SUPREME COMMANDER EPIC #96 - Custom 4v4 on Setons!

[@laurynasg9932]

The only reason i am watching these videos is to learn how to describe different colours.

[@nogooglenotgoingtogiveyoum4065]

You forgot the elusive hallway content!

[@bryanrocha2035]

That is so cool, in Brazil, we don't say the exact name of the colors, except if they have more them one of The "same" color. Exemple: if a object is baby blue or dark blue, we just say Blue.

[@joaoantoniofloriano949]

@@bryanrocha2035 Azul claro, azul escuro, azul mais ou menos claro...

[@brianhopple2630]

@@bryanrocha2035 honestly, it the same here in the USA. I'm not sure if the naming is a British thing, or just a personally fun thing Gyle does. To Be Fair, Sup Com frequently has multiple shades of each color on the field, so it's usually need.

[@hybralisk]

YES! I was the 69th person to like this comment. :D

[@roidelle3817]

Honestly, 30mins in I was like, why is this game going for another 30mins? But that comeback... Damn...

[@Without_Limit_Auto]

Yudi did it)

[@thorkan12]

Right? Me too XD

[@david.bowerman]

It was the ASF wrecks falling from the sky that finished him off.

[@Yotta_Guns]

Or a lab. Maybe the same one that got the GC. :P

[@thorkan12]

@@Yotta_Guns The 5 star one. He is now God Lab.

[@cobrazax]

@@Yotta_Guns no lab was in range

[@henryward5457]

First time I've ever seen the ASF crash damage do anything.

[@cobrazax]

@@henryward5457 All crashes do some damage. Usually 100

[@Squeeler_]

FYI... Chisato == Haachamachama == Yudi. When you realize that, it all makes sense. Fantastic game!

[@septitais]

Seriously? lol, no wonder I had a dejavu with that support commander comeback

[@hogwash19]

haha. yeah that makes sense now.

[@Without_Limit_Auto]

Lol, now yes)))

[@ATPlanning-zq3ci]

funny because he got massively out played in the middle. The wheelie got him back in the game by donating mexs. Great comeback to finish

[@rigomatezoltan4302]

Oh yes, Yudi loves his bois.

[@gloglok3356]

I love Espiranto's play at 13:30, sniper comm on land to defend and use your floaty T1 and T2 lands to crush the opposite rock player before he gets an overwhelming advantage, this is so so smart!!

[@accessdenied5998]

for me it's to cocky he ain't cybran rushing towards enemy base using his commander

[@aaronwentzel8695]

@@accessdenied5998 My guess is it was based on scouting to see that his opposing causeway had gone turtle. If you opoonent isn't coming for you, may as well make a useful play.

[@CameTo]

@@aaronwentzel8695 exactly that

[@badAim2]

Gyle when Mavor gets completed: - And there it is (goes silent for two secs) Me: "the mighty penis of doom" Gyle: the mighty tool Big disappointment 😒

[@Zappygunshot]

A rose by any other name x)

[@HDSpaceFox]

after a work burnout i cant play rts games for a while because they make me too nervous and i need to relax more. but the gyle casts are a super nice moment everytime there is a new upload. thanks for the chill evening time.

[@kspectre21]

One hell of a match here, those Labs vs the GC were amazing

[@mikechurvis9995]

"BITE ITS ANKLES BOYS! IT CAN'T KILL US ALL!"

[@evanmcculfor7749]

That GC was made at minute 40:00 in the top pond next to the causeway. Over the next 12 MINUTES it made its way all the way around Yew's base and died to a LAB at 52:30. What a journey.

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

At about 23 minutes I was wondering “why is this an Epic? Team 2 is crushing it.” Then I remembered who was in the bottom pond for Team 1, checked the map, and said “ah yes. TheWheelie at it again with the carry, I see.”

[@vermillioncross657]

@jonasjonaitis8571nah. If not for Wheelie, Yudi would simply had not time to spam SupCom’s

[@kenton6804]

It was a team effort.

[@synthetic240]

Esperanto's Sensor upgrade did complete, btw. Kinda awkward you mentioned it being cancelled twice ;) I cannot believe he managed to take down a Monkey Lord like that. Absolutely insane game.

[@CameTo]

He does it on purpose to get people to comment, which drives the videos up the algorithm. That way more people get to see the video, and ultimately it gets more new people into the game.

[@kenton6804]

This was not a typical Setons game, I'll have to watch it again. Very enjoyable to watch, almost became a game of chess.

[@donkeybreathsuperkin]

Epic, Pros, Sentons Doesn't get much better than that

[@Spandau_Enjoyer]

Truest statement ever made

[@Vastin]

I kind of suspected where this was going the moment chisato passed 200 eco AFTER his base was completely gone. Any map where you can get control of a decent amount of water can lead to crazy runaway supcom spam that makes your economy nearly unkillable - there just aren't many weapons that can go after support commanders in deep water, and it renders almost all the game enders impotent. Only a couple of the experimentals are of any use at all, artillery is completely useless, and supcoms are too easily scattered and moved for nukes to be effective. Honestly don't know why supcoms aren't the automatic meta for any map with substantial water, especially with access to hives. Even if you ultimately lose the gate, if it's already put out 10+ supcoms by the time it goes, that's a total victory, whereas the loss of any other facility is a real loss. Super fun watching EsperonTo's commander rampage though! That's the first time I think I've seem a full out offensive commander pay off past the first experimental to hit the board - watching him duel a monkeylord face to face and win (handily) was amazing.

[@Kell_Craask]

*Patrick Star:* "We should take the team economy and push it somewhere else!"

[@billygrantham5380]

The rest of the team: That plan might just be crazy enough... TO GET US ALL KILLED!!!

[@CameTo]

In the first 2-3 years of FAF, I used to play a lot, and was the one of the top front Seton's players. We killed a team of top FA players easily, because the meta on Seton's is so unlike any other map. Man has the style of play changed since back then. Dim14, TnukSmasher, Lappen, TA4life, I miss you all and those days, BabyAlien

[@FoleyBTS]

Lappen is still around somtimes

[@PrototypLetsPlay]

last time i opened FAF was 4-6 years ago and i still remember your name. always at the top of the leaderboards

[@bobjones4779]

What happened to Blackheart and sc_account I wonder.

[@adamhall2288]

Probably one of the best matches I've seen in the last 6 months.

[@donwanna3906]

Easily one of the most entertaining matches I've seen!

[@misspurdy27288]

watching pink get pissed off in chat was the best part of this. Called light blue a tryhard while blue was shitposting in chat lmao

[@subliminalist7539]

lol yeah i was thinking the same but then realized they're probably mates with how they were chatting later in the game. Both volleying a bit of banter probably.

[@misspurdy27288]

@@subliminalist7539 They’re both 2000+, I doubt you can find a combination of people that highly rated who don’t all know eachother. Still funny.

[@Sunset2022]

What a great game! I always love watching Espi who is never boring. I think South got over-confident and didn't scout, didn't see how bad the boi situation had gotten. IDK, all way better than I. Shame the floaty in the south ocean got pulled away from the T1 navy around 14:45 -- would have liked to see straight fight.

[@Vastin]

The scouting from t2 was downright bad. They had air dominance for 3/4 of the game, but were focusing all their air on the T1 mainland and just totally avoiding the eastern pond because they didn't want to lose planes to cruiser AckAck - that cost them the game.

[@failfailwin8827]

'when my computer gets indigestion' That right there is the quality content that makes me happy to be a patron 😂

[@moistmike4150]

WOW! What a freakin' GAME!! Thanks Gyle! Definitely worth the Patreon! : D

[@Crayon249]

Thanks for keeping these videos alive, Gyle! My friends and I love these commentaries.

[@bobjones4779]

Best match I've seen for years, bravo to Pink, and great cast.

[@caiosamaral2]

Anyone knows what happened with blackheart? I used to saw him very often in the replays, but now i miss him for quite a few months...

[@SentinelRex]

always a good day when one of these drops!

[@rekomstopa1914]

I personally just play casual FA without the FAF mod with my Dad who introduced me to the game at a whopping... 4 years old. Still playing the shit out of it with him to this day and watching the pro's is a fun way to see all the potential this game brings and i truly enjoy the piece of art that is supcom, a little more. After these vids. Keep it up Gyle!

[@juicebox6581]

I get so excited whenever a new video comes out. Thx for the content!

[@Daves_Cave]

One of the best Seton's games I've seen, great cast

[@Golem-mo5wc]

ASF crash damage killed the last guy. Lmao.

[@razzamattaz179]

Ooh, my first ever brand new gyle cast. I’m normally on the back list.

[@007999999999999999]

This most certainly is one of the most insane FAF games I have ever seen, WOW!

[@Solo92762]

WOW - what an awesome game. Well done to all Players. This was really a hell of an EPIC game!!!! You guys know how to entertain - would like to see a take 2 from the same players, same side.....its not over yet. Lets see a best out of 3...or 5. Well casted Gyle!!!!

[@ummmhelp]

I did not expect chisato to respond to the mavor being built by becoming nomadic & abandoning infrastructure to fight an oceanic guerrilla war

[@nilloc93]

I honestly don't know why team 2 wasn't nuking the bottom pond, all their problems were coming from the water.

[@ATPlanning-zq3ci]

Yeah completely agree. Seemed a little strange not to expect massive nuke spam coming from the bottom ocean

[@marlonjareck7367]

I don't think I have the time to learn the game, but the comments make it really enjoyable

[@RiffRaffish]

Team 2 really fumbled not attempting to take out those nuke subs or carriers way sooner

[@grandoverlord3535]

Team 2 really fumbled the bag again and again on this one. Like they were doing great up till mid-game. It was just one wtf after another.

[@dulegoc1407]

Insane turnarround, epic game and epic commentary as always from Gyle...keep it up man !!!

[@playerone2424]

Say the thing Gyle! "Floaty floaty, naughty naughty" YAY!

[@maartenbakker8311]

On the double air opening from The Wheelie, I think you might get a reaction like: "Yeah, just felt like doing it"

[@MrWadeant]

I haven't watched for quite a while Gyle, but a fantastic game to get back into FAF! Keep up the good work sir!

[@Razgriz_01]

Wow, what a comeback. Can't hold the land? Fortify the sea.

[@edisontrent618]

56:05 Watch the chat and the right island on the minimap.

[@rodneydlouhy7409]

yo new Gyle cast and a day off from school. w

[@oddlandlad2804]

same!

[@oddlandlad2804]

always good to see this stuff!

[@JJS563]

Chisato man of the match. Lost his base only to turn into a mobile RAS powerhouse and spamming bugs, GG

[@veryanonymous3630]

tbh I'd like to see a game where sitting back and just ecoing wasn't the strongest possible strat

[@edisontrent618]

Yeah, that's pretty much always Yudi's back up plan.

[@CxOrillion]

I feel like Nory really dropped the ball scouting our those support coms. And Foley had some weak super nuke shots mostly due to lack of intel

[@edisontrent618]

@@CxOrillion Kind of, but Yudi really had the bottom pond covered in anti air emplacements/units.

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@veryanonymous3630 Or long range artillery spam. That's even more common, and imo even more frustrating.

[@hollowfury543]

Lol the guy said crash damage was irrelevant then kills comm with falling asf 😂

[@SuperJuicyAncap]

...."dont get *political* Gyle, they dont like that..." hahaha This caster doubles as a comedian

[@crplsteve]

NGL that cybran lab does look like a Sentinal Scout walker, must be trying to carry on the fine tradition of "Wall of Guns" against that colossus

[@Teshkul]

Only -1 speed for a few seconds and some stutter during that last air battle, amazing how well FAF runs now

[@tyriaelsoban8909]

I'm not as fond of the pro's games usually, people that i really can't learn from because i'm not advanced enough already, but this was a pretty good watch.

[@khaiberry1884]

Gyle: "It's Yew" (1:05) Me: "It's Me!?"

[@Wurgebloarf]

30 minutes in and you would think this match was done, but then... Brilliant game indeed.

[@SpicyFiur]

Shoulda helped Protect - Protect the beach when they won theirs.

[@IaJagon]

Gyle, the GC appeared up there because you can sacrifice Aeon SACUs to help complete build queues. Teleport them in, start the GC, then sacrifice enough to auto build it. I think 2 or 3 is enough to do it

[@nater-tater]

Pro Setons, must be my birthday

on rock with double air fac is for quick scout to see your opponent beach if he/she rushes island or not and to see if goes mid or not

[@Zoey--]

What a game lol that ending was beautiful. I've always wondered why people don't bother doing RAS ACU farms.

[@-NB7979-]

One Week One Setons is MANDATORY

[@Squatlock]

Turns out the real game enders were the -RASCOMs- friends team1 made along the way....

[@terrycook2733]

Ive been watching these episodes since the about 10th one its been all great content !@!

[@RobbieKiama]

How do you build a RAS preset commanders? BTW check this out 19:09 Chisato to started THAT "Commander strategy" very early! He sent his T3 worker who built quantum gateways on min 19, right when he built his I'st Monkey. (check clip) which means he planned it even earlier. Crazy foresight!

[@nemou4985]

Since first time playing I knew that support commanders are the ultimate OP endgame, experimental units and nukes dont even matter then

[@robertreinecke2198]

OOOhhhh yes, looking forward to this one!

[@dragonhawk9022]

He died to the dead asf landing on him HAHAHAHAHAHAA LOOK AT IT

[@TheHunterkiller96]

On the RASCUs, how much of Team 1's mass lead was spent on making 80+ of them? Like I loved the play, I just remember those things taking forever to pay for themselves back when I played the game.

[@Redfog-z6u]

So doing some maths from the numbers in the unit Database, a RASCU costs 6500 mass, and gives you 11 mass yield, so it takes 590 mass ticks for them to return their cost, which is if it ticks once a second which i believe is the case it takes almost 10 minute for a RAS to pay themselves back, as for how much of the mass lead is RASCUs presuming yudi got 100 RASCUs finished by the end of the game that would be just over half a million mass, so approximately 25% of the their final mass total advantage, though it should be noted people dont build RASCUs for the efficiency, they do it for the utility and versatility and resilience, you need build power to spend your mass, and SCUs are both build power and resource generation, and its significantly harder to kill them all to cripple your eco then a mass fab farm or just loads of t3 mexes (and this one is also limited by how many mexes you actually have available). on top of this once you've got a critical mass of SCUs them destroying the SCU producing facility doesn't matter because you can quickly spam another up somewhere else with all your SCUs. RASCU producing is basically investing in your future economy by making eco that can outgrow the maps mass extractors and survive your base getting destroyed

[@Vastin]

The thing is, when you have full control of a pond, it's nearly impossible to kill RASCUs, so they are far, far more valuable per mass/tick generated than any other building. Can't kill them with artillery, nukes could get one or two, but will never be worth it, all your land forces become functionally useless, most experimentals either can't engage them or are just too vulnerable in the water - and if they're dug in enough that you can't get a navy into their pond, your only option is to go all out air with massive numbers of torpedo bombers, or maybe Czars - pretty much nothing else will ever be able to engage them.

[@Vastin]

They also have the advantage of being VERY efficient in terms of APM. That entire economy he built came from two little clusters of buildings - a set of hives and a couple gateways. His team presumably fed him to get it going, but once he had out a few RASCU's it became self sustaining and then hit exponential runaway. In the meantime he literally can be twiddling his thumbs and reading a book - or usefully micromanaging someone else's military assets while they eco, given that his economy takes all of ~5 APM to manage.

[@Redfog-z6u]

@@Vastin The Wheelie fed him mass after they lost their base to keep production up, i think a decent amount of the given mass was actually wasted due more mass being given in single instances then yudi had mass storage, he got gifted about 130k mass in total from the wheelie but i dont know how much was lost to mass overflow. Then later Wheelie gave him t3 maxes with mass storage, also the SACUS he had in the pond got to reclaim basically the entire destroyed navy in the bay, which was probably a boat load of mass too

[@Vastin]

@@Redfog-z6u There is definitely something to be said for funnelling your team's early economy into one side of the map to dominate it and set up a runaway economy, while the rest of the team just fortifies and makes itself hard to kill, trading space for time to get the super economy rolling. Once you have those 80 RASCU's the game is basically over even if your enemy doesn't realize it. Never have I seen a Mavor look quite as impotent as in this battle - it might as well have not been there. Different deal if you're on a map without a decent amount of deep water though. A hard sweep with a handful of gunships could spot and tear apart a RASCU based economy in that case much more easily.

[@FourTetTrack]

Amazing game. It's always fun to see 2k+ players play.

[@Puschit1]

BTW, Gyle, the nuke subs DID get Yolo'd at around 59:00 to 59:30

[@BigChungus-zg6zw]

Can't believe Foley didn't carpet nuke bottom pond while it was an option.

[@Nate77HK]

Early game, Chisato gave up 'lane pressure' to take a term from MOBAs, and as a result his lane partner could harass both ponds with the hover tanks, which was a huge contributor to Team 2's early game lead! The defensive posture on the causeway really was a trade off then. Good play by EspiranTo, that guy proably plays LoL or Dota 2.

[@SploxLabs]

Great comeback!

[@SuperJuicyAncap]

MORE MORE MORE GYLE WE NEED MORE!

[@GyleCast]

Soon TM

[@TheBeholder333]

LEGEND OF THE BOIS

[@moroseightysix]

amazing, best response to mavor I've ever seen.

[@jeankepler]

Crazy game, lot's of unique moments.

[@greatoverlordchikonmaster7226]

The yolo explodes with a nuke when it dies, that killed Foley not the other way around

[@nahiag]

It's said time and time again, never give up. Damn...

[@Ashadow700]

Not gonna lie... I really don't like that the RAS-Support Commander strategy is so clearly viable. It just feels antithetical to the core concept of the Supreme Commander that a player can build an entire, overwhelming economy that's completely mobile and independent of their infrastructure.

[@crjs4563]

great match and commentary

[@luminatrixfanfiction]

Never undestimate the power of Cybran faction. 80 support commanders with ras presets and massive build power, and it can win any game.

[@pfeilspitze]

Chisato is a character from LycoRico, a recent popular anime, so it gets the Japanese pronunciation.

[@iclimbeverything2990]

Love the video once again gyle, thanks buddy

[@karmakh]

Excellent episode!

[@madalinbotez2089]

this game is a masterpiece

[@MagnaKay]

Man what a crazy hi-octane match.

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

Very entertaining to watch.

[@yportne6410]

So Chisato decided to build his base in the ocean and make it so big that you'd need like 20 super nukes to destroy it... solid strategy.

[@JLH111176]

seems like a LAB best thing to use against a GC, arms can only beam 1 unit at a time I'd rather it using beams to kill a LAB than a Percival ?

[@vinyl2627]

I appreciate the censoring of that players name, it was nice to see! :)

[@DominikoPL]

I loved watching Esperanto's unorthodox tactics work and was sad to see him go. What a disappointment that in the end the game was once again won by boring RAS ACU cancer spam

[@EraChanZ]

Awesome match to watch!

[@benjaminhoover6427]

Looks good, my dude

[@elethio]

That was an incredible game WP

[@monkman1136]

Thanks Gyle

[@CarlisleFox]

Yaaay thank you Gyle

[@yokyopeli1104]

In addition of epic this was hilarious :D

[@Chaos55555]

Why didn't blue help out the lower pond once he won his one? He could have build support factories there and influenced the outcome of that pond.

[@lukasmorski-zmij8030]

Great game and played :)

[@michaptak4314]

omg i found me new calling, watching sup com(maybe even fa) games