Survivor Tierlist - Seekers of the Storm DLC (Risk of Rain 2)

[@Woolie]

sale star SWEEEEEEEEEP!!!!

[@Syngraphaeor]

Sale Star pog 😍

[@thegreatkiwibeast2591]

Sale star one of the items they got right first try

[@JoeyIsGaming]

[@deur3598]

[@RonZertnert]

Wheretic?

[@synnyy4098]

Gearbox did chef so dirty, it’s gotta be the single biggest dissapointment from this dlc besides the initial bugs

[@hyfynorris]

I'd rather play the mod chef, with how the DLC one is, currently.

[@louie4456]

@@hyfynorris I personally use BetterChefPrimary

[@phiphi2209]

There is a mod though that makes his primary work like risk of rain 1/return cleavers. But the rest of his kit is still so bad

[@a_cats]

it was so fun cooking enemies for temporary buffs in rorr, sad they didn't bring that back and instead just gave us healing drops :(

[@hyfynorris]

@@louie4456 Maybe i'll try it next week! Haven't played since the DLC came out, my favorites characters in the whole game were the mod ones lol... Enforcer and nemesis enforcer

[@naiythyen_tijerina_09]

I am glad Arti got a buff with soldier syringes which decreases cooldowns for her primary

[@JonathanNormandy]

Genuinely best dlc addition

[@naiythyen_tijerina_09]

@@JonathanNormandy Yes it is

[@Toucanz]

Arti is in contention for best character because of the buff, she was already high A if not S imo

[@a_cats]

she did not need it though, she was already one of the strongest

[@quintengames3576]

I love it so much... Atk speed is now one of the best stats to build on her for fast 2000% dmg full charged nanobombs and more and faster M1s

[@thezacstreetboys7701]

I see your argument that false son is “overtuned” and “should be nerfed” but have you considered that he’s just a really really cool guy

[@knightsteyri9110]

Please don’t nerf him. He is very fun.

[@gatligator4425]

@@knightsteyri9110i think he might be more fun if he was more challenging to play like rn u dont really have to think to play him

[@azura7702]

​@@gatligator4425nah

[@isaacduncan4012]

Well to fair he is a boss as a survivor.

[@squid-gs4xo]

@@gatligator4425 how? you do need to think to play him

[@groundbeef2]

I'm of the opinion that Chef is a prime candidate for collecting some of the Heretic's items.

[@waffleiron4]

The best way to play Chef is to play Heretic

[@giblegabite929]

Glaze + roll and then use the heretic items for the cleaver and sear

[@lucg4005]

Or just use the mod that changes chef's primary atk for now. It's a little unbalanced, but with how utterly garbage his abilities are, I think it's fine. Otherwise, yeah replace his primary immediately, while also maybe changing his m2 and utility. You could also argue his special isn't great either... crap that means just play heritic lol. Ok just keep his special since it's FINE and replace everything else. Or keep his utility skill and replace his special, either works.

[@callanharvey6264]

​@@waffleiron4the best way to play chef is the modded one that's been around for ages now lol

[@TheRealDismantler]

False Son really *IS* the boss when you unlock him as a character.

[@serafinvalencia2618]

Honestly glad because I’m tired of games giving us a gimped version of the boss when we unlock them 🥲

[@samuelcangussubaptista3675]

Attack speed now works on srtificer, it makes the primary ability chyarge faster. It's kind of like a secret buff with the DLC.

[@Zakara675]

Oooh, thanks for the info that sounds fun!

[@aidancrochetiere5627]

does it still increase the speed of the right click charge up?

[@spacebar-vx7ck]

@@aidancrochetiere5627 yes, nothing else was changed, it was just a buff to the primary

[@samuelcangussubaptista3675]

@@aidancrochetiere5627 Yep

[@mythlessrwf]

That’s the first thing I noticed as an arti main, it was such a delight to find out

[@sir_glyst768]

-Does "C" stands for Chef? -No, we need C tier just to show how much "D"issapointment chef invokes

[@boofenshmirtz6426]

My poor boy Chef crying in the Walk-In

[@mrbeard7701]

It's the best place to cry, speaking as a former cook.

[@boofenshmirtz6426]

@@mrbeard7701 I have three under my belt and I'm proud of it as another former chef

[@wildmonkeycar]

I dunno why Chef didn't just get his kit from RoR1- For those who haven't played it, (or RoR:R) it's literally the same thing, except his cleavers automatically return, his Sear ability is a mid-range blast, his utility applies the oil during his movement, and "Yes, Chef" is his DEFAULT special, with the alternate being a melee-range execute that creates random food that gives different buffs

[@youngmelatonin]

Arti deserves bonus points for how hard she bullies Mithrix. Poor guy cant even move when you're chucking ice spears over and over.

[@lesliejacoby9137]

Then she loses points because the rest of the game before mithrix is 💤😴💤 or you are in constant state of fear because the game is spawning only wisps and flying vermits.

[@youngmelatonin]

@lesliejacoby9137 So just like, shoot them? It's no different to any other survivor.

[@lesliejacoby9137]

@@youngmelatonin I like how you called out the wisp and flying pests but not how her gameplay loop can get very boring (especially if you don't any items to make killing things for interesting)

[@youngmelatonin]

@lesliejacoby9137 Because fun is completely subjective and not terribly relevant when we're discussing how powerful a character is. I quite like Arti's gameplay loop, she was my first eclipse 8 win.

[@lesliejacoby9137]

@@youngmelatonin ik what is fun is subjective and artificer's whole character idea is really cool, that's why I'm more upset at her gameplay loop. Her idea of being an elemental mage is sick yet she only has one optimal playstyle where you aren't praying for items which is just flying in the sky has high has possible and just charging up attack while mixing in some primary shots. Maybe if she wasn't shoeholed into the one effective gameplay style I'd be more okay with it but her flamethrower is so unrewarding. Also she should really just have more abilities with element based stuff, she has possibly the highest ceiling for more abilities from a character design point. Basically I want arti buffs because she deserves them. Till then I just prefer/enjoy the more active and faster paced character playstyles and I ain't saying you can't enjoy her.

[@carsonwinell7978]

One thing about seeker that is kinda nice is that you get barrier whether or not you “win” the meditate minigame, which means you can just spam and “fail”, but still get barrier in a pinch.

[@qualityart4004]

“Its hard to mess up on railgunner” not me dying to a child on stage 5 crying in the corner

[@dddmemaybe]

Yea, he placed Railgunner at number 1 because the skill-floor should be easy and then places Merc as bottom 3 because it shouldn't be easy. I call Sus Void Fiend's normal mode damage is also so awful, that guy can't be S tier man. His M1/M2 compared to _commando_ are both 4x worse proc rate and reduced dps on top. Especially on E8 where the healing isn't as good for you, the peanut damage is real a liability. Void ain't even a glass cannon, he's an ass pistol who has an arty flamethrower mode.

[@pham990]

@@dddmemaybe dude his normal M1 does 300% damage with infinite range and semi auto aim. It almost procs bands by itself and the band proc threshold should be the baseline of how strong a skill is his M2 is arti’s balls with more initial damage but less max damage, who doesn’t love her balls, that can also be used in conjunction with his M1 to fire 2 M1s and an M2 in quick succession his healing skill is insane, it’s so good that you can probably just scrap most of the healing items and just have a few RAPs and be fine only skill I hate is the normal trespass solely because the more speed you have, the more it just makes you go straight up so you just die from fall damage, love the corrupted version tho, I can go so far with it

[@pham990]

@@dddmemaybealso your point with him having arti’s flamethrower….but that’s his M1… his M1 is someone else’s supposed main dps special, that’s insane. it also doesn’t have a cooldown so you can just blast for a bit, run away and blast again unlike arti where if you cancel the ability, you have to wait the whole cooldown to use it again Plus Viend has a mobility skill where arti doesn’t

[@lesliejacoby9137]

​@@dddmemaybefirst off mercenary has to be in melee range and lives of immunity frames essentially meanwhile railgunner can be as far away as she wants with GUARANTEED crits. So that's a no brainer for why the harder skill ceiling isn't going to raise mercenary up to her. Second, void feind is really good. I understand what he's saying about the primary fire and think he's hyping it a bit too much but it is really consistent, has strong aim assist, and eats up with attack speed. As for why void fiend is so good since he went over him quickly he has: - A movement ability that gives immunity, a CLEANSE, vertical movement all in one - a healing ability thats only cost is his corruption meter which fills up naturally, from crits, or taking dmg meanwhile you always have healing - he has good DMG with little items. Overall just a consistent character who like other good characters doesn't need to worry about finding as many items as he can do it without (so for him healing, bandit crit, railgunner crit as well but it still gives a benefit, and then the survivors who don't need to worry about movement, etc.)

[@ATRS2K]

@@lesliejacoby9137Range in this game is not really that big of an advantage, enemies spawn anywhere, some enemies have insane range and mobility as well, Railgunner’s mobility is not great, gets overwhelmed pretty easily, try fighting stage 4 double mountain 5 Imp Overlords teleporting on top of you non stop and see how well Railgunner does, meanwhile Mercenary can survive anything you throw at him as long as you have the hands.

[@10carflo22]

It’s funny how the False Son boss and survivor are both over-tuned

[@Airborne7263]

For chef, Roll allows you to bypass the 2 second global cooldown for sear, so you can use glaze, use sear, and because you can use other abilities while rolling, you can cleaver the enemy as well while rolling

[@legomeaker101potato]

I think false son being op is not something I have an issue with... (I think an unlockable boss character should be pretty strong) though... it would be cool if it had skins for mythrix or/and providence

[@TheTroupeMasterGrimm]

Artificer got a pretty nice buff btw so her primary now scales the cooldown with your attack speed item, so your attack speed ACTUALLY WORKS like other survivors, and it’s the only skill cooldown that dosent have the global 0.5 second cooldown min.

[@ondrejmalek1322]

if you use a few repulsion plates and weeping fungi+the legendary item that heals you after you take damage makes you a sojourn nuke with razorwire seeker very balanced

[@McRib29800]

I assume you’re talking about planula

[@ArchDaemon41]

@@McRib29800 the legendary medkit

[@a_cats]

healing doesn't help much, it stops working after a while, stacking repulsion and health+shield lets you stay in it for ages though

[@speokeosai]

or you stack 3-5 topaz brooches and become invincible. You don't even need repulsion plates or wungus or planula, just brooch works.

[@McRib29800]

@@ArchDaemon41 hahaha trueeee

[@orthostice]

So glad we can be excited about this game again

[@thegreatkiwibeast2591]

Same, heck they even said they were fixing chef

[@RichardRhubarb]

“The Darkness” stice

[@nicecube2798]

No one was preventing you from enjoying it

[@orthostice]

@@RichardRhubarb such a good book

[@orthostice]

@@nicecube2798 bugs

[@eskim0220]

I just want to understand Gearbox's design philosophy behind Chef... like how did they think he was ok to release like this?!

[@jako7120]

“some of the jank we’ve sort of just tolerated”

[@kafelekpodogowy7185]

Honestly Merc became my go-to and I am SHOCKED how good he is against both single target and multi target as long as you remember about exposed passive. By far my best performing survivor since DLC dropped. I can blast music into my ears, have a karaoke night while staying perma untargetable in eviscerate and its really strong with just little attack speed.

[@PrimedLaundrySauce]

His general crowd clear has the best potential of all survivors but imo his single target is a bit lacking since you cant combo as much off of just 1 enemy.

[@ATRS2K]

Dont let this tier list fool you, Merc is the best character in the game

[@Hectorlph]

7:00 at first glance, the alternate special for False Sun seems weak, but it instantly refills several stacks of his secondary. It also gets bonus charges with growth. This effectively doubles or triples the amount of lunar spikes you can output in one fight... makes enemies take BONKERS damage.

[@RandomDood1]

I feel Rex dropped a decent bit since SOTV just because there are so many key items his kit just can't use. Safer Spaces and Plasma Shrimp are just not options unless you're using the full non damage kit. And while a lot of these big stages are really cool, it's a lot of work for characters with not much mobility to get around in. I used him to unlock the False son, but only won due to having 3 revives. My biggest gripe with the DLC was not getting any new abilities for old survivors. It could have been such a great chance to breathe some fresh air into all the characters.

[@ashreh]

As a REX main, I agree that it can be a bit difficult to get over your fear of being one shot, but it is quite addicting once you get the hang of it

[@sta0rastara929]

It's been 1 Woolie video and gearbox hasn't buffed chef. This is truly unbeliveable

[@brettwoodcock7997]

“Sojourn does a little bit of damage” A LITTLE?! IT INFINITELY SCALES AS LONG AS YOU STAY IN IT, AND YOURE INVINCIBLE

[@GarudaRamudasRumpusRoom]

he's probably ranking it based on consistency for short E8 runs if i had to guess. in that scenario you can't always rely on getting items to maintain it before mithrix and sacrificing the hp is a way bigger ask with the permanent HP reduction. for looping seeker is literally the best character in the entire game bc she's the only one with a guaranteed counter to twisted elites and basically all damage in general.

[@KhangAJ]

not everyone loop 5 times before going to mithrix my guy, by your logic, chef can literally one shot mithrix after 10 loops so he's S tier?

[@BlitzGruen]

Damn I didnt think I would see the day of a ror2 tier list that I basically 100% agree with. Also that the false son slam has a 3.0 proc coefficient is so stupid, like wtf I thought the dmg and lack of cooldown on its own was a little op already.

[@shadehopper8359]

this is the earliest i have ever been for anything in my life

[@0celot8]

It'ss so sad that chef doesn't feel good. He just felt right in rorr.

[@KunitoroVT]

That merc analogy is so real, I have played enough of him to where I can go brain off mode but man the first 100 hours of merc eclipse had me feeling pretty rough

[@tronions3470]

smh merc getting disrespected like always

[@stalehuman7585]

free my boy

[@ahmedalibraheemi8260]

Merc > everyone else

[@ROMYSjöstrand]

I am a proud bias merc main

[@3.6Roentgenn]

I would say he deserved first or second in B tier.

[@PrimedLaundrySauce]

Ye merc is extremely good if you get a good grasp of his combos and skills, if you take really good advantage of him id say hes a solid A or high A tier since he excels in clearing dense crowds of enemies, probably the best survivor in that regard where his damage output gets stronger the higher the enemy density but his single target can be a bit lacking which is what hold him back mostly imo.

[@goggles8321]

heres how chef plays: Lysate cell= win No lysate cell=curl up into a ball and cry

[@oliversearles7218]

False son is so much more powerful than chef. You forgot to mention the false sons pasive "growth" which give more secondary charges and laser length with increased max health like bison steaks and infusions.

[@scungillimane]

I have never agreed more with a tier list in my entire life, very good

[@Flare_Tc]

I honestly agree with what you said about rex, speaking of, directive: harvest still makes me upset due to that massive end lag, I mean it would be kinda broken to have it act like his secondary and give zero endlag so you can just spam out supreme burst damage, but since most run seed barrage it's already spammable, the healing aint bad its just the endlag that hurts it the most. Also great content, love risk of rain 2 and ofc rex because he is an s tier in my heart

[@Lyriques_]

Stacking Wax Quails on the False Son is Op because once you start charging the swing you can sprint, allowing you to quail jump into a grp of enemies

[@scrambledripper9181]

Ever since they neutered mercenary and put all of his power budget into expose playing anything but the alt build feels like hitting stuff with a wet noodle

[@pham990]

that’s why I always use his main kit but switch out the utility I can’t play merc without eviscerate and whirlwind is mostly there for trimping I just love focused assault so much more because it puts exposed on so many people so you can just spam skills when fighting large groups of enemies (which is 80% of the game) blinding assault is technically more damage (I think) but one miss and you waste the 2nd and/or 3rd dash, and plus you don’t get any cooldown back like focused assault

[@scrambledripper9181]

@@pham990 a fun build on mercenary with he alt skills is to grab light flux on him since whirlwind duration is longer but it keeps the same dash speed it sends you flying, your alt special always hits the same number of times and is also cancelable so the decreased attack speed is offset, so you can just constantly spam your special with either 2 lightflux or a lightflux and a lysate cell or you can cancel your special animation with a utility and dash through the target and it will instantly refund the cooldown for both abilities.

[@pham990]

@@scrambledripper9181 that does sound like fun, but I don’t really like playing with lunars, specifically when I’m doing eclipse, I just don’t like going to the bazaar that much cause it gives me too much power (5 infinitely reroll-able lunars) and control (2 soups and 2 stage selections) also the combo of using your utility with your 3rd M1 swing would be so much slower

[@scrambledripper9181]

@@pham990 fair

[@ATRS2K]

@@pham990his default utility is better, you have 3 dashes, the dashes can be cancelled, you can also auto right before every dash, to easily proc expose with way more damage and survivability than the slow clunky alt utility

[@biotoxin6280]

2:17 oh okay I was very confused when I was playing Rex and I got one of these without going on a loop.

[@ARandomGuy84939]

I reckon merc should be atleast A I find if u combo his skills rlly well u can just destroy anything like I’ve done eclipse 8 with him and it was rlly easy but I thinks it’s a great tier list overall tho

[@batsrcooll]

I am convinced gearbox instructed them to add chef as a survivor last minute to get people to buy the dlc, he’s weirdly in the last box of the ui despite no being the last one you typically unlock (false son) and no parts of his character feels finished at all

[@yurikadry4721]

I Really miss the standart 3 alt skills on the new survivors, mostly on Seeker. Like, I am not bothered by her special, but I feel like way more people would enjoy her if she had an alternative to the minigame, even if it were a weaker option.

[@elijahemmer]

Chef should have had the same function for dice and sear as he did in risk of rain 1. Sear wasn’t that close to enemies, and _mainly_ shot one time instead of locking you out of other abilities. And it would’ve been fun to see chef fly while leaving oil everywhere instead of rolling.

[@Demoman_FromTeamFortress2]

the chef going from the biggest await of the dlc to the biggest disappointment (except bugs) of the dlc is insane

[@scooberz2015]

Quite a few things we don'f agree on (I'd move Artificer up a tier, Void Fiend down a tier, Huntress down a tier and Mul-T up a tier) but i feel like theres three universal truths in ROR2 that we all see eye to eye on. Loader is stronk. Railgunner is stronk. Chef is cheekz.

[@blitzboy2934]

In the bits I’ve played of chef, he’s felt horrendous, and I’m glad that it wasn’t just a me issue, false son and seeker are pretty cool

[@matassadaunykas4785]

I have a 2 hour long journey to and from work, about 15 minutes is above ground with service. What a saviour🙌🙌🙌

[@whjk83921]

Nice video! I personally like Bandit a lot and would put him top of A tier.

[@MC96-]

this man has more energy in a 12 min video than me in 2 weeks

[@the_demented6688]

Your saying that chef doesn’t have any special abilities or draws but as a chef main the fact that you can deep fry Mithrix and eat him as a heal is more than enough

[@Life_of_Boredom]

Good buff to chef: Cleavers now have no cooldown, cleavers now travel full distance in the air before stalling. Max of 5 cleavers in the air, pressing a button recalls all current cleavers in the air to you.

[@maximustorr5090]

what button would that be? also would be terrible if you got attack speed, why not just remove charges and the recall part, that alone would make it a fine m1 (also increasing proc coef tho)

[@Life_of_Boredom]

@@maximustorr5090 proc would be good, I concepted this idea as I still wanted to keep the boomerang part of the weapon. No attack speed would not be useless, it would increase how fast you could throw them, (since I have already stated there are no charges) and it would make them extend to their full length and recall faster, sorry if my original explanation seems a bit confusing.

[@NexGenration99]

i actually prefer chef's alternative ability. heres why: roll -> yes chef -> roll again. good for movement yes chef -> dice when next to/inside/right under a large enemy and it just gets destroyed roll -> yes chef -> roll again BEFORE yes chef's animation is done and the roll will NOT get boosted, allowing you to quickly roll into a large enemy and use your empowered dice drive-by style

[@chief-rocker80]

Truly a tierlist that's been created 🎉

[@WitheredAway__]

chef in risk of rain returns: the king of area damage, can turn enemies in temporary items that buff his stats and can have infinite cleavers out at once chef in risk of rain 2: 0.5 proc coeficient on base attack, no area damage and terrible alternate ability

[@AlecAndersonZx]

I would put Huntress in S tier honestly just because of her alt blink ability. It's gotta be the best defensive move in the game. Maybe not as important for the vanilla difficulties but if you like to play on the modded Armageddon difficulty then that move alone makes huntress the best character. Armageddon mode is already hard enough but without huntress it becomes so much harder to win without cheese builds lol

[@cam7565]

It doesn’t make chef a lot better at all, but you can cancel sear with a roll. This alone makes chef a prime recipient of hardlight, because without it you’d have to sear without being in roll

[@jako7120]

woolie mentioned this in the video, and i think he tested it in the Chef guide. spamming cleaver does the same or more damage than sear, so it just sucks regardless.

[@justcallmeseth]

I think you forgot to mention this but false son with stone flux pauldron is absolutely insane because he gets way more secondary charges but yes he's very much S tier. The movement penalty also means nothing because his M2 gives him buffs like movement speed LOL I love false son

[@RazakelKairo1994]

The alternate special for False Son kinda grew on me. It really flows well into the rest of his kit, and especially with growth can get extremely potent because it scales harder with spikes than reg-laser does (not to mention its cooldown is super nice). Considering I macro a lot in E8, I think I might like it more than the regular special nowadays. The normal special is definitely way stronger out of the gate, though. Does Merc still have the tech post-update? Cus that sorta puts him into mindless category almost. Merc tech is stupid good.

[@N00bvlog]

S - Railgunner, False Son (All abilities/passives just GOOD, R is busted), Loader, Void Fiend A - Huntress, Seeker (Great Util), Acrid, Captain, Bandit B - Engi, Mul-T, Artificer, Commando, Mercenary, Rex C - Chef - Chef (They Ain’t Cookin)

[@spacebar-vx7ck]

Artificer is high A tier

[@VarioustinglesASMR]

@@spacebar-vx7ck and engi is S tier for sure! perhaps its different on eclipse 8. but im always on monsoon.

[@DJ_Monkey246]

The attack speed item buff on artificer probably puts her in A, and as someone who plays without chests captain isnt that useful compared to someone like bandit. Several of these characters their tier can depend on if youre playing solo co-op, acrid is way better in solo as his poison actually has time to work, but engineer with his turrets and a couple bungus will be amazing in a co-op game

[@shoneyu]

The hottest, the freshest and the spiciest video of the day!

[@skilledsummoner4274]

Really surprised to see how low merc is.

[@aliceprichard2472]

i haven't watched it yet, but i know its a good video!

[@aggapuffin]

Honestly, I know this is mostly about the DLC characters, but I think Bandit should be S-Tier. Desperado is, like, the best damage ability in the entire game. I do agree, though, that he hurts a bit on final bosses, but I think that's mostly because it's kind of annoying to build it up on the final stages, but if you do, then it's still really good.

[@zeraoreon]

9:07 i'd argue loader punch is the best combat utility skill

[@Zanodia]

CChef with backup mags is even better for more suffering!

[@ToastandFrys]

I think False Son is in a good state balance wise given that he’s literally playable boss character. Imo if you beat a boss and unlock them as a character, they SHOULD be a bit overtuned. Think smthn like Akuma, Vergil, or DBFZ Z Broly.

[@Syrius_Li]

Really hoping they change some things with the new survivors. More abilities would also be nice but I highly doubt that

[@cacanaynay]

Multi underrated. I turn my brain off playing double rail gun power mode

[@poeticider]

@Woolie just to give you some constructive feedback on your video editing: Watching on my phone, I thought my video player had bugged out when you zoomed in on your camera because I could see half a lump of text and half a button. Just food for thought ^

[@aimalkhan5028]

I didn't really think false son was that good, but honestly, the more I played him, the more I played the more crazy I realized he was

[@lesliejacoby9137]

"bUt WhAt abOuT hERetIc 🤓!" {But seriously, what about Birb}

[@EverythingChannely]

Now this is epic

[@TrippyTigre]

I think they need to buff chef's proc to .6+ AND your cleavers should be infinite and boomerang like RoR1. It's the MAIN issue he faces, everything feels so clunky because his auto attack isn't auto

[@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862]

Seeker only being in A feels wrong. Man has everything and his base kit is just amazing. Primary is decent damage with good aoe, his spirit balls are all the aoe you'll ever need, sojourn is the best dash in the game, bare minimum of 2 seconds of immortality or if you get 1 or 3 repulsion plates you are just immortal is free damage with spirit balls. Their damage output is already good but they synergies with almost any item like void fiend, having both good long and close range capabilities plus great sustain.

[@Boba19423O]

Sear having super short duration on its flame stacks really sucks too

[@loudesbois2700]

Remember kids, if you play multiplayer and use captain, pick diablo strike, if you get brainstacks your mates will love you

[@nikolasioakimidis3003]

I would swap Artificer with Bandit and then put Seeker on S. Very good overall.

[@CookingWithTheFrogs]

Put my Desperado using cowboy in S tier, its way to funny to oneshot tp bosses

[@bane9951]

Them messing up Chef is the sole reason why risk of rain 2 is currently uninstalled from my pc, when they rework or buff him ill install

[@xenoalvis7866]

when I'm in a huntress glazing competition and my opponent is woolie 😮

[@toi_let954]

Seeker with light flux pauldrons and her alt secondary is s+ tier

[@Surkk2960]

Gonna be honest... I suck at railgunner, it's the only survivor I am truly bad at (haven't played DLC so that could change) and I don't know why :\ I do believe she belongs in her position though, because she does hit hard.

[@balltavorb]

I accidentally went to prime meridian trying to unlock chef’s alternate skin (which is also disappointing). Was planning an easy obliteration run, but somehow won. Chef is now the only character I beat False Son on monsoon, and after just 3 stages. He’s overtuned but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation (joking)

[@kattgaming5163]

The thing is that all the survivors in the game are pretty balanced pretty interchangeable from person to person so Chef being THIS bad feels even worse

[@GodChaos333]

As a engineer main. I can agree that he is top of B...for the start of a run. The beginning will make you feel the B rank. Being slow and not crazy damage, but he has so many busted synergies. Especially Spare drone parts. That by mid to late game. Your not even playing the game anymore. Just watching the enemies die

[@user-wj6jh1cd5n]

You can also turn his alt turrets into little walking bombs that draw aggro with the generator on the back of the drop-pod used to unlock Rex. I'd say that's his best synergy, and it's an item you have immediate access to on every single run. Really funny to watch too.

[@telo4069]

For real

[@GodChaos333]

Ah yep. That's a funny one. Can be dangerous tho. Unless you got good cool down reduction. But for real. The turrets have high potential for so many builds. The ninja stars on them is so potent

[@nitro6875]

​@@user-wj6jh1cd5n hundred of hours in risk and I've never though of this lmao

[@Funny_Man_bruh]

its so sad how they did chef. He was really good in returns bc the cleavers weren't on a charge, just attack speed. Also, chefs abilities are so much more meant for 2d than 3d unfortunately

[@kaalind475]

good to see the random commando hate still stands strong

[@bradleymackay3079]

I want to bump False Son down just because his animations look incomplete. The dudes legs don't even move when your swinging a sword. Thr other abilities also just don't look finished.

[@jerrysandoval2001]

Lol well that doesn't impact how effective he is as a survivor so he stays there despite that. Maybe they can clean those up in some patches to come!

[@kon4564]

hi there Woolie, i like the video just i have one note, can you have some clips that show the abilities you are talking about because as someone who is new to the game i dont know the names of all the abilities nor did i play all the survivors i would really appreciate it if you could show clips of the abilities that you talk about in you videos, thank you so much i appreciate the efforts of the videos

[@frankguy6843]

I think Woolie also pointed this out on stream, but it's amazing they released False Son and Chef at the same time, one is broken overpowered and the other is uselessly underpowered. Did the teams working on these survivors just never talk??

[@ty6571]

the aversion i feel to playing chef ever again after only one run is absolutely crazy. i mean, i have mains but i like every other survivor enough to occasionally pick them. but here, i've played busted mod survivors with missing animations that felt better. :(

[@craygroup]

I feel bad for Chef, Dennis.

[@eggmar7232]

im willing to let gearbox cook a little more. they said they would buff chef, so imma wait and see

[@Lowqualitysoundtrack]

I think chef is so fun but i swear ive never made it past stage 4 with him

[@brofenix]

Yup. Seems about right, lol.

[@aveage-brush-player]

bdw was the fales son’s alt laser fixed yet? its is intended to pirce and get stronger after each pierce but IT DIDN’T PIERCE AT ALL ON LAUNCH so is now at least functional

[@Henry12151]

On release you said False Son was "undercooked", did he get changed during a patch or something because I was not expecting to see him in S tier

[@chicolopes1928]

The modded version of chef is so much better than what we got. I'm actually so afraid of Gearbox butchering all the returning survivors that may come in the future. Gearbox enforcer will never live up to modded enforcer

[@nooby32xl]

Im surprised that you didn't put huntress in s, other than that it looks good Personally arti is C tier for me, also good to know im not the only one who likes seeker, but finds seeker's special annoying

[@redwed6]

I got the alt skin for chef and am never touching him again. Usually it's never a problem but with him omg I hated it LOL