Supercell Is Superdead

Supercell is likely the most recognizable mobile game developer in the world. Virtually everyone knows about Clash of Clans and Clash Royale, yet, over the past couple of years, Supercell has lost much of the momentum that they once had. In fact, both Clash of Clans and Clash Royale only receive a fraction of the interest that they used. And to make things worse, Supercell’s new games aren’t doing that well either. In fact, Supercell has even shut down some of their newer titles due to a lack of interest. You could chalk this up to people simply getting bored of their games, but I think there are more factors at play. First of all, a lot of people were starting to feel to Supercell’s games were pay-to-win. If you buy gems in Clash of Clans or Clash Royale, you would get a massive advantage against players who didn’t. This isn’t true with many newer games like Fortnite where paying for accessories or skins gives you no advantage. So, many players preferred to play the latter. Aside from feeling disadvantaged, many casual gamers flocked to social media from mobile gaming. Supercell’s acquisition by Tencent didn’t really make this situation any better. This video explains what happened to Supercell and the future of Supercell.
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[@Sena-yk6mm]

Around 2013, I joined a clan in CoC named after my city. I used to hangout in real life with them. We've grown up, Missed those days 😢

[@LogicallyAnswered]

😔

[@gudboi1944]

We all gonna miss those days :(

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[@gecko2738]

You should try and contact them again!

[@pizzapizzza4607]

Clash of clans is still fun

[@dimaisatree]

The games are no where near as popular as they used to be but they’re by no means dead. Imagine a game has 100 million daily active players and then it loses 95% of those players, they’ll still have 5 million daily players which is a very impressive number.

[@ravitejaknts]

Let say a billionaire lost his money and only have a few thousand left in his bank. If you dont call him he lost everything, I dont know what do you consider as lost. Those few thousand may be great for many, but for him, he's bankrupt.

[@totallynotarickroll1655]

@@ravitejaknts yea but you won't call him poor

[@PauIdenino]

@@ravitejaknts Going from a billionaire to only having a few thousand left in his bank is not a fair example. More like going from from a billionaire who's very famous to a billionaire who is less famous, but still a billionaire.

[@Adam-yu5zj]

@@PauIdenino that’s a much better analogy

[@Ren_Zu]

Supercell team already enrich themselves and their families with 10 years of clash of clans business so they don't care anymore about the game dying or not. They already invested into many businesses so their money still flowing

[@officialronii]

I'm 18, played CoC for 8 years and CR for 5 years, those games are tied to my memories and nostalgia thats why i still play them daily to this day

[@johnzhibai]

Same

[@JoBeaan]

Me too !

[@alapahay1234]

Same

[@bobwashington226]

try, brawlstars

[@eliasawad892]

Same i would cry for years if they die

[@agentsmith_]

The reason I left COC was because they shut down global. First they divided the global into regions, like Indians were separated, Chinese were separated, even when they had the same language. Also, they made the game a bit for "subscription based", and kid's play for new players. Community got toxic with toddlers playing the game. This became irritating. I remember, making great friends, it replaced most social media.

[@giovannigiorgio6406]

I played for 4 years and made really good (virtual) friend.. we talked every single day, all day.. but at some point I realized how much time/attention it took out of my day and we quit

[@TheBooban]

Was going to say, they messed up the social aspect. Its been a long run for them, but without a social aspect, folks move on. My clan went from 50 to just 15 actives just this year. I can’t recruit from my country, just random people.

[@masternobody1896]

glad supercell is dead. most greedy company ever

[@elislundvall8234]

Hi @@masternobody1896 hawe you ever heard of the company EA

[@Dira_1111]

Yep , Especially on Reddit

[@dashinking]

Feels like this video was sort of giving its own conclusion of how the company and its games are doing based on not much evidence and some assumptions. I really don't think their 3 biggest games (coc, cr, bs) are dead at all, and it's completely natural for interest to die down after getting massively hyped in their early years. Whether or not supercell will "die" is something that's hard to tell

[@abdulazeezbarboza5662]

True until coc is alive supercell will be. Judo sloth is getting a million views each day even though he is only a coc content creator. That says a lot.

[@3takoyakis]

It's dead as other ppl said, 95% population leaving. Which means if they got 100millions, they still got 5millions player and it's still impressive Their game are hella slow to get update. Coc for example, have ded update era before sc decided to pick it up again (or maybe bcs their chinese investor said so, they got bought by chinese) Cor updates are slow too and they keep rerunning stuff. Brawl stars are the one that still fresh though they become more and more repetitive Sc have 3 upcoming projects but all of em are copying other game with lil twist

[@dashinking]

Doesn't really prove theyre dead. Slow update cycles don't necessarily relate to player amounts or the developer's interest in the games - the games are already 5-10 years old so obviously a lot aren't going to stay forever. But the fact that the games' communities are still going strong shows they aren't fizzling out anytime soon. The teams working on each game (current or upcoming) are also separate so seeing a lack of originality or a cancellation doesn't spell disaster for the whole company.

[@Settiis]

@@3takoyakis But as he said, Judo sloth still gets a million views per video, and that’s only a small portion of the players that play the game. It’s fair to assume Coc has somewhere around 10 million active players.

[@rsequestris2506]

AMD is not responsible for the rise of PC gaming lmao, prices have gone up for PC gaming but AMD has raised competition with Intel and Nvidia so you generational improvements for the PC gaming products are bigger

[@Marinho965]

I still play clash of clans, let me tell you something, they killed the game as soon as they removed the global chat, I remembered when I didn’t have anything to do on the game but I would still waste my time talking to strangers, switching clans, inviting people to my clan etc, now it’s dead

[@LogicallyAnswered]

😢

[@Mac10943]

So true couldn't agree more, I haven't played the game since they removed global chat. That was a killer move and it ruined the game to a large extent

[@agentsmith_]

Yeah. I miss those good old days. The community was so good. It was an unnecessary move. I remember gifting gems on Christmas to random strangers. It was such a good feeling

[@katsudon2048]

People who say "I miss those days" you are annoying

[@DankAlien2580]

I remember random people swearing on global chat and fake links offering free gems. They had to finally remove global chat for the sake of being kids friendly game

[@Kempyyyy]

the trailer 7 days ago got 45million views. Definitely not super dead.

[@blazaram3368]

Yeah I agree. I don’t get these videos calling supercell games “dead”

[@heheheha9094]

I am a max th14. Many of the people ik have quit

[@Kempyyyy]

@@heheheha9094 I guess many players who are max may have left, but many may return especially as TH15 comes in 2 months!

[@firstlast167]

@@heheheha9094 ohhhh for sure they will be back if another update comes

[@lenyv]

​@@Kempyyyy are you fr. cr gonna go📉📉📉📉lvl 15 is absolutely broken and will make the game extremely skilless. when did they announce this?

[@Bash70]

You know you're getting old when mobile gaming is considered "nostalgic" 😞

[@anonymously_]

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[@abdulazeezbarboza5662]

@@anonymously_ now no more

[@DR_GAMERZ2004]

@@anonymously_ wow 😳. U made yt delete that bot

[@kevinduliesco5468]

Yeh😭☺️☺️☺️🙄🤧

[@NightC7785]

@@DR_GAMERZ2004 What is that bot saying?

[@rheild]

The metrics used in this video aren’t accurate. Google Trends/Socialblade are not an accurate representation of a game’s popularity, as typically spikes only occur when an update is announced, not when there is a surplus of players actively playing. Thus, viewership could be low but player counts can still remain healthy. These games are nowhere near “dead”, just not near their peak levels. Still pulling millions of views with update announcements is amounts that practically no other exclusively mobile games can achieve. Claiming that “half the game is just walls” is not an accurate representation, it’s not as if you sit there slowly watching the wall upgrade for half the time you play; just that your resources are spent on that. A game could cost millions to max out and still be easy to max out without spending money; amount of money to max out is not indicative of how much it takes to max out, buying resources directly with IAPs tend to be overpriced. A game is P2W not when it takes years to max out, but rather because it actively puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to opponent(s).

[@arkcliref]

yeah. I'm currently at TH9 (with a TH10 rush to max) and I can say to you, while walls take half of the game, 95% of that one half is just farming which requires brain. (the other 5% is waiting for builders to get done on their upgrades. Yes, other buildings are needed to be upgraded) For P2W, I think of this as, if you can gem to improve your defenses for a short amount of time. Afterall, Clash of Clans is a STRATEGY game, if your strategy is horrible, even a maxed TH14 will not save you (though it can help a lot), also it's P2W if you are clashing gemmers, which isn't the case. It's not a disadvantage not to be a gemmer. The closest this game has to a P2W feature is the season pass, which is not a good idea for the players, but then again the previous points. Also, the game ain't dead, it's like saying a Billionaire that turned Millionaire is poor.

[@minecrafter3448]

I posted a comment using his logic to determine that, since his recent video viewer average is at just 27k, his channel is 10 times more dead than supercell. Glad to see someone else bringing something new to the table.

[@nathan-qx2ep]

Famboy mad? 😬😂

[@minecrafter3448]

@@nathan-qx2ep fatherless brainwashed?

[@Kenobisan02]

@@nathan-qx2ep how

[@Darain1]

Playing this game for 7 long years and I can say yes COC was popular back then, now it's not that popular but it still have huge player base. So, no... Supercell is not dead

[@arkcliref]

I actually come back to CoC because it's literally one of the few good mobile games out there, and bonus it is multiplayer.

[@jacksauce]

@@arkcliref You also don’t have to spend money on the game. I’ve been playing for 9 years and haven’t spent a single penny on CoC

[@roobeyee]

@@jacksauce I’m glad to see there are some people not complaining about global chat or how the game is apparently pay to win.

[@jacksauce]

@@roobeyee The game was never (or at least as far as I’m concerned) pay to win. Global chat being removed was sad, but in the long run I think it might have been a fairly positive thing for the game because it removed a lot of hostility between players and also made the game a lot more friendly to new players. You never knew who was going to be on global chat at any given moment and that was both a blessing and a curse

[@roobeyee]

@@jacksauce yeah, it also removed the people trying to talk to children. For some reason nobody seems to care about that

[@robsterslobsters6014]

I will always cherish the memories I've had with most supercell games . I still play coc( since 2015) , since all the others are far too different and frustrating to play.The memories we made with friends both in irl and in global chat , those were good times to remember ...despite the game changing and us growing up , the memories we cherish make us happy ..despite us growing up ...we will always find something else to enjoy.

[@drpill6531]

Bro I quit coc because I got so much stress from the pressure of Clan Wars and Trophy Pushing

[@likenesss7692]

@@drpill6531 just dont trophy push and find a clan where even if you 1 star you can just apologise and wont get kicked or demoted

[@drpill6531]

@@likenesss7692 I'm very competitive and wanted as much resources and trophies as possible, so I kept climbing for higher leagues. Also it's the getting on to battle part of clan wars, the battles are easy. Had a lot of things going on and playing was always in the back of my mind stressing me

[@guriflash3603]

@@drpill6531 you can turn on the recomendation to not put you in clan wars .bro dont sacrifice your mental health over a game.hope you come back

[@Patton-cc5wt]

It’s still estimated 75 million monthly users. Huge game! Doesn’t sound that dead to me

[@MasoHQlC5GW5btFZ]

It’s just clickbait, the guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[@fouadbenrezzak8398]

Im played clash of clans since it was launched and a lot of old gamers and my old Clan stopped So yeah the stupid system of pay to win Killed the game

[@kelvin4910]

​@@fouadbenrezzak8398it's not pay to win smh

[@St_D6]

Every summer I seem to come back to playing supercell games I really don’t believe it’s dead but it’s obviously not as popular. Supercell games have gave me tons of memories so brawl stars, cr, and coc got a good place in my heart

[@krishgupta7898]

I remember me buying clash royale chest in 2019 using my father's credit card without informing him the purchase was of about Rs.10,000 i was very strategical i deleted the mssg from bank that came on his phone and the amount was negligible compare to money in acc. everything went well for 2 days until one of my friend whom i flinched upon decided to be a snitch and informed my mother about the purchase that night was the most horrifying night i was punished to the extreme. however i enjoy the purchase till today and believe that purchase was completely fine and those 10,000 couldn't have been better used.

[@krishgupta7898]

btw that was my first ever internet purchase

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Hahaha, what a play. You can’t be gemming though bro. Gotta do it all legit haha

[@Mac10943]

LOL that's actually hilarious

[@agentsmith_]

10k for that game. Everyone has choices, but considering you're Indian. Maybe it's 150USD, you should have been punished XD

[@killercon2735]

thats like 150 dollars, good thing u got punished kid lmao

[@spaghetti1383]

"An easy $5000 dollars from each player". Cmon, no need to lie. I might be considered one of these top players and nobody directly gems walls. Even if Supercell is dying, the p2w argument (for COC) is dumb and usually made by salty noobs. First, what is winning? Maxing your base? Maxing your base isn't really a competition. You can only see it that way if your main goal in the game is having the clout associated with being maxed. In the core gaming loop (which is multiplayer attacks and regular clan wars), you win by being a good attacker. So if winning is being able to three star, casual players suck because they don't learn good strategies, not because they don't spend enough money. Still, it is a MAJOR problem that it takes years to max from the beginning, all while new updates are still releasing. It is very possible to max without paying anything, but you gotta be in it for the long haul. But it just isn't accurate to describe the situation as pay to win. The problem here is that there is too much content for new players to catch up on in a reasonable amount of time. Even if the core gaming loop is great, they always feel too disconnected from the new content and the experiences they see on KZbin. It is inherent to any long running base building game. To my knowledge, Clash of Clans is the first to experience it and I don't know if any similar game has a good solution.

[@blacker5826]

Clash of clans is far easier for f2p players these days including myself. If you play enough and think efficiently as possible (which does not take much brain power) you could probably be able to be half way through town hall 12 in your first year. I started on December 2nd 2021 and it is currently August 8th 2022 and I am about 60% through town hall 11 (upgraded town halls only when all buildings and traps were maxed and the lab and heroes were both at minimum 80% done)

[@XER0GRAVITY]

GTA Online has the same problem, and Rockstar is doing little about it.

[@aurora7939]

Supercell will always hold a place in my heart. I was never really interested in coc or cr because i wasnt really into strategy games. But, Brawl Stars was amazing for me, it was incredibly fun and i literally couldnt stop playing it. It was so fun and it was nothing like i had ever played before. But years passed and I felt like the game was a bit repitive so i eventually took a month or so long break to take some time off and recover from burnout. When i returned, i was extremely excited to get back in, i bought the brawl pass and started pushing, and after awhile i gained like 4k+ trophies in just a week or two. But quickly i started getting burntout again and i havent played since. Even if i dont return the game ever again, I will still watch the youtubers and keep up with the community every now and then. Thank you for reading!

[@GatikRaj]

I’m going into 7th grade, safe to say during the pandemic I was crazy bored, this was until my friends pointed out brawl stars to me. The game will always hold a spot in my heart, and I’m sad to see the company going down so quickly

[@pxldeath3561]

remember those days, that was clash royale for me when i was going into 7th

[@grov71]

It's not "going down" it's been steady for like the last 4 years

[@Lupg13]

@@grov71 Nah man, every since the October/November update last year it's be going down hill FAST.

[@muhammedraashid3667]

@@Lupg13 What is your source?

[@femiairboy94]

@@Lupg13 no, it hasn’t been going down hill “fast” go and look at their earnings for the first quarter of 2022. They’re still quite strong financially especially from coc.

[@dangerworld_yt7421]

i actually started playing clash of clans 6 days ago im now town hall 7 and yes supercell is not as popular as it used to be but theres still fairly a lot of active clans and players i also joined a clan 4 days ago and they are super kind and talkative so if you wanna play your not gonna be alone dont worry

[@dxviljin]

should I play Clash of clans or clash royal

[@so12productions]

@@dxviljin depends on what you like

[@minecrafter3448]

@@dxviljin clash royale will make you rage, so start off passive with coc

[@dxviljin]

@@so12productions actually I decided to dump my time into clans cuz royale is rly rage inducing for me 😂

[@so12productions]

@@dxviljin 😂

[@teddydbest2160]

Recently I’ve had a lot more of my friends playing clash of clans which made me think ab the game as a whole bc I remember when it was #1 game for awhile so they might be making a comeback tbh

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Maybe

[@williammal2166]

@@LogicallyAnswered bro the games are stable. every game loses hype and supercell will stay popular for a very long time. what is this

[@williammal2166]

@@LogicallyAnswered Supercell isnt close to dead

[@primozesmile9518]

bruh to those saying supercell is greedy or that it is p2w you have to know that you have never played any supercell game in your life at all or just played the first 30 minutes of one

[@TheMATTrix...]

Yep. I easily overfil my storages in like 1 day. The fact the he called coc"p2w" indicates that he never played coc yet. Im a th 12 and tthe wall grind is easy. Sure , the game may not be as popular as it was. But thats just normal. Players doing the same thing over and over again. This game ISNT DEAD AND NEVER WILL BE

[@penguinpouch5667]

CoC is not dead by any means. Still has millions of active daily players. Chief pat has less views because hes not one of the premiere clash of clans youtubers anymore. KZbinrs like Judo Sloth get hundred of thousands of views on his videos, sometimes even millions.

[@r.h.2506]

Yeah its not fair to say that its dead just because its not at its prime anymore

[@minol8846]

Looking at Google trends than concurrent players is a very good way to tell if a game is dead🙃

[@williammal2166]

this youtuber looks at google trends instead of current playerbase lmao. supercells playerbase has been stable over the past year or so. and it always grows during the school year

[@Hollowdude15]

I hope one day supercell finds a way to not be dead again and great video man :]

[@ceeekaaayyy]

This video is a waste of time g

[@pamelavalencia7334]

A bit surprised HayDay wasn't mentioned. It was easy the first 30 levels, until all the animals, upgrades, equipment, and expansion cost way too much and there comes a "farm pass" that mimics battle pass. The other frustating thing is that leveling up way faster than earning coins. I don't know if it's just me, but coins are increasingly hard to earn because the production and planting times took longer and longer.

[@DR_GAMERZ2004]

Just yesterday downloaded Hay Day to see what is new. It's worse now. Just became like other games

[@williammal2166]

@@DR_GAMERZ2004 wdym lol supercell is still super popular

[@alksmusic6188]

I loved Hay Day so much but they kept adding many new machines, trees and animals every time, so it became way to complicated It was fun, I played it for around 3 years

[@perfectsoulmates2023]

I spent zero dollars on clash and I am maxed out completely. Its a game that requires what most people lack today (patience and strategy). Clash is not for everyone and yes, supercell's greed is very unfortunate.

[@bound2thefloor1]

I really think COC would make a great cartoon. I love their shorts. 15 - 20 min episodes would be fun. Like season 1 could start with the base and characters at LVL 1, season 2 everything is LVL 2, and so on.

[@UUhm_1dk]

Are you talking about the animation being 3D? Cause there is already a COC cartoon that is 2D animated.

[@stevedeniz1]

There is already a 2d cartoon named "clash a rama" check it out

[@iceinblack7603]

Nice video. I still play coc. Started in 2018. It's a weird game in context. The game play loop is fun. I think the situation of supercell is to be expected seeing the age of their games. Games usually can't keep most of their fanbase after years. The games are still fundamentally sound and fun but now they just blend in with all the other mobile games on the market. In my case I usually play for a few months, then stop for a few months and then pick the game back up.

[@artluka0727]

every player of CoC does that, play for 2-3 mounths, stop for 2-6 mounths and it comes back again

[@cool_kid1491]

@@artluka0727 exactly

[@NamanPaulAWESOME]

loved the video man, also on point!the only reason i stopped playing clash of clans at level 103 was the wall upgrades that honestly exhausted me

[@williammal2166]

bro supercell isnt dead. he looked at google trends instead of current playerbase💀

[@renzoosuna9833]

Clash of Clans is not dead, a lot of people just took a break from it. Because you can't make 100 Million People play Clash of Clans for 10 years straight

[@bonucci74]

My favorite is clash royale, that is the first "big"( online ) game that i played. Before Clash Royale i played games like ice cream jump, puzzles and things like that so clash royale was whole new experience for me. I started playing it 4 months after release. I remember when i came to school and i saw everyone played that game, i was so hyped to try it. I remember the feeling of fear when i was arena 7, i was so scared to play because i didn't want to go to arena 6 again. First legendary card, Inferno dragon, that was special. And almost everything about that game has something special for me. Memories are tied up to it. To this day i play it and it is still my favorite game. I played pubg mobile, brawl stars, coc but i left them after some months. So yeah, pretty special game in my life

[@sh-bm3is]

Calling it 'Dead' is too much.

[@reallord_prestonian5184]

Been playing CoC since 2014, and CR since early release and had a family clan in both. Can't believe how grown up everyone is now and all the memories that have become nostalgic

[@shre6619]

Well, the reason everyone got into coc (as u mentioned) was that, no mobile game at that time was strategic, deep, and long term built. (using mobile hardware at that time, to its peak) But, then their newer game brawl stars(BS) is good, but lacks graphics, gameplay depth, complexity (just look at pubg, fortnite) and social features. (BS is very shallow and not at all social.) I made a lot of friends in coc and cr, but not in BS. So, when my irl friends left bs, i also stopped. (its installed, and check here n there, but not much)

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Makes sense

[@youtubecop674]

i just googled brawl stars graphics and to be honest they look like 50x better than royale or of clans which look really bad in comparison and are dated and low res

[@dashinking]

I find bs at least a bit more social than you say because you often have to play with clubmates or friends to achieve goals (club league or challenges). The game is also a lot more reliant on teammates for winning because playing randoms is honestly a chore, so I'd usually ask someone to play with. It's also the only game I ever joined discords for and I got to meet a bunch of people through that but that's just my experience

[@itzlion6529]

Dude the thing I did to combat that was join a club and their discord so I can atleast play with people

[@3takoyakis]

Tbh I have MANY good memories with bs but now it's just BS. They try to make it competitive yet they were having motto about family friendly and very casual. This is very contradictive directions they took and from there it's already falling for me No chat, no system on how to advise which hero to pick and also no global chat. They never fix those issues. Also, they never seems to be taking BS seriously despite its potential to be the next big deal for SC. All they done now is making fancy update vids every now and then which then followed by other SC games

[@lingling21100]

So here it's laughable to post all these info but don't post any info about the actual number of people or the actual revenue it brings in. This video is useless and gives you no info. It's based on your opinion.. and also same thing can be said about your youtube videos

[@sanmarinyo]

Supercell shouldn't stick to just Mobile. Their games would be wild on the PC or even consoles!! They are limiting theirselves...

[@WeavementSesestea]

One reason that people don't mention about Supercell is incentive to even reach late game. If you're just upgrading walls and doing more of the same things at mid game, then why even try to keep playing, let alone spend more money for diminishing returns? It would just get boring.

[@hansebob5957]

Wtf the game is still good

[@PauIdenino]

Why are you talking about "interest" like it determines how alive a game is? What does that even mean, google searches? Of course the interest is gonna go down as the game ages. There's no game that doesn't happen to.

[@BeanstaIkk]

I started playing again for the first time time since 2014, in January & have been enjoying everything so far. But being in a very active clan probably helps me with that.

[@pingu6338]

Well.. when you have to upgrade something for 2 weeks or even a month.. you started forgetting about it

[@Breadaphil]

yeah I started another two bases for clan capital attacks and I’ve been more into the game

[@kelvin4910]

and they can easily fix that but then people wouldn't spend money

[@AdmiralMEOW1]

I remember really enjoying Clash Royale when it first came out, but then as I approached end game I realised how much it incentivises P2W, and it completely killed any enjoyment in the game. It's a real shame, it was actually really fun to begin with

[@artluka0727]

yep, clash royale was the worst of them on p2w

[@DemiCape]

clash royale is not that much pay 2 win in my opinion. I am free to play and have 3 maxed decks and level 14. Not to mention they have made the game way less grindy these days then it was years ago.

[@DemiCape]

Overall clash royale is way more free to play friendly than ever, especially with the mastery update.

[@DemiCape]

I can however say that the matchmaking is sometimes bad and you end up meeting someone way higher level than you, then I can see the frustration, other than that, what matters the most is the skill, if you wanna do challenges at tournament standard card levels. I for example can easily beat low arena level 7 player as level 4 because they just so bad at the game so skill does matter more in many situations.

[@artluka0727]

@@DemiCape delusional, CoC you don't even need to play against stronger players like CR, you can just farm, play wars that are balanced for your th level, the new clan wars on weekends are balanced to your whole clan and based on strategy even more clan games are just easier to finish if you are th 14 but still easy on low th pushing trophies isn't frustrating like play 1v1 on clash royale even if you are behind, now you can outplay people on CR that are stronger than you but it's boring to try so. Btw i don't know how to type in english xD

[@hannazakiy9861]

walls are supposed to be a way to dump your excess resources while waiting your builders to complete their upgrades. because it's so easy to get resources

[@penguinlord-yt9xc]

Man I miss playing clash back in 2014, I would just talk to people on it. Now every clan seems dead the only messages are occasional donation requests

[@dabruh6997]

i don't know what you are talking about, i could easily find new active clans with real people, if you know how to find em it gets real easy, sometimes if you are above th 8 you will get some invitations aswell, those clans are usually filled with at least 5 or 7 active players and then just donate andys

[@penguinlord-yt9xc]

@@dabruh6997 yeah only 5 or 7 are active, not 50. I used to join clans where everybody was active and talking I haven't found one since

[@dabruh6997]

@@penguinlord-yt9xc honestly back in 2017 i didn't like those clans, while i was 12 at the time, there was a lot of inappropriate things or just annoying people that played the game, now days while there are less people online at the same time, it is a lot better tbh, you can have actual conversations now, not that i really could have a conversation with a fellow clan member at that age but you get me right??

[@penguinlord-yt9xc]

@@dabruh6997 yeah I suppose that makes sense, I didn't play much in 2017 though. I just remember in 2013 and 2014 I liked all the clans I was in

[@babayaga5084]

They need to collaborate with other companies which are trendy and integrate events related to trendy stuff. They still have this amazing collection of games which have stood the test of time, now the need smart marketing which will only come with events. Tbh games like fortnite and pubm has mastered this formula.

[@arnavsahni688]

Brawl Stars did some collabs with PSG and Mr. Beast. It use to be a good game but alot of people including me lost interest after the gears update

[@OMGoobero]

Game isn’t dead. There are so many clans and players that play actively every day.

[@ooledcoda]

yes, but the games have lost relevancy and they all have gone pay to win ya nonce

[@beavertds2569]

This video is just a cashgrab

[@erfanwardana9769]

with 24/7 its easy to max out considering supercell needs to update CR every month while COC need like 6 month before it was updated while updates was'nt much like CR

[@mlgkoalaplayz8977]

I would love to see more documentaries on mobile game that might fall down on this channel.

[@tushar_22]

Supercell isn’t dead at all. It’s here to stay.

[@Beyondry]

I was first introduced to coc and cr in 2018 by a fellow classmate the gameplay was unique and fun I kinda loved everything about it ever since that day I got hooked almost every week from the beginning of 2018 I would play the game to this day over the years supercell ruined the game with changes itself it's no longer fun like way back in 2019,2018 supercells is pushing hard for people to pay for play passes a month for $5 people who pay $5 they get fast upgrades or get more in-game resources the game itself it's no longer original they now focussing on how they can make money by making the game worse not to mention Cr the most unfair game by supercell ever since 2021 I no longer play the game as before it's longer fun as it used to be btw I am th14 and level 14 in cr your welcome

[@muhammedraashid3667]

Using Google Trends and Social blade to approximate the current number of players in a game is one of the most idiotic thing you can do.

[@mohdzafar6956]

people leave. YEAH SO WHAT? most of them "Always come back"

[@user-lq9iu2fx5c]

most

[@mohdzafar6956]

@@user-lq9iu2fx5c i already said most . because of similiar comments.

[@timothywise087]

Not true you need strategy and practice to have good attacks.

[@TheLukasWolfs]

I used to be so addicted to CoC with my friends. But those micro transactions. I made it to Town hall 9 and had almost maxed out everything with just half the walls to go all without using money. Then they brought town hall 11 and I just gave up. After that update I never played it again. Same with my friends that used to play

[@mujtabaganie1905]

I'll never forget all the memories I've had with this game back when I was young... I still play it tho but not as much as I would before

[@choppchopp9975]

Supercell is nowhere near dead, I mean, who doesn’t have at least 1 supercell game downloaded on their phones??? Yes, nobody.

[@joel3399]

Supercell games are still the bests ones on my phone even if i don't play them as much

[@Sunsterz]

Yeah but Clash isn't dead yet They had their biggest update yet! And there's no clues to it slowing down too they are still doing new content so 🤷 not dead. I've seen games not get updated for 3 years that people still play!

[@commentsurfer8507]

I play Clash of Clans because I’m a busy person. Waiting time for upgrades is fine for me. PUBG, Fortnite, LOL, and ML requires a lot of commitment to play.

[@jibkas]

I maxed out my BH and TH14 (except all the walls), playing since 2014. I believe it's time to retire this game to sweet memories. Every new update is something to do with a cycle of loot > build > wait > repeat.

[@CeZealot]

Just got back into clash of clans for the first time since 2019 and the game feels far from dead and there main channel still gets millions of views per upload. Yeah they are not as popular as they used to be but that’s a pretty high bar considering they had over 100 million users at one point.

[@rahulharidas3654]

Personally I am a COC player and have been playing the game for about 6 years...and I can surely say that neither the game nor the company is dead As a person who likes strategy and planning out things...I felt instantly attracted to COC since I started playing in early 2016. It's not p2w as many say it's just pay to progress...but if you spend tons of money just to reach the highest level without the experience and feel of the game then u are no good...it takes good dedication, planning and of course some grinding...but the developers have made the game way too easier to push past the initial levels...and they do add 4 major updates every year...which is crazy for a 10 year old game. It's definitely not as popular as it used to be but the game do still hold a pretty large player base...and some just take a break from the game, which even I did many times in the past. Overall a pretty good game and still going strong for It's age.

[@kelvinsteffen9707]

Rahul would you like to be clash of clans friends with me. My gamer tag is Motoxkelvin. I am in motorboat lvl 20 clan. Thanks for the long comment I do agree with you, supercell will NEVER die!

[@gimbatul9761]

The only thing I ever bought from dell, a random backpack a few weeks ago, and completely forgot about the order. Get a shipment notification just as you were talking about dell.

[@elismart13]

dude its actually only becoming popular again, i play it like casually since 2012 and clans are active again so...

[@carlod1605]

I've playing clash royale for a 5 years now and back in 2017 there was a new update every 2/3 months, nowadays updates are coming up only twice a year, so that clearly shows that the games is slowly dying. Also most of my (in-game and irl) friends stopped playing supercell games.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Ah yeah, I think people around me giving up the game was the biggest factor for me quitting myself.

[@joy_12]

@@LogicallyAnswered no real life friends then no fun it feels nostalgia when I remember using coc play with my friends clan wars etc then all grew up and moved on 🤧

[@eazycheezie]

And when they do drop a update instead of fixing the cards that’s been broken forever (I’m looking at you 2.6 hog cycle users) they add banners.

[@PauIdenino]

Losing popularity on google searches doesn't mean "slowly dying". Their user rates have gone up every year until 2021 and there's no official data of 2022 yet. Their revenue was almost the same in 2021 as it was in 2015 and 2016.

[@minecrafter3448]

It shows they’re putting less effort into it to focus on other games, not that the game is dying. Very little correlation.

[@PayPal68]

So what's Tencent's response... Own a large stake or 100% ownership in almost every game you mentioned 🙃

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Yes

[@deus8576]

In clash royale, I remember when my classmates made a clan and we used to max out the old clan chest in less then an hour. 50/50 active. I used to play so much 2v2 too, mirron, clone, skarmy was my fav. to play with my friends.

[@Frozoken]

where'd u get the 5% number for clash of clans from? I went onto google trends, chose all time and chose worldwide and it's currently 15% and there's been no spike or anything either.

[@thabokgolochelopo]

Great videos bro. Keep going. Could you do a rise and fall by any chance?

[@JAYJWONDERKID]

GG you are first, but not an annoying comment.

[@thabokgolochelopo]

@@JAYJWONDERKID 😂Thanks

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks for being early bro! Rise and fall of what? Supercell?

[@thabokgolochelopo]

I was hoping you could do Wonga one day. I used to see so much advertising from that company and now they basically just vanished off the face of the earth

[@theking167]

What rise and fall

[@bankstr7362]

I remember the top world player in COC was a drug dealer in SF. He spent at least $60k and when he left he made his base spell out GOODBYE. Pretty funny thinking about it. Makes sense.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oh wow

[@mkstchanlan7924]

I remember back in the days(2016),my whole class was playing Clash Royale. It was fun, we even had a clan. I remember how i was really happy when i got my first legendary card. Now though, legendary cards are not as valuable as it used to be. You can get most of them in 1 or 2 weeks. Most important of all is it freaking became pay to win. Ladder is broken. I still play though since a match only last like 3 min so it can be a time killer for me...

[@AmanRaj-hp9js]

Dude saying supercell is dead when there is still millions of players playing the game. Regular updates on all their games and even youtubers raking up million views now and then. It is obviously not as popular as back then but so is 99% of the games lives.l

[@EricOneHive]

This video is a joke right?! Nice clickbait

[@pennywise69]

Back in 2016-2017, coc was a big thing in india, but supercell never gave a f about it, no promotions no tournaments no nothing from supercell. And now when the game is dead here, they're promoting and hosting tournaments, like what ?

[@shaurya2084]

So True

[@atheoristspointofview7059]

I was a pro player in brawl stars (reached top 5 us and semifinals in us regionals) but I ended up quitting after the introduction of lvl 11 because I've always been f2p and spending another year or two of grinding before I'm allowed to play competitively or push ladder was ridiculous

[@Kamal-ti4ji]

I can feel u... Been almost one year since introduction of lvl 11..and have upgraded like only half of the brawlers to lvl 10..And my frnds whom i used to play compi with quit the game.. Not to mention there is no point in playing ladder rn.. And there is no worthy rewards for playing ranked (power league).

[@atheoristspointofview7059]

@@Kamal-ti4ji yeah I despise the fact that they keep making it easier to get to high trophy counts, it just makes the leaderboard whoever can grind the most for the longest... I remember back when 700 trophies would put you in top 200

[@atheoristspointofview7059]

@@Kamal-ti4ji you could get there from 500(the minimum if you ignored for a while cuz of trophy reset) in a single day easily if you won all your matches

[@atheoristspointofview7059]

@@Kamal-ti4ji it took 25 straight wins then but now it takes like 70

[@nanjk4224]

We all left the game but recently i am seeing most guys in my college are back with CoC and Clash Royal, it's the new Trend now

[@skysight1553]

Man I was crazy for COC during 2013 till 2018 days, I think that's the time I reached the town hall lvl of TH 12 (maxed Th 11) (I had 2 rushed th 12 bases basically for troop donations) also in june 2018 I reached legend league (just for that month after that I started losing interest), I had a clan with people from all over the world (some of them I became best friends with) but then I just lost interest after a while as I started PUBG mobile, at the end I just changed all the accounts and passwords and sold the account to one of my friends for 10k ruppes, at the time 120 dollars. (Now it's like 50 dollars lol inflation fûçked Pakistan in 5 years), but man those were some of the best times I ever had.

[@tankeyuan7582]

uhh no actually, I feel like boom beach and hay day are non-existent and brawl stars in dying but coc is maintaining. BUT CLASH ROYALE WILL CLUTCH

[@bobwashington226]

brawlstars is not dying, its a huge succes

[@tankeyuan7582]

@@bobwashington226 yeah it WAS but now it's legit dying

[@Flying_Tori]

Clash of Clans is definitely my favorite, even though Brawl Stars was introduced to me first, Clash of Clans definitely was so much more fun to progress and unlock new troops and buildings

[@DiegoSanchez-yg3rx]

I have been playing Supercell games for a long time, and I never though it was becoming dead. I love their games since I was a little kid and I still love and play their games to this day.

[@nolxckdakota9616]

Two things clash needs. As an OG player who played the month the game came out, I believe clash needs to bring back global chat and reduce the building time. I’m not trying to wait 3 weeks for one building.

[@yama9676]

Oh your an og player... Hammer and books exist now bud

[@steefthegamer3287]

Dude global chat wasn't everything. Not my problem u don't have bitches and was looking for ones that weren't there in global chat. But if a chat system determines how good or bad the game is. I'd say ur missing about all ur damn braincells. on the building time, that should be changed. But other than that ...

[@nolxckdakota9616]

@@yama9676 your post is? You know there’s a cool down for those and not everybody got tons of war medals. Some people are just slow… clearly.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@theyeshhh]

It is common for any game to go down from its peak. Heck, Fortnite was once the most popular game. Can say the same about PUBG in asian countries. So, I am not surprised about any game going down in popularity after its peak.

[@morbus5726]

That wall argument obviously came from someone who hasn't played the game very much. Supercell has been decreasing the cost of walls EVERY update. I have a f2p account, and I got maxed level 10 walls in under a week of grinding. They used to be 1 mil, now they're 200k. No one will directly gem walls, it's the worst possible way to spend gems. I think one of the big problems is how supercell is adding so many different things to the game. First it was the builder base, then the trader, then war leagues, then clan games, then super troop, then the clan capital. There's just so much stuff, and it seems like they're running out of ideas.

[@apo11ocat]

when you said they shut down their games if they were concerned about longevity, it happens for every game they make. everdale and hay day pop just happened to get further than most of them. their motto even is "games people will play for years".

[@EpicSword28]

I respect your opinion but I completely disagree. Supercell is very much doing well and they're earning loads from games. Plus, as a town hall 9 the game is honestly not that pay to win. I haven't spent a penny and getting gems is honestly not that difficult. Yeah, they make a few weird decisions here and there like adding gears to Brawl Stars and not reworking them upon demand but I still think they try their best to listen to their community.

[@3takoyakis]

They did, but not their parents company. They never take any of those game seriously anymore especially BS. As the vid said, tencent was having many game company under it's hand too. So, SC never become their priorities (as if tencent owned SC just bcs their past records, like how ppl collects stuff for collections) Although sadly it was also tencent who make a breakthrough changes in COC so the game need less waiting and gain more update

[@gecko2738]

I disagree, the company is still innovating and taking risks. During a press conference in February, Supercell announced they launched a side company called SuperStarzstudios, the purpose of this division is to develop adult games whether that be for gag games or pleasure. Although not much about the projects was shared, one of the games involves players milking a horses pe,nis for sperm and the person who fills their jar up the most wins. There was also another game that's a fusion between black jack and checkers that would have betting opitions and different tiers.

[@intelchip_x86]

what the fuck? milking a horses !?!?!?!?!?!? bruh

[@gecko2738]

@@intelchip_x86 yeah that was my reaction when I first saw the concept art at their presentation.

[@Wolfy_3878]

the bad move of supercell is that they remove global chat from coc becz not everyone used to play for maxing out base most just use chat with people

[@deRykcihC]

I keep downloading back CR because the gameplay on KZbin, my king is lv13 but my cards aren't, I ended up keep getting bullied by lv14 or all lv13 cards player. Then it keeps repeating...

[@danielpeakperformerscoach]

Coc is doing well with their latest clan capital update actually. Many of my friends have returned to playing it

[@choppchopp9975]

I feel like the main problem with supercell games is that over the years they have been becoming more and more pay-to-play. As in now they have added so many more things such as pass Royale that many people buy to level up 100 times faster than players who don’t pay money

[@Abdod]

Out of all 3 beta games they have you picked everdale to talk about?

[@Taylor36576]

Yes! A fellow friend watching this video ❤️

[@kpgcoreclashing6146]

Yeah most of the players that stay in the game, say 5+ years are the hardcore players. What I'm waiting for is the return of ESL Townhall Cup which pays out from 35k-55k. The decline in revenue clearly indicates that this type of payout in the game ain't gonna happen anytime.

[@odinborson308]

I strongly disagree to the video uploder . Maybe you were sponsored/paid by other competitors to underrate and to say things like that. Maybe after few days you will bring the name of that game in your upcoming videos for which you were paid and you will exaggerate and glorify it so that they will get few more users for it.

[@Arfanis_7GR]

This was a very well put together video but after watching all the way through,I disagree with pretty much every point and think you should have done better research and provided for stable points for your arguments. I respect your opinion,but I personally disagree and think that Supercell has a bright future ahead of them. Firstly,I wouldn’t call the games P2W. I believe enough skill,time & effort can output more progress than money in all Supercell Games. Secondly,while it’s true that many OG KZbinrs have quit or have been declining there are many that are still staying strong like OJ,and also some new faces that have seen massive success,like KairosTime,JudoSloth,etc. Lastly,the fact that they’ve killed many games doesn’t say anything. They killed Spooky Pop and Smash Land as well as 14 other games(that were only available internally) before releasing Clash Royale which was a HUGE success for them. They will eventually come across a great idea for a game that will be the next big hit on the mobile game market. In addition,comparing a casual farming game that is in Beta(Everdale) to the massively popular PvP strategy global phenomenon game(Clash of Clans) is unfair. Everdale’s beta numbers should be compared to Hay Day’s beta number as they have similar target audiences. If you read through the whole thing I hope you understood my arguments and I thank you for your time.

[@3takoyakis]

Sure, not calling a game with super slow progress that got easier to progress once u put money in it are p2w You just forget how painful it was to progress bcs you haven't played it in a long time. Ppl left bcs it's very p2w that needs YEARS just to progress. You remember only the nice thing bcs that's how nostalgia works They recently makes more update to coc and makes ppl easier to progress bcs they got bought by chinese and the new investor needs money. Glad someone finally slap sc in the face so they change the system

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks for sharing your perspective Panagiotis. I appreciate seeing how the other side thinks.

[@Arfanis_7GR]

@@3takoyakis You’re very wrong here actually. I’ve been playing Clash of Clans for 8 years now non-stop and I maxed out 6 months ago but haven’t stopped playing since. The reason they made it easier to progress through the early game was so that more people could get to TH10+ now that we have 14 Town Halls. All game decisions are made by Supercell and not their investors. They’ve stated plenty of times that each game team makes all decisions on their own.

[@Arfanis_7GR]

@@LogicallyAnswered No problem. Thanks for taking the time to read through someone else’s opinion.

[@vedantbhosle5508]

Supercell also doesn't and voice chat to the game which made pubg fun and so hit in India because I remmember alot of my school friends reconnected with each other via pubg and we also made new friends via pubg but brawl stars doesnt make it possilble Another problem with this is that in brawl star if you dont have voice chat you can not tell people any statergy so there is big problem of bad random. And as you get higher and higher in trophies the game gets anoyying to play due to lack of communication. This also create a divide in the causal player and hardcore player who uses discord or other modes. So one single option to add voice chat can change to games major problems and revive the game And Rework Gears

[@youms108]

Clash of clans turned off Global chat. They say it was a way to address bullying. Damn, that killed the vibe of the game. We couldn't recruit new people anymore. The social interactions fell, it felt lonely. I too left my town hall 10 village and after four years, returned to it. Still feels lonely, despite being in a good clan. It's not just the same.

[@MrWolf-ln1gi]

I have to disagree with your first point. Progression has never been easier/faster. Loot is far easier to get and armies are far faster to train. It took me a year and a half to max th10 when I first played. It took me a month on my second account to do it about 5 months ago. That was before they removed troop training cost too.

[@roguebot6758]

Fully maxing from th 1 to th 14 takes roughly 5 and a half years. This is just building and research time alone, not including the time it takes to farm and upgrade walls. Getting from th 1 to th 10 used to take a year and a half according to you, so if it takes four more years now, that proves his point very well.

[@Xander-uz8fn]

@@roguebot6758 but they have tl keep updating the game otherwise everyone is going to be max and quit😱, did you think of that?

[@MrWolf-ln1gi]

@@roguebot6758 I’m not sure how that proves his point. If it takes you about one twelfth of the amount of time that it used to how does that mean that the game is more grindy?

[@theking167]

Supercell is massive and these games were released years ago obviously they would be low now and you as about chief pat and molt and all the og youtubers channels are dead but look at newer youtubers just look at oj your looking at the wrong details to make supercell look bad

[@FastGuyS1]

Oj is a "veteran" supercell youtube creator. He has been making content for the fans of CRL for years. Despite that, he is still relevant to this day. A new youtuber that has been on the rise lately is Kashman. He creates CRL content and he gets lot of views on each of one of his videos. I highly disagree with this youtuber, I think supercell is in a rough spot, especially with brawl stars but that doesn't mean anything. Every big company has ups and downs after all. And don't forget, most of supercell's developers are on holidays so the updates might not be that big (excluding big special events which most probably were developed before the summer break).

[@theking167]

@@FastGuyS1 yes I know the video creator is manipulating the facts to make them look bad and by og I mean pre 2016

[@FastGuyS1]

@@theking167 oh, ok

[@RudraBrawlStars]

Been playing clash of clans for 5 years, clash Royale for 4 and brawl stars for 3 years. Super nostalgic to say the least. And I think my favourite supercell game may look like it's Brawl Stars (it's literally what I make content about) but it's actually clash of clans due to the good memories and nostalgia that it has given me. Supercell will figure out some way to resurge into popularity I have strong hopes for it!

[@Badlyanomynus]

I thought that the name was SUP ERC ELL. I feel stupid.