Mario: The Infamous History of Level 5-2

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Summoning Salt

Summoning Salt

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@SummoningSalt
@SummoningSalt Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check out their channels: Kosmic: www.twitch.tv/kosmic Niftski: www.twitch.tv/niftski Bismuth: www.youtube.com/@Bismuth9/featured Andrewg: www.twitch.tv/andrewg darbian: www.twitch.tv/darbian Eden_GT: www.youtube.com/@Eden_GT/featured GTAce99: www.twitch.tv/gtace99
@springf
@springf Жыл бұрын
First reply
@Nathaniel114
@Nathaniel114 Жыл бұрын
Home - We’re Finally Landing
@Arctic_Omega
@Arctic_Omega Жыл бұрын
ok
@thisismychannel4174
@thisismychannel4174 Жыл бұрын
@@supersonicgaren No thanks! ❤
@Tatsh2DX
@Tatsh2DX Жыл бұрын
This trick should've been called "Devil's skill", not spell. It's called 悪魔の技 in Japanese.
@RandomGameCritic
@RandomGameCritic Жыл бұрын
14:33 Imagine spending tens of thousands of hours practicing every movement and mastering every skip to become one of the greatest Super Mario Bros players of all time only for some random dude on Discord to say "Bro, why are you using the slower method?"
@infinitekeys1603
@infinitekeys1603 Жыл бұрын
😂💀
@shattersucks6270
@shattersucks6270 11 ай бұрын
A story as old as the internet
@zubirhusein
@zubirhusein 11 ай бұрын
especially some shit that was discoverd in 2004
@MasterAnimit
@MasterAnimit 11 ай бұрын
Library of Alexandria strat
@darkslope_
@darkslope_ 10 ай бұрын
@RandomGameCritic everything wrong with Helluva boss season 2 episode 7 when?
@infizer0
@infizer0 Жыл бұрын
Someone called "Eden" telling everyone about a trick called "Devil's Spell" is some crazy biblical level shit.
@whatamidoinganymorebro
@whatamidoinganymorebro 4 ай бұрын
true
@skywatcher458
@skywatcher458 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 the spy of the garden of Eden Satan Himself
@soulslicr5743
@soulslicr5743 4 ай бұрын
@@skywatcher458 Thank you Satan for the time save ♥♥
@brennanmarsh1572
@brennanmarsh1572 2 ай бұрын
So here there's a two frame time save where you give Mephistopheles your Eternal Soul.
@soulslicr5743
@soulslicr5743 2 ай бұрын
@@brennanmarsh1572 nah if you press A and B at the same time with frame perfect inputs, you can exploit a glitch where the game thinks he takes your soul but in actuality you get to keep it.
@Flight368
@Flight368 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the two fastest players in the world hanging out when they suddenly hear “I can’t understand why are you so slow”
@capttelush539
@capttelush539 4 ай бұрын
Arguably the three fastest
@BRKsEDU
@BRKsEDU Жыл бұрын
Between this and the recent Wave Race 64 discoveries I wonder how many records and techniques that we never realized were / are being used abroad without us knowing.
@guilhermemallmann2251
@guilhermemallmann2251 Жыл бұрын
BRKsEDU here, nice!
@davifelizardo4187
@davifelizardo4187 Жыл бұрын
What are you doing here? 😂
@zap_.
@zap_. Жыл бұрын
caraio é o edu
@gold26214
@gold26214 Жыл бұрын
Eduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@muriilouwu
@muriilouwu Жыл бұрын
Oii edu
@Mr_Greeny
@Mr_Greeny Жыл бұрын
23:30 Using the channel’s unofficial theme for a comedic bit is brilliant, you can tell he had so much fun making this one.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
Fiddingly insteado fa record screech it's simply 'the audio buffer constant looping.' Same as what happens when you bump the NES and knock the cart loose.
@JoBot__
@JoBot__ Жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 That's only partially correct. What actually happened is for each N samples of audio, repeat that group a certain amount of times. It's basically an easy way to slow audio down without changing the pitch, but it causes the sound to take on a signature metallic aspect. The NES also did not have an audio buffer. When the cart gets knocked loose, the sound synthesizer just continues whatever notes it was already playing, which is why it doesn't take on a specific tone. GBA and Wii crashes do what you described.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
HUH@@JoBot__ Today I learned. Thank you.
@Zephyr77
@Zephyr77 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe SS took 48,000 attempts at the framerule explanation just to save his viewers some time. That's why he's the goat
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine 10 ай бұрын
Meta joke
@zyzyx4157
@zyzyx4157 9 ай бұрын
@nikodemi.8046Gd? Geometry dash?
@TheMisterDarknight
@TheMisterDarknight 9 ай бұрын
SS?
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine 9 ай бұрын
@@TheMisterDarknight Summoning Salt
@TheMisterDarknight
@TheMisterDarknight 9 ай бұрын
@@EugeneOneguine that was a nazi Germany joke
@binkusunderscore
@binkusunderscore Жыл бұрын
Summoning Salt the type of guy to make 1 framerule of timesave seem like the culmination of everything humans have achieved throughout our millions of years of history
@ricktheweeb5382
@ricktheweeb5382 Жыл бұрын
and you think that isn't the case
@Edgar193
@Edgar193 Жыл бұрын
Dude did you even see how insane that is to hit? The practice and patience, mental resilience to literally imitate a machine at whatever frames per second SMB2 runs at? I'm so glad to be able to share this planet with such absolute beasts as niftski and all the other giants he stood on to get to where he is (Andrew G, Darbian, kosmic). NOTHING BUT MAD FUCKING RESPECT
@TheBfutgreg
@TheBfutgreg Жыл бұрын
@@ricktheweeb5382 Username checks out....bro Cold Fusion is still a pipedream after all the LHC experiments
@TheBfutgreg
@TheBfutgreg Жыл бұрын
@@Edgar193 How impressive it is isn't the same as height of accomplishment... if joking sorry and if not pick up a history book
@dubla321
@dubla321 Жыл бұрын
Millions? More like 6000
@Hyper-M
@Hyper-M Жыл бұрын
“Sometimes magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect.” - Raymond Teller
@grahamwalker2168
@grahamwalker2168 Жыл бұрын
This is just speedrunning defined. The recent Hades full heat run they said has a 0.0069% chance of completion so is impossible. When I saw that I just thought given enough people and enough time it will get done. A week later it was haha
@conrad6226
@conrad6226 Жыл бұрын
What a quote.
@ConanVictor
@ConanVictor Жыл бұрын
also autism
@conrad6226
@conrad6226 Жыл бұрын
Lmao@@ConanVictor
@zoomalfunction
@zoomalfunction Жыл бұрын
It's how the Allies cracked the Enigma code in WW2. The Germans knew it was breakable in theory. They just reasoned that the sheer time and effort it'd take would make it implausible anyone would.
@calixa
@calixa 10 ай бұрын
as a 43 year old man who grew up playing Mario Bros at birthday parties from 1986, this is so goddamn amazing. I mean dont get me wrong, I still have ALL my NES and SNES games, I'm a gamer and was doing speed runs before there were speed runs, it was just my run and gun style back then. But what this has evolved into just warms my heart and amazes the hell out of me. the analyzing of pixels, subpixels and Devil's Spell and the like is just INCREDIBLE. Keep pushing the limits and thanks for this amazing video and deep dive into this history. makes me want to break out All-Stars on SNES and get after the Lost Levels.
@Bismuth9
@Bismuth9 Жыл бұрын
10:00 Speedrun explained speedrun, let's go! "The game only checks for completion every 21 frames" rip, run is DQed
@LeoStaley
@LeoStaley Жыл бұрын
How did nobody see this comment?
@purplekorby5021
@purplekorby5021 Жыл бұрын
yoooo
@ru40342
@ru40342 Жыл бұрын
Where are the upvotes for the best speedrun video maker?
@Ocsttiac
@Ocsttiac Жыл бұрын
This needs to be pinned, lol
@LonkinPork
@LonkinPork Жыл бұрын
replying to try to bump this comment in the Algorithm™
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions Жыл бұрын
imagine the absolute savage mad lad who just up and asks the worlds top mario speedrunners "y u going so slow"
@kiyanmalki
@kiyanmalki 9 ай бұрын
bro said MOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@JBradlington299
@JBradlington299 Жыл бұрын
Eden with the Chad activity. Walks up to three speedrunners that have been training for years at least, then goes "why are you using such a slow method" and teaches them a method they missed for years.
@msophos
@msophos 2 ай бұрын
Imagine just how many thoughts were rushing through their minds when this random dude just teaches them an insane strategy that literally the entire speedrunning community had no clue existed that on average, saves an entire second. Probably a mix of distraught, elation, and just absolute, pure confusion.
@jacobtietjen2099
@jacobtietjen2099 Жыл бұрын
Hall of the Mountain King to the utter insanity of Andrew G’s skip discovery was so good, probably my favorite use of music by Salt yet
@Banannaise
@Banannaise Жыл бұрын
seven minutes in and I am in TEARS. Mountain King was so perfect for that. It’s so much better when you recognize what the music is and therefore what is about to happen to the music
@nubcake67
@nubcake67 Жыл бұрын
Comedic Editing Genius
@elipeyton9337
@elipeyton9337 Жыл бұрын
I originally praised the Jon Bois style of editing in the previous videos, but I have to say that it feels good to see an old school style Summoning Salt video. I feel like a mix of the two styles going forward would be great. The chart/graph style fits the longer form videos, but the old style fits the smaller bite-sized videos. I will say that I also appreciated the faster pace and different music choices in this video. It was neat to hear the familiar tunes from Home, but the classical bit especially really spiced things up. Overall, great job! These videos are always a treat.
@Chubby_Bub
@Chubby_Bub Жыл бұрын
The whole "Devil's Spell" thing is a good example of how a lot of things aren’t known to Western players because of the language barrier with Japanese communities. Now there is some more collaboration but in general, it still happens quite often.
@Leonidas2702
@Leonidas2702 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't seen it, watch WaifuRuns video called "Speedrunners Uncover 20 Year Old Secrets in Devil May Cry" (not sure if I can link the video without getting comment removed): it's another perfect example of this, where Japanese players found an optimal strategy for a boss years ago, that Western players didn't know about until they watched those old speedruns
@expendableindigo9639
@expendableindigo9639 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Nero family from Final Fantasy IX that was hidden in a Japanese guidebook for 13 years.
@joechristo2
@joechristo2 Жыл бұрын
FUN IS INFINITE
@BRG_Rain
@BRG_Rain Жыл бұрын
This happens with multiple games
@SumnerTube21
@SumnerTube21 Жыл бұрын
yep same happened with Super Mario Kart, they had known of Long Boosting and a few other strats from about 1 year after release (1993), the rest of us found out basically when Mario Kart Super Circuit was released for GBA and we started back tracking the strats from that to SMK. - Not exactly what happened but I was not involved in the community properly till 2017, story is well credible from Sami and KVD etc
@CowMaam
@CowMaam Жыл бұрын
Several years ago, we got the history of 4-2. Now, we get 5-2. This is truly an outstanding journey we’ve been on!
@ilect1690
@ilect1690 Жыл бұрын
Thar vidros out of date. Niftski just set the WR with the first ever tas tie to 8-4 and the final framerule was lightning 4-2
@eatingyoshi4403
@eatingyoshi4403 Жыл бұрын
@@ilect1690 Ofc its out of date, most of the videos on this channel are probably out of date, its just the nature of speedrunning
@Skyforger23
@Skyforger23 Жыл бұрын
every video which presents speedrunning can only be a snapshot of the current state of the art. @@ilect1690
@thejacket3891
@thejacket3891 Жыл бұрын
​@@eatingyoshi4403you are right. illeyezcobra is a good youtuberrr.,..,
@Wyattporter
@Wyattporter Жыл бұрын
I feel like the production really stepped up a level in this video. There was a lot more comedic edge. If this is a sign of the direction of the channel, I’m on board. Great work as always
@4QIcehole
@4QIcehole Жыл бұрын
Jon Bois has always been a big, obvious influence on Summoning Salt but I really do think this was the first time he (or anybody really) managed to *perfectly* replicate that intangible paradox of myth and humanity that Bois so effortlessly injects into his stuff. This story is ultimately just a silly little thing that some dudes did in a videogame but tracing every step and highlighting all of the human faces behind it and making it sound as important as the moon landing while never losing sight of the fact that this is still just some fun silly thing that fans of a game put a lot of work into really elevates it. In short, it's Pretty Good
@donnnut
@donnnut 11 ай бұрын
​@@4QIceholejon bois is great the search for the saddest punt had one of the best twists in a yt vid I've ever seen
@corvidconsumer
@corvidconsumer 11 ай бұрын
jon bois is the goat@@4QIcehole
@spartanretro
@spartanretro 4 ай бұрын
I was laughing my ass off when I saw AndrewG clipping into a pipe as “Hall of the Mountain King“ plays in the background
@lacanm1554
@lacanm1554 Жыл бұрын
Ten minutes in and salt clearly had a lot of fun with this one. Probably the funniest one hes made in a long time
@mindtrait0r879
@mindtrait0r879 Жыл бұрын
There was a very brief funny moment early in the vid when he showed the comments on Andrew's speedrun. One of them mentioned Salt would make a video on 5-2. I love it
@rm_steele
@rm_steele Жыл бұрын
​@@mindtrait0r879specifically said lost levels wr progression but yeah pretty much
@Heizenberg32
@Heizenberg32 Жыл бұрын
But...Jimmypoopins!
@miserirken
@miserirken Жыл бұрын
And then the bus came in.
@ryanwalker1593
@ryanwalker1593 Жыл бұрын
Niftski's excitement is why i love watching these videos. These guys work for years on these runs and yo see a guy nail it is just impressive. Good work Salt. You have yet to disappoint us with a video.
@Comment-sw5rz
@Comment-sw5rz Жыл бұрын
It is impressive but at the end of the day it's just sad.
@Intrinsety
@Intrinsety Жыл бұрын
@Comment-sw5rz You must be fun at parties
@ryanwalker1593
@ryanwalker1593 Жыл бұрын
@@Intrinsety 😂
@SpiritSoaring13
@SpiritSoaring13 Жыл бұрын
190 bpm, baby!!!! Mans is a monster and I'm here for it!
@manuroitman
@manuroitman Жыл бұрын
watching his hands is like looking at a robot playing the piano
@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky
@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky Жыл бұрын
5:56 lol, "How bout I do this instead?" *breaks conventional game physics*
@PPGIRL420
@PPGIRL420 Жыл бұрын
I love these level/map specific episodes. It's super interesting to find so much speedrunning strategy in one small section of a game, like with Choco Mountain.
@allenellisdewitt
@allenellisdewitt Жыл бұрын
18:12 "Discovery" feels like how Columbus "Discovered" America, the Japanese community knew about it the whole time lol
@nekomimicatears
@nekomimicatears Жыл бұрын
They discovered that the knowledge was already known, so not entirely wrong
@wesrihn
@wesrihn Жыл бұрын
If we put as much effort into figuring out nuclear fusion as speed runners put into lowering their time by a tenth of a second, we would probably have warp engines by now.
@BigBelgianPhilOnTiktok
@BigBelgianPhilOnTiktok Жыл бұрын
Darbian is just a legend of speedrunning honestly, love that he is such a recurring character on the channel!
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople Жыл бұрын
Mario: The Infamous History of Level 5-2
@KeilyShhh
@KeilyShhh 11 ай бұрын
You KNOW that you've found a good youtuber when they can make you feel exhilarated by a subject that you wouldn't normally be interested in. AWESOME JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ExoticChaotic
@ExoticChaotic Жыл бұрын
This video and other examples like the rainbow ride skip in MK64 really demonstrate how much can go undiscovered due to the amount of eyes on a game. I really wonder what cool and neat tricks in some other niche games are left undiscovered because they belong to such a small crowd. I’d love to see it.
@kaloyankaloyanov911
@kaloyankaloyanov911 Жыл бұрын
Niftski is literally unbelievable. I’m so glad that when I started watching SMB1 speedruns he just entered the scene with his first WR and since then I’ve witnessed greatness firsthand
@timf6626
@timf6626 Жыл бұрын
His runs don’t count for me since he is cheesing with keyboard but whatever
@beaub650
@beaub650 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…forget being greatness
@kaloyankaloyanov911
@kaloyankaloyanov911 Жыл бұрын
@@timf6626 Well show me another person who can “cheese” it with a keyboard like him and I’ll agree with you
@antagonista8122
@antagonista8122 Жыл бұрын
@@timf6626 xD he also took part in live races where he played on the original hardware using a controller, and he achieved very good results on the same level as when playing on the keyboard. some people's takes are... something.
@sarahspeedrun6419
@sarahspeedrun6419 Жыл бұрын
@@timf6626if it’s so easy on keyboard than go ahead and do it yourself
@KrissyBlues
@KrissyBlues Жыл бұрын
its rly funny to think how every optimization here was discovered between 2004-2008 and the rest of that time was just everyone catching up to that period and stringing it all together
@TheLawman23
@TheLawman23 Жыл бұрын
Salt was SUPER self-aware in this episode and I AM HERE FOR IT
@inthefade
@inthefade Жыл бұрын
The use of In the Hall of the Mountain King was pretty funny, to me.
@caesaria
@caesaria Жыл бұрын
you think he's not self-aware in other episodes?
@Skyforger23
@Skyforger23 Жыл бұрын
loved the little forshadowing part - it just took him 10+ years :D
@duzypokoj1151
@duzypokoj1151 Жыл бұрын
what do you le' mean?
@Name_cannot_be_blank
@Name_cannot_be_blank Жыл бұрын
@@caesaria no.
@jameslars7391
@jameslars7391 Жыл бұрын
Ok I love that Darbian's bus analogy is still the best way to explain the frame rule system.
@zhaowengong2651
@zhaowengong2651 Жыл бұрын
BUS METAPHOR MAN!
@jeakly7829
@jeakly7829 Жыл бұрын
I love how with the SMB speedrun innovations, the answers are usually right in front of their face. The TAS from '06 uses the same principle as Devil's Spell but still takes someone randomly telling them how it works 10 years later for them to try it. Great video!
@Eden_GT
@Eden_GT Жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@VetNovice
@VetNovice Жыл бұрын
From 420 Blazit's strats to Niftsky's pop off. I will admit... I cried a little. Thanks for summoning the salt in my eyes.
@ctnc6059
@ctnc6059 Жыл бұрын
26:40 ...and had to go back to setting world records. Poor guy. Such a hilarious way to put it. XD
@joehuerta4197
@joehuerta4197 Жыл бұрын
A whole episode on a single level!? This is about to be way to complicated for me🤣
@deleetiusproductions3497
@deleetiusproductions3497 Жыл бұрын
Eh, he's done it before.
@kaptainKrill
@kaptainKrill Жыл бұрын
Remember, though: his episode on 4-2 totally slaps. One of his best.
@Saturnth
@Saturnth Жыл бұрын
You say that while only watching the first minute of the video
@GurenKitsune
@GurenKitsune Жыл бұрын
He's an essay expert
@Saturnth
@Saturnth Жыл бұрын
46 likes in 4 minutes is crazy
@professoremu
@professoremu 10 ай бұрын
the excitement in the end of niftski’s run :,) it was a nice editing choice to let that clip speak for itself. great video as always SS !!
@jakesteampson7043
@jakesteampson7043 Жыл бұрын
4:24 The sudden change from the usual synthwave to Hall Of the Mountain King just feels surreal
@NicolasBeaulieuQc
@NicolasBeaulieuQc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s a little bummer for me 😅
@HarryPotter-uv8yp
@HarryPotter-uv8yp Жыл бұрын
Given “Hall of the Mountain King” evokes PEAK Gremlin energy, I wholeheartedly approve of its usage here where speedrunners cracked this game over their knee like a plywood board.
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine 10 ай бұрын
Not really for me, Grieg's music is used everywhere on the Internet, especially in memes.
@machinaeZER0
@machinaeZER0 Жыл бұрын
I really like this format! The longer full-game videos are great, but this more bite-sized deep dive was really excellent :) Hope you'll do more of these in the future, where it would make sense!
@Nightcaat
@Nightcaat Жыл бұрын
Why did you stop using Patricia Taxxon’s music? It’s been a little over 2 years now and it was some of my favorite
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 Жыл бұрын
15:59 makes me wonder how many other ground breaking strategies exist out there already discovered that we don't know about
@clever-username
@clever-username Жыл бұрын
6:00 made my jaw drop. excellent music choice to underscore it too.
@ViraRiva
@ViraRiva Жыл бұрын
bro i remember finding your channel when you had like 10k subscribers and your vids were 'episodes'. you take a while between uploads but its totally worth the wait. every video is such good quality and interesting, even for games i don't play. keep doing what you been doing good work
@Jay10Real
@Jay10Real Жыл бұрын
You always know the new summoning salt video will be a banger
@Saturnth
@Saturnth Жыл бұрын
You’re first!
@Jay10Real
@Jay10Real Жыл бұрын
@@Saturnth damn thats crazy
@elmalloc
@elmalloc Жыл бұрын
how did you get 25 likes within 1 minute damn!!!
@username5155
@username5155 Жыл бұрын
@@elmallocby being first
@FG-ww8rc
@FG-ww8rc Жыл бұрын
One of the only channels I have notifications turned on for
@maebarlow8572
@maebarlow8572 Жыл бұрын
i could listen to you explain framerules every hour of every day for years and not get bored of it
@The_Endless_Now
@The_Endless_Now Жыл бұрын
24:33 Excuse me 15 A presses per SECOND? Did I hear that right? Did I understand that right? How does one even muscle spasm hard enough to get that precise?
@admiralensin.
@admiralensin. Жыл бұрын
People can get more than that
@gamerzone0764
@gamerzone0764 21 күн бұрын
I'd heard 50 presses per second. Imagine my shock😂
@Harrery
@Harrery Жыл бұрын
How you can make an incredible video about a 30 second level in a game that 99% of people haven’t played and it still be amazing is incredible in itself, congrats.
@sleeper6548
@sleeper6548 11 ай бұрын
99% people haven't played? I guess I was a lucky one
@SmoothJK
@SmoothJK 11 ай бұрын
I definitely haven't haha. And watched the whole video, intrigued.
@samueldavis5895
@samueldavis5895 9 ай бұрын
@@sleeper6548I don’t know anyone who hasn’t played it.
@illford
@illford 9 ай бұрын
​@@samueldavis5895a lot of people haven't but 99 is too high. It's like a 40% for has played it. A lot of people know the game tho
@yukiko_5051
@yukiko_5051 9 ай бұрын
The state of zoomer, doesn't even know the origin of Mario
@chrisd3676
@chrisd3676 Жыл бұрын
The consistency from Summoning Salt recently is crazy, he's on world record pace!
@noahblevins9569
@noahblevins9569 Жыл бұрын
Then he can make a video about his world record video on world records. And I will watch it.
@annawallace3383
@annawallace3383 8 ай бұрын
Speed runs bring me so much joy because of the joy of the speedrunners when they finally get it. You know they worked so hard and for so long and the triumph in their voices is just pure and happy. Good shit.
@MicroMidas
@MicroMidas Жыл бұрын
6:09 He called it! 😅
@DeepestDarkestJungliestJungle
@DeepestDarkestJungliestJungle 6 ай бұрын
Technically, but it’s the history of 5-2
@cliftonchurch6039
@cliftonchurch6039 Жыл бұрын
A concept: TAS2MIDI, a tool that converts the button presses to MIDI drum sounds as an artistic aural understanding of what's happening during the run. You can compare the sounds of a true TAS against the world records over time to see the complexity in timing needed as progress was made.
@doggo7514
@doggo7514 Жыл бұрын
Make it a reality!
@theapollodump5781
@theapollodump5781 Жыл бұрын
Make this.
@theoppositeistrue
@theoppositeistrue Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome to hear. There is definitely overlap between performing rhythmically complex music and performing precise inputs in a game. Over time speedrunners develop an internal clock, and end up “feeling” the timing of inputs similar to how a musician would feel an odd time sig. I wonder if we’ll ever see people running games to a metronome.
@cliftonchurch6039
@cliftonchurch6039 Жыл бұрын
​@@theoppositeistrueObviously, having made this suggestion, I'm a little musically inclined. I'm come to believe that a human being tends to feel their natural rhythm in the range of 100-150, with energetic dance music feeling best in the 120-180 bpm range. If we want to translate that down to beats per second, we're looking at 2-3 beats per second. And musically, that would be for a quarter note, with music commonly breaking that down into two eighth notes, and at a more complex layer, four sixteenth notes. Only the most articulate of artistic endeavors would consider using a thirty second note or further, and only then for a deeper reason than a performance would ever present. So, that was a long winded way of saying that humans feel good processing things musically around 2-3 beats per second, and those beats can be broken down into 2 or 4 times by most people as dense bits of data our mind is processing. If you multiply all these options together, you get 4, 6, 8, and 12 "frames" of data for the everyman, and maybe some extension for people with good rhythm. So now lets think about what video games are asking of us. Most video game engines are processing input from the user/player/speedrunner anywhere from 30 to 60 times a second most commonly, with some going further, but sticking to the norm is best here. This means that based on the range of "frames" per second and the range of frames per second we get from video games, can we find some reasonable comparisons to make? While our numbers are a bit conservative for the everyman, we can still see that at the highest frame processing rate theorized still has 2.5 frames of video data happen for the lowest input rate of most games. That's why it's a learned skill. If you're not musically inclined, you may miss a lot of detail from a performed piece. Likewise, if you're not practiced with video game inputs, you may miss a lot a jumps in a Mario game. So let's think about this the other way around. What does it take to keep up with a video game if defined by beats per minute or music? EDIT: All the math after here is bad, I'm wrong by a factor of 10. Should be 3600 times a minute. If you're playing a 60 inputs per second game, you're requesting data to be processed and acted on 360 times a minute. I just so happen to have a way to break that into something I can have you listen to. For my own amusement I've been working on taking the song Chattermax from the album Bluey: Dance Mode! and turning it into a "Max 300" styled step chart, calling my chart "Chatter(Max 360)", as nods to both the proper title Joff Bush gave to the track, as well as the lineage of the song charts that inspired the work. But that title I gave should have brought up a flag. The "Max" series of songs are titled From the original Max 300, a 300 bpm song, set up the be the end boss for anyone wild enough to play of song on the hardest difficulty, and get a full combo, but on top of that, have less then like 16% of the steps be below the Perfect rating. The song regularly had you hit runs of eighth notes at a blazing 300 bpm, but there's a secret behind that. Conceptually, 300 bpm can also be done at 150 bpm, but instead of eighth notes being the smallest note, it would be a sixteenth note. Compare that with what we said the everyman could commonly process. The everyman simply needs to learn to process one more division of beat further to be capable of processing something like Max 300. That's still a lot to ask, but now you have context. But now, Chatter(Max 360). Yes, it plays on the screen at 360 bpm, but I was only able to set it there because Chattermax was written as a 180 bpm song and I doubled it for the game. And again, with eighth notes being the deepest it goes. BTW, if you listen to the song the rhythm of the words "Chattermax" is on the eighth notes. Chat-ter-max, one-and-two. If you can process the individual beats at that speed ad nauseum, you can be a speedrunner. Okay, where did I go? Anyway, yes, a metronome at 180 bpm with you processing each input as a sixteenth note is what Niftski is doing speedruns of SMB1, and he should use a tool like my silly idea for practice. Now to copy paste this out, and start recording a really badly presented video essay.
@theoppositeistrue
@theoppositeistrue Жыл бұрын
@@cliftonchurch6039 I understand the logic, but don’t know how to program the software. If you do end up creating a piece of music where each input of the SM1 TAS run = a note in the arrangement, you have to upload it!! It doesn’t even need to be made using a program that translates the controller inputs into midi. It could theoretically be made by painstakingly writing all of the audio / midi entirely in the timeline of your DAW, where 0:00 in-game is of course 0:00 in the track. Would be even better if multiple instruments were used to make it musical, rather than just a sort of timing-map-that-uses-audio. Reaper will let you use a gamepad as a midi controller. If someone were to have both the emulator and reaper running simultaneously, they could both play and record the midi at the same time. Would love to hear that
@tomdyer8518
@tomdyer8518 5 ай бұрын
new subscriber here! this is genuinely one of the most interesting & well made videos on the platform. you gained a new fan immediately, your storytelling ability, editing, and technical definitions are spot on. I have so many great videos to catch up on now
@TrimutiusToo
@TrimutiusToo Жыл бұрын
Ah Niftski being too good... just the usual stuff... He is literally the guy about whom you can say "had to settle for just setting world records"
@flamerunner_anix
@flamerunner_anix Жыл бұрын
He’s so good that he’s been quoted by kosmic saying this about his planned future attempts of SMB1 any%: “I just hope the grind is longer this time” One day later, he reset the world record 💀
@Sir_Adam
@Sir_Adam Жыл бұрын
But he uses a keyboard...
@KimParkkinen
@KimParkkinen Жыл бұрын
He is just as good with actual hardware. There is plenty of proof from events and such he has taken part in. Niftski is a beast! @@Sir_Adam
@TrimutiusToo
@TrimutiusToo Жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Adam yes, it is insane how he is good with both keyboard and original hardware at the same time...
@Sir_Adam
@Sir_Adam Жыл бұрын
@@KimParkkinen But how can you put his run in the same ranking as others who use an NES controller? Keyboards give you much easier use of your fingers depending on the layout. That's like putting a keyboard user against a controller user in an FPS game.
@whitewolf0487
@whitewolf0487 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love summoning salt videos like this that deep dive into the mechanics of a game and how strategies evolve around the risks and rewards. I love following the journeys of the players, but videos like this just grip me so much
@colonelpopcorn7702
@colonelpopcorn7702 Жыл бұрын
Damn you really did a crazy good job with this one. The music selection and use of music was amazing, the scripting was great, well done all around
@Stain3610
@Stain3610 Жыл бұрын
Except the classic/ iconic intro was changed :(
@colonelpopcorn7702
@colonelpopcorn7702 Жыл бұрын
@@Stain3610 He changes things up from time to time. This intro is just as fire as the famous one
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez Жыл бұрын
When _In the Hall of the Mountain King_ caught my ear at 5:30 , I perked right up. I can't recall him using that as a stinger before, so hearing a new track was _bracing!_
@Stain3610
@Stain3610 Жыл бұрын
@@colonelpopcorn7702 have to disagree, I'm like Pavloved into waiting for the classic intro 😆
@Myhrrylyth
@Myhrrylyth Жыл бұрын
Hes been printing out documentaries like a machine lately. Love to see it but don't overwork yourself. Pretty sure im speaking for the whole community here when i say that we are completely fine with waiting for your videos. They're 100% worth whatever time you need.
@JoshuaKevinPerry
@JoshuaKevinPerry Жыл бұрын
Does his work ethic frighten you as you feign empathy.
@echowoods7977
@echowoods7977 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaKevinPerry his schedule has been MUCH faster than it used to be, it's reasonable to at least ask
@Skyforger23
@Skyforger23 Жыл бұрын
I´ll guess he´s just flowing, having perfected his production/scripts/always humor should for sure have impacted his "productivity". :) go salt@@echowoods7977
@aliceyuri
@aliceyuri Жыл бұрын
​@@JoshuaKevinPerrydoes empathy frighten you as you feign edge
@Myhrrylyth
@Myhrrylyth Жыл бұрын
@@aliceyuri lmao, fr tho put down the thesaurus
@jordanleviathanthwaites6501
@jordanleviathanthwaites6501 9 ай бұрын
my summoning salt is uploading soon radar went off
@titani1k
@titani1k 9 ай бұрын
Same bro
@alonectorch7877
@alonectorch7877 Жыл бұрын
i love how you're saving 'we're finally landing' for the end again. i love when it's only at the end
@rossjohnstone4689
@rossjohnstone4689 Жыл бұрын
Only summoning salt can make a 28 minute long video about a single level in mario both entertaining and interesting. That takes some massive talent and dedication.
@danceyrselfkleen
@danceyrselfkleen Жыл бұрын
This is beyond glazing. What you’re doing is something more akin to throating his meat and eagerly waggling your tongue on the sack. Do better lil bro.
@DankAudioStash24
@DankAudioStash24 Жыл бұрын
And not just any level, but a really short warp level, lmao
@earthian3658
@earthian3658 9 ай бұрын
I'm sitting here waiting for another Summoning Salt video like I'm going through withdrawal.... Please bro
@nicolasalejandro3879
@nicolasalejandro3879 Жыл бұрын
I always love this cases where people think they have reached the best way to do something, or they have peaked what is possible to then get revealed by some obscure means that someone, somewhere has got even deeper into the matter and had developed things beyond what they think was possible.
@Fsilone
@Fsilone 8 ай бұрын
9:13 "you start by doing 2 bumps." Best way to get going in the morning, better than coffee!
@EoinJoyceMapping
@EoinJoyceMapping Жыл бұрын
Only Summoning Salt could make me watch a 30 minute video about a game I've never played at 1:30 am.
@bcdm999
@bcdm999 Жыл бұрын
Have you played it at any other time of the day? It'd probably be easier in the afternoon
@fixedfunshow
@fixedfunshow Жыл бұрын
Play Super Mario Bros. 2 it is better than its reputation.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
Educate yourself on some of the best of early gaming. Original Super Mario games are all worth it.
@Fallub
@Fallub Жыл бұрын
Crazy how close we have become to TAS levels of runs. Great video. Very entertaining as usual.
@GamerPottato
@GamerPottato 6 күн бұрын
23:30 messed me up. That sound is some kind of torture for a Summoning Salt fan
@antmancometh
@antmancometh Жыл бұрын
Two videos in less than a month?? Crazy, and both are bangers! Honestly I like both the shorter and longer video formats; both work really well in narrating a story and explaining video game tech. Keep it up, you never cease to entertain me (:
@keeganz891
@keeganz891 Жыл бұрын
I can’t describe the anticipation and excitement I feel when I see a new Summoning Salt video.
@KooperMKW
@KooperMKW 11 ай бұрын
I really like how most people know what a framerule is and you wanted to have fun with it 😂, it’s a spectacle! Also being the fact you have explained the frame rule many times Salt! Also, this needs to be famous, for its long and hard grind!
@RatikusuCh
@RatikusuCh Жыл бұрын
"Bismuth's got nothing on me" I love you folks so much
@gauribadukale2397
@gauribadukale2397 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this game is so damn old but still players are speedrunning it is just insane.
@zackanderson8126
@zackanderson8126 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say I watch every one of your videos that comes out. I don't speed run personally, but the videos you make are always so intresting and keep me engaged the entire video. Thank you for the many years of great videos, you deserve everything you have worked so hard for!
@Sulmor85
@Sulmor85 Жыл бұрын
Everything from 5:50 is comedy gold . The music is PERFECT🤣🤣
@twotruckslyrics
@twotruckslyrics Жыл бұрын
perfecttt!!
@gamerzone0764
@gamerzone0764 21 күн бұрын
26:55 "He had to shell the idea of the 5-2 timesave and go back to setting world records....poor guy" I see summoning started to take himself a little less seriously and started having a shit ton of fun in scripting and editing. I knew rewatching older videos would be rewarding.
@LCSteeler16
@LCSteeler16 Жыл бұрын
Every Summoning Salt video is worth dropping what you are doing to watch it
@closeben
@closeben Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately SummoningSalt’s uploads result in over 1000 newborn babies being dropped every year.
@Odie_Nico
@Odie_Nico Жыл бұрын
​@@closebenwhat a fantastic trade!
@NeverFirst1
@NeverFirst1 Жыл бұрын
Summoning Salt usually takes a while to release new videos, but in return, his new videos are always masterpieces. It's odd to see him release a new video less than a month after his previous one, but I'm not complaining.
@Whiskypapa
@Whiskypapa Жыл бұрын
It’s also weird to see him release such a quick video and it’s not about the recent SMB1 WR, but I assume he will get to it. It certainly deserves a video, because now, we have reached a point where RTA and TAS is dead even until the very last level, which is frankly insane.
@TheVincibleCrab
@TheVincibleCrab Жыл бұрын
And its quality!
@inspectorvoid
@inspectorvoid Жыл бұрын
It’s lacks the usual intro music 😢
@kellanbigmoney
@kellanbigmoney Жыл бұрын
These videos shape me as a whole
@thejacket3891
@thejacket3891 Жыл бұрын
Ye they are nice. illeyez505 is a good youtuberrr.,,.
@JakinThebox12
@JakinThebox12 Жыл бұрын
​@@thejacket3891fax he is good at gta
@ReizokoRyu
@ReizokoRyu Жыл бұрын
They shape my hole ..
@everything.editzz
@everything.editzz 9 ай бұрын
Coems🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
@andrewvalenski921
@andrewvalenski921 Жыл бұрын
You’ve made the final thirty minutes of this transatlantic flight home a whole lot better. Thank you
@CharlotteMimic
@CharlotteMimic 8 ай бұрын
18:00 I love that because it's a translation of a millenium-era website, we get the sick-ass name "Devil's Spell" when it could have easily been called "ceiling pipe clip" or something else boring.
@0749Rockystar
@0749Rockystar Жыл бұрын
2:31Glitchless Ad skip
@philipcaseyacalloway204
@philipcaseyacalloway204 Жыл бұрын
Still love to see runner reactions to a sick run. Reminds me of being a kid again and finally beating a boss you’ve been grinding.
@AgelessObsession
@AgelessObsession Жыл бұрын
If more speedrunning tricks had cool names like Devil's Spell, speedrunning would be the most popular pastime on the planet.
@kevinkerkhoff6670
@kevinkerkhoff6670 Жыл бұрын
Perfect choice of music there 5:30
@beatziegraham6928
@beatziegraham6928 Жыл бұрын
I remember getting into SS by watching his 4-2 video. Now, years later, he finally goes up a game and world to 5-2.
@thatoneweirdrandomguy4766
@thatoneweirdrandomguy4766 Жыл бұрын
I swear,speedrunners are the philosophers of gaming for how they always ask questions and set out to answer them
@DesTr069
@DesTr069 Жыл бұрын
Some of the fastest 28 minutes I’ve ever spent, absolutely fantastic video, your Mario content is of the highest tier
@D-Fens_1632
@D-Fens_1632 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I just put something in the toaster oven for 7 minutes and started this. I was just wondering if my food was done yet when I realized I'm 21 minutes into the video.
@jinhunterslay1638
@jinhunterslay1638 Жыл бұрын
I have no interest or knowledge on speed running at all, yet I think this is one of the most interesting documentaries I’ve ever watched on KZbin
@stuffingtonjfluffypantsiii
@stuffingtonjfluffypantsiii Жыл бұрын
10:28 HE SAID THE THING!
@littled5986
@littled5986 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels on this platform, he really focuses on quality over quantity
@dylanrau384
@dylanrau384 7 ай бұрын
I’ll probably never speedrun a game myself someday but I love watching the community crack open games and beat them in faster and innovative ways
@AndersG84
@AndersG84 Жыл бұрын
This topic selection is a great change of pace for your channel. It was also very well executed.
@therealglennmann
@therealglennmann Жыл бұрын
This channel is so great. I'm not really into speed running but the way you present this information and the back stories have me hooked. Always stoked when you upload. Thanks for all of the great content, man!
@nacligang
@nacligang Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the amount of classic Mario content that has been showing up on my feed since niftski got the new wr(in the original smb)❤
@crunchycornetto
@crunchycornetto Жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on KZbin. Summoning Salt's videos relax me at night. I put headphones on and listen to the music and commentary. I'd really like the Content Creator to do a Doom original speedrun video. After all, the Doom speedrun community is large. Possibly even a Golden Eye 64 video would be great to watch! Thanks for viewing my comment
@Fa1cono
@Fa1cono Жыл бұрын
Wow, never really looked into the lost levels, but, wow, incredible level and incredible game. Shows the entertaining power of Mr Salt.
@TheHiroClaw123
@TheHiroClaw123 Жыл бұрын
15:07 the fact that it's named "Devil's Spell" is so fitting
@jesskady1585
@jesskady1585 Жыл бұрын
I think Salt is starting to realize his own meme-like existence. It's wonderful.
@eamonia
@eamonia Жыл бұрын
It's so good to see you making $$$ off of all your hard work. The sponsor for this video is actually pretty rad, too. I think I'm gonna check it out.
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban Жыл бұрын
When you explained how precise the TAS setup had to be, I knew that only Niftski had the power to pull it off. Sure enough, he did. Great video!
@leetcoderyt
@leetcoderyt Жыл бұрын
A speedrun within a speedrun explanation video. Mind blown.
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar Жыл бұрын
YES NEW SUMMONING SALT I don’t think I’ve ever even played this level before! Granted, I’ve never gotten too far in Lost Levels. Excited to experience this crazy new place!
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard Жыл бұрын
I hadn't noticed til now, but I enjoy how you say "pipe". Same as, I enjoy how Whang says "bones".
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