Surrogacy: the good, the bad, and the money (with Sam Mathews) | The Real Stuff

[@makayla4292]

I felt uncomfortable hearing how she spoke about sex with her husband. She likes to “give him something” every other day? I don’t know, I’ve enjoyed all of the other guests you’ve had but this one really did not resonate with me (which is obviously fine not everything is meant for me lol)

[@makayla4292]

also obviously the anti LGBTQ stuff that doesn’t even need to be said almost

[@slyhead66]

You lost me at the anti-gay rhetoric, and the guest implying that a gay couple wouldn’t be best at raising a child made me super sad

[@luciebfink]

Had to call it out ❤

[@CP2392]

I thought Jesus loved everybody. These religious Christians going to h3ll.

[@hillaryw7272]

@@luciebfinkI appreciate how you tried to tactfully responded in the moment, but also how you added in a clip of a confirmation of your beliefs.

[@caitlinhulsman380]

People are allowed to have differing opinions and she wasn't being hateful.

[@lucygaffneyboro334]

@@caitlinhulsman380but the differing opinion isn’t like chocolate versus vanilla. It’s saying that two people would not do a good job of raising a child because they love someone of the same sex.

[@robinsarkin-shearer4845]

When my husband and I were looking into having a baby through surrogacy it upset me to see that many of the surrogates were only willing to match with straight intended parents. I'm a bi woman and my husband is a straight man, so while we would be considered a "straight" couple in this context it made me feel very uncomfortable on behalf of my community which of course includes many same-sex intended parents. I understand that everyone has their own views but I honestly don't understand why agencies allow this / how this isn't seen as blatant discrimination. It never sat well with me and this is the first discussion of this issue I've seen. Thanks for a great episode as always, and for making your views on this clear!

[@luciebfink]

Very interesting thought about the agencies allowing it!!! Thank you for sharing. ❤️

[@caitlinhulsman380]

The surrogates are allowed to feel comfortable, too. ❤

[@amandaetheredge8266]

I’ve followed you both for a while so I was so excited to hear this! My biggest take away is that Sam has really matured from her first journey as she spoke with grace and respect for all included!

[@heloisebrunet330]

What an amazing episode, again! I really appreciate how you handle different perspectives with all your guests. I would have liked to hear more about Sam and Dan's children experience, having their parents pregnant with somebody else's baby. Sure it will be a life long family memory!

[@madie3199]

I can’t wait to listen to this episode! Lucie, thank you for this amazing podcast. You do such a great job, and I always look forward to it. Hope you and your family are doing well! ❤

[@luciebfink]

Thank you so much!! Hope you love this one !!

[@marinachamberlain9899]

Very very interesting episode, especially the hitting on religious factors. Didn't think about that. Cool episode though!! Big fan of your podcast and you since your refinery days😊

[@luciebfink]

Thank you!!!!❤🎉

[@CP2392]

OOooooofff. Sam had everyone until she blames bigotry for religious views.

[@claireashley427]

She was clear about her views based on her faith. How exactly did she blame bigotry? I didn't hear her say anything to suggest that. Also that makes no sense. Why would she blame her views on anything negative when she doesn't view them that way?

[@CP2392]

@@claireashley427 It’s never okay to hold those views. Gay people will exist whether you like it or not. If you don’t like it, don’t be gay. Being gay doesn’t make a person less deserving of being a parent if they wish to be one.

[@Ayzlin]

Love that she includes her faith in her journey ❤

[@theoto15]

Great episode! I come from the same faith background as Sam although I see the issue as more of a grey area. Am also a fan of you and your podcast Lucie. So I appreciate that even though her opinions were different than your own, you still allowed space for that disagreement and discussion!

[@luciebfink]

Absolutely!!! Everyone’s got their own views!

[@luciebfink]

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[@abbyarnold6952]

Thank you for not cutting out the part where Sam speaks on her beliefs. I actually have the same beliefs as her, but I still listen to and enjoy your podcast. I think that it is okay to respectfully disagree with someone who has an opposing opinion. The world needs more of this.

[@caitlinhulsman380]

Me too, we can believe different things and still respect each other. 🤍

[@claireashley427]

Agreed! You don't just censor part of a conversation simply because someone has different beliefs. It's not hateful it's just a different point of view. I appreciate her not cutting it out as well.