammates do have names so you don’t team kill

[@WoobyDoo420]

they have alot alot ALOT of work left to make this close to a good good pc shooter !

[@MrKingglenn]

This looks like a decent game for PVP. It looks to be lacking the looting of random items for personal gain. This for me is the main draw of Tarkov and makes the adrenaline for survival more powerful. This looks like less of a looter and more of a shooter even though it has looting involved. It just feels objective based where everyone is going to a single spot and fighting over the loot box. Capture the flag type play, where winner gets the loot rather than finding good loot while exploring and trying to get out without dying.

[@MrColoskyj]

The mobile version is very loot focused, I don't see why this one wouldn't be

[@wwerty234]

Wait did he say he was going to play overwatch!?!

[@874K322]

It also has PVE

[@wildingice2565]

I personally like the names over the teamates heads this may be the only super realistic shooter i ever play if the cheater is rare and not like tarkov

[@deathnz1]

Thats content complete? thats a big statement since the mobile game only has a few maps. If its more then a port could be worth playing. Hopefully the maps aren't the same as mobile because they are really small. Also mobile has a lot of money involved like subscription/battlepasses etc which is painful.

[@SyKeusX]

just got the beta key lessgooooo

[@permanent8387]

as long as the gameplay loop is good, id say nothing else matters.. tarkov has been the only game that has been able to make it good (not sure about hunt showdown) i think jackfrags saying "ultra realistic military simulation" is just straight corpo scam talk :D i think the closest we've got is arma

[@rosefromgrave8358]

when those 2 games come out tarkov will slowly meet their downfall

[@thenewimahich]

the sad thing is tarkov is more realistic and not arcade like gameplay while all these other games "tarkov killers" are arcade looking games which imo doesn't look really good so the gameplay and loot and items and customization better be good or else

[@giggy1699]

@@thenewimahich these games look like mobile games

[@asherdempster4992]

@@giggy1699 visualy? Cause no they dont look bad visual wise at all. They look like a really pretty game running on a modern engine. While tarkov looks like shit

[@ExorFS]

@@asherdempster4992 idk what ur seeing bud but arena breakout looks like cod mobile bro

[@asherdempster4992]

@@ExorFS yeah the mobile game looks like a mobile game but the screenshots from the pc game look fantastic. Watch the video and look at it lol

[@kino6881]

Seems like this game is like Tarkov and COD had a baby.

[@user-lm2lt9uo5g]

They remade the entire game for pc from the ground up... It was a mobile but the pc port is just as good as tarkov...and more casual friendly... love summit..stay safe... You can have names or not is up to you... They give you the option to it...

[@Alex-vz2jz]

If you played Mobile you'd know it's anything but casual. Go in playing casually you'll lose all your gear. So the PC version isn't going to be casual. But I do agree that it will be more friendly than EFT

[@MaggotAddict21]

"As good as Tarkov" is pretty subjective. Tarkov is more realistic and deep and I already know I'll prefer that over a game with Bruce Lee character skins and nunchuks

[@user-lm2lt9uo5g]

@@Alex-vz2jz I'm on 720 hours on AB... Another 1200 on Tarkov I know how it goes......and yes it's more casual friendly as you have more modes to play with less sweats as they go to ranked raids... The whole game is made to be fun not to destroy your personal life like Tarkov...

[@user-lm2lt9uo5g]

@@MaggotAddict21 yeah meanwhile you hav to deal with the cheaters and bsg making y'all look dumb😂

[@MaggotAddict21]

@@user-lm2lt9uo5g Arena Breakout Infinite is going to have cheaters too. What's your point?

nice game , i will play for sure

[@spaceninja5709]

a Tencent game watch out for the spyware ^^

[@Tom-ol5zz]

its either that or scumbags asking money to fund Putin in his war. Im not sure whats worst

[@santiagodelgado5794]

I play Arena Breakout and I can attest the game is amazing on mobile. I can only imagine that pc version will be even better.

[@knp5074]

i hope shroud review it😅

[@AI.Musicx91]

Gray Zone Warfare?

[@vudurngr]

Nah the grenade indicator is a no go imo

[@tochka4881]

There's also sounds indicator for footsteps and gunshots, at least on mobile

[@fubarexress6359]

Their making BOLD CLAIMS. Here are some things THEY HAVE TO NAIL, or it won't work. 1. ACTUAL VIABLE ANTI CHEAT, they make big claims, but big claims require BIG ACTIONS. 2. Little to no P2W, The mobile game while insanely fun, has major P2W elements (you can 100% shit on people spending no $$ BUT STILL its there) 3. Audio 5. Performance 6. Regular content updates 7. Rapid bug fixes 8. Community feed back actually listened to

[@monkaSisLife]

Like i said, they are Owned by Tencent, and Riot is too. Very High Possibility for Vanguard to be in this game.

[@drunken2095]

I cant wait!

[@HaveAHeartAnimalSanctuary]

It's not illegal to be homeless, YET!

[@Fuwa_Fuu]

Just wait till Summit discovers Port. Fcking hate that map full of extraction campers.

[@barefootbreezy6983]

If this is made by Tencent theres a very good chance hackers and cheating will be at a minimal. Some of their sub studio games like LOL and Valorant have great anti cheat systems and if you do come across one they get banned rather quick.

[@holysword876]

on a free to play game, I am very scared of cheaters for sure.

[@cArBoNOzone]

Idk what it is but something about it still looks super mobile game-y to me. Hope they can fix this.

[@pehztv]

dam knotty lost him home and summit took him in hes such a good guy

[@mckinleyfisher-lynd3896]

I play this on my phone and I guess I'd call it "hardcore" but definitely more casual than Tarkov. I think a lot of casual Tarkov players may enjoy this but the core tarkov community might like the more hardcore aspects of that game more.

[@smokeonthescope]

Tarkov isn’t going to die we all know it

[@JasperJHNS]

Chatter: "Looks a bit too similiair to tarkov" I think that is a good thing... no?

[@RTFMhvac]

So FYI these are all the same maps that are on the mobile version, just much better graphics

[@mikeb4934]

Turns out, Nikita was the Tarkov killer all along!

[@mauroojeda196]

Hope this competition to EFT makes Nikita more humble. Great game but it's looks too much arcade tho

[@aiyumi5]

I watched verybadscav and people keep saying it’s P2W. Which mobile has been out for awhile and it’s not P2W. Makes you think how Tarkov has left an impression on Tarkov players.

[@imSkrap]

“New game” meanwhile it’s been out on Mobile for a long time and it’s just being ported to PC and it’s still got very very very obvious mobile aspects

[@XuroX.]

I used to play AB on mobile during Beta, which it was really good for a mobile game. I stopped playing once they took out the blood splatters from shooting people and also being able to buy ingame money with real money..... P2W... of you are no good at the game just throw a little real money at it and have whatever guns/gear you want....

[@searchking91]

On phone the names of teamates appear, the bushes make hella noise even if you move slightly, its the best looter shooter iv ever played and i main the game, also i own tarkov eod. The cheaters are few and far between, the worst thing about the game is the player indicators, you can see people walking and shooting, albeit you can hear them before you can see their indicators so the balance is not a killbuzz for me.

[@p.1206]

This game charges monthly for secure container. Tarkov is still the better deal lmao.

[@JBReaperZ123]

no we need the nameplates i hate that tarkov never had them

[@wabv2045]

This game isn’t going be as hardcore as tarkov it’s going have a map names above team mates head and probably won’t have friendly fire only with grenades. It’s going be a more casual version of tarkov. I’ve played like 1.2k hours of the mobile version since release it’s a fun game I must admit I’m also a pc main. An have played tarkov but i rather play this then tarkov. Their cheat system is actually good of course you can’t stop cheaters but they ban them. Once a player is reported they get spectated. An if suspicious activity is shown the player gets device banned. I got high hopes hope they don’t let me down.

[@rmxcq]

"tarkov killer" reminds me all "wow killers" that came out and eventually died

[@fragenstien1421]

cheaters hate campers cause its hard to make it make sense when they track them down with no audio or visual ques

[@hanyolo2041]

factual.

[@The7WG]

I never thought I would see the day my favorite streamer would cross paths with my favorite game.

[@yesimnew8775]

is it 250 if not its allready a W

[@baemlee2k]

Tarkov is the only tarkov killer and it got tarkoved pretty good by themselves. I hope i will get beta access.

[@xmapa4677]

"No cheating" Doesn't count when you have no player base.

[@FriendlyBandit]

Just came here to upvote the "Tarkov is the Tarkov killer" comment but couldn't find it so I'll say it... Tarkov is the Tarkov Killer! Arena does look good though, hahaha.

[@MRdeLaat]

no hard measure anti cheat ? = im not investing my time in it we will see

[@KepsStore]

"looks too similar to tarkov" alright guys pack it up, tarkov invented realism

[@Bloodworia]

Especially because they are 10cent owned i hope it won't have kernel level anti cheat. But i fear it will. I skip those games, esepcially when it is a Chinese held company.

[@user-mp3eh1vb9w]

Why do you skip kernel level anti cheat?

[@Bloodworia]

@@user-mp3eh1vb9w Because it is the deepest permission you can give to anybody for your PC. I don't want anybody to have these rights, especially not somebody linke ot China. This is also the reason why i have not bought Helldivers 2 even though i would love to play the game.

[@user-mp3eh1vb9w]

@@Bloodworia you’re being a scaredy cat mate. What’d you have to hide, huh? Even though kernel anti-cheat doesn’t prevent cheating 100%, it is still effective and deters most cheaters out there. Look at EFT, shit is riddled with cheaters. Not all kernel anti-cheat are the same though, mostly impressed with vanguard atm.

[@Bloodworia]

@@user-mp3eh1vb9w "What do you have to hide?" is literally the smoothest brain statement when you are talking about privacy concerns

[@notsaitoox8240]

@@Bloodworia Grow a pair brother. Literally restricting yourself because "ChInA oNw ThIs", so fucking racists it's beyond a joke.

[@HandicappedMind]

So a mobile game to pc...... so it will be MEGA monetized. Side note...... Warz mention... Man Only us OG fans will remember that shit. Good times!

[@TennessseTimmy]

haha, I love the gamer analysis... Trees, bushes, grass - These are the real things gamers care about, not some god ray or tesselation effects

[@Respawnz]

Hopefully it's dope. Definitely looking to bail on EFT now... Grayzone is gonna flop 1000%

[@PigPissBeUponThem]

They also said Tik tok would kill insta and twitter. Now look 😂

[@justsnowbg1977]

the mobile version has serious verson that need to be fixed i hope they dont migrate to the pc version

[@gizmoz]

jakefrags

[@Ledbottom86]

Free 2 play. No cheaters. Yeah I dont know about that one

[@tazz4219]

Only game that kills Tarkov is tarkov itself