OWL Summer Showdown Review, Upsets Everywhere! - Plat Chat Ep. 41

[@PlatChat]

0:00 - Intro 5:02 - Genji is Back 15:21 - NA Upsets 27:50 - NA's Most Disappointing Team 31:42 - Paris Dethrones the SF Shock 37:23 - NA Finals: Paris vs Philadelphia 59:27 - Seoul vs Shanghai 1:05:23 - NYXL vs Guangzhou 1:17:40 - Asia Finals: Guangzhou defeats Shanghai 1:33:22 - Bracket Review 1:40:39 - Bren's Player of the Week

[@soccerburn552]

I still can't believe T-Mobile is willing to waste money on this cut rate production.

[@xshadowwreckerx7561]

SoccerBurn55 ......

[@seanma2423]

SF shock necros

[@reformed1trick739]

I can't even play the game on 200 ping, meanwhile fielder puts up one of the most legendary support performances

[@imjinkak-_-4705]

Bring Custa for the power ranking show

[@dinkuspaul1732]

Bren: Shanghai lost because Fearless just had his girl stolen by the rookie Crong when he brought her to Gesture’s local flower shop. No other possible explanation.

[@astroharoon9019]

absolute big brain moment

[@ApexFunplayer]

This just hurt to read.

[@kmag27]

But actually Reinforce's idea of fixing a team every week is really cool and they should def do it, if not this year but in the offseason

[@martynpoyser6381]

Agreed, it would be interesting to hear which adjustments could help individual teams. ESPECIALLY with regards to this week's matches

[@irradiated6126]

after what I saw last weekend I’ve just been waiting for this

[@masterzjg]

Agreed, I've been so excited. So much went down

[@robbiegruberger2337]

The anticipation was so real.

[@itwasiim8587]

Same!!

[@spiegelbild959]

Can we just admit for a second, how sad Fielder looked in his facecam, when Paris won and he was sitting somewhere in Korea, alone, not with his team.

[@pissedmonke8702]

I was asleep when they won, I never saw that, and I never knew he was in Korea alone, now I feel sad.

[@michelsoupovair3328]

He said in an interview that he just wanted to sleep. It was around 1pm for him at the end of the match (started at 4am I think). Poor guy

[@mr_ekshun]

Achilios just took Fielder out for a celebratory dinner apparently! Even better, it sounds like the Paris Eternal set it up or was involved in some way. Made me happy to see :)

[@commander-fox-q7573]

Bren’s dream story was mental. Great way to end a episode

[@synktrain]

Laughed my ass off, Bren is a treasure

[@zak0o110]

I’m literally in tears

[@samkingco]

New drinking game... take a shot every time Mr. X says "like"... you'll pass out in no time

[@yerite2521]

10 minutes in and youre dead, do not play this drinking game lmao

[@kevinj9270]

If you play this while listening to Harsha you'll be dead in a minute.

[@brainlesscactus3184]

Paris will definitely stay as a top 3 team in NA on every other meta than double hitscan (and it's not even sure that they are that bad at it). BenBest doesn't get enough credit for his incredible performance, the man was lights out during the whole summer showdown and no way Sp9rk1e would have popped off as much without him

[@waalrus7781]

actually Benbest is probably the best western MT right now

[@tomcrawford8326]

@@waalrus7781 better than super?

[@waalrus7781]

@@tomcrawford8326 well they are both shotcallers and teamleaders, their Reinhardts are quite the same level imo, and Benbest seems to be genuinely better on Orisa (and I don't really saw them playing Winston for a while but i guess they are both ok on it) So yeah, probably better than Super

[@tyelollipop9542]

DoctorGavial benbest is dog

[@permanenteuphoria2723]

Tye Lollipop did you watch the Eternal games?

[@Thorn13374]

That T-Mobile plug was beautiful Also poor gladiators, they should be so much better. Maybe next tournament

[@a8727]

I've been a fan of them since stage 1 season 1 and never before I was this confused. With iremix It made since why we were subpar. Then we got good. And it made sense. Now, according to all laws of aviation gladiators should be good.

[@rickmorty4376]

Like platchat said, they trying so hard to play like sf shock where every fight is winnable no matter what (irrc dpei picked mirror because he wanted someone like sinatraa) but seems it's a playstyle that doesn't suit for them

[@psypsy751]

Genji was previously only good with for the dragon blade. Now he's good in the midfight too. With the caveat that you have to be good at him... They'll probably lower his ult generation rate though.

[@tomcrawford8326]

The thing about his ult generation rate is that only insane genjis like sparkle can charge it as fast as they do

[@wifi_888]

@@tomcrawford8326 you're just wrong

[@W1sp3r295]

Tom Crawford, since they reduced genjis spread, it is easier to hit more shots which means getting his ult is a lot easier.

[@rickmorty4376]

Irrc linkzr and surefour on the avast'stream said that genji still sucks in the neutral fights especially against double shield

[@Skund79]

@@W1sp3r295 Just look at Genjis WR in Silver. He is a top tier pick in silver, this should not happen to "high skill hero". If he is not broken for GM/T500 (which I doubt), then sure he is for mid and lower ranks.

[@shirotenkai8180]

Imagine being Neptuno working his ass off on twitter to get Bren's player of the week and not getting it ... .. . . Almost as bad as Philly not winning a final

[@d3w222]

neptuno and babybay have an honarary player of the week every week because they are beautiful human beings

[@aquaticmaniac8979]

Shock should sign Bren for his Genji or Sideshow for his Doomfist

[@Trisiton]

too unfair

[@aquaticmaniac8979]

@@Trisiton True. Sideshow's Doom is better than Sinatraa could ever be

[@thefactor910]

Or?? Not signing both would be a travesty

[@fulnaz3164]

Brenji and Sidefist

[@Trisiton]

Fulnaz sidefist sounds like a porn category

[@aurioh]

‘Is Sp9rk1e holding back Paris’ just keeps aging worse and worse

[@alinazar6988]

I mean they looked absolutely horrible that week

[@superduperkid3143]

Since you're so dumb I'll explain it to you. You review a team based on their performance, NOT what they might turn out to be.

[@sEaNoYeAh]

That comment was dumb AF at the time and dumber now. Nico was blatantly the problem. Nico has been Paris's biggest problem all season. Remember how hard he threw throughout the Echo meta? How many blizzards he missed in Mei meta? Hell during this match in his one map appearance there's a moment where they teleport high on Lijiang Tower and he *misses* the teleporter. He has to walk back, then goes through, falls off the wrong side, ults and insta dies.

[@vroomvroom4171]

Bruh still tho has he done fantastic on any hero that’s not genji. No

[@henryward3742]

GhostSamurai wtf are you on???? Nico has been one of the best Mei players in the league

[@DontSigh]

Regarding Eileen: From the beginning of Guangzhou's season until Nero left for visa stuff, they were mostly playing Eileen/Nero and subbing out Eileen for Happy on widowmaker maps. Nero was mainly playing Mei and Pharah with some Tracer while Eileen was playing a crapton of Sombra, as well as some Mcree and Reaper (and to a lesser extent, Torb and Ashe). In short, Eileen has spent the whole season playing lots of different things and wasn't hurting for playtime before Nero left. But he has certainly been able to showcase a great genji and his flexibility overall in a way that he probably wouldn't have been able to do if Nero had never needed to leave.

[@sta697]

Sparkle was tired when playing Philly and said so himself,he was playing worse.Which is understantable after that epic match with shock!

[@rudania]

Sure. Just like every player this evening. Or do you think Philly wasn't after playing two matches?

[@Jigzawman]

Rudania a 3-0 roll against Toronto is nowhere near a 5 map fight to the end against the shock, come on man.

[@pissedmonke8702]

@@Jigzawman You 3-0 rolled Rudania

[@tanugad1896]

Rudania Philly also got like a 3 hour break between their matches

[@mattnorris7124]

@@tanugad1896 And Paris played an extra game the day before against the Fuel as well, which over a period of a couple of days can chip down your energy.

[@thaddcorbett2148]

25:21 - I've been listening to all of this while being half asleep and this really stood out. Yes this meta plays totally different than the last year and a half of OW. It's bloody exciting.

[@CharlesStanleyArt]

OMG! Matt when he's animated is so much fun and better than the live cast lol. Dude said, the Spark play like they're not even in voice LMFAO!

[@michelsoupovair3328]

I think "ping King" was found by owl production, I think I remember it written somewhere on the screen when fielder played his second match Btw SoOn said on stream that "sit" was aimed at eqo bc he typed that during the echo meta

[@marioarteaga5306]

It's funny that they think that it was at Carpe since Soon killed EQO before typing it and also Carpe didn't even die in that fight

[@earthspace3972]

Everyone watchout.... The BRENJI IS BACK!!

[@AT-jc9ss]

I just wanted to share my appreciation that you guys listened to our comments about ads and made this episode without the steady ads. I went for my run prepared to constantly click the skip ads button but was pleasantly surprised to not have to at all. Thank you very much for taking your fans’ thoughts and concerns into consideration, it just shows how incredible you guys are as content creators.

[@ryanm8067]

NYXL should have run haksal on brig and liberal or whoru on genji tbh

[@abrahamakinola7447]

one point I think they missed about the Philly shock match in the may melee is that we got dunked on so hard because carpe was on tracer duty, heesu wasn't up to the the task, I think if we had another tracer player and carpe on widow it would have been a different game

[@daxdleader719]

Here's my theory. Michelle wants to leave Seoul and so he somehow blackmailed the management into letting him play one map just to show that his Sigma is as good as Marvel's and that a team like London should make him an offer. 4head.

[@marozid1]

Bren was experiencing an alternate world line in his dreams.

[@mohithkumar3024]

Yeah I gotta disagree with sideshow on philly v shock. I feel like they would have stood a good chance at beating them due to how well they did against paris despite not prepping for them. I also think that last time philly went up against shock it was ans vs heesu and heesu was not up to the task, but carpe is another story. Edit: I didn't think sideshow would directly compare carpe to ans, but that's not really fair considering that ans was up against heesu in the ranged hitscan duel and kept getting dunked on, which makes carpe have to deal with ans and striker. You can't compare carpe's tracer to ans's widow that doesn't make sense.

[@karlmarx9993]

Sideshow is genuinely supremely biased and deep throating Shock while refusing to admit that he has favourites who he hypes up. Like it's legit getting annoying at this point. It's 3 years in and the analysis here (apart from Reinforce really, he's the only good analyst in this podcast) is wack.

[@symbolitical4158]

@@karlmarx9993 yeah he sucks off shock so hard it's ridiculous like when he was comparing the players jesus it sounded awful.

[@nritsch]

Ok; as much as Fielder deserves Player of the Week, I want to give it to Soon. The man plays 2 maps as a substitute for a Rookie of the Year candidate, wins both, outduels the leading MVP candidate, then uses his own trash talk against him IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FINALS.

[@TheNerd]

Time to revive Seagull :D

[@jruto101]

As a NYXL fan... I pretty much agree with everything said about them this episode. Carry on

[@beteezftw]

That is my favorite TMobile ad ever.

[@benjaminsymon5165]

Please do that rebuilding section, it would be very interesting!

[@AK-dp8uy]

1:18:00 Call it "Repair Pack: fixing the [Team] in the off season"

[@williamzhao2456]

The reverse honeymoon thing killed me. That was good

[@superduperkid3143]

NYXL need new coaches. These guys no clue wtf to do with the team anymore. They don't need 3 flex dps with same hero pools, libero having the widest but least specialized. They need to stop forcing Mei comps. They need to give Bianca a shot over Hotba. They need other main or flex supports with wider hero pools, why can't mandu play brig so anamo can play bap? Why is JJ on bap? They need confident widow play, Nenne is the only one and they don't even play his widow. If they're going to just play Nenne on tracer whats the point of SBB? I guess Nennes ash is okay. Why sign Haksal after Whoru? Whoru was so hyped up and all NYXL did was force him on mei then never play to his strength.Flower 2.0, NYXL out here ruining careers like it's fun. It's such a damn mess. /platanalysisover

[@babyfknblu]

"why is JJ on bap" oh no no no no no the plat analysis strikes again...

[@babyfknblu]

everything else does make sense tho

[@lethixplayz3185]

I agree. But they are probably going to drop WhoRU even though they haven’t played him in the genii meta. WhoRU’s genji is almost as good as Haksal but Haksal’s brig is better than Anamo’s. I didn’t watch Mandu on O2 but can he play brig well?

[@Oh-lk2qd]

They premiere it 1h30 after I left to cycle :( I had to listen to the Four Heads shit episode again and Plat Chat episode 1 where Sideshow says Decay's widow isn't that good

[@JamesLee-yn4wj]

LOL

[@friesel]

regarding the Gladiators: I always find it so funny to see Space's face after a loss, he looks so done with the Team and Match, like he knows he should easily win, but his Team can't keep up.

[@eggsngaming]

Ngl that was the best T mobile plug i've ever heard

[@andrewclastic2835]

The BEST crazy monologue that Bren has ever pulled out of his loony head. 1:50:51 - 1:52:56 I enjoyed this immensely. First time I've ever thought "I would love to hear more crazy nonsense from Bren!!" ... ... I immediately hated myself for that thought afterwards...

[@bantay21]

Is that a Sideshow confession for attempted murder on his girlfriend by feeding her garlic cake????

[@Alexb-zx6sr]

my annoyance with it is if u wanted to have these buffs in the summer showdown u should have had it in the pre games cos then some teams had an advantage based on positioning e.g. toronto

[@KuroStrawberryX]

Yeah that to me is straight garbage lol.

[@tfastfaster]

I would’ve been interesting to see carpe Ashe with snillo tracer in tracer Ashe meta

[@cjlessthan3355]

Matt’s “Truuuue” during the T-Mobile rant had me in stitches

[@joshuapinnix3560]

I honestly think jjonak is still elite to me the problem with NY is that they are playing 2 groups of 3 with completely different play styles.

[@mr_ekshun]

I saw a great suggestion on Reddit regarding Brigitte's recent repair pack nerf: have the repair pack _replace_ the top 50-75 health with armor. That way she's still not giving *extra* health but the repair pack is still interesting. As it is now, it's just a point-and-click heal that has very little strategic value left in it. It's just a simple question of who you heal with your charges. Having it _replace_ health with armor would still give Tracers an edge in a 1v1 and be very helpful in other situations. But it won't make much of a difference at all against burst damage, unlike when the repair pack added extra hp as armor. Then you'd still have to choose *how* you use your repair pack charges, not just *when*. Do you heal or do you empower an ally? I just don't want Brig to become an aoe heal bot... she's actually a really fun/cool hero. But the repair pack nerf really depresses me. Not because it's a nerf. It needed to be nerfed. But because it stripped away what made it unique. On a related note... in theory, I prefer the lower hp shield with faster recharge time. Her shield's interesting because you have to use it situationally to block, say, a D.Va bomb or protect yourself as you cross a widow's sightlines. A faster recharge but lower hp totally works for that style, but adding hp probably doesn't make much of a difference while making her shield feel worse to use because it has a longer recharge.

[@sempaibroom1816]

that had to be the smoothest transition Bren has ever done into the Ad. Kudos Bren

[@phoney4258]

Ah shit, here we go again. Another great Plat Chat episode to follow up on the most insane weekend of Season 3.

[@riannapekama6227]

Can't get T mobile in Australia but the advertising's got me wanting it. Successful marketing.

[@olle3207]

What if NYXL instead play Anamo on bap and Haksal on brig with WhoRU or Libero on Genji? Thoughts?

[@barney2k540]

Stupid idea, Jjonak is way better than anamo. On the other hand Haksal on brig sounds good but at the same time Haksal is just a better genji than WhoRU and Libero

[@davidaldair613]

Jjonak bap haksal brig whoru genji is what would have taken them further.

[@diran0]

I’m in a lower rank, (gold/plat) and I fucking LOVE Genji. Don’t know why anyone would dislike him.

[@danielchung4973]

NYXL needs to change their tanks up if they want to play aggressive. Trying to force mano and anamo to change their playstyle will be a massive challenge. Def start scouting some more aggressive main tanks.

[@leecollster6133]

Sideshow thinks that ANS beats Carpe on widow bc of their match. Like he says it is true both teams played a lot of widow/tracer but carpe didn't. Carpe was always relegated to tracer and Heesu faced ANS on widow, an obviously easy matchup for ANS. I think that given that EQO has a decent to good tracer they would be much more successful running Carpe widow and EQO tracer and couldve made that match a lot more competitive. maybe im misremembering tho idk :)

[@MrPnutlewis]

But then EQO gets destroyed by striker leaving the backline open

[@DukeLukeAtYourService]

I watch for the T-mobile chat up.

[@colder32]

I hate how Sideshow uses the last Shock vs Philly match as a reason why Carpe < Ans as a hitscan player. Carpe was on Tracer that whole match while Ans was on snipers. Especially because Heesu was on snipers that match and didn't put any pressure on Ans at all...

[@Breadnaught]

The "Ping King" bit killed me!

[@cameron7202]

Hot take (and I know I’ll regret this) but Toronto will start to look significantly better. I know agilities was the focal point for the defiants success, but the rest of the team played really well as well. Logix played great, nevix looked strong, numlocked and kruise played up, Kariv is a god. While genji will most likely be banned, Zykk is a good player who can come in for agilities and play. The team will be confident, they’re coming off of a great tournament showing, it’s a recipe for strong improvement.

[@tornation5609]

Why didn’t you guys talk about Paris using sombra and BenBest on Orisa probably turning into at least the second best MT in NA?

[@zak9463]

I just wanna say that I dropped sparkle from my fantasy roster for Xzi when platchat said sparkle was holding back Paris...then the next week they're like "oh nvm sparkle will carry". Now my friend won the summer showdown. I should've known better haha 🤬😔😅

[@petraSwZ]

Kinda sad no one talked about Shanghai wild ass blizzard world comp and how it almost worked

[@josh1346]

XL need a new coach they've been stumped in this boring slow play style

[@d3w222]

100% agree. if the coach cant hone this mega talented roster into an actual top tier team that wont choke another third place this year. imt was amazing season 1 but he fell off

[@yugen9351]

D3W222 Pavane was head coach Season 1 and most of 2 and imt was promoted to head coach near the end of last season. Also I looked up on liquidpedia when imt joined the NYXL and it was in December 2018 meaning he wasn’t even there for season 1.

[@johannesholden2517]

They need a new coaching staff, because you can tell they have the skill but not the coordination and team plays that the other teams do. They are also very slow at adapting to every new meta which would work in earlier seasons but now with hero pools and more frequent balance notes.

[@justinchookasezian2082]

Brig will always be a must pick unless armor pack is a skill shot. She’s a pocket healer that does the same healing as mercy with even more utility.

[@lincolnchildress6539]

And she can be used in a brawl comp while mercy can’t because rally and inspire are broken

[@ArkbladeIX]

yeah i'm not too conviced that brig nerf means brig is out. she's still heals the same as mercy while having a way better ult and 2 stuns to counter blade. lucio is anti-synergy w/ spam comp, and zen is too squishy to be playable against new genji

[@Piggehh]

Anthony Davis yeah high tier ranked the support meta isnt changed much, brig is still busted on ladder

[@fulnaz3164]

As long as brig kept her boop, stun, and rally she will never be *bad*

[@sindri1447]

I must be a pretty weird breed of a Philly fan since I was ecstatic to see EQO getting playtime. I've missed seeing him play.

[@ryanbedard6785]

I think it's impressive that the shock kept it close against Paris running striker on the tracer.

[@intelligentblue]

Also, T-Mobile need to hire Bren as a spokesman for any and all commercials. Kinda like the "Hear me now" guy but BRI-ISH

[@Nessa-939]

Did Matt miss the patch notes where brig overheal went from 75 to 50 cause he's said 275 hp both live on owl and now on plat chat

[@Ender13123]

That Eqo blade was amazing...and then on point B with less than a minute on the clock, he blades a losing fight. Had he not, he could of reached the payload again with his team and a blade, cap 2nd, maybe win the map/series. That's rough. To have clutched for your team, only for a mistake to throw it all away. I'm not trying to be a hater, but that's how it went. But we all saw the potential there, how close he came to securing the win. When Eqo was alone on the point A 1 v 3, Carpe had to come back him up. The entire run of the Fusion has been around making Carpe their star player. I mean, he is an insanely good player. Fusions have always been looking for a proper duo partner for Carpe who can keep up with him. But I think they have it backwards. Though he made a mistake that cost the series, I trust a veteran like Eqo to learn from it. I think he could lead this team. He's been around since session 1, they still have him on the rooster for a reason. And what player on earth could be a better wingman than Carpe? Sub in Chipsa for DF and Ivy for Mei, that's their best look.

[@symbolitical4158]

Lmao what lost then the series was Xzi picking off EQO and then carpe subsequently. Carpe choked and lost the duel to Xzi.

[@lemonfan2570]

Sideshow: "Genji is not op" Also Sideshow: "This is the first time in years a hero is so op that every resource on earth is put in to enabling them to solo carry"

[@Rileynjudkins]

As a NYXL fan, they aren't playing to win most the time, they are playing not to lose.

[@KenY2KenTV]

Matt's spot on about Genji in pub matches - his vertical mobility is very easy to use compared to almost any hero except Pharah (and lower-tier Pharahs tend to float in one place versus hopping Genjis who are constantly changing altitude). That makes him really difficult to handle for players who don't have particularly fast aim. I think also (and this might be a slight generalisation, but I don't think it's too off-base) there's probably some element that the type of players who main Genji - especially those who did it even when he wasn't as strong - tend to be the type of players who love winding up their opponents and teabagging after kills. He just has that kind of reputation. Also when he's on your team he tends to often be one of the characters who is most frequently first-locked regardless of team comp, and then the player spends the whole game hopping around in the backline looking for big clips and occasionally spamming for healing but never considering team play... Which means people's impressions of Genji are often negative even when he's on their team. Personally I've really enjoyed watching Genji finally be genuinely viable in OWL, and the comps it's created - I'm in total agreement that it's fun to see even if he is slightly overturned, and that at that level you really do have to play him incredibly well with the support of your whole team to get those big pop-offs. Look at Architect just collapsing on Volskaya and Hollywood. I'd probably bring his ult charge rate down a tad to compensate for his much better teamfight potential, but I think he's in a decent place.

[@DTerran87]

Carpe shudve been going sniper vs Ans. Heesu cant make it. Saying Ans outclass carpe is just false

[@overheels5546]

3 head take incoming... It's hard to hear the NYXL discussion but they make very good points, It feels like plugging Haksal into the team was their answer for a more aggressive play-style which is clearly the way to play based on the successful teams doing that, but some of their players don't gel with that style. I would be called insane last year for saying that Benbest would be a better fit for NYXL right now but his sacrificial all in on Sp9rkle play would fit Haksal way better than the reactive way that Mano plays.

[@badanderson4187]

Top tier Bren dream analysis at the end of this one. Wow that was great

[@SavagelyCalm]

11:30 in, Bren makes his first and only good point ever on Plat Chat :) LOL

[@tainoman1998]

Dude, it's been weird for me as a CoD fan seeing Mr. X here. It feels like yesterday, he was coaching the scariest team we may have ever seen in that game

[@auratavarez2919]

Please never allow Sideshow to bake ever again. Disagree with Sideshow's comment that Shock would've rolled Fusion in this meta. Clearly this was a meta that Shock was at it's weakest. I do agree with his comment about Fusion being unable to control the tempo, it happens in a lot of their matches that their timing is off on when to press on their advantages, they wait too long or try to make a play when things aren't in their favor. In the Grand Finals, Fusion ended with about 30 more final blows and 30 fewer deaths. Paris was quick to identify win conditions. Sideshow's comment about Carpe not being able to stack up to Ans is a hot take. Carpe's stats are all better than Ans on Ashe. On Widow, they're tied for final blows/10. Carpe has more solo kills/10. Ans. Even if compare them on all heroes, the only stats that Ans has better is 2.6 more damage and 0.7 better solo kills per 10. Carpe has 7 more hours of playtime and has flexed unto way more heroes. Reinforce is the one to bring a good point that Fusion is fails by making Carpe flex so much and Heesu having to step it up on either the Ashe/Widow or the Tracer. Carpe is actually more likely to match up to Ans than to Striker. The problem is he's also the best Tracer on the team. I think if Fusion had gone against Shock, it would've been close as they wouldn't be able to match the Genji. So the situation would've been reversed. Paris won the game in how they used their roster and their comps. They had the more intelligent plan for Lijiang and Nepal and they weren't their map picks. We lost the mind game on Gibraltar. Amazing match though even if I wanted Fusion to win. I can't wait for the stats labs stats to be out to dig into it a little more.

[@MovieTrialers]

People complain about anything that kills them. It’s not their fault, not bad positioning, game sense, skill, it’s because the hero is OP and needs to be nerfed.

[@ElementalLeaf]

Holy shit this whole plat chat was playing out like normal until the very last segment took on a life of its own

[@jaimecarter7847]

Bro the Philly player cams are heartbreaking. Carpe crying, Sado's head down, fury just flipping his camera down. They were so damn close and just coulnd't do it. I wouldn't even say they choked. They just couldn't pull out that last fight...

[@GreenLightningHood]

Left xnxx to come here. Read one of the timestamps as Paris deep throats the Shock. Still accurate.

[@symbolitical4158]

Lmao

[@ErrorArchives]

this comment has some balls behind it, well done.

[@Ollie-uo9rj]

Wait reinforce that fix a team segment sounds flames please do it

[@aidansilva5277]

when your accuracy is off so you miss the middle part

[@lucascheng8852]

I swear it must have been like 11am? In Korea when the philly eternal game finished, much later than 8. Poor fielder

[@colintudor66]

Genji is super good now. However, I think he will take a small hit in general with the brig nerfs. I think we will probably see some more ana in coming weeks, for the nano blade. Genji will most likely stay meta, but he will be easier to stop now without the brig armor.

[@BuildingHP]

10/10 would fully support dad Bren 👍

[@tyelollipop9542]

Why is everyone counting out carpe just because he had his first quiet game in the whole season

[@michelsoupovair3328]

Tye Lollipop he was incredibly good as always imo

[@tyelollipop9542]

Michel Soupovair I know. They weren’t even considering him as one of the competitors for the shock

[@sarah2604sm]

Drinking Game: Take a shot everytime Matt says "Like" Family friendly version: Do it with Water Have fun

[@tk0208]

my bladder can only take so much

[@Kai-jz5nm]

I agree with Johnny at the end I thought Bren was going to a T-Mobile add at the end

[@gaspardsoulier2282]

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIS LET'S FRICKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Mozts1]

Ben is looking like Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder.

[@lo-fi8481]

Idk if anyone is talking about this but jjonak isnt a good bap so why dont nyxl play mandu anamo? anamo has a good nap and mandu can play a decent brig at the least

[@Rekcha]

So there are two things that always annoyed me about Genji: 1) Deflect is horrendous sometimes. The hitbox is bigger than the animation even after the changes from a while ago, and it feels really bad when things deflect and the projectile looks like it was outside of the animation. Also, similar to defense matrix, due to small amounts of ping, things can hit Genji and still be deflected, which just looks dumb as shit. I personally always hated deflect more than scatter. 2) Exactly what the guys said basically: at close range, with the double jump and fast movement, he can feel really difficult to track. Another minor thing is sometimes it feels like the easiest counters to shut him down (other than Brig) come from the DPS role, so tanks and supports can especially feel this frustration .

[@uvraged9854]

I think after these buffs especially when genji is actually meta in the past you were so used to genji being irrelevant without blade and now he can kill you really quickly in neutral fight so the massive difference must subconsciously also throw people off.

[@freed2519]

Personally I believe blizzard should buff genji's counters rather than nerfing him directly. Buffing zen and lucio so that teams are able to make use of defensive ults to counter blade would help supports feel more impactful, and buffing Winston wouldn't go amiss either since he works with genji but also against him.

[@mexicanmanjohn]

The entire summer showdown was great

[@Fist-hs7no]

I love Bren and his gig cosplay hairstyle.

[@iron_Will]

That “bitchtits” dunk had me *rolling* dude. Also, Bren, this flower shop AU you have *needs* to be adapted for the page or the screen.

[@maxhusaini6400]

Why people remember genjis in lower ranks: it's because the good genji is always on the other team This is a joke

[@yupp8611]

Imagine NYXL losing when they have 2 of the 3 best Korean genjis in the league

[@NaruBrilu]

On top of lip being in on the only games they won Guangzhou also happened to not play genji on those maps too

[@yuandong3310]

Bren has true wisdom. Who appears to be smart might not be truly smart. Who appears to be slow might not be dumb.

[@arvee3451]

Matt got new cam POG

[@benji-mx1hd]

I kinda forsaw the shock losing. Idk something about all of the bm striker was giving Paris especially felt like hubris was gonna get the best of them. That being said Striker was funny as hell to watch