The End of an Era...

[@FelifromGermany]

*PLEASE DON'T INSULT OR HATE ON ANYONE!* Hey guys, thanks so much for your support! However, please remember that it doesn't help to insult anyone. It's an unfortunate situation but it is what it is and let's just move forward together :)

[@sluttymctits4496]

I hope more people see this. I've already seen suggestions that others go threaten these people. That's never going to solve anything and will only come back on this channel. Hopefully those toxic commenters come to their senses before anything happens.

[@Yachid]

Sux U were so rudely forced to upSet y'r entire enterprise... we R n't going anyWhere though

[@matthewwilliams2093]

I probably would have mentioned this in the video itself. Just checking the numbers, I’d guess you have at least twice the audience of your “opponent”, and my first thought was that Karen is likely to receive a deluge of hate mail from outraged fans of yours.

[@jasonpendergraft4511]

While there is nothing to write publicly regarding this situation that will change it, I do want to say Feli that you have already done the difficult part and I and the other 299,999+ other followers will stay with Feli from Germany. Your channels former title will just become an empty shell that Karen and Kevin can sit in and listen to the echoes of their own voices (except for when their attorney calls for his/her money). You built the momentum behind your brand and it goes with you. For what it's worth from a follower in the American southwest, I am happy you can move forward now.

[@Yachid]

...FYI, 'german girl in America' is Not 'German Girl..."

[@scott1957able]

Feli from Germany is fine! We'll be watching!

[@joshuajohnson2216]

I can't wait 🥰☺️

[@chrischolewa9104]

Ich also !

[@eodhowland]

Karen and Kevin. Absolutely fitting that they have those 2 names. They fit the stereotypes.

[@johnthomas2485]

Yup. She is a tool

[@Qiswhattheycallme]

Fr

[@jonathanstevey1748]

Not to mention they are from California...Karen capital of the US

[@thepensivedragon]

I was just thinking about that too.

[@Serfalon]

@@jonathanstevey1748 eh. In my experience the worst Karen zone in the US is wherever a Southern Baptist Church is.

[@oscillator72]

I’m a trademark attorney, and I really didn’t expect that world to collide with this one today! You did a great job talking about the different kinds of trademarks, and I totally agree: I don’t understand why the USPTO approved their application without a descriptiveness refusal. And two weeks to rebrand after so many years of coexistence is ridiculous, shame on the other side for that. Anyway, this is hopefully for the best, and I’ll keep watching!

[@tonymouannes]

That's what I was thinking, it's a descriptive name and its copyright is at least arguable. Also the fact that they had previous friendly communications doesn't help their case. But it's probably less headache a legal cost to just rebrand. I'm not a lawyer but I don't see how they can sue her for mentioning her old channel name.

[@burke615]

@@tonymouannes If she signed an agreement then she has to follow the terms of that agreement. That's now contract law instead of trademark law.

[@markusberg2770]

Doesn’t the tolling of time end in your specific area of law, after three years? Surely the possibility of infringement is not indefinite.

[@justus8675]

Wouldn't it be possible to sue Karen for compensation? I mean you would have to delete the trademark in the first place?!

[@tonymouannes]

@@burke615 that's true, but she could have rejected the contract. I personally think she should have negotiated it at least. She gave up everything from her own will. Probably 8n regard to not having to modify old content, being able to use a similar name (like US instead of America) and non having to censure her use of the name. For example her being able to say that german girl in america within context not as the channel's name or mentioning the previous name as being a previous name. Also she should have asked for more time. But it's probably too late now. Also that way is less stressful than fighting the whole thing.

[@robertbutler9326]

As an American, I am embarrassed by how this was handled by the other party. Why does everything have to be so contentious? You are so gracious and sweet for how you handled this, and I have a lot of respect for you. Shame on the other person for their behavior. Nothing like adding to the stereotype of the rude, brash American. I enjoy your channel and wish you much success.

[@Hatatitla76]

You, Sir, are a true Gentleman!

[@wingflanagan]

I would not blame the other party personally. She's probably a nice person, too. But lawyers have a way of winding people up because it is to their (financial) advantage. We are one of the most litigious nations on Earth, because anyone can try to sue anyone for basically any reason. I know this wasn't a lawsuit, but it's the same mindset. When lawyers get involved, they often smell blood and all reason and courtesy goes right out the window. It's a shame.

[@spvillano]

Everything becomes contentious for two reasons, both intertwined. Attorneys and money. I'm aware of one case that was portrayed in the press of one business using their surname as the business name and the press reporting it as litigation to force another unrelated person with the same surname to change their surname and business name. Obviously, it was far more complex and simple than that, but that's what you get when only journalism majors cover a story, rather than seeking advice from professionals involved in the story - half-baked coverage. Otherwise, the Johnson family would all lose their surname because of Howard Johnson's and obviously that never happened, as that was my wife's maiden name. For that matter, we'd have to change terms in various card games, as Donald Trump owns a trademark on "Trump", again, were that true, chaos would ensue. That's why descriptiveness is usually included in a trademark and "German girl living in America" is descriptive of literally hundreds of thousands of people, for just those with German citizenship, of which I doubt that the conceded trademark is.

[@DannyBear70]

@@wingflanagan Karen is an adult with her own control? Yes. Don’t play that game. Life is a set of many choices: choosing whom to listen to, believe, and what actions we take to make a better world society is all up to us individually.

[@toddmarshall2726]

As an American, you are making this ridiculously personal and being overly dramatic. Please stop bashing your fellow countrymen for the behavior of a small minority (or in this case one or two individuals). This is just the business of branding. Branding is big business wherever you hail from. Feli is clearly not worked up about it. She's found a way to move forward that is both acceptable and good for her. Yes, she is being a little passive-aggressive with her language, thereby manipulating your emotions, since she knows that she has no legal recourse. What is your excuse for acting like a child?

[@neoexplains]

The fact that you only had two weeks to rebrand your channel and rework all of the old videos is insane. Good luck building your new brand, I'm confident that things will go very well from here!

[@TheBlueArcher]

@stanley Yeah, not legal advice and i'm not a lawyer, but have definitely learned in many classis with subunits in trademark law that products in different fields and have little chance of confusion have no right to request the other stop using it... Maybe her lawyer felt that they were similar enough that it may be hard to argue...

[@SoCalGuy-gp2wl]

@@TheBlueArcher You really don't understand trademark law, do you?

[@MichaelKorte100]

Feli is way BETTER. It is so incredible you had to do this. It shows how much that other person was jealous of your brand. But in all truthfulness, the title, German Girl blah blah, is not very unique anyways. Feli from Germany or whatever is way more relaxed and unique. Feli is a cool name. I mean, Karen is like the worst name to have right now, and that other German girl, she did the most Karen thing a Karen could do! Sorry but that's total loserville, in my opinion.

[@SoCalGuy-gp2wl]

@@MichaelKorte100 Go educate yourself on trademark law, unless you want to continue to embarrass youself with your willful ignorance.

[@MichaelKorte100]

@@SoCalGuy-gp2wl Nah, it is ridiculous whether it is within the law or not. What a loser move by the California Karen. The name German Girl in Blah-Blah-Blah is so bland and lame, Feli is doing herself a huge favor, by changing it. It's just too bad someone had to get a lawyer to work out the details and force someone's hand.

[@TheDragonBloom]

This channel is LITERALLY 1000 fold more popular than the one that won't be mentioned. Feli, no matter its name, your channel will thrive.

[@brucerodgershimself]

100% !!

[@kristopherjojimiyakusu9785]

Karen's will likely decline as well, so I just Lol'd

[@EasyGerman]

This is insane. So sorry you had to go through this.

[@hello-cn5nh]

Go through what?

[@jagernet]

@@hello-cn5nh bruh

[@hello-cn5nh]

@@jagernet go through bruh?

[@jeff-ramos]

My favorite German language channel is commenting on my favorite German culture channel! Today is a good day! ❤️❤️

[@jagernet]

@@jeff-ramos Genau

[@danseventyseven]

Feli, you've handled this perplexing situation with an amazing amount of grace. I would have walked away and thrown my hands up in frustration. The world needs more people like you.

[@huplim]

Feli from Germany sounds great. Your personality defines you, not the name of your channel. Keep up the great work! 💪

[@DanielReyes-co3uo]

Keep up the good work!! We support you no matter the name

[@wpl8275]

I always say this, you make your name, your name doesn't make you. The other woman can be German Girl In America, and not have any viewers or sponsorships. Feli can be Feli In America and have lots of viewers and sponsorships.

[@nickhydier1201]

Got worried there for a second. Changing the name to Feli from Germany gives it more of that personal touch, which is great.Always love your insightful content.

[@Jeweliedear]

Agree

[@NormanF62]

If you thought she was closing down her channel and returning to Germany, the clickbait might have given that impression! At any rate, for Feli things worked out for the best and we’re glad she’s still with us - just under another channel name.

[@Stratos53100]

Yeah with the look on the thumbnail i was afraid she would say its the 'real' end of it.

[@nickhydier1201]

@@Jeweliedear Absolutely.

[@nickhydier1201]

@@NormanF62 Yes, it did give that impression to a degree. Yes, things have worked out best for Feli. And I'm certainly glad she is still with us.

[@trr006]

Lesson learned - secure a trademark for "Feli from Germany" as soon as possible.

[@reywashere5284]

Luckily, just existing with a name is enough to mark your territory generally in US copyright law. Notice that the other girl from Germany didn't copyright it till 2020 this year - but their case still had merit because they could prove that they existed long before that. I'm sure Kari and her team checked that they would be the first to use this name.

[@jacklewis100]

No, Karen claims that she owns the word 'Germany' and Feli's crappy lawyer agrees... :-(

[@donfleming7062]

@@jacklewis100 I wonder how the German Government would think of Karen's claim to owning the word Germany!!

[@reginafallangie2867]

More accurately, Karen is an American woman, with German ethnicity, born and raised in the US…With German traditions at home, but immersed in American culture and lifestyle all day/everyday outside of her house, and throughout her entire life and childhood…There is definitely a distinction between that and “German girl in America”.

[@Milesco]

I like your screen name. 😁

[@vonNachtmahr]

This Karen is as German as autumn the driest season in the year.

[@yjk5737]

At least she's only a 2nd-generation immigrant. Not like if I tried to claim to be "German in America" as a 6th-generation immigrant German American where my most recent ancestors from Germany moved to the U.S. in the late 1860s.

[@michaelvollmer9491]

To make it clear: Karen is not !!! a German girl, never have been a German girl and never would be a German girl. 👍🇩🇪😎

[@Klarpimier]

More accurately Karen is an angry entitled white woman which is different from “German girl in America”

[@lylejames8079]

We're all behind you Feli. The high road always wins out and we will follow you!

[@panda0911]

The way you handle the whole thing says a lot about you, all the respect!

[@klonowskierklartrohrleitun4241]

Karen and Kevin - OMG, Stay strong, Feli - you are the real German Girl in America, no doubt about it

[@kleckerklotz9620]

Yeah, those names are scorched earth for Germans. LOL...

[@StefanJonasson]

Feli from Germany - a brand name that represents everything kind, gracious, entertaining, and wholesome about German language and culture. It's sad to see what you've had to go through, but it's you and your effervescent presence that makes your channel worth watching. Your old name just made it a little easier for newcomers to find you; it's now up to us devoted fans to make sure your success grows by sharing your videos with our friends. Quite honestly, your channel is not just informative and entertaining, it brightens my days and has helped me feel better connected to my German cousins in Hessen. I would welcome you re-releasing old videos with your new branding. Let's face it, North Americans love watching reruns of old television shows, so why not reruns of Feli from Germany? And as I think about it, some of those old television shows are rerun with updated openings segments because the producers changed them over the seasons that the show ran. ("Petticoat Junction" comes to mind in this regard.) So go for it! You might also want to do a new episode "Crazy American Laws!" to complement your "Crazy German Laws!" episode. Your perspectives on U.S. copyright and trademark law are spot on. Sadly, it's often not creators and artists who are most protected by America's laws in this regard, but rather those who often trade in the creativity of others.

[@_vinterthorn]

I'm really astonished that "the other channel" actually managed to trademark a rather generic term that's a common way to denote a person. Especially since it's not even a true statement on her being a proper American, not a German in the US.

[@linibellini]

I'm shocked about that too. Also this Karen person is mostly blogging about Bavarian (where Feli is from) things when her family isn't even from that area or culture at all. Her ancestors are from Schlesien, Preußen and NRW as she claims herself. So she's not only claiming to be German when she's American but also appropriating another culture that isn't hers. Seemingly all for the money, that should be clear after a move like that

[@JoeZyzyx]

Yeah, I didn't realize one could trademark or patent a generic phrase like that. I remember some court cases back when Microsoft sued for the name "Windows", when it was already commonly used across the computing and programming world even before Microsoft named their OS such.

[@Madchemist002]

@@Rafaelleao1977 Why are you being sarcastic? It is a good question. Generic names and terms often struggle to get trademarked due to their wide use.

[@federicosbetta1368]

@@Madchemist002 it's not the generic term the problem, trademark protects customer from confusion, there were no problems between apple corps and apple inc. until computers started to play music.

[@BnORailFan]

My wife is a first generation American with both parents born and lived in Germany but she doesn't consider herself a German girl in America but an American. If this Karen woman has only visited Germany a few times I wouldn't consider her a German girl in America.

[@toaster4693]

This has always been one of my favorite KZbin channels. No politics, no stress, no anger, just a friendly smile and entertaining/educational content. I don't really think it matters what your channel name is. You and your hard work are what make this channel great and I will always be here to support you. Thank you Feli. 💞

[@chej]

Feli, you’re a class act.

[@macnachten8822]

Here here...Salut Feli

[@kevinbrady6075]

Amen to that!

[@SoCalGuy-gp2wl]

Class acts usually don't infringe other people's trademarks.

[@brettrobinson2901]

@@SoCalGuy-gp2wl I think she did a classy job of explaining in her layman's terms the unforseen problem she encountered and her attempts at a remedy....if Karen & Kevin hadn't been so stiff-necked and obviously uncommunicative this innocent mistake could have been handled in a friendly and mutually beneficial way. So..yes ...Feli IS the classy one.

[@tonykinlan]

@@SoCalGuy-gp2wl Hi Karen/Kevin

[@tamerat3794]

My Dad, who is 90 years old, was just here for a visit and couldn't wait to show me your videos! So I found your channel after you changed it to "Feli from Germany" and think it's a great name too! It was so much fun to watch them with him! My brother speaks German very well so he and my Dad have been to Germany a few times and loved it! Thank you for making your videos, I love them too!

[@societysbasement5369]

Also - definitely go for re-uploading some of your best early content, Feli. A lot of people may not have watched all of your old content, and this would be a great "refresher course" on your channel!

[@jerrihadding2534]

What a shame that an actual Karen really acts like a “Karen”! I can only imagine how puzzling and shocking this situation must be for you but I heartily congratulate you for your clear thinking and restraint in attacking. I don’t care what your channel is called, I will be here for it. As an American old lady who lived in Germany for 10 years before moving to Sweden, I enjoy your content and perspectives enormously. Viel Glück!

[@bazoo513]

My thoughts exactly - that Karen might have as well been the source of "Karen" meme.

[@somebodysomewhere358]

Why would you move from the US to Europe? Europe is so old and boring

[@susannabonke8552]

@@somebodysomewhere358 ??.

[@kennethkho7165]

that Karen broke trademark laws from the person with the original Karen name

[@jerrihadding2534]

I moved from California to Northern Germany as a result of a dream I had as a teenager. I yearned to experience a different culture from WITHIN the culture and not as an observer on the outside. I first lived in Paris for three months while waiting for the completion of the paperwork required for my job in Northern Germany. It was awful for me - talk about culture shock! But it helped prepare me for Germany and in the end I came to truly appreciate Paris. I turned 38 two days after arriving in Paris. It took all those years in between to finally fulfill my dream. If you find Europe “old and boring”, I suggest that you focus your energy on creating and fulfilling a dream for yourself that lights your life. Good luck and happiness to you!

[@FelanLP]

1: a girl born and raised in California is not a German girl. No matter where the parents came from. 2: you are a German girl who lives in America. That means you ARE a German girl in America and THAT means that YOU are the German girl in America. I don't understand how someone can be serious while saying something else.

[@oehosi]

Karen wants to be DISTINCTIVE but carry the benefits of the DESCRIPTIVE advantages that in fact have been built up over the years by a German girl Feli !

[@susie2251]

Why do people on this video have such a hard time understanding dual citizenship. If she was born to German parents, she is German (as well as American if she was born in the US). Most of the people upset about her being German would be up in arms if they had a child born abroad and their child didn’t get their citizenship.

[@susie2251]

@@laurie7689 “We use geographic citizenship here.” This is false. Geographic citizenship, or jus solis, is just one way to have American citizenship. Children of US citizens born abroad also have rights to American citizenship under the specific rules in place at their time of their birth. This is citizenship through jus sanguinis, or blood. But either way, what would US citizenship laws have to do with someone’s German citizenship? German law determines German citizenship. That’s it.

[@FelanLP]

@@susie2251 dual citizenship or not is irrelevant. I can't just study a culture and call myself being a person from there. If you aren't born or raised in German or have lived there for a good amount of time and therefor have nothing to do with German (besides just your parents) nothing qualities you to call yourself a German. This goes for every other country aswell.

[@FelanLP]

@@susie2251 or in other word, just because you have the German citizenship according to some peace of paper in America does that not make you German.

[@TheCocoaDaddy]

I'm just now learning about this situation and I must say, I think "Feli from Germany" is a brilliant name and I actually like that much better than the previous name. So, kudos to you for coming up with such a great name for your brand!!!!

[@charcoalc5]

If anything, I think the way you handled this shows how much more German you are compared to your American counterpart. You are so professional, polite, and beautiful inside and out. Liking and subscribing with the bell on all my accounts. Keep doing what you love! I'm a huge fan!

[@Sam_splatter]

Karen, the American from America. She’s definitely speaking to a manager at this very moment.

[@MrZevv]

Yeah.. but the manager is as intelligent as Karen is. She surely hurted herself more then she knows yet.

[@Aikman94]

Lmao

[@Johnny_Nitro]

A Karen with a Kevin (male Karen) as a brand manager. You can't make this stuff up. 😳

[@Aikman94]

@@Johnny_Nitro Feli has just experienced a very American thing

[@Johnny_Nitro]

@@Aikman94 no kidding, poor girl. Karen's and Kevin's ruin everything. Thankfully the police didn't show up at Feli's house.

[@blairclavel315]

Long time listener, first time caller. You are doing exactly what you need to be doing! For 30+ years I've owned and operated a business (200+ employees) -- trademarks, patents, lawsuits -- everything. One day the fire department wants to shut you down for an illegal extension cord, the next day you're dealing with employee theft, the day after that you get sued for trademark infringement. Every day there is something that makes it nearly impossible to focus on the business plan, any yet, that's what you have to do. Onwards and upwards, Feli from Germany!

[@chrisb3522]

Ironically, you have been introduced to an American "Karen." Someone who thinks that they are better than you, that it's her privilege. This is absurd, because you are the true definition of a German girl in America. The bottom line is, she was born in America, so she is an American citizen. She is a false example of what you truly represent. I will always support you and your channel no matter what. Stay true to who you are.

[@Tyler-es]

Well said

[@Seegalgalguntijak]

I totally agree. I find it fitting that she goes by the name of Karen.

[@kevinfeeney5309]

Yup, I am never visiting Karen's website nor spending a cent on any merch she may have.

[@beatricesomeone3300]

i wonder what Karen think she gains from this...

[@nomorevids0]

Yes boi, do it

[@DonnaLang42rockglobally]

When I saw the title of this video, I thought, "Oh, no! Is Feli leaving KZbin?" Fortunately that isn't the case; I'm glad you're still going to be creating and uploading content. I'm rooting for you. ^_^

[@amusliminusa]

Oh, I thought the same.

[@jeffmckee1825]

Thought the same here as well. relieved that it was not the case!

[@roncenti]

Yes. I was shocked and thought that something horrible must have happened to give up such a great and (I think) successful channel. I was relieved when it was just a name change then got angry again cause it was trouble from such an insignificant, not even German woman with a website so outdated that it could have been hosted on Geocities and a youtube channel with so few views that she does not even exist. If it was a giant corporation... Yes. That would make sense but this tiny Karen person.

[@perryanderson5642]

You have the Most Beautiful Voice on You Tube. I Hope this turns into something Positive for you and Heavily Positive on the Financial End. Seriously,, your Voice is Very Comforting. And I'm Sure I'm Not the Only one who feels that way.

[@robertbutler9326]

@@roncenti Wow! I have not heard the name “Geocities” in a very long time. That’s a trip in the Way-Back machine.

[@enbocadelobo]

You will always be my true and favorite “German Girl in America.” No substitute.

[@commonstragedy]

Kudos for such a good attitude about dealing with such a crappy situation.

[@julefelton5120]

"Feli from Germany" sounds good-- I trust that everyone will become accustomed to the name change quickly, and that you will continue to enjoy your well-earned success.

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Put that over the areas you have to blur out. Feli from Germany. Too stupid to have to do this!

[@davidsmith3263]

When you’re doing well, people want to bring you down. I bet this will make your channel even better!

[@fredericmartinez3807]

That's what we are here for !

[@danhaycraft9321]

Feli, my father is a retired defense attorney. By the end of his career, he hated plaintiff's lawyers with a passion. I wouldn't be surprised if Karen had very little to do with this...that her lawyers saw an opportunity to make money if you decided to fight back, and might even be a bit disappointed you folded. The algorithm has been sending me your videos off and on for more than a year now, and I've been interested, but I admit never enough to subscribe. But I've been in the background of enough meetings to completely share my father's opinion, and so that changes NOW. Liked and subscribed.

[@cimareco3617]

😍😍

[@craigkowald3055]

Sounds like you got ambulance chased.

[@BrianKoppe]

I was surprised to notice after watching this video that I wasn't already subscribed! So of course I subscribed right away and rang the bell so I get notified about every video!

[@danhaycraft9321]

@@craigkowald3055 Many times. My father was involved in some pretty dirty cases, and as you can imagine as a defense attorney he was often on the "wrong" side. (Knowing the real story behind these cases and how complicated they were has made me extremely cynical). Even in these, he found that as the way plaintiff attorneys were paid changed the cases became less and less about the actual client and more and more how much the attorneys could milk it. He'd probably tell you that there are very few plaintiff attorneys who aren't ambulance chasers anymore. I'm glad Feli is still able to smile. It's a beautiful smile.

[@Aktivist1000]

@@danhaycraft9321 Regarding the smile: Just imagine that in Europe you can in appearance often recognize even the region where the person comes from, we don't move that much. And here you see a Bavarian beauty, you would hardly find that type anywhere else.

[@rmf11699]

I found your channel yesterday and started with the oldest video and began moving forward. The blurred image of the Cincinnati background was confusing and other things that were blurred. Now it makes perfect sense. I wish you continued success!

[@PWO5064]

You'll always be the quintessential German girl in America to me. That said, A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. You could change the name every month and we'd still keep watching. Keep the uploads coming. This 2nd generation American from Austrian ancestry will continue watching.

[@salbuda6957]

Aren’t you the charmer! Tryin’ to get her to blush?😇 Very cool though.

[@Shadowfax-1980]

Karen should be called German American Girl to be more accurate. With that being said, I think it’s good for you to have a brand name all to yourself that you don’t have to share with anybody.

[@marklord2221]

Genau

[@kevinfeeney5309]

Totally agree.

[@thefisherking78]

GAG lol 😂😂

[@ITIsFunnyDamnIT]

Her channel should be called Another Karen in America. This way everyone knows what kind of trash they are dealing with.

[@pjschmid2251]

Wait a minute her name is Karen and her SO is named Kevin LOL 😂. At first I thought you meant “a Karen“; it turns out it’s both. I can’t believe those are the names 🤣

[@charliecrawford3776]

It is truly sad that this woman would treat you so unkindly, when you did your best to co-operate and work things out. You showed real class! The title of your video was scary, because, at first, it appeared that you might be going off KZbin. I'm glad you are still here. I wish you all the best going forward. There is a great deal of love toward you from your fans. No matter what name you use, we will be here to watch and learn. Viel glück!

[@dirtcop11]

Well, her name is Karen, so what else did you expect?

[@jwestney2859]

Respect for you Feli. You are handling this very well. Some day you will look back at this as a bump-in-the-road. Very best wishes to you.

[@maryannebryce5210]

I was never confused. In fact I never heard of her, she has you to thank that we have even heard of her “brand”. How stressful to change everything I’m so sorry. Hope you will eventually have peace to be done with the contention. Remember to forgive and move on with life. And remember that we love you!

[@JGW845]

Your subscribers and followers will remember the reason for your rebranding and remember even more the class and adaptability with which you handled the situation. It's just made us admire and love you more!

[@dottidal]

So sorry Feli, that is such a shame. You’ve been very straightforward and kind to them, despite their less than respectable behavior. Still here for you regardless of your brand name! ❤️

[@Styk33]

I was curious about this other channel with the copyright. So I went over to see what it was. Outside of political content, I don't think I have seen so many "unliked" videos. It is good that Feli is such a good person and just moves on.

[@birgitmaier7198]

“Feli from Germany” sounds great and you have an AMAZING attitude! Your maturity and fun personality will take you far in life. All the best from NYC!❤️

[@billmerryman5270]

Birgit and Sabine, my two favorite women's names.

[@rubenvalverde6548]

Feli von [aus] Deutschland!

[@Poseidonjd]

The most American experience you've ever had, isn't it? Much respect for how you responded and wishing you the best for your future endeavours under this new name. I enjoy both this channel and Understanding Train Station. :)

[@DayMcCArtSapphireandIron]

Exactly

[@ronaldadams241]

Sorry you have to go through this experience and you are handling it very graciously. I think it is a good idea to reload some of your most popular videos from the past. Good luck, I will continue supporting your channel.

[@geosophik9369]

I don't mean to offend any Karens, but acting like that and demanding a 6 figure compensation to "use her name" just emphasizes her name, and proves she is American and not the "German" she claims. She was born and raised in California, so she is just an American with German parents. A website and KZbin are different things.

[@baxtercol]

I agree with this reader's comment except that I fervently hope that it is not the most American Experience you have had. I hope the person who wrote this will look at my other reply to an anti-American comment. As everyone reads these comments, I think and pray that most readers will find the majority of the comments positive and even uplifting. It would be wonderful if everybody could adopt Feli's attitude and generous accepting spirit.

[@lianethiessen3897]

I’m a German girl living in Canada and love your videos. Very frustrating and unprofessional what happened, but I admire the way you’re handling it and your grace in all of this.

[@tracycagliero129]

Feli- you’re so cool about this whole situation, love your cooperative attitude - so different from the other party.

[@RADALGANG]

KAREN AND KEVIN LMAOOO

[@sfleinen]

I agree -- how apropros!

[@JamesJohnson-iw9dh]

lol Randal google wants to translate this post ROFL 🤣

[@tonya8469]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed this 😂

[@rickor5036]

I didn't connect the dots for Kevin... just amazingly perfect 😁

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Too good to be true, right?! I wonder if those are their real names.

[@ronin7645]

We got your back. You did a good job in handling the situation and putting in the hard work to switch everything up. You'll survive this and I have a suspicion this will make your brand even stronger than before. Your community is strong and we take care of our own. Congrats on this new chapter!

[@MrLAntrim]

Seems to me that Karen was just butthurt that you are more popular and definitely a better person. I'm not sure I could have handled this situation with such grace and poise. I'm sorry this happened to you. Good luck in your future endeavors. I doubt this hiccup affects your overall success too greatly. Talent tends to overcome a lot of obstacles.

[@Myrtone]

One way to help handle this situation is protest against the following but without sending hate: *Karen registering the name 'German Girl in America' as a trademark after Feli started her channel. *A lawyer telling Feli that Karen told her to stop using that trademark, which Feli denies Karen told her. *The U.S trademark and patent office regarding the name 'German Girl in America' to be "distinctive" rather than a descriptive mark.

[@DrGalazkiewicz]

Feli has already gained 10,000 subscribers just in the time since this video was posted. Karen? Only ten last time I checked. 😂

[@markuswx1322]

@@DrGalazkiewicz Which makes the 'Karen' little more than a hitchhiker, despite appropriating and registering the trademark. Little good will it do her. You must first have content worthy of the name.

[@Myrtone]

@@markuswx1322 We should protest somewhere against appropriation of trademarking of what might seem to be a descriptive mark.

[@robinbirdj743]

@@Myrtone Snakey move, for sure!

[@lisasaba4847]

Sorry about all of this. Very impressed with your attitude and respect. I enjoy your videos! We had a German exchange student a few years ago and still have a close relationship with him and his family. We look forward to visiting Germany one of these days

[@marcpaloma2262]

I support you 100% Feli! Keep putting out your amazing content, I will stick with you through it all. And yes, I would absolutely support older videos with the new branding. Here’s to moving forward successfully and even stronger! Viel Glück!

[@dgpoley4310]

First, I am delighted that “the end” only meant a name change, which is one of the reasons I “liked” the video. Second, I think you explain the situation well and demonstrate the gracious nature of Germans in your handling of the situation. Third, I like the new name. Fourth, I would appreciate it, when the dust settles, if you re-branded your old videos about language, correct German pronunciation, and about Oktoberfest/beer culture as these are the ones I rewatch and share with others. Although I also enjoy your reaction videos and explanations of German politics/elections in a non-partisan way.

[@jenniferkelly6124]

Your loyal fans aren't going anywhere. We appreciate your content! 💗

[@klmcwhirter]

My wife and I share your shock at the absurdity of the situation in which you found yourself. We truly hope it has worked out OK for you. From our perspective ... We were in Hamburg many years ago a few times for quite an accumulation of time ... and enjoy reliving that - even if only vicariously through you. They were some of the best times of our lives. We traveled all over Germany back then - literally every region. St Perer-Ording, Berlin, Heidelberg, Frankfurt, Munchen (sorry about the spelling with US keyboard), etc.. Each location, and the people were absolutely amazing. Much like your time, we are sure, in the USA has been. Thank you for what you are doing. You are helping us relive so many wonderful memories.

[@kevink286]

I must say, you are showing great maturity in this situation. I know it was a pain to make all these branding changes, but in the end, it won't hurt you. People watch you for the cool content, not because of the name.

[@jmtopete100]

The fact that they wanted six figures, lets me know that it was about money. Not sure if it is the same in Germany, but the USA is full of frivolous law suits. Keep doing what you do. I really appreciate what you do.

[@gwillis01]

It is rather sad that there are so many shallow, frivolous lawsuits filed in America.

[@stephanclemens2348]

No. That really is probably the most american thing ever. You can not make the same money suing people or companies in Europe. So going to court to capitalize on having acted stupidly doesn't work out.

[@Sp4mMe]

After the US, Germany is the 2nd worse country concerning lawsuits, so ... the more things change, the more things stay the same?

[@nigefal]

Perhaps Feli could do another video discussing is Germany as litigious America!

[@markm6254]

I’m sorry that this is an impression of America and Americans that will undoubtedly stick with you for a while. Best of luck with your new brand, your positive attitude is a great testament to your character.

[@amusliminusa]

And through character shines a person's true beauty.

[@merbecca80]

I found you two days ago and have already watched dozens of videos. I admit to being curious about the blurring and muting but it has not inhibited my watching! Love your channel ❤

[@mikeburt5667]

Felicia, You're a real Class Act. Your professionalism in trying to talk out the issues & your response in this video shows who is the better person. Your parents can be rightly very proud of the young woman you have become. I believe you will go a long way & be a great success in whatever you do. After viewing this video I added my subscription to your channel. It's a very small thing but I hope you see a great number of new subs following you. Cheers to you!

[@tomkemp9465]

Well said. Pretty sure if I had been treated like this the air would have been blue with curses. You are definitely the better person of the two. I will still be watching your videos.

[@eldamarinadoli]

I did the same. I have been watching your channel for a long time but I have now subscribed to it. Liebe Grüße von eine Südamerikanerin aus Leverkusen!!

[@SoCalGuy-gp2wl]

Class acts don't infringe other people's trademarks.

[@garyemagee7177]

Class act indeed !

[@garyemagee7177]

Felicia handled this entire nightmare better than I would have.

[@Legilimentable]

Funfact: This whole thing also is a really interesting experience from life in another culture, so it kind of fits the channel content :)

[@nataliarevelo486]

Haha. True! I think as an expat one always has to deal with bureaucracy eventually. Sometimes it doesn't end nicely.

[@NotSoMightyAphrodity]

Yes! My same thought.

[@namarie325]

One of the worst aspects of US culture, the entitled, litigious American Karen. All too common.

[@TontonZen]

Only in the U.S.A.... Indeed! And... what's in a name: Karen! Right!

[@rarocon]

and Karen is a german American, when Felicia is a native German as well! Who of both showed more "culture"?

[@SuperzwergTina]

Liebe Feli, ist doch egal, wie der Channel heisst, solange du du bleibst :) Mach weiter so! Liebe Grüsse aus Good old Europe

[@stephanpopp6210]

Richtig. Wir wissen eh, dass Du die echte bist. Und Du bist wirklich bewundernswert damit umgegangen. Und machst auch noch Werbung für sie. Ich wäre einen Monat vom Netz gegangen, damit ich keinen bunten Strauß ungarischer Flüche poste. Weiter so! Du hast die da jetzt schon weit hinter Dir gelassen.

[@Searq66]

What an ordeal, so sorry that you had to go through all that! Wishing you the best of luck and whatever the channel name is I will continue to watch and enjoy. All the best. 👍👏👏👏

[@journeytothinify]

I’m so sorry Feli. None of it was necessary or done professionally but you’ve shown great decorum and class and will be blessed for it!!

[@ChuckyChickenCartoons]

You definitely handled that whole situation very amazingly! I’m so impressed with your attitude of trying to work together, as well as the quick turnaround. Looking forward to seeing mote of your content soon!!

[@Seegalgalguntijak]

To tell a secret, that's also a "German" trait: To avoid any kind of battle and be on good terms with each other if at any way possible. In fact, Karen showed how not German at all this old American girl really is by doing what she did.

[@quiltgalsews]

Sorry to hear about this! There was no confusion as I had never heard about Karen and her blog is etc. I have enjoyed your channel for some time! Hope all goes well with Feli from Germany

[@jjeherrera]

Since I learnt about your channel after the rebranding, I wondered why you had blured part of the introduction in some videos. Now I know! You have interesting content, and I'm sorry you had to go through this. I hope you have recovered by now.

[@mridgill]

Feli from Germany is perfect. So sorry this happened, but don’t be discouraged. I really enjoy your content.

[@rachellim9147]

👍🏻

[@rachellim9147]

Agree

[@miketaylor1942]

Kudos to you for staying so positive through such a crappy situation! We need more people like you! I like the new name, it’s cute and catchy, and as you said, personal. You’re awesome!

[@rachellim9147]

👍🏻

[@semperficamaro4443]

You are just being taken advantage of because you’re successful. Hang in there, roll with the punches and continue the great content!

[@carlreed2012]

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I really enjoy learning the things you share about Germany. Keep doing what you do and don't let these little set backs stop you from be awesome! :-)

[@incubusfan182002]

The amount of grace you've exhibited through this is amazing. Of course their names are Karen and Kevin... Props to your attorney also; going to definitely support this channel as much as possible going forward. Much love Feli!

[@terencefullick772]

Quality will always shine through, add in talent, a great personality, intelligence and a sense of humour , and clearly Feli from Germany will be an even more outstanding success.

[@jonathanbartron3658]

Of all the Toobers I've been exposed to over the years, you have the most natural camera presence. Your diction, tonality and pacing is flawless, and what little is left of your accent only provides added interest. I think you have larger worlds to conquer than KZbin.

[@ugadawgs1990]

Your content is great, and your fans are loyal. No worries. You’re better off with your own name and unique ID. ❤️

[@daisyXOXOXO]

i am so sorry, Feli!! Ich mag mir nicht vorstellen, wie stressig die letzten Wochen für dich waren! Sending you a big hug and hope you're getting some much needed time off soon!!

[@AfCan3]

Feli you are truly grace under fire. This truly highlights the differences the education and attitudes and the upbringing of people raised in Germany. You represent the best of your country, Germany and moving forward, this demonstrates true German culture. Bravo, Feli ❤️

[@treyokelly3520]

Even though I voted in the poll and I still got nervous when I saw the title lol I’m here no matter what the channel is called

[@PCJ52]

One of you has 368 subscribers, the other has 537K subscribers. Well done.

[@tr5947]

As always, you show class, intellect, empathy, honesty, and the better side of how people should be. You'll continue to be successful because of those things and more. I love the way you always try to take the high road and that's why you'll continue to be a success long after others will be forgotten. Keep up the good work.

[@virginiav.1172]

As a first generation German-American, I was mildly interested in checking out Karen’s channel when you first described it, but by the end of the video I had lost all interest in supporting them in any way. I’m so sorry you have had to go through this but I am happy you are going to continue to make videos and I will keep watching.

[@christineherrmann205]

This. It's way too similar to some of the stuff I've seen authors doing with copyright enforcement. I agree theft is bad, but being able to trademark something so purely descriptive is ridiculous. And their behavior enforcing it was deceptive at best.

[@Garagantua]

@@christineherrmann205 Especially in a case like this, when the description doesn't really fit the other person, but fits Feli perfectly.

[@janibii_608]

@@Garagantua ya, like shes not even german, shes german american whose lived in america her whole life

[@HellcatM]

They could have helped each other's brands but the way Karen handled this, it could harm hers. There are people who react to music and a lot of bands see how this can help people find their music. Some bands though don't see it that way and have the videos taken down. It's kind of the same idea here where they could have hyped each others content every once in a while and maybe even made videos together every now and then or Karen could have interviewed Feli for her blog. They could have had cross platform material that could have helped them both and it would have been interesting. But now Karen shot her self in the foot.

[@jimmefz3328]

you should have named it "Actual German girl in America"

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

That's what I thought to because to a lot of Germans Karen wouldn't be considered as German as Feli. Karen is an US American woman first because she was born there, raised in that culture and still lives there and then a German second because her parents are. Feli on the other hand, born and raised in Germany and an immigrant to the US. That is a difference.

[@st4ndby]

That’s not legal

[@BunjiKugashira1990]

@@st4ndby It's true though

[@st4ndby]

@@BunjiKugashira1990 yeha

[@brianehni5918]

@@DieAlteistwiederda Not to mention Karen is a US Citizen. Felicia is a German citizen with a green card. And after she becomes naturalized, she will still have dual citizenship, due to German law.

[@Bujbrother]

I'm so impressed by your handling of this. Your graciousness in this situation is really a great example for others.

[@brucer81]

To your credit you chose to “take the high road” and not be bitter or vindictive. I think we all see the hurt on your face and in your heart. You will profit both personally and financially in the long term because you have a solid base and are loved by all that follow you for all the right reasons. You are who you are and that’s why you are so successful. Genuine and caring, light hearted and not afraid to laugh out loud even when you are laughing at yourself. See you soon whoever you are.

[@swayme67]

It is fitting that the other person is named Karen. The irony is priceless. Keep on producing great content, and you will zoom to 1,000,000 subs. Thank you for being a lovely person in dealing with this situation.

[@xGhost4000x]

She should be ashamed for her part in reinforcing the stereotype of the name. Be better Karen.

[@Ed70Nova427]

Can you believe that? I mean at first I thought she was joking. I hope it doesn't effect "Feli". She has great content.

[@JassBo83]

Your description on how you dealt with the naming issue is definitely 100% German, her on the other hand is so American. Why is she even calling herself German if she was born here? Some of the cultural differences here really annoy me.

[@kimberlyjennings8753]

You said it.

[@richardcandelaria8043]

“Karen & Kevin” priceless irony

[@michaelalaniz7627]

You scared me. I thought you were leaving the channel. I am sorry to hear that you have to deal with an issue like this. Still like your content. Keep up the great work!

[@BenjaminLammers27]

I'm sorry you had to go through all this. We just found your channel, while trying to learn more about our upcoming foreign exchange student, and your new brand is really good and more personalized.

[@pendragon2012]

I'm sorry they're making you change it. My heart plunged a little even though I figured that's what it was. I remain so happy that I found this channel a year and a half ago and I'll follow it no matter what it's called! You put such a great product out! 😃(And let's be real you're always going to be GGIA in our hearts!).

[@rickskidmore3075]

My wife and I are very impressed by the way you handled the situation. We were wondering what happened, but not surprised as this has become the norm here in the US. People would rather sue than work together. Truly sad. Look forward to more videos.

[@ADifferentVibe]

Oh Karens.....they don't change, do they? Seriously though, I like Feli from Germany a lot because it's more personal and we know what you bring with your content. So..name change, re-upload (I'm for that) and push on!! 😃 Feli from Germany continues. 🎉🙏🏽

[@HeiggwinieHalberstadt]

I was always wondering what happened to your channel and I am glad the KZbin algorithm finally found your way back to me again!

[@avelignewynn9726]

I just found your channel last week and I saw this was so sad because I thought "The End of an Era" meant you were ending the channel :( Glad you're not ending the channel but also I'm sorry you have to go through this. Best of luck to you moving forward!

[@naomilgay]

I am totally fine with seeing old videos reappear as long as your editing makes the purpose completely clear. I have full faith that rewatching those old videos will be pleasurable!

[@arten]

When I read the title, I kind of freaked and thought you were actually ending this very entertaining channel. Finding you are just (involuntarily) renaming it was a relief. I really enjoy your videos, and think that re-uploading some of the best ones is a great idea.

[@BS-vx8dg]

That was my reaction as well.

[@JamesDavidWalley]

I thought it meant she was having to move back to Germany permanently.

[@jeffcibulka4186]

Hey Feli. You’re a lot of fun. Your smile is awesome. Looking forward to your era!!! Happy New Year!

[@ma3xiu1]

What a relief, I thought you were maybe quitting youtube! I enjoy watching your videos from time to time, as they bring back lots of happy memories when I was an Aussie living in Stuttgart, so glad you hear you'll be continuing albeit under a new name.

[@nicolehmann1853]

Karen could learn something from the craft brewing community and the story between Avery Brewing and Russian River Brewing. Without knowing about each other, they both named a beer Salvation. When they found out about it, they not only decided to leave each other be, but some time later they created a blend of both beers to highlight the best qualities in each. They named the new beer: Collaboration, not litigation Ale.

[@K__a__M__I]

Try our brand new _Cease And Desist Lager!_ And keep your eyes peeled for our limited-run _Lawyers Delight!_

[@Brian-L]

“Karen” -nuff said No matter what your brand is, I still enjoy listening to you share your cultural observations.

[@TrumpyBear_Armageddon]

Antiwhte slur

[@Jef_Jingles]

@@TrumpyBear_Armageddon any race can be a Karen

[@Vojtaniz01]

@@TrumpyBear_Armageddon "Karen" is a type of behaviour. It has nothing to do with race.

[@steveknight878]

And Kevin - perfect!

[@coolnegative]

Right? I was thinking the same thing. Karen really IS a Karen.

[@Davelakful]

For what it's worth i started viewing your channel after the name change and it works fine. Your brief description describes your channel and i found you.