Sutekh's Version of 1980

[@FrankNFurter1000]

'1980, Sarah, if you want to get off...' Haunting.

[@carlh429]

The way he says it sends a chill down the spine.

[@jezcartner4104]

They paid homage to this scene in 15th Doctors first season

[@sirbruce70]

Homage or rip-off?

[@sabiondo1629]

Homage or foreshadowing that Sutekh is The One Who Waits.

[@Harambae613]

@@sabiondo1629 "A little of Column A and a little of Column B."

[@CodeAndGin]

Hmm I wonder why

[@10tailedbijuu]

@@sabiondo1629 just watched the episode that he is revealed to be The One Who waits, though the question is, is it the same "person" as this one?

[@ScoobyandShaggy5554]

RTD really had hints

[@bigfatcarp93]

There really is always a twist at the end

[@barrybarry9714]

The best doctor. Great stories in this era.

[@severalcakes3267]

"It takes a being of Sutekh's almost limitless power to *destroy* the future."

[@SamuelBlack84]

Well?

[@lugialover09]

God, Tom really did just make the Fourth Doctor himself. Such a charming man.

[@captainyossarian388]

Many think Talons was the high point for Tom Baker, but I think The Pyramids of Mars was. The best Doc and the best companion fighting one of the greatest evils ever, can't get much better than this..Well, maybe the 10th Doc and Donna Noble freeing the Ood comes close.

[@minicle426]

Never really got the big song and dance over Tom's Doctor, and especially Sarah.🤷‍♂️ It's Second and Jamie anyday for me.

[@captainyossarian388]

@@minicle426 The 2nd and Jamie would definitely be the number 2 pairing in my book, tied with the 10th and Donna. Tom was very eccentric in a very alien way, and he was very genuine. When he's trying to talk Greel out of activating the time machine in Talons, he just knocks it out of the park. Liz Sladen portrayed the first not-screaming-almost-all-the-time woman in Who, who was also a professional journalist. She was also dedicated to keeping the Doctor safe as Jamie was, and again was very genuine in her portrayal.

[@matthewsawyer4864]

Pretty much how I remember 1980.

[@neptunesphere3964]

I love how the Doctor is so serious in this story as opposed to his usual humorous demeanor. Yeah I know it’s because Tom didn’t get along with the director, but his moodiness works in this story. It helps sell the fact that Sutekh is a threat of complex multiversal proportions.

[@grey8478]

you sure it was that? this was one of his earlier seasons, before things started getting heated at the turn of the decade

[@brookse746]

HES BACK!!

[@aroleid]

Wasn't Sarah-Jane gorgeous?

[@Reprodestruxion]

aroleid and funny

[@martinrobo123]

Yes she was, she was also and still is my favourite

[@probro9898]

She was a very pretty young lady

[@SamuelBlack84]

Her beauty lives forever in these stories granting her immortality

[@minicle426]

She was okay. But characterwise, totally overated. 🤷‍♂️

[@BorderReiver49]

Lovely scene that.

[@BuddyNovinski]

Could this be the meaning of the fifth dimension -- alternate time?

[@GREGGRCO]

This is the one time I believe he disengaged the parking brake.

[@busywl69]

Clip better than all of moder n who after Eccleston (smatly) left. Espeically love the awe people felt when first entering the TARDIS. Doesn't happen anymore. Might as well be a nice Toyota.

[@jamesmcdaniel7907]

If only I had gone back before I was married😋

[@SamuelBlack84]

I'll swap you

[@Dreadtothink]

Hey... What’s not to like?

[@Reprodestruxion]

No legwarmers and No Duran Duran?

[@EdMcF1]

Not even Adam and the Ants!

[@Reprodestruxion]

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[@tonyyoung3985]

I was looking for the scene where Tom's Doctor shows Sutekh this same destruction and congratulates him one becoming the master of nothing. But it wasn't on Tubi. Did it get cut? And at which point of the story did it appear in?

[@grant24678]

He made all those people suffer just to proove something to Sarah

[@mpittard21]

All what people? Sarah? She is a time traveller. She has seem people hit with Dalek weaponary at close range. That would be more horrific.

[@straker454]

He didn't make those people suffer. He just showed her the suffering Sutekh would cause if he didn't stop him. It's a future that would already have happened so he wouldn't have caused anything unless he let Sutekh win. Then he would have allowed it to happen, not caused it. It's a parallel time line really, something the writers didn't really think of then but the idea was used later in Modern Doctor Who with the creation of the Cybusmen. Regardless, he still went back and stopped Sutekh, so even if it was a single timeline, who suffered if it didn't happen in the end?

[@SamuelBlack84]

@@straker454 Doesn't seeing the future solidify it happening regardless of changes in the past?

[@straker454]

@@SamuelBlack84 Only in THAT timeline where it obviously happened anyway because the Doctor wasn't there to prevent it. That's why the Doctor called it alternative time. It's an example the writer used, quite well I feel, to show why the Doctor can't just leave when there's an obvious problem that could threaten the world. Modern writers on the other hand have no idea how to write that. That's why in Angels take Manhattan, when the Doctor spotted Rory's and Amy's graves that they died of old age and were buried in the past, he for some odd reason assumed they would live their entire lives in the past and was all sad...but really it means they could have just been buried in the past or decided to retire there. He could still go back AFTER the paradox of 1929 and see them one year later, picked them up, they lived in the future and when they retired when they were older, went to the past to live out their lives because they liked it there or maybe the Doctor buried them in the past after they died in the future. The writers just weren't as clever , lol.

[@hamanu666]

@@SamuelBlack84nope you’re projecting what you think versus what the doctor is showing Sarah, a glimpse of alternate time. Plus they are in the Tardis, that insulates them from all sorts of temporal effects.

[@DVDandFilmBloke]

Hey look it's 2021! Sorry obvious joke.

[@SamuelBlack84]

It looked just like 1980, I don't see the problem😄

[@DVDandFilmBloke]

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[@mushroomhead3619]

No Doctor. That's 2022 if Corbyn gets elected!

[@sillygoose635]

more like if nigel gets elected

[@That_Random_Bloke]

Mushroom Head Thank God the Doctor stopped it 🤣🤣🤣

[@WELSHGAMER99]

@@That_Random_Bloke The Doctor didn't stopped anything. He failed and now we are heading towards hell world.

[@mickeythompson9537]

There's always a wingnut like the OP to make the same old boring this is what it would be like if [insert name] got elected. The wingnut's twin said the same about Hillary Clinton. The last laugh, of course, is that nothing could possibly be worse than out actual realities: Trump and Johnson.

[@martinrobo123]

So you think the Toroes who are corrupt and only care about their own pockets or their friends are the better option?

[@williamoliver7660]

With the state of things in 2024, I think I might have given Sutekh's 1980 a go. Anyone else getting out?

[@21TheKarina]

Great scene, but the doctor did just create a timeline with death and suffering purely to make a point

[@harryc1971]

or is it a fixed point of divergence, Sarah-Jane's 1980 was just a possible outcome this was another. Timey wimey stuff? Are Time Lords prevented from all interference, or just preventing catastrophic divergence from natural order?

[@hamanu666]

He just showed her an alternative timeline how did he create anything?