Super Mario All-Stars vs. Super Mario 3D All-Stars

What's the better waste of money?
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[@Kevo6492]

It’s pretty funny that out of all of Nintendo’s treasured franchises, it’s Kirby that’s had the best wide release compilation.

[@bargtv9066]

Kirby Is the best gaming franchise ever so ofc

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

I'm still waiting for that Kirby Game & Watch...

[@oscarzxn4067]

Thanks Hal for that

[@zzyy1934]

Yeah but I'm honestly so surprised they didn't release a new collection game last year for the 30th anniversary

[@Michaelm25]

Of course it was wall made

[@sahaprocks7751]

AT LEAST with 3D All-Stars, they actually changed things in the games unlike All-Stars on Wii where they didn’t even change the SNES controller graphic to a Wii remote

[@Patodeagua213]

And dont included smw

[@joaovictordb20]

except mario 64 is still 4:3

[@Angelo_Youtuber]

hi1!1!1!!1

[@NCozy]

If you count making the games worse as changing them then sure. Well that's not entirely true Mario Sunshine is an alright version and Galaxy is pretty good but Mario 64 is a pretty mediocre version

[@giggymuun]

you see, this is what i mean when people hate on 3DAS

[@AbruptAvalanche]

Fun fact: the version of Mario World in All Stars + World has a totally different sprite sheet for Luigi, not just a different head shape. He jumps differently, he slides down slopes on his knees, and he shoots fireballs from his mouth instead of his hands. Luigi canonically spits fire.

[@aUsernameInnit]

I always thought he was sneezing out the fireballs. Maybe he's allergic to flowers?

[@xandalf64]

He's not spitting out fireballs, he's puking meatballs with spicy marinara sauce

[@FooMantis]

Who spits hot fiyah mon? Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi

[@ramrodbldm9876]

Still doing fun facts in 2023/2024, Got to be a copy/paste clown ps boy

[@thepack9070]

Who said All Stars is canon?

[@jowski808]

My theory for why Mario 3D All-Stars is so bare-bones is that Nintendo heard all those rumors about a 3D Mario collection back in 2020, and just quickly threw something together. Probably not the case, but I think it would be funny.

[@myriadmediamusings]

That plus 2020 being...well, 2020, does make me think that their other huge plans had to be severely curtailed.

[@TokuWaffle]

I imagine the game started development earlier than the rumours, but I think the collection was made *because* of COVID, not releasing that year in spite of it.

[@PScoopYT]

In hindsight, expecting 3D All-Stars to be a remake is quite unrealistic. It's not like Crash or Spyro where they share somewhat similar game styles between games. At most I can see them originally planned to have Galaxy 2, but that's it.

[@genderender]

my theory is that it was an emulator test. N64 emulator, GC emulator, Wii games recompiled with the GPU emulated

[@Raddish-IS-Radd]

​@@genderenderthat actually makes sense, test out your emulator, get your fanboys into buying overpriced trash, win win!

[@BugsyFoga]

The fact the version of all stars with world attach to it is only available to the snes is definitely on the list of Nintendo’s biggest mistakes.

[@MrJgaddis4]

By whose metric?

[@aledandrian]

You can just play Super Mario World by itself

[@KaitouKaiju]

​@@aledandrianBut why not just include it if you're going to rerelease Super Mario All-Stars? You can already play the NES games on their own too.

[@MrJgaddis4]

@@aledandrian that’s what I’m saying, it’s not like SMW is either expensive or rare.

[@cowboyluigi5275]

yeah i really miss the unique sprites of luigi in all seriousness tho, it really is odd that they didn’t include it. sure it adds a game that’s already available on the platform, but that _specific_ version of the game will continue to grow into obscurity.

[@nexuzZX]

i really went through my life happily without hearing scott say “cocktease” and he just took that away from me

[@nintendompower]

i have bad news for you His first sonic video also had "cocktease"

[@koltontaber2879]

They handled Zelda's 25th way better. They had a cool golden Wiimote and the fully orchestrated soundtrack of most of the highlights from the Zelda series, even giving so much love to some of the old 2D tracks.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

That was way more effort than the nothing Zelda's 35th Anniversary got.

[@nitinanku]

@@TommyDeonauthsArchivesTOTK was 100% meant to be there, but got delayed and as a result it got absolutely nothing besides the game and watch

[@TheDerpyDolphin]

I would agree, except personally I feel the ball was dropped HARD with Skyward Sword, which was marketed as being part of the anniversary (I believe it even says so on the case). Honestly Kirby had the best anniversary on Wii, and I’m not even a big Kirby fan

[@voltron77]

@@TheDerpyDolphinBro skyward sword is good though.

[@nicegan8902]

There is actually a very small 1 line of code difference in the all stars physics of Mario 1 and the lost levels compared to NES that affects it exactly how you describe. Naturally romhackers have fixed it.

[@darkfire714]

My theory with the 35th anniversary rumors about a ton of Mario games about to be announced is that the pandemic ruined most of those plans until this year. A new 2D Mario, remakes of the best regarded RPGs, new Princess Peach, Luigi's Mansion port, these would all make sense to announce during said year, along with 3D All-Stars

[@bellboy7809]

... There's no way you're wrong.

[@darealepic]

I think origami king was supposed to be the introduction to the 35th anniversary but the pandemic ruined it so they just made it it's own thing

[@thenonexistinghero]

Nah, they're just cashing in on the momentum of the movie.

[@blayedd_]

It’s on record that the pandemic greatly impacted Nintendo’s plans. That said, all the recent announcements from last year are way too late to have ever been planned for the 35th anniversary. Hell we’re almost at 40 now

[@justyourbud]

@@blayedd_Thanks for reminding me that the pandemic was almost 5 years ago now, making me feel that much older ☹️

[@PatrickGilland]

The real icing on the cake for the Wii version of All-Stars is that it wasn't even the best version, it didn't have Mario World. I think the best comparison for the Wii All-Stars collection would be the Kirby's Dream Collection on Wii, which had a variety of mainline games from the GB to N64, an "on this year" history section, three episodes of the Right Back At Ya anime, and its own unique version of Return to Dreamland's challenge stages.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Only shame is that the Kirby dream collection was not available in EU only in US and Japan for some odd reason

[@LoginJ]

​@@GwainSagaFanChannelsucks to suck

[@johnnyp1986]

Some of the tracks in Super Mario sunshine were actually unable to be stripped from the original game bc the sound effects were put over the tracks, but with the music collection we now have the full raw tracks without any sound effects that may have played during when the song was playing in the games

[@vipr642]

"These ramblers on the carpet." Are my favourite Scott's Stash videos.

[@anonspurdala8714]

i was not prepared for hearing scott say the phrase 'cocktease'

[@dennythejet4284]

I had to rewind it 3 times before I was like... "yup, that's what I'm hearing."

[@Nerdtendo6366]

I swear the hype for 3D All-Stars was so exciting for me. I remember this was one of the first games I was able to get opening weekend and I was hyped as hell

[@goiabexp]

I hadn't played Sunshine yet at the time. This was my first time playing it.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

@@goiabexp same here, and as a fan of Bowser Jr I was insanely hyped

[@name_here0]

All I wanted out of this was sunshine and galaxy because sunshine is the game that I grew up with and I was born the same time as galaxy so I haven’t played it even though my grandma had the soundtrack I have no idea where the game went but she had the soundtrack sooooo

[@Nerdtendo6366]

@@name_here0 the CD came with a special version of the Wii that came with New Super Mario Bros Wii, not Galaxy though. Idk why they chose the specific bundle but I bet that’s why she had it

[@name_here0]

@@Nerdtendo6366 ah that would make sense but dosnt and I didn’t know that so thanks

[@dmk_yt]

The original All-Stars (not the Wii port) is still really impressive to me conceptually. They remade 4 different games with really nice visuals. These were all also last-gen games at the time, and you're getting all 4 of them on one cartridge. While the physics are jankier and I think the original versions of each game are more fun, I think the overall package is fairly impressive, at least from a content/quality standpoint. 3D All-Stars to me has always just felt like a bit lazy and unfinished. They have to pad out the menus with each game's music tracks to give the façade that the collection has a substantial amount of content. Sunshine had game dev assets shown because the developers didn't properly hide them in their emulation of it. Every game varies in its aspect ratio, resolution, and frame rate, which isn't incredibly noticeable, but still feels like something that could've been ironed out with more development time. What really sours 3D All-Stars for me though was the pricing model, having it be a limited run. I don't have an issue with them limiting the production of units to cut costs, or eventually halting production due to dwindling interest over time; I mostly have an issue with Nintendo essentially scaring everyone into pre-ordering as fast as possible to beat the scalpers, especially because of how bad scalpers were during the pandemic era. I don't want to assume Nintendo had ill-intent in this situation, but it does come across as an attempt to boost their fiscal quarter rather than how they framed it as "oh, we're limiting the sale window because this is meant to be a special event for Mario's birthday". I'd say neither collection is perfect, and if I was forced to choose between the two I'd have to choose 3D All-Stars just because there's more content there. But overall, I still have a greater appreciation for what All-Stars could pull off at the time versus what 3D All-Stars did in our modern day. All-Stars felt like a celebration of the Mario series up until that point, while 3D All-Stars felt like the bare minimum Nintendo had to do.

[@PScoopYT]

Regarding the third point: It's how Nintendo treated anniversary stuffs. Even though I also don't agree with the idea. And it's funny how they end up overprinted the physical copies anyway, so even years later you still can get a copy easily. (Same goes for the new Game & Watch units as well, it's clear those were a niche product and it's not so valuable to people that they're gonna buy it from scalpers)

[@nsgames24]

"Let's make more money by doing less work." That's pretty much what 3D All-Stars is to me in a nutshell. 35 YEARS of your number one game series and a collection that was supposed to outline some of his best 3D outings and this is all you've done?

[@jesusbarrera6916]

It's literally the only reason people enjoy 3D ALL STARS... FOMO if the game was still available online they would realize how they were dupped into buying overpriced mediocrity

[@dmk_yt]

​@@jesusbarrera6916 I think the people who enjoy it do so because they like the games included. Most people aren't take an analytical look at the package as a whole, that doesn't matter to them. They often just want a way to play Mario 64/Sunshine/Galaxy, and for many people it does just that. Many people enjoy the collection because of the games included, and that's all they really wanted. For me personally, I saw the collection as underwhelming (especially considering the price tag), but I don't think people who enjoyed it were duped, I just think certain things that matter to me or you just don't matter to that individual.

[@sethsez]

I agree if we're comparing All Stars SNES to All Stars 3D. The SNES title was clearly more ambitious, even if (as you said) I still find the NES games to ultimately be the superior versions. But if we're comparing AS3D to the Wii version of All Stars... oof. No. Sticking a single SNES rom on a disc and charging $30 for it was completely absurd, even with the additional trinkets they included. The ten sound effects on the soundtrack disc likely took up more space than the All Stars rom.

[@zzyy1934]

Nothing will ever beat All Stars + World. First game I ever played and still my absolute favorite to this day.

[@tbishop3342]

Same here - I got a SNES and All Stars + World when I was 8 years old. Such a perfect entry into gaming and the next 10 years after was living through the video game revolution.

[@Shrapnel82]

"An easy way to add value to your package" So Nintendo is behind those emails I keep getting.

[@crispy_asch7110]

You mentioned how you can go to KZbin to listen to all these soundtracks. While true, Nintendo has tried their hardest to make that not true lol

[@gamedestroyer112]

Yep... Because their not good people... I got the last copy from my Walmart about a year or so back, Ironically. Nintendo lied about it being limited... Also... Something no one talks about is that all 3 games are ligit roms of the original games and sold on an emulator cartridge. No joke. If you extract the files... Its ligit an Emulator. Which is funny because Nintendo hates emulation, homebrew, and piracy (which I can understand piracy, I don't agree with piracy either... at least for games still available publicly through the company.) with a passion to the point of sueing anyone they catch... And actually breaking laws to win the cases... At least USA laws from what I can gather of their... interesting history. IDK why they think that they can sue us with their Japanese laws... Homebrew and emulators are legal in the USA... And Nintendo, because it's illegal in Japan, are sueing USA citizens for laws that don't apply to them! Like why...? So in total... Nintendo really really messed up here with the game...

[@joecauthon2988]

The sheer fact that 3D All Stars didn't at least come with a manual never made sense to me

[@gamedestroyer112]

I know right? All we got is a controller menu... That can't even be edited!!!

[@EnigmaBarry]

Kirby Dream Collection was a better collection than Super Mario All Stars on Wii. They included six Kirby Games, New Copy Ability Challenges based on Return to Dreamland including the return of the Smash Copy Ability, a Soundtrack with select tracks from the entire franchise, three episodes of the anime, a virtual museum which showed when every Kirby Game released. It also came with a booklet on par if not better than the one that came with Super Mario All Stars.

[@lel2015]

Nintendo's greedy limited release with 3D All Stars was the worst part of it imo

[@scarpergirl]

I got it for Mario 64 pretty much and was ticked off when about a year later the N64 and Mario 64 came to Switch Online anyway.

[@tiredhippo82]

Yep, I still think that’s one of the shittiest things they’ve done this gen along with mario 35 and the first fire emblem also being killed off.

[@JayMoney11118]

What sucks was me thinking "damn im going to have to buy smg2 separately when they release that. They are so greedy.".......and then they never released it.....wtf

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

3D all stars sells for about the same price online. There were a lot of copies.

[@jaretco6423]

Yeah. I agree. That & the fact Galaxy 2 wasn't added into the collection was also an huge disappointment.

[@BryantheArchivist]

I personally love the choices made with 3D All-Stars. If I could change a single thing it would be for smooth camera controls and/or widescreen for 64.

[@Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi]

They just needed to add galaxy 2 to be perfect

[@LucasThePhantomThief]

It feels…incomplete without it

[@RecoridoLol]

Genuinely not needed. Barely anyone remembers that game besides people who are actual gamers (as in me)

[@Patodeagua213]

Hot take. I prefer galaxy 2 more than 1

[@Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi]

@@Patodeagua213 same

[@KaitouKaiju]

​@@RecoridoLolI really disagree. Most people remember Galaxy 2 levels, and only remember the comet observatory from Galaxy 1

[@Something_Maybe]

They should have a version of 3D all stars with the original all stars + Mario World as the limited edition, and have the normal version of 3D all stars be sold after.

[@reklem2]

I would like to point out that kid me loved the sound effects in the Allstars wii disc, because I could use it in crappy Lego stop motion animations I made in windows movie maker.

[@juiceala]

I feel Scott keeps forgetting both Mega Man the Wily Wars and Sonic Jam did the whole compelation thing back in the day too, not to mention Sonic Compilation on the Sega Genesis. Also in the case of Sonic Jam and Mega Man Wily Wars they both had an extra exclusive game hidden within the compilation, Wily Tower and Sonic World both exclusive to their respective compilation.

[@M9_Prime]

The BS part is that the 3D Allstars is like $200 now because Nintendo said “you can only have it for a few months”

[@Blizzard10_CSGO]

Imagine if they put Mario Paint onto Super Mario All-Stars with all the sound effects and music included in that.

[@faereman]

Just compare the amount of effort put into 3d all-stars to Crash and Spyro's trilogies. It is night and day.

[@gamedestroyer112]

Yeah... Crash And Spyro may not have soundtracks... But they remade the games completely... If ya look at the games remakes to the original, it's vastly different

[@Nerdtendo6366]

3D All Stars will always be one of the most special games to me. The hype around it, the excitement of getting it opening weekend, saving up for the My Nintendo goodies, genuinely a special time for me. I personally prefer it over Super Mario All Stars( especially on Wii)

[@bregowine]

Agreed. Gotta say, despite the lack of extras, the quality of games in 3D-All Stars more than makes up for its shortcomings. It is a compilation of masterpieces

[@jesusbarrera6916]

So FOMO...

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

So you got suckered in by FOMO? What hype? Noone was ever hyped for this

[@okagron]

@@jesusramirezromo2037Yeah, i have no clue what people are talking about, there was no hype for this. If anything there was a lot of disappointment because it was the just original versions untouched when people wanted HD remakes, and massive annoyance because it was just for a limited time to create FOMO. And really nothing was done to make Sunshine a better game. They didn't make the game less linear because in the original you are forced to to do the first seven levels in order to just reach Bowser. Nothing was done to make the power ups less annoying to use like allowing Mario to swtich between Fludd machines on the fly. Those damn blue coins, same for the 100 coins sprites where they can only be obtained in specific episodes. Nothing was done to those shitty levels like the pachinko machine and the lilipad river. Sunshine is riddled with massive problems and nothing was done to improve it.

[@mazda9624]

Something I absolutely hated about Mario 3D All-stars that never gets talked about is that they completely removed surround sound from Sunshine and Galaxy. It really dampened the immersion for me. Also, the lack of sounds coming from the Wii remote was a shame, but I understand why they couldn't bring that audio back.

[@daytonchris8351]

i found a copy of this used at gamestop like 6 or 7 years ago, and always regretted not picking it up. i loved all stars as a kid. i still see it at gamestop sometimes, but the price is like double now.

[@Kipa12312]

I think I prefer All-Stars, but 3D All-Stars having the soundtracks for each game is nice. I still wish Galaxy 2 was included tho.

[@salvatoreocello]

3:34 I was just looking at that 25th anniversary boom yesterday. My baby was taking all my books and comics off the shelf 😂

[@TheTNTerminator]

I like this channel because its reminiscent of Classic Game Room and Ashens, the kinds of channels that got me into retro gaming

[@ajjolly4618]

One of my favorite facts about All Stars on Wii is that apparently it’s so small you can take the disc out mid play and it’ll still work

[@MarcelSOLDIER]

Despite having nostalgia for playing All-Stars on Wii as a kid, I think 3D-All Stars is the better collection because at least you were technically getting brand new officially released versions of Mario games, for better or worse, while All-Stars on Wii played exactly like the SNES version

[@timculhane625]

I totally agree with your comments. I never got a WII, But I used to have mario all stars on the old s n e s back in the day. I was actually playing three d all stars on my switch light yesterday l o l

[@twincherries6698]

Cool pfp

[@ivanniothemannio]

3D All Stars was a part of an incredibly memorable time in my life when I was locked down and unemployed while attending a software dev bootcamp. I played and almost 100% Galaxy and had such a good time doing so. Weird to feel nostalgic about that now since I felt nostalgic about replaying Galaxy at the time.

[@carbvan]

Surprised Scott forgot to mention that 3D All-Stars has N64 and Gamecube controller support for 64 and Sunshine respectively. It wasn't there at launch but it was really cool to see them add that stuff post launch.

[@RayoMcQueen95990]

the fact that they added N64 support WAY after the game was discontinued is still funny

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

​@@RayoMcQueen95990Because they remembered people bought it. Once it was discontinued the bought copies didn't fade out of existence.

[@gamedestroyer112]

I got the game about a year later or so... It felt odd hearing that... I still ain't got a 64 controller... I have a GameCube one, but no way to hook it to my switch.

[@j_man-ob3yp]

I remember getting a re-release of the Wii version of All-stars when I was little. I blew at some of the games, but now I'm good at them.

[@GavGaming15]

this is literally the first video that I’ve seen that doesn’t have the word first in the first 30 comments

[@DCONightingale]

I live in New York. I was in Portland when 3D All-Stars was released, so I cancelled my preorder at Target and bought it on Amazon to be shipped to the nearest Amazon locker to my hotel. Best decision of 2020.

[@Apo458]

1:54 That's a programming flaw. There's a romhack that fixes the issue, the thing is that some programmerr at Nintendo forgot to adjust the Y position of when you hit a block, making you go upwards instead of bouncing down

[@Tom-jw7ii]

What Mario does when he hits a block is exactly the same as in the NES version; the reason it’s different is because in the NES game you would bonk against another invisible block that doesn’t get loaded in the SNES version. There’s a good article about it on cohost by Retro Game Mechanics Explained called “RGME Article #7: Brick Consistency” that goes into detail about it.

[@maccamachine]

Love these types of videos

[@FLYNN_TAGGART]

It was extraordinarily bad timing that not only the Mario 64 decompilation (and subsequent ports to every device on the planet) but also Render96 came out at the same time. It doesn't help that the AI-upscaled Mario 64 assets and Sunshine cut-scenes were pretty blurry, not to mention that Galaxy's emulation had reduced color counts for performance reasons.

[@nameynamename3758]

he really underplays how perfect mario maker is for an anniversary title

[@RPGmario64]

I really don’t understand why Nintendo just doesn’t want to do HD remakes of Nintendo 64 games. A lot of these games really could use the update. It just seems like an obvious thing to do. Games like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time really deserve to be brought to the modern era properly by being completely remade from the ground up with modern HD visuals, updated controls/ movement, and fully orchestrated soundtracks.

[@thomased22legoyodagaming]

I'll always remember that soundtrack CD. My grandparents had it playing in their CD player in their bedroom when we visited. Good times.

[@vp_wrld]

11:29 that DMC 5th anniversary collection is wild 😂💀

[@sadluciofrog]

9:40 the world's first amiibo

[@enigmafour20]

i love the original SNES all stars, it was such a blast playing all the nes mario games on the super nintendo now i can just emulate them :,) how time goes by

[@nerd5]

Would love to see you go over the release edition of Super Mario Maker 1, which had the art book in it. I remember it was one of the first games I ever bought with my own money, and the art book content was great.

[@Kaiber132]

I'm surprised that they didnt include Super Mario world with the wii release of Super Mario All Stars.

[@Coolman13355]

It was already on VC when All Stars wasn't.

[@Kaiber132]

@@Coolman13355 ohhh right.

[@blu3g]

I have a theory that for Mario's 35th anniversary the big game was intended to be Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury but when they heard people wanted a compilation they tried cobbling together something last minute when it wasn't intended to release (at least not at that time)

[@timculhane625]

You make a good point but both games are very very good in my opinion

[@blu3g]

@timculhane625 You have the right to think so, I like 3D All Stars as well, it's just kinda clear that one got a lot more attention than the other and that's what I'm basing this hypothesis on

[@wd5914]

14:06 "it just feels so premium!!" proceeds to show ripped back of box

[@The_Jzoli]

20:55 Nintendo says: "Watch me", and copystrikes every single Mario ost off the face of KZbin

[@GINTegg]

3D All Stars is a great advertisment for Unofficial emulation

[@JordiumZ]

Not really

[@Marc_Araujo]

Super Mario 3D All-Stars def should've had Super Mario 64 in widescreen and Super Mario Galaxy 2...oh and they should've added Luigi's Mansion as an unlockable bonus too.

[@ooochoa]

3d all stars should also pay my taxes

[@AwesomeGamer-om4hm]

I think Galaxy 2 was not included as Yoshi is a full-on motion control-based mechanic. Given that the Spin and Pull Star were remapped to buttons, I recall a bug wherein Yoshi can lock onto multiple things when moving the Wii Remote fast, and pressing B allowed him to eat them all. With this bug, imagine how would Yoshi work without motion controls.

[@EnTiempo824]

$8 for the virtual games on the Wii is crazy. We really got the most of our money and the game, with those prices.

[@smashmaster12]

And then we need to mention the fact that 3D was a limited release that got removed from the digital store for no actual reason and that they then shoved 64 on NSO and it’s the untouched original rom meaning the version on 3D all stars is inferior

[@RealMonkeyLent]

The Diffrences Mario All Stars for SNES remake the 4 nes mario games and they we're just great but 3d all stars just adds widescreen to Sunshine and a port of Galaxy for SM64 it makes me cry so much

[@TheG_Boy]

The soundtracks are actually a pretty big deal since before we had to rely on gamerips for some of them and now we have them in high quality

[@PianistTanooki]

At the very least, 3D All-Stars gave us Super Mario Sunshine’s full OST for the first time. It’d never been fully released, only a handful of tunes in compilation albums. The rest, such as the cutscene music, was never officially released.

[@reddodeado301]

Mario 64's visuals on 3D All Stars arent exactly a filter, they instead just ran the textures through an AI upscaler and made it so the emulator patches/swaps in the upscaled textures on the fly

[@sadluciofrog]

I grew up with the All Stars and SMW on the SNES. Played it for hours and hours and loved every minute of it.

[@togawe]

I'm surprised you didn't mention that 3D all stars was also a limited release, almost certainly because they knew people would pay money for 64 ahead of NSO expansion pass with N64 games getting announced

[@snvvbl]

3d all stars was so thrown together it made me forget about how even more thrown together wii all stars was

[@TheViper4Life]

Honestly Mario All Stars (the OG) is a mandela effect for me. I'm 37 so I was there for it before it released and after and while I didn't own an SNES (I went from NES to Genesis to PS1, been with PlayStation since), I had plenty of friends who had one as well as my little brother. So I remember playing a Mario All Stars that was just the NES games in a compilation...no upgraded graphics or anything, just a re-release with the 4 games on it. Like I remember the same exact menu to choose the game...but the upgrades SNES graphics I don't remember AT ALL. But as far as I know, a Mario All Stars with just the NES releases on it...doesn't exist. And I don't know why I misremember it so much.

[@pizzagroom6221]

imagine refusing to release a compilation just on the off chance that it will drive sales for the original versions instead (edit: versions that have been available for years)

[@Mr._Mints]

The “5” anniversaries are a big deal, unless you’re Bomberman. Then for some reason the 33rd is what’s exciting.

[@myriadmediamusings]

I’d say Wii 2D All Stars is the bigger waste given how it was nothing more than a romdump and something that easily coulda been re released on the Wii VC. 3D All Stars at first glance may seem to have less content, but they at least provide the Switch the opportunity to play a GameCube and Wii game when the Switch still doesn’t have a whole ton of GameCube and Wii legacy content or NSO service.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

All games run of potato PCs, let alone smartphones now You get an even worse lazy dump out of the 3D collection

[@gamedestroyer112]

Uh, good sir or mam ... The games are ligit emulated. Their not remakes at all... The whole cartridge is just a limited emulator chip thing that reads the code... And ofc takes what it reads and emulates the controls to the switch... As well as those edits... Ist literally just an emulator that just reads and rewrites the program... IDK exactly how it works... All I know is it's literally an official emulator...

[@mattwebb2018]

Scott’s stash is a masterclass in maximizing your monetization of content

[@ssmelche]

I have some of those sound effects from Super Mario All Stars Wii CD on my phone. They're great for message notifications.

[@jimmyjackson2393]

Mario galaxy 2 could have been the “Mario lost levels” of 3d all stars

[@Kdawg1287]

I used the soundtrack to this day. I ripped all the sound bites for my text tones for my phone. I got so many compliments from it. So it got some use for how limited it was on content.

[@awakenedcrowl]

I'm not kidding. When 3D-All-Stars released, I thought back to the Wii All-Stars Collection and was like "man, back then, Nintendo was so much better. Look at this awesome collection!". And then I thought objectively about what was actually in that collection. Then I wondered how I didn't feel scammed back then. Like, the booklet was a step up compared to 3D (despite you could argue that we get some cool booklet-like art in the game-loading screens), but even back then, I was more about the game. And only when 3DAS released, it became clear to me, how low effort the actual game they released actually was xD

[@bgjck]

I think why Nintendo didn't add the soundtracks for Super Mario 3D All-Stars to a CD is because most people now don't have a sterio/CD player now or have an old dusty one in their basement that they havn't used in years. Also, 3D All-Stars lets you turn off the screen of the Switch when listening to the soundtracks witch is cool because the Switch is a portable device.

[@wozthescott2804]

I’m replaying Mario Galaxy on switch this video came out at the perfect time lol

[@I_Dislike_YouTube_Handles]

If only Nintendo put as much effort into remakes as they did suing random teenagers pirating their games, they'd be the uncontested GOAT

[@Djay_B]

Thousand Year Door and RPG would like to know your location

[@I_Dislike_YouTube_Handles]

@@Djay_B damn good point, should’ve said “Remasters” instead, my bad :/

[@hajilee4539]

​@@Djay_B Yeah they are seemingly turning things around now, but that doesn't change all their past lazy ports parading as remasters. Seriously though thank God they are actually trying now.

[@Djay_B]

@@hajilee4539 True...but it was still worth it for me since I haven't played 2/3 of the games on the collection.

[@hajilee4539]

@@Djay_B Well then it'd be totally worth it. I still wish they had fully remastered Mario 64. I think it's one of the best 3D Mario games and having it fully remastered would have made it a lot more accessible for newcomers.

[@Nic5Cyprus]

Coughing baby vs Nuclear Bomb

[@poppip10]

boy i can’t wait for scott the woz all stars

[@BasVoet]

The battle of the All Stars!

[@legoboy7107]

The thing with that weird quirk with Mario 1's brick-breaking physics in All-Stars is that that's actually a bug that Nintendo never fixed. What happens there is that they accidentally reversed the direction Mario gets pushed in when he hits the brick, like when he breaks it he's supposed to be sent at x velocity downwards, but instead he gets sent at x velocity but upwards. A bug like this could be as simple as accidentally removing or adding a minus sign in the code, that's how simple it is. There's a fan-made patch for the game that fixes this and it makes the All-Stars version of Mario 1 SO much better, arguably the definitive version of the game at that point (not necessarily for Lost Levels but I'm not gonna get into the details there; basically All-Stars, while it makes Game Overs more lenient in Lost Levels, also makes various other negative changes that harm the game and make it much more frustrating in some parts, mainly 8-3 and the bonus worlds). I highly recommend that if anyone wants to play All-Stars they play with this patch applied, I even applied it to my Wii copy (not the original 25th Anniversary release, the Nintendo Selects rerelease, got it in 2016) though the method to do so is a bit complicated, alongside a few other mods I felt like adding. I wish Nintendo themselves would go back and fix this bug for rereleases of All-Stars, but they never will because they don't want to alter their old games for the sake of preservation. Which makes sense for something like NSO, but the Wii version would have been the perfect opportunity to fix it if they had actually put effort into that release, especially since All-Stars should never have had that bug to begin with back in the 90s. Also this is completely unrelated to the rest of my comment, but to clarify for anyone who keeps saying this, All-Stars on SNES is NOT a collection of remakes, they're not built from the ground up at all: all 4 games are direct ports running nearly the exact same code as the NES versions, just with new sprites, sound, and a save feature added, and a few tweaks made here and there (mostly with Mario 1 and LL, less so with Mario 2 and Mario 3 is nearly untouched). Meaning it's really a collection of remasters, and thus technically the same thing as 3D All-Stars. Hence why many original bugs and even debug modes and unused content from the NES versions are still present in All-Stars, that would not happen if they were remakes. So _technically speaking_ even the original release of All-Stars isn't that different from 3D All-Stars, it just _feels_ a lot more substantial and not remotely as lame. It was still a great collection nonetheless, it doesn't have to be remakes because the NES originals were already great.

[@codyr.48]

You're not wrong about everyone just opening youtube if they want to listen to vgm but.. Nintendo themselves have a recent history of taking down music uploads for their games. If they had their way, the best and most accessible means of listening to the tracks would be 3D All-Stars.

[@DarkbloomVis]

Battle of the All-Stars

[@WDonaldson2000]

Honestly, I still prefer playing Galaxy on Wii from now on. Not only because the Wii Remote and Nunchuk feel more comfortable in my hands compared to the Joycons and even the pro controller, but it’s the little things they removed that make the 3DAS version inferior in my eyes, like the removal of Miis in the file select (I know that’s unnecessary in the first place but adding your Mii felt more like it was YOUR file and not some red plumber guy’s file), the gyro in the pointer going out of sync every minute, and the lack of Wii Remote sounds. I know the Joycons don’t have a speaker in them but the removal of these sounds leaves the game with less oomph. Stuff like the whimsical star bit sounds, the clicking in menus, the loud and in your face launch star noise, these alongside many other sounds make the game feel more magical every time I play it, while the lack of these in 3D All-Stars feels a bit too… empty.

[@pobbityboppity1110]

Yeah but 1080p and non analog video makes up for any of that superfluous stuff

[@AlfredFJones1776]

My cousin had the version of Super Mario All-Stars with World in it but i remember it having the other cover with magician Mario on it.

[@legospacememe8468]

5:00 it was also added to every wii vc release. and my custom NES wii vc injections. and my homebrew emulators

[@truedude]

If you ask me, Super Mario 3D All-Stars has the most definitive versions (officially) of 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy.

[@ilikesonicxbro]

definitely not.

[@Mr._Mints]

I used the 1-Up sound effect from this disc with a Siri Shortcut to make my iPhone make a 1-Up sound when I plugged it in, and the Hurry Up effect for when my battery dropped below 5%!

[@webbedcookie4509]

Thanmyousscortthe wozz I love you so much

[@OperationParlov]

I never thought I’d hear Scott use the term “cocktease” 8:39

[@johnmurdoch8534]

I was so happy when all stars came out. That was my mario 1-3 experience as a kid even though i did see originals with older relatives before..

[@supermariof0521]

It's honestly depressing how Nintendo ALWAYS treats Mario's anniversaries as a joke.

[@jaretco6423]

Yeah. I actually felt more depressed on Mario's 35th anniversary than I have with Sonic's 15th anniversary, even though Sonic's 15th anniversary was worst than the Mario's 35th celebration.

[@gamer3ed484]

I think by the metrics of virtual console, the game is lacking a bit. After all N64 games were usually $10, Wii games were $20 which means GameCube would’ve been about $15. I appreciate the game for bringing down the price of Sunshine in the second hand market. That game alone was at least $50 before. I think just one more big addition would’ve helped. Maybe including 64DS with analog movement or Galaxy 2 would’ve gone a long long way.

[@MazeCuber]

To be fair, when it comes to the announcement to release of Super Mario 3D All-stars i do think that Covid had something to do with it. My Theory is that they wanted to to announce it at E3 (if it wasn't canceled that year) and have the same release date but due to the unpredictability on 2020 in itself, they just waited a bit too long to fully announce it. Again that's just my personal theory, And supposably they had been working on it since February of 2020 since people found a save file for sunshine (i believe) in the game files.

[@gamedestroyer112]

Any idea what happens if ya load said save file?

[@UncannyEXP]

Yeah, everyone just forgets that COVID impacted a lot of the gaming industry for a few years & its no different with Nintendo. On the plus side, they said they'd never do limited releases after this and they have stayed true to their word.

[@yololthepikminenjoyer]

i feel like most of us knew who the winner would be as soon as we clicked this video

[@phorchybug3286]

Well at least I now know what my uncle was playing during that fever dream of a childhood memory. (The 2D one)

[@internettrash5120]

One was a love letter on the SNES and the other was a scam

[@BecauseYNotYT]

Saids a lot about Nintendo that we can have a conversation about which of these releases was less mediocre/ less lazy for something as big as Mario that's kinda sad