What If ONLY Cedric Touched The Tri-Wizard Cup | Harry Potter Film Theory

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp - go to betterhelp.com/super to get 10% off your first month.
Get 20% off your first monthly box when you sign up at bespokepost.com/super
Come see us at RTX!
purchase.growtix.com/eh/RTX_A...
Today Ben dives into the Wizaring World of Harry Potter to find out what woud have happened if ONLY Cedric touched the Tri-Wizard Cup and was transported to the graveyard to face Voldemort?! Would he still die? Would Voldemort return at all/?
#supercarlinbrothers #HarryPotter #WhatIf
Edited by :: Riley Murtagh
Carlin Brothers Coffee & Merch ►► carlinbrothersmercantile.com
J vs Ben ►► bit.ly/2I5xHee
Harry Potter Theories ►► bit.ly/2K2Rtru
Super Carlin Gaming ►► bit.ly/1CRM5Bq
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BECOME A SUPER CARLIN FRIEND➜ / supercarlinbrothers
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
FOLLOW US:
P A T R E O N ➜ / supercarlinbrothers
J's V L O G➜ / jonathancarlin
T W I T T E R➜ / jonkerlin & / scb_ben
I N S T A G R A M➜ / jonkerlin & / scb_ben
F A C E B O O K➜ / supercarlinbrothers
G A M I N G ➜ bit.ly/1CRM5Bq
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Want to send us something?
Super Carlin Brothers
PO Box 4339
Roanoke, Virginia 24015
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Business Inquiries Only: [e-mail]
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Intro Music Created by RKVC
/ @rkvc
Intro Animation Created by J. Cutt Productions
/ @j.cuttproductions
Every time you give us a thumbs up a Narwhal gets its horn! (maybe..)

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

Who are we seeing at RTX this year?! purchase.growtix.com/eh/RTX_Austin_2023

[@seankiesser6356]

Doesn't the person being impersonated via polygeus potion need to be alive?

[@jonathancrosby1583]

Hey why didn't the trace ping harry as being in the graveyard

[@themonotonousmaker378]

BetterHelp.... Seriously, again.

[@ahuman3755]

please address the betterhelp situation

[@mreevee7785]

@Sean Kiesser No, moody only needed to be alive so that crouch jr. could continue to harvest his hair as it regrew.

[@cerebraltr6798]

"HUFFLEPUFFS ARE WINNING TOURNAMENTS?!” LITERALLY MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD

[@charleslee8313]

As a Hufflepuff, I took offense to that! But... it would be something Voldemort would say.

[@cerebraltr6798]

@@charleslee8313 same my friend, he does love a slytherin champion

[@Joker-51]

​@@charleslee8313 I was dying of laughter when he said that. Still can't blame Voldemort for being surprised, we've been concealing our true power waiting to overthrow the other three houses. Forget Harry and the Goblet of Fire, the title for this movie should be Cedric Diggory and the rising of the Hufflepuffs.

[@BauerandBagwell]

As a Hufflepuff, honestly same. Proper laugh out loud moment

[@getBhavinShah]

@@charleslee8313 yes same

[@dkcunderwaterlevelmusic5021]

The bit with Cedric happily giving his blood to Voldemort was hilarious.

[@corgimom5626]

Literally in tears

[@dumflame]

Funniest thing ever

[@Mayt5987]

IT WAS SO DUMB, BUT I COULDHEAR THE JOY IN HIS VOICE WHILE DOING IT AND AAAAAAH

[@ashwinajay9562]

what if he drank voldy's blood instead

[@mardy3732]

And ofcourse Cedric would be type O-.

[@zobiah1]

I think the being able to physically touch harry thing was more about proving that he is stronger than love, considering dumbledore always rubs it in voldemort's face that he doesn't understand it / its strength

[@dowfreak7]

Yeah, this is the one. Voldemort places a lot of importance on the "arcane" aspect of magic and he always has. He's not making salt grain horcruxes and sealing them under the ocean, he's not using physical means to immediately kill Harry without chance of repercussion (just drop the baby, dude), he's not content with an arbitrary amount of horcruxes; All of this adds up to his horcrux plan being found out, the identity of the horcruxes becoming apparent and essentially every defeat he ever suffered to be at the hands of his own hubris. If Voldemort was more logical, he'd have easily killed Harry and conquered Britain, before getting squashed by the rest of the world, as the real life events that inspired his faction have been squashed.

[@uzwla]

​@@dowfreak7Bro, you wrote an essay for a reply.

[@rafaeltapia5099]

This whole video revolves around Cedric being the nicest person there is. Going back to the video where they said he is a true neutral really cracks me up now.

[@Dreadjaws]

Don't even get me started on The Cursed Child...

[@yawninglion1677]

@@Dreadjaws Look, Cedric is just so kind that he decided to help Voldemort the underdog

[@b_rabbit]

@@Dreadjaws The Thing That Should Not Be Named

[@alfonsuskristo1624]

@@b_rabbit Too late, the Death Eather got him already

[@_Fizel_]

@@b_rabbit Except for Scorpius. The precious bean can stay as long as he wants.

[@nicoleadel]

Can I just say I absolutely love the plot where Cedric Hufflepuffs so hard that he willingly shares his blood, and the voices you did for that imaginary scene were perfect

[@mikeregester25]

When it comes to Quirrell trying to kill Harry physically, I always thought it was because he knew that Voldemort was struck down when he used magic to attack Harry as a baby. Maybe he was just scared he’d be destroyed too.

[@omarhisham1745]

you have a point🤔

[@abraham2172]

Youre right! Quirrel is smarter and more capable than people give him credit for.

[@PerovNigma]

"Well, there's no first-floor window to throw him out of, like people have said the Dark Lord should've done... I guess strangulation will do."

[@ian7064]

Personally I've always thought Voldemort's plan was to be resurrected, unalive Harry, then use the portkey to transport himself, his followers, and Harry's dead body back to the start of the maze where he would announce his triumphant return by taking out as many important professors and ministry officials as possible. I could see Voldemort doing this bc he does something similar in deathly hallows after taking Harry's "dead" body back to Hogwarts to gloat about his victory. Plus, he still has barty crouch Jr disguised as Mad Eye amongst the crowd. He'd be an excellent candidate to hit Dumbledore or the minister of magic with a death curse since his cover hadn't yet been blown. Though I do really like the idea of Voldemort disguising himself as Harry to infiltrate Hogwarts. It feels like something he'd do

[@jorg3023]

Killing Dumbledore looking like Harry is totally a thing I see him doing. Then escaping with "Moody" without people realizing it was him, great plan actually.

[@lesliebrown5721]

You should watch supercarlin video about what the plan would have been if voldemort managed to kill Harry in the graveyard. It is a great theory. They surmise that they would have had worm tail take polyjuice potion to look like Harry and send him back via porky because he has a lot of knowledge of Harry and his friends from his time as Ron's rat Scabbers. I do not think that voldemort and his death eaters would have taken the porkyback because because in the 2nd book one of the advantages Voldemort has is that nobody believes he is back. Also I do not believe Voldemort would go back to where he knows Dumbledore and a bunch of very capable professors, witches and wizards would be and because he is afraid of Dumbledore and he knows Dumbledore could defeat him in a duel.

[@tjhall1000]

doubtful tho, none of the returning death eaters were even prepared to do such a thing, they literally just learned he was alive, and show up while being skeptical. they def werent in a battle ready state of being. voldy is smarter than that to throw unprepared people into a fight, not to mention even voldy wasnt sure how many were still loyal

[@ian7064]

@@lesliebrown5721 See now that makes more sense. Worm tail would be ideal since he's spent several years learning about the trio. As cunning as Voldemort is, I think he'd have a tough time blending in around ron and Hermione long enough to take out Dumbledore. Frankly I think Dumbledore would see through his disguise. With worm tail posing as Harry, Voldemort could continue gathering Intel whilst also rebuilding his forces behind the scenes as he does in order of the Phoenix. Yeah this one makes the most sense

[@Levacque]

They clearly never intended to let anybody know that he was back. Secrecy is their entire schtick.

[@Thunderbender18830]

I thought Voldemort couldn’t harm Harry at all because of his mother’s protection, that’s why the Avada Kedavra rebounded when he used it on Harry as a baby. That’s why he went through all the trouble of getting his blood, not just so he could physically touch him. Which means he wouldn’t just go through with his plan using Cedric instead of Harry because he still needs to be able to kill Harry which he wouldn’t be able to do if he didn’t use Harry’s blood to come back.

[@KiryuZer0]

I thought the same glad i wasnt the only one.

[@aastikbansal7254]

That's right 👍

[@Chiranjeev1980]

Same thoughts...now this just making content for sake of it... No thought went into making this video

[@jcalhou4]

Exactly what i thought.

[@bobmyers7030]

Yep.... Love Carlin Bros videos, but this one's just completely wrong.

[@6666Imperator]

personally I always thought that the Cup was a portkey but normally meant for the winner to appear in front of the maze and then the teachers and other adults involved would go and get the other Champions out of the maze. So maybe Crouch jr. just put a second portkey spell onto the object and the newer one triggers first? Also in the book (I just started it again yesterday) Wormtail asks Voldemort at the beginning to use another person than Harry, saying that he thinks that it would work with anyone but of course Voldi wants to kill 2 birds with one resurrection potion

[@mienfu9824]

I love these What Ifs! Next, what about What If Lupin joined the Horcrux hunt in Deathly Hallows? Would he help the trio a lot or would it pretty much end the same? Maybe Ron would never have left if Lupin was there.

[@tolkienism3806]

I like that one

[@dww6]

What if they took anyone else with them who was remotely useful 😂

[@Miss_Myth]

Love this theory! I always wanted to see more of Lupin, and he really gave some of the best advice/teaching/mentoring Harry had. I really hope the brothers see this one!

[@finleycavahna936]

ok cool theory but why tf would lupin go on the horcrux hunt...?

[@Acryllis]

@@finleycavahna936 cuz in the books he literally asks to go with them and complete the task dumbledor gave them (horcrux hunt)

[@EmilyCheetham]

I always assumed if anyone other than Harry touched the cup (on their own) that the cup would have take them to the audience & the only reason it took Harry & Cedric to the graveyard was because it was spelled to take Harry there. As in it was Harry’s touch that sent them there. No Harry no graveyard?

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Voldemort referred to Cedric as "the spare" when he and Harry showed up in the graveyard, so the Portkey was probably for anyone who touched it- Harry would be ideal, but not essential.

[@myadoesrandomthings]

i think it was origannly spelled to bring them to the front but was then spelled to bring them to the graveyard so they overlap, y'know?

[@Name.she-her-hers]

The joke about Cedric being so nice that he would give the blood willingly is the best part.

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ.

[@momostress]

I always assumed the portkey was supposed to get the winner out of the maze, so when Harry touched it again to escape, that's what it did

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ...

[@gennybaratta2460]

Same

[@dowfreak7]

I mean I wasn't even questioning why the portkey got Harry back: The apparitions reactivated it. The whole graveyard scene happens in some sort of "priori incantatem" thing, so while neither of them casted the original portus spell, the apparitions clearly have some autonomy and so they "reversed" the portus spell, allowing the key to work backwards.

[@janellehaines9705]

I'm not going to lie... I love Cedric. I dont have an explanation, I just love Cedric (for anyone thinking "you like Cedric because he is Edward Cullen" you are wrong, I like Edward Cullen becuase he's Cedric Diggory). I love the idea that Cedric is just unfailingly kind BUT he is a hufflepuff ("that's the point" you say. No it isnt). Hufflepuffs are kind and patient and LOYAL. That word is extremely important. Loyal might as well mean, will defend the people they care about no matter what it takes. Giving voldemort his blood would not be defending the people he cares about, it would be putting them in danger. Don't cross a hufflepuff, or more accurately, don't cross a friend of a hufflepuff, you will greatly regret it. (If you like a metaphor, her you go: Hufflepuffs are stereotypically kind Canadians, but you get on their bad side they become Canadian Geese.)

[@Caitgreenham]

Speaking as a Canadian I wouldn't say that we're actually kind, it's very superficial. I think we have a culture of passive aggressiveness.

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

Isn't it pretty obvious that voldemort didn't want to risk casting anything on harry without breaking the protection first? last time he tried to avada kedabra him with the protection on he got kinda rekt. which also means if he doesn't use harry's blood he can't touch him at all and has to plot another potter transfusion lol

[@naomisrandomness8223]

So this is what would have happened if Cedric didn't share the cup. The entire wizarding world was essentially saved by Cedric's niceness.

[@marco_voltage]

And that's the biggest reason we can't take the cursed child seriously lol

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

1:15 The Cursed Child: yeah imma ignore that Edit: Sidenote: this whole thing would be a better plot for The Cursed Child than Cedric becoming a bad guy after losing

[@zachh6868]

It's also interesting that Voldemort didn't even consider the idea of someone being kind enough to wait for someone else to take the cup with them.

[@dww6]

I'm not convinced he ever would have used Cedric. He needed an enemy, he wasn't short of them (just as he wasn't short of murders to create the horcrux). He'd have tried again for potter maybe using Cedric as bait... Wormtail could even appear without Voldemort presenting it as a failed attempt on Harry before sending Cedric back.

[@auldynlandry9203]

I always loved the theory that it was actually Wormtail that would take the polyjuice potion and come back as "Harry". He spent 3 years living with Ron and Harry and could easily pose as him for the remainder of the school year etc, get close to Dumbledore, while keeping Voldemorts return secret

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ..

[@NeverKissSomeFrog123]

That is an INSANELY good theory

[@matthewpelletier6900]

I think the Lovecrux idea is the thing that makes me more angry than anything else in Harry Potter; it's just so needlessly complicated. It would've made so much more sense if the 'accidental horcrux' situation just gave Harry a one time immunity to Avada Kedavra, because the curse would be expended on the Horcrux, rather than on Harry. I suppose that would require a slight change in the rules about souls, specifically that you should need one to be alive, and AK should kill you by destroying your soul, explaining why it leaves no physical trace.

[@kktypescript2137]

Honestly this is how I originally thought it happened. I thought AK just killed the horcrux 😅

[@Jane_Lightman]

I always like to think that the fact that Harry owns all 3 Deathly Hallows at this point also helps. Otherwise why would Dumbledore put him on the quest to find the Hallows if they don't work as Hallows vs horcruxes?

[@matthewpelletier6900]

@@Jane_Lightman It's never really been made clear if there is any special significance to having all 3 Hallows. Nothing is ever mentioned about it and the Resurrection Stone is actually kind of a dud

[@joeysfieldherpingadventure8861]

Yeah but in the HP world you can live without a soul. The demintors kiss steals your soul away but the person is still alive afterwards.

[@matthewpelletier6900]

@@joeysfieldherpingadventure8861 As I said, my idea would require a slight change in the rules of how souls work in HP. I think the whole 'alive without a soul' thing is neat, but the reason Harry survives AK is needlessly overcomplicated. If souls were required to be alive, it would make everything a lot more simple.

[@HippoEnjoyer]

Therapy companies selling user data sure ain’t great

[@Vetrarland]

Yeah weird I see comments like this on every video but it's never addressed

[@_MythicalWolf]

Not to mention that particular company is notorious for not even having actual licensed therapists

[@darkman80723]

​@@Vetrarland Well, you know.....money.....

[@Vetrarland]

@@darkman80723 True

[@emilycheng5897]

@@_MythicalWolf wait they don't? That's terrible

[@abucket14]

I asked the opposite of this question literally yesterday, asking "2) what would have happened if Cedric tricked Harry into picking up the cup by himself" or something along that line Edit: bonus Idea; What if the Dursleys were FORCED to attend the tri-wizard events (perhaps by dumbledore, or under threat by Notorious Seriel Killer, Godfather Sirius)

[@jamesetaylor89]

I always love these what ifs. I would love to see ones involving dobby. Like, what if Harry doesn't free dobby, or what if dobby doesn't block the barrier to the platform?

[@heather8737]

Yes!!! That would be awesome!

[@legendarylink5875]

I actually love this theory, but honestly idk if voldemort would willingly use polyjuice like that. Tom's most fatal flaw is that he is set on being different / better than everyone else. On the same vain idk if he would willingly use cedric's wand without absolute need to. Even when he needed a different wand to kill harry he kept and used his own because of his obsession with collecting valuble objects and things he has attachments to. I think he would have wanted to use his own wand to kill harry and albus

[@legendarylink5875]

To add to this, i still think ultimately he would win, but for a different reason. I feel he would use his own wand against harry and learn the same thing as before but quicker. This would also be bad for harry because without albus he would never learn about the holcruxes and would have no way to beat him.

[@SamuliK96]

Even though Cedric is the person he is, it was a close call in many ways. Harry could've taken a little longer or Cedric a little shorter to get through the maze, and they wouldn't have faced each other at the end.

[@CheezsterYT]

Fudge 's response to the situation is honestly hilarious.

[@PerfectChaos7]

I doubt Harry would be sitting there for who knows how long after he sees Cedric disappear after touching the cup. He'd probably send red sparks up at some point in order to get taken back. After which they all would probably proceed to brainstorm ideas of possibilities of what just happened while Voldemort and Wormtail do their ritual in the graveyard.

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ....

[@MegaGlaive]

We all seem to be forgetting crouch disguised as moody, who has his eye to see what is going on inside the maze. He will know immediately that cedric and the cup vanished, and have time to formulate a plan before Harry sends up the red sparks. On top of that, fake moody will probably be the one to retrieve Harry when he sends those red sparks ... and execute the plan At a minimum, fake moody might have a backup portkey to the graveyard, and he will send Harry on his way

[@rajek333]

As much as I adore your What if...? videos, I'm utterly unconvinced with this one. In my opinion, you're taking the "I couldn't touch him" line, too literally. I feel it was supposed to mean that Voldemort couldn't even touch Harry, leave alone harm him in any way. Why would you assume that Lily's sacrifice would've only worked once? In my opinion, as soon as Ceric-mort tries to use Avada Kedavra on Harry, he gets vaporized just like it happened the first time. And knowing this, he insisted on using Harry's blood so that he could break through the defences of Lily's sacrifice. Harry would've still possessed the power that Voldemort knew not. Could that mean that Voldemort ultimately had no way to defeat Harry by his own means? Possibly. But Harry needed to believe that he could be killed by Voldemort to allow his own sacrifice in the Forbidden Forest. But this also means that if Voldemort didn't rely so much on the prophecy and chose another wizard's blood to revive himself and then had a Death Eater kill Harry, that would probably have a chance of working, but like Dumbledore had said "he wouldn't have been Voldemort"

[@Thunderbender18830]

Thank You! I don’t know where they got the idea that Lily’s protection was confined to protecting him from physical touch. Sure Voldemort said “I can touch you now” but that was never meant to imply that Voldemort was only prevented from touching Harry. The protection stopping Voldemort’s Avada Kedavra when Harry was a baby is literally the catalyst of the whole story.

[@joseloaiza3436]

I adore your comment because it explains literally what I was thinking when watching the video.

[@sawanna508]

Yes, remember Voldermort used Avada Kedavra against Harry as a baby AFTER killing Lily. They were not hit by the same spell at once.

[@sarahglover3286]

Then they'd have deemed the plan a failure and just used Cedric instead then killed him! He'd have been missing, Harry would have sent up red sparks to be rescued assuming the Port Key had taken Cedric to outside the maze then been surprised when he wasn't there meaning people would search for him and find he wasn't in the maze but would probably never find out what happened to him!

[@TheBeastBoss04]

You really are everywhere 😂

[@sarahglover3286]

@@TheBeastBoss04 Someone hasn't watched my intro vlog, this was a channel I listed! Also stop stalking me!

[@jaredmarkham7300]

I don't think the graveyard is completely out of play if Harry doesn't tuch the cup at all. I believe that Bartty is smart enough to make sure that the cup only works tike it does when Harry grabs it.

[@benjamindebo9283]

Voldemort's using polyjuice is scary considering how well he can read minds. Makes his impersonation that much more convincing because he can learn a lot about a person

[@TheDrexLord]

Voldemort pretending to be Harry is the funniest thought this show has given me in a while

[@ilovecairns5181]

SPOILER!!!!!

[@tia7520]

You know what's funnier to me? Voldemort pretending to be Cedric. A guy who cannot comprehend compassion pretending to be the kindest guy ever.

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

Love these "what if" videos. You should do some for Star Wars too.

[@florianmeganck3625]

I understand you wanna end up on a positive note, but I personally think that Cedric being a fierce and loyal friend would trust Harry. So Harry would have been able to trick him into grabbing the cup first by doing a fake out. So the scenario isn't Really that far off. I think the real question is if Voldemort would even come back at all if Harry didn't get teleported to the graveyard. Because he sounds like he's Really intent on using Harry's blood specifically. Voldemort has so many enemies. He could have also just had Wormtail break into some random guy's house. Have Wormtail say: 'Hi! I'm here in the name of lord Voldemort!' before killing the guy's wife and kids. Then that random guy would definitely qualify as An enemy. And then Wormtail could just use his blood! If it weren't for Harry, the plan had no Point. So I could see a scenario where Voldemort just has Wormtail erase Cedric's memory of the graveyard entirely before sending the boy back and getting started on a new plan! Maybe he'd Grab some of Cedric's hair to do the polyjuice potion except that he already has Barry Crouch Junior at Hogwarts who's one avada kedavra away from killing Dumbledore and Harry anyway! I love these what if stories. They're always entertaining and well-thought out. I just personally think that not a lot would have particularly changed in this particular hypothetical scenario.

[@geenkaas6380]

Why would Harry do a fake out?

[@florianmeganck3625]

@@geenkaas6380 I agree that it would have been more likely of him not to do a fake out. But I guess because Harry would be too noble to claim the cup for himself, and he knows that Cedric is too noble to do so either.

[@tylerhayes9808]

Voldemort literally only tried using avada on Harry in the graveyard he had no plans of letting him get away. 😂

[@zachw28]

Cedric is one of the best Hufflepuffs probably only second to Newt. They make me proud to be a Hufflepuff

[@m4rtyna.z19k]

i love tonks aswell hufflepuffs 🔛🔝 - a ravenclaw 💙

[@CertifiedMayorOfYappington]

Hufflepuffs are just random people that like pancakes.

[@zee7.]

You should make a video that is "What if Voldemort felt remorse in the final battle, and his soul was renewed" it would be super cool. Also "What is Draco was a Gryffindor with Harry".

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ...

[@jackhartford4831]

that cedric bit in the middle was hilarious haha

[@phillipclark6854]

15:35 i never believed it was because of the battle that caused this. I still think it was the piece of voldy inside harry defending itself against himself

[@ahshvdhb26urg]

*🔝🔝He'll you've been selected amongst our shortlisted winner for a prize! 🏆🏆 message to Telegram above name”"❤

[@mediadunce653]

So why would Voldemort be able to kill Harry in this scenario? Why wouldn't his curse rebound like it did in Godric's Hollow?

[@MadRaptorGaming]

Yes, it would.

[@mreevee7785]

Because no one with lilys blood would be present. Remember in the original books harry was only safe due to petunias presence at privet drive. If petunia wasnt what was keeping him safe then he wouldnt have had to have gone to privet drive to begin with.

[@furiousgamerxz5141]

Harry had to stay at Privet Drive to be protected by Death Eaters not Voldemort because he was already protected from him

[@mreevee7785]

@FuriousGamerXZ that wouldnt make any sense, if dumbledore had been worried about death eaters he could have just stationed harry at a powerful wizarding familys house instead of allowing him to suffer the abuse of the dursleys.

[@furiousgamerxz5141]

Pretty sure Dumbledore doesn't have the authority to choose who raises Harry so in the hypothetical scenario that Dumbledore doesn't give Harry to the Dursleys than Harry would have likely been raised by the Malfoys because they are "good upstanding citizens", Purebloods and close to the minister (Fudge) but let's say that didn't happen let's say Harry ended up with the Weasleys for example well would Harry be protected by Death Eaters? No we see evidence of this with Neville's parents who despite being in hiding and having strong wards around their house were still tortured to the point where their minds retreated and didn't recognize their son anymore.

[@Kylee594]

Love you guys!!! Pls make a “what if Neville was the chosen one”❤❤❤❤

[@bobmyers7030]

He IS the chosen one.

[@Kylee594]

Neville is THE BEST character and no one can prove me wrong

[@arinerm1331]

@@Kylee594 Well, I'm partial to Luna, myself. I sure can't argue your position though, because book Neville **AND** movie Neville (Matthew Lewis) matured on such an incredible arc. Neville **deserved** to be the one to kill the last Horcrux, absolutely!

[@tolkienism3806]

I imagine that what if would be a 7 part series like the Dumbledore big plan and the harry potter in slytheryn what ifs

[@Cbell14-]

Harry would have living parents. Harry would grow up under James and Lily in a loving household and either be a great child or the biggest bully you’d ever meet. I like to think that maybe if Harry was a bully, he’d 100% bully Neville. He’d totally be the new Draco😂

[@tommymccann2640]

I think he would have put Cedric under the imperious curse then sent him back to bring him Harry. "Hey Harry would you hold the cup for me?"

[@kevinslyter]

I love your guys’ what-if stories, thanks for making them!

[@nashrigler8358]

So Cedric is the real hero. 🫡

[@matthewpatrick7263]

Interesting idea about polyjuice. I always figured the plan was for Voldemort and the Death Eaters to ride the portkey to Hogwarts with Harry's corpse. Crouch Jr. would shoot Dumbledore in the back while the others start fighting, killing Fudge and leaving the wizarding world in chaos.

[@WriteMePoetry]

Benjjjjjjjjj! I think this is one of my favorites! ❤️❤️❤️ "Fierce, fierce friend." You almost made me cry! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@noelle_reads_alot]

12:51 this is the best thing I’ve seen all year

[@Alwarin1]

Still not bothered by Better Help allegedly selling medical data, I see :)

[@aaronflanary271]

Allegedly is the key word. Innocent until proven guilty remember.

[@noradonehoo1579]

When Cedric died I reread to make sure that what I read actually happened bc Cedric was and still us one of my favorite characters in Harry Potter

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ

[@destielboots9391]

You need the person who you're transforming into with Polyjuice to still be alive, hence Moody being kept alive in the trunk. Otherwise, great vid.

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ

[@akaroundthesun]

Stop taking betterhelp sponsorships

[@krounos1]

Any reason why they shouldn't?

[@nick6990]

Their gonna keep taking them cause it looks they don’t read comments

[@acm4521]

Why not?

[@akaroundthesun]

@@acm4521 they do a lot of shady stuff

[@akaroundthesun]

@@krounos1 the also sell there clients info to other pope

[@Emperor_Oshron]

totally agreed on all the foreshadowing in Goblet of Fire--i reread it for the first time earlier this year and loved seeing all the hints to what was going to happen later. there was even the bit about Harry and Draco getting into a fight and their spells bounce off each other foreshadowing the fight with Voldemort at the end.

[@jenanncreates1033]

I think this is my favorite theories of your thus far, primarily because it gives me the warm fuzzies to think about Cedric just being true to himself.

[@MrBlineq]

I think its more likely that the port key worked for the way back is because its twice enchanted, the original "bring the winner back to the start of the maze" and the graveyard port which was put "on top"

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ.

[@scarletrevon522]

13:00 your killing me 😂

[@PolinaLee94]

Given how no one was surprised on how Harry teleported inside Hogwarts, wich is suppose to be impossible for any wizard teleportation way, i say the cup was always ment as a portkey. It also is the best way to confirm that however has it did actually touch it first.

[@ahshvdhb26urg]

*🔝🔝He'll you've been selected amongst our shortlisted winner for a prize! 🏆🏆 message to Telegram above name”"❤

[@dowfreak7]

We've seen "forbidden transport" turned off in only certain parts of the grounds before already. It's not really out of the question that a similar rule was made for the portkey and Barty fiddled with not just the place the portkey brings you, but also the extent to which that boundary was removed. Of course we'd need more theoretical knowledge on how portkeys work, because the only other instant transmission type transport had someone specifically state that you shouldn't try to get out of it, but what can you do. With Dumbledore's special skill to detect and realize magic, being suspicious of Barty Sr. to the point where he checks the pensieve and having students run through a place where no one can see them (great spectator event, btw), there is no conceivable way a substantial breach of Hogwarts grounds rules like this would've gone unnoticed by him, though.

[@sieversen1235]

I still don't get why Voldemort's plan even had to involve the tournament at all. I mean, Fake Moody could have just slipped Harry a portkey at any point during that year and propably gotten away with it. I guess style points really matter, especially for evil masterminds.

[@ahshvdhb26urg]

*🔝🔝He'll you've been selected amongst our shortlisted winner for a prize! 🏆🏆 message to Telegram above name”"🥳

[@cateraderer6435]

Absolutely love these what ifs. I almost want these all to be several parts!

[@erinskrobot1332]

Only problem is it would be a pretty big given if Cedric, a head boy can get into his common room😅😅😅😅

[@UrFriendlyNeighborhoodBassist-]

It’s funny how the story goes the other way around when only Harry gets the cup and Cedric becomes a death eater and all that 😂😂

[@glauciaherzer9298]

the part where you were doing cedric being nice and offering his blood made me laugh SO HARD

[@edwardhudson3446]

Voldemort needs Harry's blood to overcome Lily's protection. Without it Voldemort still loses to Harry, unless the elder wand can overcome her protection on its own.

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ...

[@ehsteve23]

I’d love to see some of your What Ifs for other franchises

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ..

[@danielrhouck]

12:50 I read a fanfic once where it was still Harry in the graveyard, but he was a bit more lucid at the time, and as soon as Wormtail said “Blood of the enemy, forcibly taken”, Harry said “You can have my blood! Take it!”, and as such Voldemort came back much weaker from the messed-up ritual.

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ..

[@stuartl7761]

Lol. I love the idea of Cedric completely destroying Voldie's plan at all levels just by being so kind as to freely offer his blood. Though in the end I suppose he won through kindness anyway.

[@yayajosh]

I’m not sure any of this really makes sense because after he kidnaps Harry, he immediately summons his death eaters to announce his return. And Snape would for sure feel the mark and know that he’s back, and Voldemort already suspects that Snape is on Dumbledore’s side. This was always my problem with the plan anyway. Why would he not assume that Snape would tell Dumbledore the mark has been burned if he already fears one of his group may be gone for good?

[@OfficialSupercarlinbrothers]

👆👆 🆙 ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ʟᴜᴄᴋʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ 𝐓𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 ᴀᴘᴘ ᴛᴏ ᴄʟᴀɪᴍ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ🎁🎁 ᴀʙᴏᴠᴇ ɴᴀᴍᴇ.

[@Mason-hv5zh]

The protection Lily gave Harry wasn't just about literally physically touching Harry. As long as it lasted, he couldn't be killed by Voldemort, magically or physically. That's the whole reason why the original killing curse meant for Harry rebounded and Harry became "the boy who lived". It even mentions this in Deathly Hallows when none of Voldemorts charms could stick after Harry died for them and there were no further casualties from the good side. Voldemort wanted Harry's blood because it bypasses the protection spell and puts him in with it and eliminates the barrier between them.

[@mateuszdworak1252]

Avada kadavra wouldn't have worked tho unless it was cast by someone else? The "I can touch him now" thing was basically "I can kill him".

[@lmunira]

For Polyjuice potion to work, the donor has to be alive

[@lovelylife-tz4be]

You guys really should do episodes where you replay the plot and you play all the characters. I love everytime you do little snippets in your regular episodes. Is always makes me laugh and always makes my day❤

[@ana.nke_]

I love these “what if”s cause it’s like we can create so many other versions of the story

[@General12th]

Hi Ben! I love these theory videos! They are my absolute favorite!

[@erikamohrmann7986]

Had you published this theory before?!?! I swear I’ve been looking for this video exactly that I know I’d seen before like months ago.

[@pavelslama5543]

13:30 Voldy´s plan turning into a complete farce and a dark joke is the perfect backfiring concept I´ve seen in a long time.

[@071alec]

Cedric is so nice that he won the first trial by asking nicely for the dragons egg

[@kingbouncer1314]

Voldemort is way to proud to wear the face of the boy who lived, the boy who killed him. I don't think he'd use the polyjuice potion, not on himself at least.

[@theycallmejodamo]

“Can I have my hand back?” “NOOOOOO!!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@LunnarisLP]

Well I do think Voldemord was expecting the same thing to happen if he used his wand that happened when Harry was a Baby, which would be the curse backfiring and killing him.

[@manonthemoon692]

The reason why the try wizard cup sent Harry with Cedric's body back to Hogwarts when it was touched a second time is because that was the intended purpose for the champion to be teleported to the area in front of the crowd and judges since whoever touched the cup would win point wise Cedric and Harry were tied for 1st place and the only reason it sent them to the graveyard first was because Barty crouch Jr caused it to go to the graveyard but after someone was sent there then the Second touch cause it's true purpose to happen which is taking the winning champion to the beginning of the maze. Voldemort did not have any hidden plan to go back and pretend to be Harry because the prophecy said only Harry had the power to kill him so why would he bother. Killing Harry would mean he already won

[@RayGainbows]

Starting at 12:53 You had me rolling 🤣

[@bloemundude]

You missed the opportunity to explore what might happen if Fleur got to the cup and old Voldy had to take her form. I can hear the fan-fictions being typed right now.

[@erikagholston6610]

The What If scenarios are very thought provoking.

[@letstalket]

The thing with these what if videos is that only one can be true because each one requires certain changes to original timeline

[@ahshvdhb26urg]

*🔝🔝He'll you've been selected amongst our shortlisted winner for a prize! 🏆🏆 message to Telegram above name”"❤

[@larissaschocher6112]

I love your videos!! Do you have a video where you describe who makes the patronus which harry sees in the 3rd book at the lake the first time? And there is one other thing that bothers me. In 5th and 7th book when they fight, why do they not distroy the wands? If they don't wanna kill them that would be a consistent way to make them incapacitated...

[@yourstoneruncle]

I have a suggestion for your what-if series "what if Voldemort went to live with Tom Riddle SR instead of Wool's orphanage"

[@shlokbirthday575]

Hey SCB love your videos I have a theory idea What if Harry broke the prophecy himself in the Department of Mysteries

[@steveelvins2628]

I love all your vids, especially the theories. Please do how to train your dragon movie content though, I have my own theory, like Valka's big plan.

[@user-zf7lc6eb4r]

What if Harry gave his blood without any force then the whole scenario would be different….he will listen to Peter saying blood forcefully taken from enemy and smartly say oh I’m okay with it lol

[@kyraeverknight]

“Lovecrux’d” is going near the top of Words I Never Want To Hear Again!!!

[@littlefoot5013]

I love your what ifs. I'm wondering if you could do some past Potter what ifs (i.e. things before "The Boy Who Lived" chapter in The Sorcerers Stone.) Like these: 1.) What if Merope Gaunt Riddle had survived? Would Tom Marvolo Riddle still become Lord Voldemort? Would he be bad but not a Dark Lord with Horcruxes (perhaps he'd go into the Ministry and become Minister of Magic and implement pro-pureblood, anti-muggle born policies directly instead of using a rogue group like the Death Eaters)? Or would he be good? 2.) What if Arianna Dumbledore hadn't died and Dumbledore and Grindelwald had teamed up for "The Greater Good"? 3.) What if Dumbledore LOST his famous duel with Gelleret Grindelwald? Who would have picked up Tom Riddle from the orphanage? Would Tom Riddle have joined forces with Grindelwald or slowly rose in the UK as a rival? 4.) What if James Potter had been sorted in Slytherin instead of Gryffindor? Would he and Snape still have been enemies? Would he and Lupin, Pettigrew, and Black still have formed the Mauraders (and if, so, would Snape be among their number?)? 5.) What if Severus Snape had been sorted into Gryffindor instead of Slytherin? Would he have married Lily instead of James? Would Voldemort have gotten any bit of the prophecy without him joining the Death Eaters? Would James have bullied him anyway, despite the two being in the same house? 6.) What if Peter Pettigrew had stayed good and not joined Voldemort? 7.) What if Severus Snape had failed to get ANY of the prophecy? Would Harry or Neville still become the Chosen One? And, if so, how would their story have panned out?

[@hufflepom]

Something that I've thought a lot about, no one can see in the maze (no one could see the lake task either) what was stopping Crouch (as Moody) to just pop into the maze and take care of the other champions that way?

[@skelletorkillyt5209]

i love the outro animation!

[@DefinitelyObiwanKenobi]

Petition for a Cedric sitcom

[@CrossxFir3]

I highly doubt voldemort uses cedricks wand. He's stated to be attached to his wand and only strays from it after it fails him against Harry. So for me, the dual core duel would still happen.

[@dakotabeard3946]

I have a couple questions unrelated to this video but very much related to Harry Potter: If Voldemort was incapable of feeling and or understanding love, what would happen if he drank a love potion? Would it actually make him feel love and would it give him some understanding in what love was (even though love potions are technically infatuation potions)? Just randomly thought of this and was wondering what everyone thinks haha who knows maybe Ben or J could even do a video about this topic

[@Ravenclaw-ey8oq]

The port keys are two ways. When they use them the first time they collect all the port keys and Mr weasley tells them all to get to the port key during the attack to escape

[@locally-lyn.x]

12:44 if anyone wants to spam watch the skit

[@OLLCRAFT14]

12:32 laughs in Cursed Child