Super and co. discuss Overwatch 2 wishlist, NA vs APAC, and roster changes! - Plat Chat Ep. 59

[@PlatChat]

0:00 - Intro 5:55 - Grand finals interview/2x champ Super 22:30 - NA vs APAC 45:20 - Super Interview 52:15 - OW 2 was announced a year ago; What are we hoping to get? 1:07:50 - Danteh back to Outlaws 1:13:14 - Dallas add Fielder 1:24:38 - NYXL parting ways with Nenne, Whoru , HOTBA and BiaNcA 1:36:18 - Atlanta Reign drop almost everyone 1:40:21 - Paris Drops French Players 1:48:53 - Seoul Dynasty re-sign FITS, Marve1, and creative 1:54:05 - Bren's Player of the Week

[@SINotFound]

The Plat Chat curse strikes once again, guess we'll have to wait a week for the Mano coverage

[@Radom7]

Watch moth go to glads right after the emergency episode

[@TheGhostServant]

At this point, I think teams hold off on announcements so they skip the platchat coverage

[@nathanloon3124]

@@TheGhostServant LOL! I think you're right, my dude!

[@WhitestOC]

DO WE NOW???

[@thjgby]

They’ll probably have an emergency episode

[@Joshua-Stacy]

plat chat improved their main tank position, good move to start the offseason

[@dejonjanuary488]

Super's face when bren was telling his story was priceless

[@leonp.2171]

timestamp?

[@hotelbreakfast2]

@@leonp.2171 3:00

[@dogs-game-too]

Sideshow has a great point about how playing games as a career makes it much harder to mentally escape or relax while playing. Being a full-time designer has crushed my out-of-work creativity because the last thing I want to do after designing all day is do more.

[@TheMrLeapFrog]

Bren just admitted to letting his friend from the UK die because he doesn't have T-Mobile

[@Joe_Payne]

His fault for not ranking up to the best 5g network in America

[@ReedoTV]

T-Mobile is called EE in the UK. That lack of knowledge caused his death, not Bren

[@rappermerch7785]

@@Joe_Payne I have the 5g signal and get 40mbps :/

[@evilstunky]

@@ReedoTV wow thought we still had t - mobile. I assumed EE was some random company, mad

[@aquaticmaniac8979]

Kurt did a good job on the Thumbnail 👏

[@jackebbs6069]

👏

[@dakotaard306]

Agreed!

[@luisangeltrujillo1236]

Reinforce died for this

[@stevenjaco5539]

Super’s face at the beginning of the T-Mobile story was too funny 😆

[@theempowerer5718]

That was everyone’s face tbh

[@MrMinefinity]

Super actually hit the nail on the head with NYXL, we all love our boys and want them to succeed wherever they go, it'd just be nice if they succeeded on NYXL. For some reason the org/staff never wants to play libero even though he always ends up being the best on whatever flex role they need, Mano is one of the best main tanks but his defensive playstyle just isn't optimal in 2020, SBB is my favorite player in the league but I, unfortunately, believe that he peaked in 2018, and Jjonak hasn't seemed like he's improved at the same rate that other flex supports have or that he demands too many resources when that's not optimal in 2020 either. I want NYXL to win but with all the signings that have already happened with no pickups in either players or staff, I have a bad feeling for next year NYXL with an all-new tank line, a DPS lineup that is never played, and possibly an ok main support who has never played with Jjonak.

[@thanishdavipaul2876]

pepeLaugh nyxl tank line

[@nritsch]

I would love to have more episodes featuring a pro. This was really fun.

[@yudianathotiana1391]

It was only fun cause Super is talkative. Most pros would be too quiet or awkward.

[@twirlypelican1120]

@@yudianathotiana1391 facts super is pog

[@jermaineconley3469]

Bring on danteh or space!!!

[@nanonasone3113]

Danteh next?

[@nathanloon3124]

I'd put the mic in front of Dogman

[@westhefitting4105]

Honestly, it’s so reassuring to hear people in the esports scene talk about Covid. The nature of esports and its adaptability to online makes esports professionals quick to embrace quarantine. As a grocery store employee, I spend a lot of time worrying about my ability to spread Covid-19, and there’s a terrifyingly high percentage of people in my life who don’t take that seriously. I sympathize with the pro players and all the casters and analysts who feel burnt out by the grind and are fatigued by having their professional and personal lives occupy the same physical space and their lives. I wish it wasn’t so brutal for them, but I do really appreciate how safe they all same to be behaving, and how much pro-Covid safety they promote, from the “play apart together” stuff on OWL broadcasts to Shock closing off the restaurant in Seoul for the players and staff to celebrate their championship victory. To Super, the Plat Chat crew, and all other esports pro players and staff, thank you. It legitimately warms my heart that I’m not alone in this pandemic.

[@thesecretthirdthing]

Amazing episode, really nice having a personality like super on especially after winning it all.

[@dolphinii3673]

honestly, i enjoyed this sooo much

[@sncf9275]

AcTuAlY hE wOn IT 2 tImEs

[@lagavr4693]

@@sncf9275 consecutively not once last year and again in 10 years, CONSECUTIVELY

[@ooga01]

dogman or mcgravy would be an awesome guest

[@coopcan4502]

Bro owl teams hate platchat they announced Mano to philly like a couple hours after

[@jackebbs6069]

They got paris

[@dudeman22648]

Now mandu too rip NYXL fans

[@marozid1]

I'm so happy for the PlatChat crew to be able to score Super star player Supertf on their little podcast show. I'm glad Mr. Super gave you guys a chance. You guys are moving up.

[@tristansisk1770]

I hope this isnt a legit comment these guys can get whoever and whatever OW league player they want

[@baileypatterson9533]

@@tristansisk1770 it’s a joke. I’m concerned you couldn’t tell

[@pierrepopioleck8112]

Soon is still on OW, he will do trials soon (or he already did some idk). He just said that if he doesn't find any team, he will go on Valorant

[@xChaleur]

Super has wet dreams of an Overwatch where the only 4 heroes are Rein Zarya , Ana Lucio

[@maxhusaini6400]

Plat chat making the biggest off-season moves upgrading the main tank position from ex pro to 2 times champion

[@ManateeCannon]

bren needs to stop scamming the poor trivia bandit. he just wants to test your knowledge

[@genjamin]

People don't seem to realize that a likely reason for OW2 radio silence is that they want to continue selling their game. As soon as you announce a date or start getting people excited about OW2 then your OW1 sales will start dropping. The reason for the Blizzcon announcement of OW2 is to manage expectations regarding the lack of new content in OW1 while all their resources are dedicated to OW2. There is not really a better way to do this that I can think of, this was their best move IMO.

[@fossforever512]

I mean, seeing as OW2 is basically a massive free expansion for OW1 + a story mode and other PVE and cosmetic changes I would be surprised if people stopped buying OW1 accounts just because OW2 is coming soon

[@genjamin]

@@fossforever512 everything you said is actually incorrect.

[@spyros8282]

Add Kurt to the Plat Chat starting roster

[@seanalexander1241]

When Super goes into how he wants the story of Overwatch 2... It hurts my soul a bit. What a day to watch this for the first time.

[@User5770]

Super was a great presence on this cast. It would be great if we could see other pros come in every now and then, especially now that we're in the offseason.

[@spacecowboy7273]

is there a compilation of brens player of the week. I would pay for this content.

[@mortenmyrvang7209]

you can find all in wikipedia if you search for T-mobile

[@Softiehedgehog6]

One of the best episodes to date :) super was the perfect guest to have on to wrap up the season cos he was there for the whole thing and has all the inside knowledge!

[@MonsiourMohawk]

super is genuinely one of my favorite members of the overwatch community

[@dannyfz]

To add onto the coaching discussion of good coaches in the league, heres some good news for dallas fans. According to crimzo and paintbrush, Yong is one of the few coaches that gets into the thick of it and actually coaches. Rush should be the same

[@alexmorales3805]

correct

[@templarexemplar35]

with every passing episode, i detect the tmobile ad sooner each time

[@SimonLindberg17]

New thumbnail is looking really clean, glad to see the production quality keep on rising

[@glacier_official]

This episode is fantastic, you guys should have more pros on. It's so interesting hearing their first person perspective.

[@thebigcosk]

I love how super said “put valiant in apac,” and then they go to apac lmao

[@jonathanlim5605]

The former GC Busan coaches were top 2 and 3 this year, some won season 1 with Spitfire, and we all know what they did before OWL

[@luismgoncalves]

"Well I think uhm kinda, like well like uhm and what not it's like I think that, well, right?" -Matt

[@wordenit9351]

Episode 100 you have to get Jeff Kaplan

[@ayaan__sev]

Overwatch was announced literally one year in development... even though Blizzcon 2014 had a demo for it, it was far from done like 80% had to still be built up from scratch. Considering all this, why do people get surprised when Overwatch 2 has no release date or no news at all, It's literally so raw even though they made it look presentable in Blizzcon 2019, Its what the did with OW1 all we can do now is wait.

[@thegrainofrice]

The assistant gm Avalla is doing everything right now for Paris right now. That is why there has been no social media posts or anything. And yeah their budget is super tight. Also xzi denied an offer from Dallas because he wanted to be on a mixed roster

[@gfern7]

Marve1 absorbs every off-tank who enters his range

[@Darichun]

Matt said OW is top 5 in PC bangs in Korea and it sounds like it's doing well but it's acually just 5% of market share compared to 55% of LoL.

[@charlienotcharles4137]

It would be great if someone could make animation versions of Brens TMobile stories 😂

[@anonymousalligator7994]

Bren: We'll fix that post show Kurt: How about no

[@tristansfun]

IM SO HAPPY WE GOT SUPER ON!!!!!

[@futaba9675]

That moment when this pops up in my recommended and I get excited bren is back. Sadge

[@kennygg5020]

Did he quit?

[@kallinlee8606]

Wow, we got the two-timer up in here, very nice.

[@dogs-game-too]

KOTH needs a progress checkpoint at 50%, like how capture points have them at 33% and 66%.

[@onepants6081]

??? thats doesnt do anything. The point of the checkpoints in 2cp is so you don't have to cap the entire point in one push. With KOTH the percentage doesn't reset if you don't full cap.

[@dogs-game-too]

@@onepants6081 Very fair point. I was thinking it would help with some capture points that are notoriously hard to cap - like city center oasis - not feel so hard to cap with random teams, but I definitely see your point.

[@onepants6081]

​@@dogs-game-too Oh, i didnt understand what you meant at first, but now i do, i thought you meant a checkpoint in terms of the control point progress. i think the game already has some form of this system, as long as you contest the point your recapture percentage doesnt go away. Adding a 50% mark could definitely be a good idea and would give people more of a sense of progress on ladder. But i see ur point.

[@CrazeeAdam]

1:19:25 this is 100% how Fleta made Seoul sound. and i can believe it

[@apostleow]

"We'll fix it in post" Narrator: They did not

[@drkirbkennethkirby7634]

Lmao, bren "Gmaul spec'd" I love the runescape referenceg

[@Bioshyn]

@NA vs APAC the bad teams don't matter, it matters how many good teams there are, apac had 1.5 with seoul and charge being good sometimes, so there was nobody who really could steal any wins from shanghai all season long. NA had 3 maybe 4 teams who could take a win against any other team

[@Manimal_Official]

This is the best platchat in a while, keep it up guys

[@Darichun]

They talk about how it's a miracle they even finished the season when there is LoL worlds where it was 100x better in production while having the same global pandemic.

[@jonathanlin1501]

Official NYXL fan here; totally agree with super about NYXL and Nenne. Edit: when he said Nenne and Libero I literally creamed my pants. I love you super

[@Blakeyoutube3]

I think the playoff format needs to change. I like the double elim but they need some sort of series component. When u talk about Paris and how great their season was all they need is to have one bad day or play against a team who was really on it that day (or both in both games) and their cinderella season is over. Washington for example would have had more issues with their run cause teams could play a game than create a strategy to play against it instead of short notice and having surprise play a bigger factor than skill and strategy.

[@RoomateNSNL]

Super was good in the episode. Please invite in on more he is a great guess!

[@catgrrlz]

Geguri as a Seoul off tank would be interesting

[@vanibath8814]

the blind robber plot thickens

[@esuing]

Should get Packing10 on the show one week. He's been on others and he's a great interview, very straight shooter, too. Interesting perspective with hero pools, too.

[@dudeman22648]

This episode was great, very much like hltv and a positive view for future episodes

[@snaccpacc651]

Get an LFT player on, would be interesting as heck

[@michelsoupovair3328]

I heard Paris also fired their CM which would explain why they didn't tweet anything

[@GetterOfPussy]

If you put like a t-shirt or something to muffle your speakers a little bit then super's voice isn't so squeaky

[@maetthi_]

I watch PlatChat only for the TMobile ad

[@SatansTesticls]

I kinda got the feeling Philly was getting rolled in scrims and that fucked up their confidence before the finals even began. I’m not a Philly fan but it was sad to see them lose every single map :(

[@sindri1447]

I'm a Philly fan and I was just kind of pissed. I know this team is good but whenever it comes to play offs I start questioning the player choice for every map, the tactics, the communication, the players themselves. I've been blaming the coaches since 2019. Everyone was always blaming Sado at the time but I feel like I'm one of 2 people in the world who knew at the time that the entire team just wasn't meshing together and that's 100% on the coaching staff. It's still a problem. Not all the time. It just pops up every now and again. Love the new Philly but man they need to work on the lows cause they are loooooow.

[@SatansTesticls]

@@sindri1447 Yeah I always thought it was super unfair when people blamed Sado for literally everything, I’m so glad he got to redeemed himself. As a Shock fan I was worried about Philly at the beginning of the Season, because they improved their already stacked team plus the motivation to finally make this their year and it was very frustrating and sad (because I love Fury and Alarm) to see them run short when it mattered :(

[@JIP214]

Bren literally just mind gamed super with the t mobile ad

[@ForEver010]

Great episode!!!!

[@KaiDoesMineCraft10]

I stand by my statement that between Philly and the rest, it's a coaching difference. They have the pieces, and Super talking about their weird reads basically confirms what I was thinking: Philly worked on a superstar lineup, but they didn't prioritize a better team culture or better coaching. Team culture especially, they seemed the dullest out of the top 4.

[@szl8188]

Next guest? Gesture. Come on BABY!

[@symbolitical4158]

Philadelphia's performance was just plain sad tbh because we all know they are capable of more. Fan or not.

[@sindri1447]

Yes! As a Philly fan it was just frustrating to watch. I'd also like to say that letting go of Poko and EQO hurts so bad man. I think Philly really needed to play EQO more. The guy has always been nuts on so many different heroes. He was the Philly version of Rascal really. Picking up Fury was always just weird to me too because we never needed him to begin with. Put Poko in instead of Fury and you could never tell a difference. Their roster is almost identical and they're both ridiculously good at what they do. Also, I just really hate how every team in the league keeps going full Korean. Makes me enjoy the sport way less knowing that no team ever wants to have any western players.

[@kobesunardi79]

@@sindri1447 also considering that a lot of great na players just like to stream, whereas koreans strive to go pro. i mean just name a great na main tank in s3

[@therealsamtheman]

Glad *SOMEONE* agrees with me about Control being the least favourite gamemode. Also removing shields from OW would be so moronic, if people need things to die that urgently they should remove healing too. Go back to one of the other 20 games for DPS centric gameplay and rub your sniper rifle some more.

[@sethyoder7996]

Here's a question for you. Is overwatches monthly player count boosted by alt accounts? Because Personally I have 4 total accounts and I play on all of them periodically. I don't think its super common to have 4 but most people have and use at least two.

[@Kanggaxx]

Yes it is boosted by alt accounts. But all companies and games do the same thing, so it's still okay for comparing.

[@soggybreadst1cks812]

So is this what super was doing instead of streaming last night

[@sulnday]

such a good ep w Super.

[@wouren]

Bren has his arm around his lovely date, super 1:32:47

[@MCShapeShifter]

Building a small pc is easy, its the same thing but you have to compartmentalize the space

[@tedtrench8487]

But if you’ve never built one.

[@FRANK5733]

Halo 2 speedruns are cool af!

[@AdamVoidless]

Why do they pre-record it? Cant they just do it Live?

[@lethixplayz3185]

They pre-record it so that they can edit it if someone says something they shouldn’t have

[@anishgoel8127]

Can you let reinforce stream again, maybe loosen the shackles a bit too

[@milohampton9609]

Aside from the end London were better than Chengdu they rolled them twice and even took shanghai to 5 maps twice

[@Kanggaxx]

Reducing queue times can be done by going 5v5: 1-2-2

[@32royalmistake23]

Kurt should be MVP next year

[@antons1809]

1:35:00 seoul 😔

[@gamm8939]

what website are they using for rosters and stuff?

[@catgrrlz]

15:43 for Super BURP

[@jonc3519]

Am i the only one that likes new yorks slow reactive style? Its like the judo of ow

[@lo-fi8481]

You would assume since it's completely quiet with ow2 that they're hoping to atleast have the beta out by blizzconline

[@dudeekill4win]

I actually really liked super in this Hopefully we can get more guests especially super back Maybe danteh next?

[@botanstar879]

I bought a keyboard as well! allot of fun and its not as hard as people make it out to be either

[@Rekcha]

You know what provides a good atmosphere to watch Plat Chat if you live in the US? A polling station, in which you can vote for President! So go out and vote my friends, because voter turnout was not good in 2016, and well... look what happened

[@javieracosta2351]

They didn't fix it in post

[@VBani]

Either that or it was even worse... equally possible :D

[@asuramaru8180]

If they all get RTX cards they can use nvidia broadcast for a green screen effect and it’ll seem like they’re all at the desk #notSponsored

[@bantay21]

Do the Pokemon Fire Red Speed run with Nuzlocke Rules

[@eyeden819]

overwatch is in a great spot- for everyone but main tanks. main tanks are just absolutely shafted right now and the game is borderline unplayable. The only "main tank" currently playable is Wrecking Ball because double off-tank is just too good in ranked.

[@cjcannon328]

Can we all be honest with ourselves and say that push is just the tower control gamemode form splatoon

[@masonlevitt9992]

Watching the NYXL section now that we know Mano is gone is crazy

[@floralpatterns21]

The time stamps being inaccurate is pretty annoying

[@AA-cl2oq]

That desk is sexy

[@iamrade4ever]

Replace Reinforce with Johnny the Wise

[@misfileash9600]

You guys should get Johnny as your next guest

[@NaruBrilu]

Are you guys going to do the console overwatch tournament that you guys were saying u might do?

[@rezirre9750]

54:18 LOL- BIG