Part 3: 4A-GE ECU Upgrade - Road Tune vs Dyno Tune Showdown!

In this episode, I put my road tune up against the tuner. The Atom X is installed and working well with the 4A-GE. I spent two weeks driving and recording runs to get as good a road tune as I could get without blowing up the motor. The tuner will then use the dyno to see how much more power there was to unlock.
The Link ECU is a solid option for the 4A-GE. The original ECU's are getting old and can suffer from aging related issues such as blown capacitors. A Link ECU is a modern solution that also comes with a good bump in performance.
Which do you think will make more power, the road tune or dyno tune?
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ECU and COP kit for my 20v Blacktop came from MRP in New Zealand - www.mrpltd.co.nz/

[@Lueserloo]

Always a happy day when I see my favourite Ae82 on KZbin post

[@sushpants]

Thanks Humphrey!

[@kcaltbb1384]

Only Ae82**

[@lockjawjak]

0:43 my comment is in the bottom left THIS IS THE PROUDEST MOMENT OF MY LIFE

[@VertigoGTI]

Lol, i saw it too 🤣

[@Alysavos-rd4tp]

7:08 "everyone is doing itb's....." -starts sweating and raging internally

[@danielc.7173]

Currently in the process of trying to swap a 4age silvertop 20v into my stock 95 corolla My mechanic says everything looks great, I just need a new wiring harness, a new ecu and a new fuse box and it should he smooth sailing Thank you sharing your build and recommending these ECUs you are a life saver and a bro

[@SturdivantRacing126]

Must comment. Must help KZbin algorithm see more AE82...!

[@Geoffvader]

Super exciting to follow your content man! My AE111 will be getting a tune soon too! Tomei Poncams, HKS 4-1 long runner headers and a 2.25 inch exhaust system. Strongly recommend the cams! Keen to see the FXGT tear up the AutoX/track again ;)

[@sushpants]

I still haven't decided on which cams I'll be installing but the Poncams do seem appealing! Sounds like your AE111 is going to be awesome!

[@BendyBendigo]

What’s next from here, cams?

[@ExelPixel]

Yes, another upload!!

[@MODeration_nXS]

Great results! All she needs is some cams to really pep up the power

[@razmann4k]

I NEED AN AE82 in my life! The cool factor is insane, too bad it would get stolen immediately in South Africa :( Guess I gotta work harder and go to Japan hehe

[@locosvatos2391]

Get yourself a decent one and take it over. I've had mine for almost 9 years now. Did all sorts of upgrades. Coilovers motor swap ect. Best car on the road ma se kin😎

[@razmann4k]

@@locosvatos2391 Awe lol, I'm gonna need a locked garage then, sounds good!

[@RVGM]

Love that headers red glow :) , I did an 4A-GE blacktop engine swap from my Toyota Corolla Ae92 Sx Seca six years ago and i love it, I wish i had the resources and parts to do such awesome upgrades for it ...

[@DhrSpies]

Nice to see you make progress :) !! May 2021 bring more of the good stuff to all of us

[@stevesloan6775]

Great content man!! Seeing the glowing pipes says a lot to where the bottle necks are in exhaust gas flow. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🍀🍀😎

[@farooqmss]

Conrats man! now we want a 0-100

[@zeroswings2]

congrats... nice power gains I predicted 135-140 whp... looks like I was off juuuust a bit... the good thing is, now when you do other mods you can retune for those...

[@bryan10444]

That’s how you do an intro 😎

[@bryan10444]

I gotta do this to my blacktop

[@xdugames5775]

YESSSS, BEST DAY OF THE WEEK

[@patricklawrence9784]

Oh my God the Tach is working perfectly! LOL

[@throwout1483]

7:44 THAT'S LITERALLY MY FAVORITE CAR EVER! they're on Instagram and it has a really unique story behind it.

[@FeeeshEP3]

Awesome upload. Always a pleasure to watch progress on your Toyota!

[@thestoicwhinger]

Such a tidy car. I had an ae82 (Corolla gt in NZ) limited edition, leather seats and red carpet.. wish I'd kept it. It would lose traction in 2nd gear any time you wished 😂 Looking at a bzg touring wagon with a 20v 6 speed, so your videos definitely have me excited to get my hands on one! Awesome content

[@sean-pauldemercado811]

Great work you doing and enjoy video every time blessing

[@semigu]

"i didnt bring my walker this time" 😂

[@linchester8464]

Wait what thats a ton of AE86 at one meet. I am jelly. Also that Levin and Tofu Trueno. Drools...

[@sushpants]

Exactly! It was nice to see them so well taken care of.

[@kanabys01]

Awesome! Do you plan on getting cams?

[@snap_oversteer]

Awesome, now time for some cams + headwork? :D

[@princesssolace4337]

I gain 10whp from a used Haltech Sport 500 ECU. Now its 150whp. Didn't even use COP.

[@Vortrex99999]

Hey Sushpants How did you guys install the knock sensor with the purple wire? I thought the blacktop 20v had it's own knock sensor or is that one not accurate enough for the ECU? Also now it's time to install cams and see how much power you gain.

[@mtdracer69]

If my eyes don't deceive me, you live in California? I am a state up in Oregon, if you head this way would love to see the car man so cool!!

[@tomasribeiro8127]

Sick

[@essb00]

Nice! It is your fault I dove into getting a stand-alone ECU as well... Good thing I got the MonsoonX, but I still find the 6 aux outputs kinda limiting (and I'm still on dizzy). :P

[@DiegoRodriguezAW11]

i absolutely love this kind of videos. awesome content. however, i saw this was performing 135 hp 3 years ago, how is that its doing the same power now with all this stuff in top of it?

[@jakeramsay]

Corolla fx16?

[@cardude7777]

What's the little guy on the white board gonna be holding up next?

[@sushpants]

Haha, I think you’re the first to point him out!

[@cardude7777]

cams?

[@indioteque7816]

I have a question, if it is a 4age 20v blacktop, why it only produces 125-136hp if in theory that engine should give 160-170h? I don't understand, I don't know if I'm ignoring something?

[@madfortar2008]

Yeah Nobody's answering this Its essentially stock power at the moment,

[@fj40sjc79]

The hp readings are at the wheels. The stock hp rating for a Blacktop (165) is at the crank.

[@李賢達-g3w]

改裝的不錯

[@marlo0oty213]

How did it get 135whp before all of this when you were doing the exhaust ? So is it all no gains or something happened to the engine?

[@VertigoGTI]

0:43 DATS ME I HALPED

[@muhammadaimannazruddin7622]

Whats your strategy for ignition timing limit for the road tuning? Did you had any knock sensor in action or you just tune the fueling and let the ignition stay with whatever comes with the mapping?

[@Awais-gj8qy]

Which fuel should we use for this engine 4age blacktop. Can you tell me the Ron number. Simple gasoline or Hi octane???

[@stephenanderson3776]

How close do the engine mounts line up with the 20v to the original 16v mounts?

[@sushpants]

They line up perfectly. The only side that doesn’t line up is for the c160 trans mount.

[@throwout1483]

Small question: Can a 4A-GE intake system (whether it be 20 valve itbs or 16 valve single throttle) work with a 4A-C?

[@MrMariomena]

Why didn't you changed to your smr2u header?

[@Kozuto98]

Will the AtomX ECU work for a 7A-FE or even a 7A-GE build?

[@johnnyloveee]

How in the world do you smog it lol.

[@andrewgaylard8500]

i thought 20v black top made 160hp

[@Kassu1]

Ecu is good in that enginea

[@tomasribeiro8127]

What’s next?

[@_ash__li]

What do you do when it comes time to smog it?

[@fila1445]

Move to Florida :p

[@ciatangallaghe2485]

Needs more carbs😉

[@midgrave]

Or you can go with a speeduino that costs $120.

[@adrianvalella6854]

how much was the dyno tune? is it worth it over the free(ish) road tune?

[@alex_k1410]

Love seeing the FX-16 come together and the Toyota meetup at the end was a nice surprise! 🔰👍🏻

[@fila1445]

1:33 Haha 4age goes BRRRRRRRRE

[@bryan10444]

Will this ecu keep Air conditioning and IACV controls?

[@raeeshassiem8937]

Great content love the vids and the car

[@sushpants]

Thanks Raees!

[@SephV92]

Definitely my favorite corolla/4age channel in youtube!

[@tassoss13]

That levin looked clean !

[@PepeHerman]

Thanks 👍 for the video info I'm going to get an atom x ECU for my 4a ge ,I was checking all over for a compatible ECU, thanks again 👍

[@mr220v]

The Link st205 pnp has virtually the same pinout as the 4age blacktop 20v ecu.

[@shaneynereneyne4493]

Wait, you gave the cheaper AdamX ecu WITH coil on plugs? Or did you end up getting the better ecu?

[@blacksblade]

can you do a video of road tuning step by step instruction?

[@Arsa...]

134whp? damn that's a very healthy number for a 1.6L na i4 engine

[@КоляКоляКоля-и4б]

Передавай привет всем русскоязычным.

[@Mr_jz_12]

Those arc intakes are nice :D

[@kevingaraway6494]

I noticed you don't have the aftermarket header on the Corolla👍

[@geraldperez7754]

I thought 4AGE black tops had up to 165 hp @@

[@李賢達-g3w]

白色改裝車，引擎改裝的不錯，引擎很兇?GTR,外加渦輪，高凸輪軸，?

[@SpacedOdyssey]

tbh I think that you have wasted a lot of money on ITBs if your car only made 135 bhp with such a good exhaust system and a free flow air intake, that engine is worth 135 bhp without ITBs. Perhaps if you had wild CAMs installed then ITBs may be worth investing in.

[@nzuncovered1845]

ITBs are standard on 20V engines

[@stephonthomas3336]

anyone running this setup?

[@ItsOnlySmellz787]

awesome vid mate!! well done on the road tune. Cant wait to see what mods you have planned for the future!

[@sushpants]

Thanks Smelly! I think the next mod will be steering related.

[@ToreDL87]

I say job well done in how you managed to tune it within 5hp of a professional tuner! Those few extra ponies will definitely come in handy. Especially with that 15hp bump about 3/4 way up the revs, for what you're doing it's a much appreciated addition. And similarly so is the case for anyone doing the same thing as you! All in all it's welcome information for a lot of 4A-GE enthusiasts. I'da gone aftermarket ECU but the ECU+adapter/wiring are usually around 1500 for 20v's (Just checked MRP and I was pretty much dot on). But that's to be expected, the issue is the additional 500-750 tune which I have a hard time justifying up against the extra few ponies.

[@nazeerahdollie6799]

the best 20v on KZbin by far ... and I'm all the way from South Africa

[@LucaFujiwara]

Amazing video as always, keep it up

[@ZZEROO99]

FINALLY SHE'S BACK ON THE ROAD AND SCREAMING!

[@GhostOfDamned]

The engine sound is a thing you will never forget

[@locosvatos2391]

Nice touch on the Mazda's speedo😁

[@QuickAF]

I have yet to see a cleaner FX, mine will be there one day

[@madthough2298]

How did you monitor knock for your road tune?

[@awong160]

That digital dash was so cool!

[@FronkG]

LSD install when?!?

[@OCDKV]

So now that you’ve used both a Megasquirt and a Link, what one would you recommend for the average DIY guy? I’m building a 7age, 16v with ITB’s, and planning to do COP and eventually turbo, maybe, but not right away for the turbo. Thanks for all you do and share, cheers.

[@snap_oversteer]

There's also a Speeduino if you're on budget and don't mind doing (almost) everything yourself.

[@OCDKV]

@@snap_oversteer thanks, I’ll look into that too!

[@tiddysprinklez]

Hey dude can you possibly send me the Tune on a flash drive. Save me the time and money with my swap.I have this ecu but it's all plug and play patch harness to my 20v harness.the 20valve swap I'm putting in a 96 corolla it's all jdm. I acquired a front cut from a GT APEX so it all plug and play for the most part.