Supercar races against Superbike | Supercars 2021

[@CRFLAus]

It's refreshing to read a comment section where people actually understand cars and bikes differences, and that both are great fun to drive and ride.

[@drfeelgood5870]

Looked like the bloke on the bike wasn't even trying. They did something similar in the UK. A British touring car against a British superbike . The bike destroyed the car. Saying that , the race cars over here are kicking out about 350 bhp but probably way half as much as that ozzie touring car . Also the track was more balanced for both car and bike . That track they were on looked more 4 wheel friendly than 2 wheel.

[@buddybestor]

Right, both are amazing machines and superior in their own ways!

[@johanballin6601]

Fun video but a bit silly. He didn’t even drag his knee let alone elbow. That bike with slicks can handle a 62 degree lean angle. He was barely doing 45 deg. The only thing that would have a real chance against that bike with that rider on a race track would be an F1

[@rodrigoneves1607]

@@johanballin6601 An F1??? A formula 1 car obliterates every car/bike on a circuit...

[@chadwells7562]

@@johanballin6601 Yeah he wasn’t really trying, they probably wanted to end the race close to even. I don’t think only a Formula 1 car could beat the bike though. Something else that makes heavy use of downforce would be enough.

[@same8321]

The algorithm will enjoy showing this in 5 years

[@janeblogs324]

During covid25

[@Five_y_kay]

Meanwhile, the algorithm has some different plans.

[@ethanarnold7892]

See you in 5 years!

[@Godric_71]

And i will probably watch it. 😎🏍💨👍

[@cameronlouis6779]

The algorithm is showing it now.

[@SquidRider]

This is the first race I've seen where they actually run both vehicles at the same time down the track vs. one running, then the other in a separate run, then comparing times. Good job! Awesome.

[@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4]

I would of thought the super bike would of destroyed the V8 supercar mustang,

[@kopronko]

If there would be at least some Better car than Ford, that bike would Never catch the car !!! ! !!!

[@Byte_frst7]

Comparing just the times is actually a kinda good comparison if you're comparing the drivers not the vehicles

[@josephbrady711]

2:19 is when the race starts.

[@96SN95]

Thank you

[@phbhf]

On a 6 minute video, it only helps a little. It seems the race is over way too fast, also.

[@josephbrady711]

@@phbhf k

[@glitchmanshandle]

Na i like this Sheila as well.

[@pedapudidiwakar77]

You a legend 🙌

[@deldridg]

Given car and bike relative strengths (corners/straights etc.), it would be interesting to see which tracks go closest to neutralising these differences and which tracks are more favourable to either vehicle. I also wonder how lap 2 would have gone here - probably a little more towards the car with no zero start advantage for the bike. Cheers and thanks for sharing - Dave

[@johnj3577]

This track seems quite a good equalizer. On a twisty track with short straights like this one a car will likely have a better laptime due to being able to achieve higher corner speeds, but on a track with less turns and longer straights, a bike will will have a much bigger advantage and can use its acceleration to more effect. Modern superbikes are as quick as an F1 car up to a certain speed and max out at around 210mph.

[@A_Pt_9298]

It's quite interesting, and a bit funny, looking at a porsche 911 (one of those funny modern numbers) against the superbikes at Nuremburg Ring, but it's all really amateur bikers vs professional drivers, the car driver toyed with him but if they were pro bikers there'd be no contest

[@thenarrator1921]

@@A_Pt_9298 yeah, amateur car drivers can at least have some confidence crashing into things in practice, but I'd be shitting myself if I tried to push my bike as hard as I can knowing if I mess up I'd at the very least tear off a huge patch of my skin

[@vasilisgreen]

@@johnj3577 not even close... An F1 car does 0-300km/h in 10sec flat while a motoGP bike at 9sec. A superbike is around the 15sec mark while a road going superbike is around the 19sec mark. The only thing quicker than an F1car in a straight line, 0-top speed is a motoGP bike. Not including dragster builds of course.

[@duke_9018]

@@DaveFinch435 You summarized it all. lol

[@IkeOzurumba]

almost bet that he ran wide on prurpose. like they 'knew' the car catches him there and attempting a real pass between bike and car is just too risky. also can see him turn his head hard to look for the car like he was expecting it. that aside though. love seeing the strengths and weeknesses of these badass machines!!. as a bikee enthusiast, anytime i see a car even 'somewhat' keeping up with a bike in the straight line always amazes me! very cool!!

[@alimertc]

or he has ears? while braking in, i bet he could hear the car close behind him

[@zeth8776]

Watch other vid like f1 vs superbike(topgear), and you'll see the finish on the line side by side aswell Inshort this sht r just for shows(scripted)

[@kunaladhikari5215]

@@zeth8776 Ye I think you’re right

[@mayankyadav1379]

@@zeth8776 lol u can't ride f1 cars on road or can afford them either

[@mgrant011]

That was cool. I’ve seen a lot of these speed comparisons which are really cool to see where car bike gets it’s speed from.

[@danielcrockett8398]

@@daviddou1408 It's power to weight once moving, it has nothing to do with traction control or any other electronic aid. Having said that, you may be mocking the commentator and with good reason. Did he just refer to a Ducati as an Australian bike?!

[@RoboticPope]

He meant that it is an Australian Superbike championship bike.

[@jonathanm7948]

All the car vs bike videos on youtube are staged and biased because they are promoting the cars. Bikes actually corner faster than they say on car shows. Bikes take a different line which allows for greater acceleration on the exit but a slightly slower mid corner speed. Look up the lap records for this track and the super bike is 1.5 seconds faster than the super car and it is a very short track. The lap records for Laguna Seca show that bikes are a lot faster than production cars. On big tracks the gap would be larger. Also this video compared super cars to super bikes. Moto GP bikes are much faster than Super Bikes and the riders are more talented.

[@jerseyboycustoms]

@@jonathanm7948 all those tracks mentioned majority have more straights than turns. bikes make up SOOO much time in straights. to make it a fair comparison you'd need to look at sector records and corner speeda

[@jonathanm7948]

@@jerseyboycustoms yes, supercars have a slightly higher apex speed (than super bikes but not motogp bikes) because bikes slow down a little so they can power slide at the apex and get full acceleration before the end of the turn. But it is only a very small amount slower like 0.5km/h slower but at the exit of corners bikes are up to 50km/h faster. Bikes begin accelerating hard at the apex whereas cars begin accelerating hard at the exit. That means cars are only a few km/h faster just before the apex for like half a second. On big turns bikes and cars have similar entry speeds. On tight corners bikes drift into the entry of the turn like a rally car meaning they have slower km/h but the drift results in a faster corner. For street legal cars and bikes the bikes are 10 seconds faster than the best sports cars around small tracks with less straights. I don't know what car u drive but whatever it is it is very slow compared to supercars but a street legal sports bike accelerates faster than a supercar and corners faster than any street legal car because bikes have 200 horsepower and weigh 200 kilograms whereas cars have 200 - 300 horsepower but weigh 1500 - 2000 kilograms. Car shows that say cars are faster than bikes are biased because they written to sell cars. Eg. One show said cars stop faster than bikes and used a car with electronics to automatically downshift and stop efficiently and for the bike they made him hit the front brakes in 4th gear without downshifting. Also, they say cars are faster because of apex speed without showing the harder acceleration of bikes immediately after the apex before reaching the end of the turn.

[@jozua715]

congratulations to Wayne Maxwell and his team for breaking the superbike lap record today at hidden valley great achievement

[@petermoderate1920]

I’m into both cars and bikes but although the performance difference on the track was negligible the bike isn’t that far removed from a road sports bike like an R1 for example but the car is a long way from a road going sports car

[@johncarl5505]

Well, superbikes are the equivalent of taking a race car and making it road legal. The only reason manufacturers can do it to a bike and not a car is because bikes are cheap. There are road legal race cars for the filthy rich, no MotoGP bike can touch. Overall cars are more expensive, gasp.

[@petermoderate1920]

@@johncarl5505 True but on the track the car would win, I’d say on the road the bikes agility plus it’s smaller size allows it to take racing lines the car can’t plus ability to nip through gaps etc makes it safer to go very fast on the road ( ignoring speed limits and the safety aspects in this equation of course )

[@54356776]

@@johncarl5505 It's the other way around mate. Superbikes are road bikes that are made into track bikes.

[@mylordass8120]

​​@@54356776 Yep, world SBK bikes are more equilivent to Rally Cars in terms of Homologation. They must be road legal bikes/cars that are sold to the public to be able to participate in racing.

[@antonper9695]

Correcto! Ese coche al final tendrá 900cv y pesará 900 kilos es una moto de coche!!.

[@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO]

The amount of skill these guys have, I've ridden minibikes around a go-kart track with Wayne and the dude is insane, In my single lap he overlapped me twice..

[@Cdog79]

He’s certainly a talent. Watching him ride a super bike is poetry in motion.

[@motordemic]

I would never want to play with a car mid corner. Law of gross tonnage xD

[@59cvlpekhlua75]

If i remember correctly, if weight of object is more than other object, the light object is sure to be crush 🤣

[@joemann7971]

True but he's a professional racer. He could control his car much better than most idiots on the road. Its still scary as hell though. I'm also certain the driver is holding back, trying not to accidentally kill the rider.

[@jordanstark2454]

yeah that riders brave

[@jaysee2213]

DDFN 🤣

[@Ricossmft28]

I think that’s why he ran that corner wide, the car was coming in hot and I think he saw that and was like eff that and moved out the way lol

[@thehastywombat]

Love it. As a Mustang AND a Ducati owner this was great. Really showed the strengths of each format.

[@philroy818]

And as a Mustang and BMW S1000RR owner I agree!!

[@uhtred7860]

Im wondering how much of the Mustang is stock opposed to the Ducati? (by "stock" i mean based on how it left the factory) Aren't the cars in V8 supercars built on a race chassis? Does the mustang race car use a Ford engine or is that a control unit too?

[@MoistGrundle]

As a Honda and a Harley owner, I can't relate haha but as someone who has owned sport bikes and pure muscle, I love some raw power. 🤘🏻

[@Texarmageddon]

@@uhtred7860 in this case it’s mostly a modified mustang. The chassis received the majority of it and the mustang will see enough mods to bump its power up another 100hp or so. I’d probably say the stang has around 550+hp … It’s speed is all suspension/chassis mods

[@gasdive]

@@uhtred7860 no common parts between the "mustang" and a mustang. It's a space frame race car covered with composite panels in the shape of a mustang. It's also running slicks. The bike is a hotted up road bike. Road chassis, replica fairing but all the stressed parts are factory. Same engine, but with a cam and exhaust. Aftermarket suspension, running road tyres. No lights and indicators. Not far off what you might see a very well heeled person ride on the street.

[@kwonwaguespack5739]

This was a really wonderful exhibit for both series, finish was great!

[@johnpakard6386]

One of the best comparisons I've seen. Usually they have completely different catogories, but this one was awesome. Would like to see a two lapper!

[@kennydee8296]

I’m old enough to remember a 1974 match between an SLR5000 and a Kwaka 9, very similar story with the bike faster off the line but losing track position in the twisties, Colin Bond keeping the lead.

[@darryleaston8183]

That's because it was Colin Bond, the best all round race driver Australia ever produced.

[@JayJay-gl2df]

I think a bike would win every time it was on Mount Panorama though

[@AKK5I]

Damn what a spectacle. Of course it's a bit of a showcase and you have to realise that these guys aren't chasing lap times and respect safe racing especially when you have a 2 wheeler and 4 wheeler on the circuit but I read somewhere a NASCAR is around as fast as a MotoGP bike, which isn't too far off from a V8 supercar or a superbike Panigale

[@Streeto_161]

On most tracks the NASCAR has no chance against a Moto GP bike…

[@pullmyniblets]

Moto gp lap record for Phillip Island 127.899 v8 superslug 132.21..They are nowhere near eacother..if a supercar could shave a whole second off a lap time it would be insane...to be moto gp worthy it has to do almost 5

[@rhett7716]

@@pullmyniblets whats a f1 time at phillip island?

[@Mac-dx4rd]

@@rhett7716 not sure about Philip Island but without doubt would win easily F1 is on another level for example at Silverstone is 30 seconds faster, moto gp 1:59.4 and F1 1.27.3, superbikes is around 2:03 which is about the same as a gt3 race car round there

[@Bobby-fj8mk]

@@Mac-dx4rd - the cornering speed is much higher in formula 1.

[@TeamTNTperformance]

A car will always out corner a bike, 4 tires vs 2 and the bike will always have the advantage in the straights with the power to weight ratio. Great example of the two to watch as someone who loves cars and sport bikes.

[@hotchihuahua1546]

Much closer than I thought in this particular combination .

[@dantheman9555]

2:25 "that's traction control for ya" ... haha no pleb that's 1000+ hp per tonne for ya.

[@k20kdog]

Theres not a video game or video like this anywhere , my mind is blown!

[@xAceZiaH]

I really thought the superbike would beat easily the supercar, but when the mustang overcome the bike in such a turn, it is absolutely fabulous ! Damn it made me realise how performant are those cars ...

[@stevenguy2630]

He let Courtney through. Reality is the Ducati would have left him behind had he actually been trying

[@harrycrow]

if you watch maxwell look behind before he ran bike out a little wide was pre planned to demonstrate the power and speed diffence between both bike and car

[@And_rew92]

@@stevenguy2630 reality is, yeah no. A bike will never turn or brake as fast and as well as a car. The lap times were close, but the car is faster.

[@And_rew92]

@@redactedrider7606 pretty sure Moto GP and WSBK have never raced at Hidden Valley...

[@estebanod]

@@And_rew92 wdym the car was faster, you can see the bike win the race lmao

[@markdotcomau]

Unlike most other F1 v supercar V bike races etc on YT this one actually looked legit

[@Greg-sc7zk]

Very well set up, Supercars didn't want to be to embarrassed.

[@realbudman]

Fastest lap of the weekend has the Supercars at 1:04.9 and bikes at 1:05.1. Would you prefer if the Supercar had to brake to not run up the back of the bike in the hairpin?

[@Greg-sc7zk]

@@realbudman Going into turn 4 Maxwell basically waited for Courtney, never even tried to stay on the racing line into the hairpin, stayed out wide leaving plenty of room for Courtney then didn't even try to repass till the straight. If Maxwell was on it Courtney wouldn't have been anywhere near him at the hairpin. If they are going to do these stupid speed comparisons then they need to be both flat knowing the risks.

[@rhett7716]

@@Greg-sc7zk did u read what he said car had fastest time at this track !!!!!

[@Greg-sc7zk]

@@rhett7716 it was approximately 1 second difference between the two in fastest laps. If you're trying to tell me that between the hairpin and the start finish straight the bike couldn't go harder than it did I suggest you hop on a bike and see how hard the accelerate. It probably didn't help Maxwell went wide and waited for Courtney and put himself in the grey area.

[@rhett7716]

@@Greg-sc7zk the racing was over a weekend and a supercar recorded the faster time !!!!

[@Rerags_]

this proves, that sometimes the small things are the most enjoyable ^^

[@rhett7716]

until u drop it !!!

[@daniellarusso8012]

@@rhett7716 Still plenty of fun after you drop it. :P

[@jangabrielreyes4754]

@@daniellarusso8012 sad wallet noises

[@rob1399]

that's what I tell the ladies

[@sambeezy007]

@@rhett7716 That's equivalent to crashing a car. Both are fun in their own ways. It's subjective. I prefer bikes.

[@LTSRIDE24]

Wow!! That's really amazing how a car can hold its own against a bike!! Something that you'll never see happen on the street!

[@yuletak]

On the street, it's all about straight line acceleration, which bikes have a HUGE advantage given the power-to-weight ratio. On the track, depending on the layout, cornering speed matters a lot.

[@johncrow5552]

because on the road, you will never see a v8 supercar. This "race" was comparing an almost stock motorbike against a purpose built race car.

[@DroneStrike1776]

That Duc sounds amazing, so does that sequential gear box in the Mustang.

[@stuart1001]

I was so nervous to see a overtake occur. So dangerous

[@thepsychicpeach8425]

@@sadiqsallah2064 I think he's tires were cold so he couldn't push too hard in that corner or he'd lose the front

[@markfox1545]

@@thepsychicpeach8425 - he's means he is. The possessive is his.

[@Daniel-zo5wz]

Finally, cars vs bike on a CIRCUIT!

[@ChiefRickyRC]

To me this is a masterpiece!!! Words can't show thanks!!!

[@Godric_71]

"It's like a missile following me and im quietly crapping myself". 😎🏍💨👍

[@jangabrielreyes4754]

This min race got my adrenaline pumping. Great race !

[@tcmx712]

Anything to keep Supercars relevant haha, honestly amazed it's still around

[@SupernaturalPowerz]

Because they're awesome

[@ljnouata9088]

Just as boring as SuperBikes 😂

[@Siberius-]

It's not my cup of tea, but what do you feel is a better alternative? or, why is it amazing in your view?

[@niceblue7296]

@@ljnouata9088 Shows you have Never ridden a superbike...

[@Kismetix]

Absolulely fantastic race, really a thrill to watch from start to finish!

[@glennO-e9r]

Production bike vs non production car? Get a road going Mustang as see how it goes?😂

[@heinervogt4484]

Mustang's driver would see the tail of the bike from start till end !

[@jaromor8808]

And what would be the point of such race? So maybe STFU Glenn?

[@zlyable]

He won’t be seeing it by the end.

[@rohitdas7698]

That is not a production bike

[@kignacio]

@@rohitdas7698 I agree it is not a production bike, but it could be argued that the modded mustang is vastly superior than the street model whereas bikes don’t benefit as much from money being thrown at them.

[@Shadowdancer777]

That was closer than I thought. Expected the bike to beat him by a mile.

[@sadiqsallah2064]

On a drag strip, of course. But that's the nature of 2 wheels Vs 4, the car can brake much later and harder into corners.

[@johanballin6601]

@@sadiqsallah2064 I think you need to look at the actual statistics. Your statement is not true.

[@ghosts-dx6nw]

@@johanballin6601 Someone has posted the best lap times at certain tracks in the comment section, seems like cars beat bikes by a couple of seconds, I was surprised as well.

[@UFO-047]

@@johanballin6601 with bikes there is a maximum speed you can go around around a given radius corner, regardless how good a rider you are, its physics. The faster you go the more you must lean to turn, you can only lean a certain amount. With cars the limit is traction. With low center of gravity and wide sticky tyres a well setup car can pull much higher Gs and carry much more speed through a corner then a race bike with the best rider in the world.

[@fattymcgee123]

@@UFO-047 and brake way, way later. And brake harder, too.

[@bhtradinggroup5340]

Both are extremely fun! But I’d hands down choose a bike over a car any day! Bikes, no lie, are a new level of freedom feeling!

[@youareawesome5236]

That was awesome, I thought the bike would kill it.

[@Godric_71]

Neither were really pushing it. No sense in getting someone injured during an exhibition. It would be very interesting to watch them go at it for real. 😎🏍💨👍

[@sadiqsallah2064]

@@Godric_71 only real way to test that would be looking at separate lap times tbh, the rider could have easily just stuck to his apex, and the car wouldn't have been over to overtake not cuz of skill, but rather just fear of hitting the rider.

[@Godric_71]

@@sadiqsallah2064 It's curious why they wouldn't do that. Just to know as a fan, which is truly faster. 😎🏍💨👍

[@johnfretz1938]

The gear whine, the exhaust note, awesome.

[@zero_stars]

Main difference: one vehicle costs about 1/3 less than the other.

[@changes4339]

Lmao how much do you think the car cost??? Motogp 2021 bikes cost 1 million+ dollars

[@josipva]

@@changes4339 That's not a MotoGP bike

[@zero_stars]

@@changes4339 that's a world Superbike, in other words a bike anyone can buy with some mods. That mustang shares nothing with a stock mustang... maybe mirrors.

[@changes4339]

@@josipva ah my bad thought it was Ducati’s new motogp bike I was wrong. Still expensive 50k stock bike

[@ryshawn87]

@@changes4339 yeah it’s way more than 50 k they cost almost the same as far as how not stock they are

[@adpop750]

If people see these kinds of videos, where race-car and a race-bike have similar speed, some of them think that the road versions of the bike and car also are in the same ballpark in terms of speed. But guess what, they are really not. If you would take the road legal version of the Ducati super-bike it will be only a few seconds behind the superbike and supercar, after one lap. Whereas if you would take the road-legal version of the supercar, it would be already almost half a minute behind these guys, after a lap. On top of that the road version of the supercar would be an extremely fast road legal car. Whereas the Ducati indeed is fast road-bike, but nothing exceptional, dozens of bikes on the road that are similarly fast.

[@Bdavk]

I went to school with both these guys.

[@kaonashi4693]

Wow, just wow. Great job for both the driver and rider.

[@michaelslee4336]

Thanks for the little message at the bottom indicating it was done in a controlled environment with professionals, I wouldn’t have known otherwise. Maybe next time follow it up with “don’t try this at home kids”.

[@RennieAsh]

Yea you want to make sure the kids have their own race track and super tricycles before attempting XD

[@Zainphotography]

Well orchestrated race. Of course, Australians will not let a bike beat their dying super car on their land.

[@rabidsminions2079]

Imagine trying to do 1000km on a bike at Bathurst.

[@JHV166]

So glad you put that disclaimer in the beginning. I was going to ask my neighbor to take his supercar down to the High School Track and race me on my 125... SMDH

[@Cl4rky]

Biggest gee up. Maxwell opened the door and went wide in the corner. Then made up 100m when hit the final straight in a second, then coasted so they crossed at the same time 🙄

[@JayJay-gl2df]

Do you think it was intentional that he went wide it kind of looked like it

[@rgoeman9368]

Cars of similar classes are much faster than bikes, but this guy wasn't even dragging a knee through 60% of the lap. Was like watching the "B" class of a track day the way he blew that turn. Good show in absence of everything else!

[@manonthebrain]

Loving all these side shows!

[@alphenhousplaysgames4565]

this was way more close than i thought. and this was hella cool at only a lap. now i want mixed races.

[@bryanhenderson736]

Id be real keen to watch this match up at Bathurst

[@MrKdr500]

Bathurst is too dangerous for bikes, not enough runoff on some corners.

[@bryanhenderson736]

They use to back in the day, on bikes that were more dangerous. Just ask old mate that had Forrest Elbow named after him

[@rhett7716]

@@MrKdr500 super bikes dont do bathurst ??

[@gregdcross]

It's very simple in these race car vs race bike comparisons; Power to weigh: bike Cornering grip: car To get a close finish you need to have a balance of corners and acceleration out of corners to meet at the finish line. If this "race" went 10 laps, the car would continuously get a larger gap ahead. Same happens when you do a top fuel drag bike against a top fuel drag car. Bike has an advantage first 1000', then the car overtakes. Why? Bike has one rear wheel and shorter wheelbase where of you apply too much initial grip it flips over. Top fuel dragster is long and takes a lot more torque/hp to flip it and once it is past 1000' air flow sticks it to the ground.

[@petersajkic6749]

Top fuel car also has about 8000 more hp

[@strathruncie]

That was a beautiful run there, and it's nice to see one of these speed-comparisons done from a scratch start for once. But to be honest, it's sad that the ‘do not try this at home’ disclaimer was even necessary. One would think people would take that as read, but we can't be sure of that anymore.

[@And_rew92]

They put "do not eat" labels on shampoo...

[@0Zolrender0]

I hear you mate. Dispite the fact this is obviously being done on a closed racetrack they have to still put that there so they cannot be sued if idiots try to copy this.

[@larjkok1184]

@@And_rew92 Do they?

[@bbbildhuu]

Boomers always find a way to complain

[@gregrowe1168]

And Rew and cans of paint. Because paint looks so tummy you know.

[@MikeTheBike58]

You triggered a few car lovers with this.

[@jimmartin9704]

Brilliant, just Brilliant

[@eaglestrikeman194]

the slipstream on a bike behind a v8 supercar has to be insane!!! :O

[@Not_A_Cat]

Bikes can't brake or turn like a car. Cars don't accelerate as fast. Comes down to the tyres contact patch with the road.

[@Not_A_Cat]

40kph difference at the end of the straight. The car has 10kph advantage on final corner exit and the bike overcomes it VERY quickly.

[@And_rew92]

The bike also weighs more than 1000kg less than the car, and has the far superior power to weight ratio and a hell of a lot less drag.

[@davothegreat9990]

All depends on the track

[@rhett7716]

@@davothegreat9990 who would be quicker at bathurst ?

[@davothegreat9990]

@@rhett7716 Mount Panorama circuit, bike easy. The two long straights would overwhelm the supercar.

[@joelyjowell3]

Ouuushit !! Dint expected the car passing on that curve

[@johnmcdonald1293]

Man that was good love it.

[@rayjaymor8754]

I did not expect the supercar to even be competitive with the bike - I'm legit amazed...

[@luckylarrikin1439]

A 3 lap race would be more interesting; but thanks for this one anyway.

[@larjkok1184]

The bike would have won by more. He made a mistake on one lap and still won.

[@JayJay-gl2df]

@@larjkok1184 I was looking at the corner over and over where he ran wide and it almost looked intentional but it could have been legitimate

[@curtisssmith5204]

The car would have won handily in a three lap race. Remember, it was a standing start. The bike had a huge advantage. But, subsequent laps would have favored the car since beginning on the second lap, the car is up to speed.

[@sgtGiggsy]

@@larjkok1184 He didn't make a huge mistake on his lap, and by the end of lap one he lost all of his adventage that he had in corner 1 lap 1. By design a bike accelerates better and is faster on the straights but much slower in the corners. Maybe an oval track would be a fair fight, but a regular track with several corners will always favor the car. A bike simply cannot have the cornering speed of a car (talking about same level vehicles of course). It's without a doubt that cornering with a bike is way more fun, but talking strictly about the efficiency, cars win. For example, lap records from Circuit de Catalunya*: MotoGP 1:45.969 Formula Renault 2.0 1:43.555 LeMans GTE 1:45.529 Formula Renault is a development league for drivers before F3 or F2. LeMans GTE is a touring car championship. While MotoGP is the absolute pinnacle of motorcycle racing. And MotoGP times are in the league of them, not the absolute best of race cars. *Note: the previous Grand Prix layout that used to host F1 races between 2007-2020 and hosted two MotoGP races in 2016-2017, the current official records are different as neither uses that layout anymore.

[@Officialnrb]

@@sgtGiggsy How about Isle of Man lap record?

[@TheRVConnection]

Very responsible pass by Courtney...great little race

[@juniousfelder2085]

That was an awesome race. I love Ducati motorcycles.

[@PM-qi4mh]

So does everyone, but unfortunately China is beating Europe UK and America on reliability. What an embarrassment.

[@SoulRocketMan]

@@PM-qi4mh china numba one

[@fattymcgee123]

@@PM-qi4mh what Chinese bikes?

[@PM-qi4mh]

@@fattymcgee123 I guess you didn't know most Yamaha and Honda bikes are made in China.

[@starlord7636]

This an amazing channel where has this been all my life.(I'm a prototype and Formula one fan but this is amazing)

[@Brad-kq9oc]

It would be interesting to time the opening laps of both vehicles in their actual race and see how much sandbagging is done. Got a funny feeling the bike might be long gone in reality on a track like this.

[@mad082sss]

The v8s are faster on this track based off lap times from during the races of both categories, but the difference is small. A big open track like Phillip Island and the bikes are much quicker. Would be interesting to compare Bathurst though. 2 long straights for the bikes to gain time, but they would lose so much time over the top of the mountain

[@Brad-kq9oc]

@@mad082sss Yes I know this. As I said, the opening lap. From a standing start .

[@rhett7716]

@@mad082sss not sure about a superbike at the island being faster someone else posted that an old falcon actually faster than r1 yami !

[@mad082sss]

@@rhett7716 i just looked it up. MotoGP lap record is 1:28.10. V8 supercars is 1:30.99. Moto2 lap record is 1:32.6, so even they aren't far off the v8s. If you drop down to the superbike categories (which are just modified production bikes) then the records are 1:29 for the world superbikes and 1:31.8 for the Australian superbikes. So they are a touch slower, but they are still faster than the second tier v8 supercars category. The GT3 category cars are a few seconds faster than the bikes though, and faster than the v8s

[@rhett7716]

@@mad082sss ok thanks for that👍

[@crazy8sdrums]

I expected the bike to smoke the car...expectations dashed!

[@RY4NP]

That was rad

[@0Zolrender0]

This is the most 80's comment I have ever read.

[@RY4NP]

@@0Zolrender0 haha, I was born in 84

[@0Zolrender0]

@@RY4NP You Sir.... Win the internet for the day

[@TheClunkingFist]

Wow. Don't know much about bikes, but I would have picked it winning by heaps. So pleased the car was sooo competitive. But when they said "The car breaks so much later" makes so much sense, all that rubber. Supercars are soooo cool. My fav motorsport.

[@And_rew92]

Even without traction control the bike would destroy the V8 supercar off the line any day of the week.

[@trevormcdonald586]

just about any bike over 250cc will beat any car off a line, 50 times lighter so youve made no distinct point at all

[@And_rew92]

@@trevormcdonald586 there was no point to make. I was merely contradicting Tander who was trying to make it seem like the only reason the bike destroyed the car was because of Traction Control.

[@And_rew92]

@@trevormcdonald586 and btw, the bike weighs about 200kg and the car about 1,400kg. That's 7 times, not 50.

[@rhett7716]

@@And_rew92 the traction control makes a big difference !!

[@And_rew92]

@@rhett7716 it really doesn't though. It's a lot harder to get a bike to spin the rear tyre on launch than a car.

[@aaronalagos45]

Cars dont have to decelerate more in corners compared to bikes due to it having more traction being wider(doesnt have to decelerate to aquire balance and traction) while bikes need lean and decelerate to keep balance

[@CSLFiero]

how do the operators contrain themselves to a single lap, I'd insisnt on more if it's going to be like that.

[@hyperx72]

Safety likely, wouldn't want the biker to push himself too hard and into the heavy weight of a mustang.

[@ReeceCoza]

Very interesting to show case the importance of cars handling, many bike owners I know gloat on their cheap and powerful bikes but yet remember they lack the massive balls these professionals have and the 4 wheel grip

[@Platesmasher]

I feel like I just watched a cult in action

[@ghosts-dx6nw]

What do you mean?

[@flashbacka1122]

@@ghosts-dx6nw cheese

[@josephjocson1385]

we can all agree the sound they produce are beauty

[@marsel108]

Just remember there would be no competition if he was on an h2.

[@joumiron]

Yea because a h2 is way slower than a wsbk bike

[@marsel108]

@@joumiron funny joke🤣

[@joumiron]

@@marsel108 h2r is faster on a straight line yes, but nowhere near on a circuit

[@marsel108]

@@joumiron bro who told you that😂 it's all carbon fiber and spect out for the track and with some more mods and good driver it's unbeatable. It could easily beat that bike. It's a $65,000 bike, do your research before throwing stuff out like that.

[@joumiron]

@@marsel108 well a world superbike is the second fastest motorcycle on a track, first is a motogp bike, with like 2 second différence. Yes the h2 is more powerfull, but wich the supercharger its also quite heavy.

[@rajuday1161]

I thought the bike will win without even getting much competition from the car but it was completely shocking for me. I just loved it.

[@crunchytheclown9694]

One man has a set, the other likes to think he did

[@Brocep]

People in the comments saying a stock R1 or GSXR 1000 would fair better, except that Ducati is a heavily modified and tuned Superbike. R1 top speed est is 186mph, that V4 Ducati has an est top speed of 218mph, as well as weighs nearly 50lbs less. 🤯

[@johncrow5552]

The bike will cost you 30K, the car 500K.

[@v8soarer1991]

Add a "0" after 32K retail $$ for the bike setup

[@johncrow5552]

@@v8soarer1991 the bike that came 3rd was according to the commentators, "the dealer ran it in for 100 kms, the bike was delivered and race fairings put on". No way a superbike could cost 320K.

[@mikeynoclass8240]

@@v8soarer1991 what? This superbike is near enough stock. It isn't a Moto GP bike

[@v8soarer1991]

@@mikeynoclass8240 Ah ok motogp 4 million to buy a bike moto2 750,000 moto3 500,000 That was as of 2020 pricing

[@mikeynoclass8240]

@@v8soarer1991 yeah, these bikes are nothing like that. They're production motorcycles that are set up to race, basically something you can purchase yourself from the showroom. A motogp motorcycle is a prototype designed for racing only, sort of like a Formula 1 car on two wheels.

[@rubenoctave4156]

This would have been awesome to go against, but terrifying in the turns.

[@AndrasMihalyi]

I laugh my @ss off, you guys really think it was a real race ? They decided before the race, where the bike goes wide so the car can pass safely and the close finish too... This race is real like a 3$ bill. This proves, people believe anything on the internet... 😂

[@daniellarusso8012]

Where's your evidence that it was staged? By your own reasoning I have to doubt your claim, bcuz this is the internet... :)

[@PrayogiCristian]

Just looked it up at lap record. Hope you never believe the internet and then of course never watch youtube

[@AutoDIY]

Well that was SUPER cool, I am glad the KZbin algorithm got me here.

[@mcrennagade873]

Very staged, but very cool still.

[@RyRyMTD]

May be staged for this but in reality their fastest times over the weekend are only separated by around 3 tenths in favour of the Supercar.

[@Chiaroscuro22]

True. A rolling start would have provided a more accurate comparison.

[@gatti493]

wow that was absolutely awesome !

[@GriffDawg94]

Why not just do it properly, typical supercars aus staging everything

[@garrett69]

? Much better than any American motorsport.

[@someguy5035]

This is the kind of stuff people like to see.

[@jeffestrada6857]

Bikes are always faster 👍 and ten times more skill to ride!!! Anyone can drive a car 👎

[@garrett69]

I suggest you ask for an opportunity to drive a V8 Supercar then. You'd be surprised just how difficult race cars are to drive. I've raced cars (professional) and bikes (amateur) in the UK. Although there's more skill involved in racing a bike, the cars are harder to drive consistently over a full race.

[@jeffestrada6857]

Steve Wood I used to race cars myself in my younger day, and later on in my life bikes. Its a generalisation, but its very true cars are easy to drive compared to bikes. Skill in racing a bike is at least 90% rider 10% machine, in a car the opposite. You talk about consistency -are you trying to tell me its easier to consistently lap on a bike than a car in a racing environment ??? Your entitled to your opinion, but anyone in the racing world knows bikes are harder in EVERY aspect particularly consistent lap times,so totally disagree Have great day 😉

[@And_rew92]

Hate to tell you Jeff, but you can't compare bike vs car, it all comes down to the track and the vehicle. Look at the Mugello times for F1 vs Moto GP (both are the most extreme examples of race vehicle), 1:18.8 for F1 and 1:46.8 for Moto GP. Just like Hidden Valley last weekend, the fastest lap for a Supercar was a 1.14.9 and for the bike was a 1:15.2. But hey, anyone can ride a bike too. Just like driving, all it takes is training and practice.

[@jeffestrada6857]

And Rew Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line. Racing is a totally different proposition but you wouldn’t know because you have never competed. Anyone can drive a car on the road and competitively as it requires far less skill. If you read my message thoroughly you would understand that i raced both You seem fixated on lap times, it has nothing to do with it. Motogp bikes are slower in lap time, but probably 5 times the skill in riding them compared to any form of car whether its touring car or F1

[@BikersBitz]

Great display of the differences between cars and bikes. What I surprised is how quick the 600bhp odd V8 can muster along the straight, the bike wasn't that much quicker although has the punch out the corner, simple weight that. Good video Supercars :-)

[@crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641]

We need a new competition, 30 car's, 30 bikes, couple of bus's and an old lady with a shopping trolly .

[@RennieAsh]

I used to play a gp500 game, playing the role of old lady with trolley by parking my bike in the middle of a long straight to see how high the rider went when the npcs crashed into him lol

[@cranknbank2366]

I know I’m late commenting to the video but this is awesome.

[@jpx9994]

you gotta admit superbikes take a lot more balls

[@satariel8652]

and endurance, after running on a motorcycle, you are super tired.

[@jpx9994]

@@satariel8652 fr, I take my bike to work sometimes but i have to have the energy for it lol

[@georgeclassic6688]

Production car Full modified 1000hp with straight gearbox (I think the only factory part on it, is the shell), Production bike with paintwork and stickers (of course they set it for the specific track).

[@morthskarampouzouklis8561]

As a biker i am surprised bike won in such a tight track didnt expect it

[@sambeezy007]

Same

[@fanghicheck]

that was COOL . thanks

[@neilreid2298]

Instructed road racing- the bike will win the straight line up to about 140mph or so, after that, the car wins because of aero. Corner entry speed again goes to the bike but apex and corner exit speeds are much higher in the car. Braking similar but all in all, a proper road race car will win 100% of the time against superbikes. Alway fun to watch though.

[@seanbirtwistle649]

maybe 30 years ago. that bike stock gets to 120mph in 6 seconds 186mph in 14sec. its got 220hp. v8 supercars max out at about 186mph, less than that bike off the showroom floor. cars just go around corners faster

[@eddieandrews3335]

Each track has its own track record by different vehicles. Bay park record was held by supercarts yet its main attractions were touring, formula ford, truck and big bangers

[@Adogsmate4267]

C Now that's a race I would like to see. Full blown GP bike up against a full blown supercart.

[@DesmoProfundis]

Yeah, I wish they had done a lap and then started the race. Even with the warmers on, those tires weren't hot enough to take on 4 wheels of grip right off the line.

[@tobemax1880]

Wow, that's so awesome 👏👏👏 i love them both super car ford mustang and super bike ducati 🥰

[@nandansho]

Omg the Mustang sounds Insane and the Super Bike🥴I am so geeking out.

[@grider2010]

Loved it!! That was awesome by both driver and rider!