Sumo Wrestler Needs To Dead Lift | Starting Strength Network Previews

[@DollfieFace]

Solid advice here and good recap of power vs strength for the layman. Cheers Rip

[@dave_m31370]

hm: some errors, some corrections: 1) vertical jump can improve, although it's mostly genetically limited. The ratio of fast twitch fibers to slow and medium twitch can be altered. Not by very much, but also not negligibly, in one or the other direction by means of explosive or slow training "styles": explosive movements help the fast to slow fiber ratio, for example. 2) on the other hand, deadlift, squats, etc. DO GOOD, but if practiced "body building style" - with slow concentric and eccentric phases, or even "powerlifting style" too much - they can SLOW down the athletic movements (because of nervous factors unrelated to slow/fast twitch fiber ratio). Also, aerobic training can increase slow fiber count. 3) Power is Force x Distance (along the application of force) / time. True; and if Distance/Time is Velocity, or speed, then Power (P) = Force (F) x Velocity; *P = F x V* . This means you DO become more powerful (more P) just by increasing the *F* without being able to increase the *V* . Yet we know that V can be slightly increased, and, above all, it can be prevented from DECREASING: you power clean 100 kg (= 1000 N of Force) over a vertical distance of 1 m in 0,5 seconds, that's 1000 [N] x 1 [m] / 0.5 [s] = 2000 [W] = 2 kW of Power. DO that with 150 kg in the same 0.5 [s] and you produce *3 [kW]* . Do that again but now in just 0,4 [s] and that's *3,75 [kW]* . But here, I guess the accent was on the impossibility to decrease the time factor. which is "mostly true". 4) *increasing the deadlift* is important, above all because it shifts your clean effort on, say, 150 kg from being a maximal pull (that can be executed only very slowly) to a submaximal pull, that can be executed at higher velocity: if you can deadlift 500 kg, then 150 kg is lightweight to you, so you can throw it in the air very rapidly. BUT !!!!! Strength is very specific to certain positions and angles: you want to throw the 150 kg of your clean effortlessly in the air? You have to practice the CLEAN DEADLIFT (not _"the deadlift"_ ) , with the exact positions you would assume during a clean, otherwise the carryover is very small and can be counterproductive. 5) F = m x a. Newton's Law. A MASS ( *m* ) acted upon by a FORCE ( *F* ) acquires velocity at a rate of ACCELERATION ( *a* ). You double the *F* , at constant *m* , the *a* doubles and - *if the process were to happen in the same time, t* - the final velocity also doubles. After that you no longer have contact with the floor, and your final height is also fixed: it all depends on your peak velocity at the moment of breaking the floor. Your maximum vertical jump *IS* your final velocity. So you need maximal acceleration to achieve that, and that, over the same vertical acceleration PATH (not time! *path* ! ) Now comes the tricky part: as you exert more force, resulting in a faster acceleration rate, *you reach the end of the path sooner* . Sure, even in less time, you nonetheless reach a higher peak velocity; only: this increase is LESS than you would expect if the acceleration was to happen over a certain fixed *time* rather than a fixed acceleration length. Therefore the increase in peak velocity is there, but you don't double your peak velocity by doubling your force exertion.... you only increase it by ca. 41%, which is, therefore *less than linear* SO: a faster acceleration produces "diminishing returns" and these are often obscured by something else. Since *a = F/m* , the relative increase in *F* - by virtue of what said above about _the acceleration path being covered in less time_ - translates less than linearly into a peak final "launch" speed, BUT: an increase in *m* , instead, affects *a* in an inverse manner: you double the *m* , you halve the *a* . So what does the peak velocity do? It suffers in the same way as before, only: this time, by halving *a* you reach the end of the acceleration path *later* than expected than it it were to happen in a fixed time, instead of a fixed path. this way, the reduction in peak velocity is of course there, but not as bad as you'd expect: by doubling *m* you don't halve down the peak velocity: you only reduce it by 41 % (which is root 2, BTW). (Of course, those numbers we are talking about are just for the sake of argument: in reality there will be variations of much less than "doubling" or "halving" forces, masses accelerations, etc.. ) Therefore, An increase in both *F* and *m* can translate into a very tiny, or even a negative contribution to the peak velocity, and so to the vertical jump height. And, since muscle mass is needed to produce more Force, the net balance is hardly visible, barring some chubby boys losing much fat and gaining lean muscle, and explosivity. And *that's why* the vertical jump hardly increases in athletes, even when they train hard. Yet they DO become more powerful !

[@pinksupremacy6076]

I agree. Louie Simmons showed, time and time again, that you can increase most peoples power.

[@Cormac-jd2kx]

That’s exactly what I was gonna say 😵‍💫

[@RyleyRehab]

Should he pull sumo rip?

[@gsquared2394]

Why are the hands pinching and contracting while it talks

[@Andreslashfully]

Lobster schizophrenia

[@trevorandthegunrunners4376]

There’s a female ghost lying on the desk

[@fsmoura]

Excess testosterone leading to Untamed Strength-no, wait, that's another channel ( -.-)

[@nastrimarcello]

There's this guy Isaiah Rivera who's a professional dunker and uses starting strength to get stronger (he now sells his 'own' program which involves power cleans, squats and deadlifts) he now has a 50 inches vertical (running) jump. You can see his progression on his channel here on KZbin.

[@fsmoura]

Alright... so I guess it's already predetermined what kind of deadlift he'll be choosing then ( o.o)

[@wreagfe]

What do you mean, there's only one proper kind. 0_o

[@ChessGrandBassTurd]

​@@wreagfeIt's a sumo joke lol. On the real though Zercher's are god tier for being powerful in a sumo stance

[@markjung235]

Guy was trying to get away with some light power cleans. But Rip set him up for one set of fahves 700 pound deadlifts. 😂

[@jcdenton2907]

260lbs and deadlifting 315!? You aren't doing the program!

[@rowyerboat8648]

He did mention that he’s in the second week of a NLP. So starting out with a 300lb DL ain’t bad.

[@fsmoura]

Wait until he hears I'm 315 with a 260 deadlight then (" o.o)

[@connorgreen3000]

First view and comment!

[@everydaywarriors]

Our boy Hafthor can jump maybe 14 inches. But he holds the world record for deadlifting. A little dink on a basketball team can vertical 42+ inches, but he'll be lucky to deadlift half that.

[@kingofkows9777]

Haven't watched the video yet to know why this is a relevant comment but I feel it's highly worth noting that Hafthor at the time of deadlifting that, weighed an absolutely monstrous 460lbs more than most people's max deadlifts lol. Put little dink in a 360 lb weighted vest and see what he'd do at that point 😂

[@gsquared2394]

And Hafthor will have a much better powerclean compared to the little dink.

[@JudokaDaJoka]

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[@mytimesc]

Thank you 👍