Marvel Admits FAILURE | The M-She-U is DEAD

[@NickNapoli]

Imagine the possibilities Marvel could have if they stopped hiring “activists” as writers and executives and hired people that actually cared about comics.

[@equivalentexchangeisalie5726]

Unless you remove the activist executives as well, nothing will change.

[@WB-mo3nm]

Exactly this.

[@Turin_Inquisitor]

it's way too late for that.

[@himynameis3664]

It's insane what they've lost out on. Comics have been popular for like half a century. They had all that material with an established fan base just waiting for good adaptions..idiots

[@rbarnett3200]

Imagine the joy we'd all be able to feel if Marvel just fucked off and left us all alone

[@CarlosRodriguez-bh2ey]

It has gotten so bad that I almost feel bad for them, but then I remember how morally superior they felt and how they belittled anyone that tried to warn them.

[@andrewtaylor940]

They’re still in belittling and insulting mode. They’ve been calling us racists non-stop for saying that the new Little Mermaid looks like a dark dank mess.

[@wolfgangkranek376]

The actual problem is BlackRock who owns Disney... and Pfizer. And Vanguard owns BlackRock as the largest shareholder.

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

D+ is actually the grade Disney have been getting for a few years now.

[@brandongray1059]

I just think about how they try to groom children with the alphabet agenda they keep pushing, and their racist releases like Little Mermaid, Snow White, etc. and any sympathy I had previously considered evaporates.

[@trutherx3440]

its acutal morbin time level or bud light imagine a 180 flip and just hardcore gore marvel knights movies for one phase. Punisher r rated, mark millar old man logan r rated, Zeb Wells Carnage USA, Weapon X r rated, blade

[@LunaticFringeReviews]

Insane to think that the MCU was on top of the world just a few short years ago, compared to how dead it is now. It's amazing what a few years of bad content can do to an IP

[@Dereliction2]

Marvels arc is a mirror to American culture. The last few years have been all down slope.

[@rebotsomat]

Yeah definitely nothing to do with superhero fatigue

[@LarryBonson]

What's even more insane is how they self sabotage themselves.

[@LarryBonson]

​​@@rebotsomatot superhero fatigue it was woke activists and terrible characters no one like plus attacking its core audience.

[@daosdresari7349]

They should have recast the main heroes. No one wants to see avengers without Ironman or captain America. Also, the writers aren't very good. They weren't going to be able to keep churning out hits. They just got lucky for a while.

[@shaeleable]

the investors in these companies need to start suing over pushing agenda instead of entertainment and losing them money

[@meal_team_six]

I'm starting to wonder if Disney is actually playing the long game here and just waiting for K-12 education to produce a full-on woke society that retrospectively hails these movies as masterpieces of advocacy and art!

[@frankbatista]

The investors are the ones pushing the agenda

[@crazyralph6386]

@@meal_team_six i believe the Z generation 97-2010 will be fed up with this woke nonsense as much as the Generation X? it’s usually the former gen that defiantly becomes the counter culture?

[@MissyFaith1971]

Egypt is suing Netflix for Cleapatra movie. They are suing for race swapping Cleapatra,misrepresenting history of their country and a lot more. They are asking for 2 billion in damages.

[@13376UNN3R]

Problem is the biggest of the investors that foot most of the bills are also the ones wanting the agenda pushed

[@abhishekprakash7000]

Most people in india were subscribed to disney+ due to IPL ( Indian Premire Leauge) It is a very popular cricket league which is watched by millions of people in india but now they lost its streaming rights to another platform which is broadcasting the tournament for free and also most people in india either ignored miss marvel or dropped it after watching 2-3 episodes.

[@johnpglackin345]

Disney should not be involved in showing sports programs.

[@ackshayshukla]

​@@johnpglackin345sony has most of the sports programming including UFC owned in India. They wanted a piece of the IPL giant, and they got it to stream Offline. They will get to stream it on Television channels owned by Disney group, but the online streaming has been bought at the same price by another telecom giant in India called Jio. Now many people watch sports on their phones when at work, and some have given up on television subscription and switched completely to OTT platforms which Jio caters to for free anyway. Disney+ will have a long battle ahead of itself. 😅

[@nicloren2220]

at least they are smarter than to submit to their worthless pandering

[@NCTStudio]

“An empire that is toppled outside can rebuild, but one that crumbles from within is dead forever”

[@Grape_Fever]

Also sounds like our country 😢

[@majorhavik395]

I got that reference. Great choice. Spot on comment.

[@LarryBonson]

The self sabotage still leaves me speechless.

[@jacklaurentius6130]

@Aarush Kumar yes, Japan.

[@maguffintop2596]

@@jacklaurentius6130 😂

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

Here the thing- Even if Disney started dropping absolute banger TV and movies, I'm still never going to give them my money. It's clear that Disney adminstration, production, and marketing have all been captured by ideologically motivated activists who are diametrically opposed to the values and traditions that turned Disney a household name in the first place. They both resent and scorn the very same customers who made Disney rich, influential, and beloved the world over. That's all done for me. For good.

[@080ization]

Same here

[@johnnytyler5685]

This is what EVERYONE'S mentality should be with this woke POS company. They will absolutely NEVER change unless we bankrupt them. Bankrupting Disney would've been a delusional pipe dream five years ago. Today? I actually do believe that it's possible, but it's not something that is going to be easy. As you said, the only answer is refusing to spend ONE PENNY on ANYTHING that Disney makes. Don't visit their theme parks. Don't watch their movies. Don't buy their toys or collectibles. Don't give them one red cent under ANY circumstances. That is truly the only answer.

[@hawk4192]

If there was a massive wave of firings from top to bottom before the good content dropped then I might consider bothering to tune in. Maybe.

[@harrydavey9884]

Disney never had values at all. They've been selling subliminal sexual imagery to children for nearly a century... They're truly one of the most evil companies in the history of entertainment.

[@whistlingsage9817]

If a powerful person bought Disney, openly cleaned the mouse house of the woke infection that is killing it, publicly announced that he was changing the company's direction, and then took noticeable action in that direction -then I'd return a happy Disney fan. I should point out that coups such as this have happened before; look at what Elon Musk did when he recently bought Twitter (and then ignore that he just turned around and hired a WEF minion to run it). But it COULD happen, it's just not likely.

[@Oudeis000]

There is clearly a demand for classic storytelling rooted in the tropes and motifs that have underpinned great literature through the centuries. The free market should give rise to a successor to Disney. It’s just a shame to have to start over after culture destroyers hijack something that was once good.

[@bluelightstudios6191]

The hijackers will get what's coming to them!!!

[@Houd_Vast]

Independent comic creators are already filling the void

[@rpgadventurer32]

Only if you can get a group of conservative or at least "non - left wingers" billionaires, who are willing to invest billions of dollars in a new industry in Florida or Texas. An industry that will be based on what worked in the past for Hollywood and one that will be purely profit based while completely devoid of identity centered ideology, an industry that will be merit based and emphasize quality and not quotas, an industry that will cater primarily to the majority in the population and not small activist groups. To create a new alternative Entertainment industry is not a simple task, it's going to take decades of effort and lots of money but it's not impossible.

[@lareolanKFP]

There already is a successor. Anime and Manga are dominating across the world with Disney and Hollywood in general choosing to repeatedly shoot themselves in the face. At least the Japanese still know how to create an original story that doesn't rely on existing IPs, remakes and "re-imaginings", and they don't try to ram stupid moral lessons down your throat.

[@Ψυχήμίασμα]

If I see one more headline or fluff piece about "subverting expectations" or "modern audiences" I....will continue to stay not subscribed to D+. Which is pretty easy to do, actually.

[@MrS-pe6sd]

It’s almost like Marvel and Disney know that if not for the negative reaction to their social issues there would be no interest in social issues at all. And they figure, at least people are talking about these issues. What we need is a good film making company. Someone’s gonna fill that role soon enough. And when they do they’re gonna make billions.

[@meal_team_six]

My tinfoil hat makes me wonder if Disney is actually playing the long game just waiting for K-12 education to produce a society that is full on woke and think these movies are masterpieces of advocacy art!

[@Endtimescoming]

No Disney is a large corporation they are out to make money, but the leadership are baffoons today and someone was able to convince them that if they just put girls in charge it will make money...now look I have no problem with a female protagonist none at all...but it still needs the story to back it. Instead they make them so they have no weaknesses, can do no wrong, and never make mistakes its one dimensional and its not good then to top it off the men in the stories seem to have to always be morons. How do they expect audiences to react? By all means have strong female leads but give them a story arc make them seem like someone people can relate to yes they have super powers but they are still people not automatons. Why for the women to be powerful do the men have to be totally incompetent? It doesn't seem to have to work that way in male lead stories. But someone convinced them this was a great idea and for the last few years they have been losing money hand over fist, I would hope they would wake up and smell the coffee.

[@spider59er35]

@@meal_team_sixI’ll be honest with you, ya might be onto something, just from the wrong source 💀

[@marinoderienzo3176]

Nope. These products don't even register with people who are fed up and disinterested.

[@joshuawood1436]

@@meal_team_six There is no such society clearly, we have an entire generation thats fully brainwashed by the propaganda, and they actively choose not to watch Disney+. Even if that were a possibility, which it is not, they'd have gone bankrupt well before that day came.

[@Krhys1]

Can you imagine what will happen to Disney if it lost it's ESG rating? They're currently balanced on a knife edge, either unwokeify and start making money, losing your ESG rating OR stay woke to protect their ESG and ultimately go broke. Either way, the WEF will be losing one of its main grooming outlets.

[@rensenbon3389]

The bigger they are, the harder they fall... Disney magic is all gone. Now it's just a festering cesspool of those activists. Seriously, calling them writers would be an insult to actual good writers out there.

[@sprinkle61]

These are actual mainstream TV writers. ALL scripted TV has basically descended to this level, its just that most people into Disney and comics don't watch a lot of sitcoms, so its something of a shock when Marvel or Star Wars gets the normal TV treatment, and we suddenly realize just how bad mainstream entertainment has become.

[@rensenbon3389]

@@sprinkle61 that's why this news of the Writers strike, i think is a good thing. It's woke vs woke at this point. This gives chance for actual good writers to take over. I hope *fingers croseed* I'm so tired of garbage fron the entertainment industry

[@Tharvey83]

Hopefully Bob Iger being hired back will help. He seems to be turning the ship

[@meal_team_six]

This is so true. I saw a rather large portly woman in Walmart take 20 minuts to get back on her feet with the help of workers because she was that fat! The bigger they are, the harder they fall and the longer to get back up!

[@Slitheringpeanut]

So why are they STILL in business after a DECADE of this disastrous garbage?

[@bigvis497]

I can't even remember the last time they've announced a project with a male lead. I thought Moon Knight was going to be safe. He doesn't have a female sidekick or female variant for Disney to slobber over. Boy was I wrong. They just created a female lead from scratch and pushed MK to the side and made him a whining pussy. How the hell did they screw that one up so bad?

[@TheAmbientMage]

They've perfected the art of ruining IPs. They're quite adept at it.

[@GIBBO4182]

They’re about to do it again with Indiana Jones by the look of things

[@raghulravichandran4231]

​@@GIBBO4182they did ..and they are reaping the reviews as of now

[@majorgear1021]

It wasn’t a mistake . It was intentional.

[@thetruestoneage]

@@majorgear1021 100%...This what fans don't seem to want to believe or consider...They are deliberately making bad movies...They do not care about the money anymore...They are under orders now to play the agenda...

[@stuff4007]

Disney+ is doing so badly you could probably refuse to pay subscriber fees and they would still keep you on as a subscriber for the numbers.

[@matthewburrows4359]

So True,

[@wolfmannews]

I'm sure the illegals being shipped into America will be glad to be their new subscribers but only if the government pays the bill for them.

[@_Stormfather]

​@LaVerdadEsCatólica I don't think you know how to use capitals

[@exodiatheforbiddenone3813]

This old guy with his toys, in his basement. Crying over Disney and complaining how no one makes movies for old men anymore! Disney is for young people. Read Books!! Read Newspapers!!! I cant stand these grey ass old men crying over children superheros.

[@STB-jh7od]

That's been reported to have happened

[@huntercool2232]

The fact that media has come to this point is honestly just depressing. What happened to the imagination and actual passion in creating something you want people to see not because of money but because you are PROUD of it?! That is why I’m mostly moved on to animation rather than live action movies and shows.

[@ShinkuGouki]

"Captain Marvel got demoted in her own sequel" 🤣🤣🤣

[@amadeusagripino6862]

The fact that Disney now have the X-Men and Fantastic Four under their catalog but do nothing with them, instead rushing ahead things like Agatha Harkness (who???), Echo and Black Captain America speaks volumes

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

they did though. Didn't you get shown how they treated Reed Richards and the leader of the Inhumans like trash in the last Dr. Strange film? That ALL counts, tells you a lot about how they devalue the male characters. Let them ironically gatekeep em, instead of actually using them.

[@amadeusagripino6862]

@@Parlimant_Strifey yeah, you're correct. Better not do anything than do a half-assed attempt likr that.

[@she-venom9842]

@@Parlimant_Strifey While making us to feel bad for terrorists and killers like cringe wanda and the ones in Fallcon and WS each Marvel shows that female can do whatever they want 🙄

[@ABurntMuffin]

@@she-venom9842 to be fair though the first 5-6 episodes of wandavision were pretty dope. They realized half way through that they couldn't have a white straight mother of 2 be the lead of their show so they had to include black cop lady b'cuz m'diversity.

[@nerdgeekman]

Agatha was in WandaVision. Idk how they’re gonna make it when you know, *spoiler* SHE DIED.

[@TheAmbientMage]

It took 5 years of activist rule to take Marvel from the greatest height it has ever achieved in its greater than half a century existence to outright pariah among its most faithful and longstanding customers. I grew up with Marvel and now I regard their value entirely as historical. The good news is it leaves a very wide open niche for the iron age to take hold over. Hail to all the modern creators. We will win.

[@jackxiao9702]

Same thing happened to black families and communities.

[@brandocalrissian3294]

Yup, I'm good with marvel comic books up until the end of avengers vs x men. Started getting to preachy and forced diversity after that. Atleast we still have plenty of old stories to fall back on.

[@exodiatheforbiddenone3813]

This old guy with his toys, in his basement. Crying over Disney and complaining how no one makes movies for old men anymore! Disney is for young people. Read Books!! Read Newspapers!!! I cant stand these grey ass old men crying over children superheros.

[@TheAmbientMage]

@@brandocalrissian3294 I stopped at the same spot. My collection ends at 2012.

[@longtsun8286]

The "modern creators" who won, are the JAPANESE and the KOREANS. Yes, the Rippaverse is growing, but the Japanese and the Koreans already have full production studios, licensing deals, TRAINED and EXPERIENCED personnel for EVERY TASK at EVERY LEVEL. Making an American media company catch up, is like trying to build a new Atari to compete with Nintendo in the 1980s. It's not impossible, but it requires a MASSIVE investment in time, money, and other resources- in addition to the opportunity costs, e.g., the fact artists cannot simultaneously work on multiple projects without compromising both the quality and the quantity of his or her work.

[@JasonAdank]

The reality is, none of these streaming services have enough content to justify having permanent subscribers. Disney and Paramount+ are at the top of the list of lacking content.

[@adamramsey5787]

Could investors sue Marvel for intentionally being woke and shooting itself in the foot? Anytime there was a producer, director, or writer attacking fans.......they had to know that was not going to go well. Are they that dense? Were they eating paint chips?

[@countryjoe3551]

All of the societal insanity that we are currently living through is primarily driven by the ESG social credit scheme driven by the globalist ghouls through the banking system. "Your ESG score is too low?? Oh, that's unfortunate, we won't lend your company any more money. Just pump out the propaganda that we tell you to and we will open up our cash flow once again."

[@Migantos9989]

Investors can’t sue, but depending how much stake they have, they can, to some extent, “call the shots”. Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised if these said investors were the ones putting these woke writers in positions of power to begin with. Usually when a Company isn’t performing well, the investors, shareholders, and other owning parties (board of directors) meet and make decisions (for example, to appoint a new CEO, strategize for better profits, etc). At the end of the day, it is the Company’s best interest to make the stake holders profits, so that these stake holders can invest more. However, I believe that investors are the ones pushing for woke politics (generally, a person with money invests to make their views heard, so wouldn’t be surprising if these investors were involved in politics to some extent) and it’s also on Disney for not doing shit when they see their profits are dropping at an all time low. TLDR; both the investors and Disney are the ones responsible for this catastrophic downfall; if the investors were actually smart and did not wish to push their agenda, they’d either place more competent writers OR actually hold Disney executives liable for the lack of profits. But alas, as long as THE message keeps getting pushed (women good, men bad, minorities good, white bad, specially white men), then they couldn’t care less if they’re making money or not.

[@christiancsq]

What makes marvel woke? 🤔

[@Urroner]

​@@christiancsq Their stupidity and anality.

[@adamramsey5787]

@@christiancsq Woke is where a group of people stole some things from Christianity, twisted it, and presented it back into the public in corrupt ways. Being awake is a major theme in the Bible. (Ezekiel 12:2)(Proverbs 20:12)(Isaiah 42:7)(Matthew 13:15-17) Did someone have ears to hear what the spirit is saying to the Churches? In a woke context, what was someone awake to? Were they awake to God, and what God was doing, or were they awake to man, or something else, using religion for political gain? Disney uses woke politics. It may have ties to their past as Freemasons, and with the Occult.

[@ComposedSage75]

They truly believed they couldn’t lose only to realize how much power the customer truly holds. Even their Galactic Cruiser they opened last year is closing and their streaming service is losing subs. Keep it up folks.

[@letitburn4272]

Someone once told me, Disney is like a flat circle. Everything Disney has ever done or will do, they are gonna do over and over and over again.

[@TheScrootch]

Like a mouse eating it's own tail

[@jeffhall768]

All circles are flat. They're 2 deminsional lol

[@stephjezo6470]

And just like a vinyl record, it eventually wears out and has to be scrapped. 😂

[@stefanoterragnolo6458]

Rust Cohle approves

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

Same thing with Marvel. I mean they were bankrupt when Disney bought them

[@HeisenbergFam]

Disney falling is truly a beautiful sight to witness after they did so many shenanigans

[@chasehedges6775]

Disneg reaps wha it does and it’s glorious watching them Fall

[@gauravnagda1735]

True. I'm just so excited for movie 'the marvels' to fail at the box office.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

I hope this lawsuit is a side-shot at Iger since most of what was cited is his fault. The entertainment possibilities are staggering.

[@saschaberger3212]

Sadly they will survive. Nowadays I find the content against them way more entertaining than anything they published in the last years so yeah keep em coming

[@MRJBS117]

Say my name?

[@slightrecoil9285]

Here in Europe - if you book a Disneyland Paris trip you get a Free 1year Disney+ subscription. So you can imagine how many (free) subscriptions are being used to pad their numbers.

[@NYARMYMP]

I wanted to add my 2 cents about the disney+ numbers. When I signed up for hulu Live, disney+ was included, and I found out that that counts as a subscription even though I never set up the account on the disney site

[@bobbyharris3764]

Misleading investors... Fraud... Popcorn engaged! This is also your friendly reminder that Kathleen Kennedy still has a job.

[@Bad_Llama]

The mouse has become the antithesis of what it was founded to be. It isn't just anti-family. It's the opposite of entertaining. It is, in fact, anti-entertainment, the opposite of actual entertainment.

[@exodiatheforbiddenone3813]

This old guy with his toys, in his basement. Crying over Disney and complaining how no one makes movies for old men anymore! Disney is for young people. Read Books!! Read Newspapers!!! I cant stand these grey ass old men crying over children superheros.

[@maguffintop2596]

A Luciferian pulpit pushing post- truth gospel.

[@jeffhall768]

Part of that founding was blackface and antisemitism lol. So yeah, quite the opposite 😂

[@petriew2018]

@@jeffhall768 i mean, when it was founded, that WAS family entertainment.... context sucks all the fun out of internet 'burns', doesn't it? But still, it really is tragic when you think about it. Disney used to be a shining example of creativity and possibility in the entertainment industry, synonymous with what fantasy could be Now? originality is anathema, creativity too risky. If it hasn't already been done better somewhere else, Modern Disney has no interest because it doesn't fit their business model. It's quite sad seeing what Iger's turned this company in to.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

@@jeffhall768 You're right... they started with the blackface character Mickey Mouse and now they're telling white men that they they're all oppressors.

[@PavyMac]

I watched QuantumMania and I can say with no left or right influence, it was just truly a terrible movie on almost every level. What they did to poor Modok among other things was simply a travesty. I feels like they hate fans like me but regardless it was truly a terrible terrible experience.

[@ferrarriohh]

Antman 3 should’ve been an Into The Microverse story and cut a deal with Hasbro for Micronauts. Baron Karza as the big bad, and Kang? Kang should’ve been set up in the PAST vs The Eternals (as a tv show like Loki) but set in an alternate timeline.

[@jneilson7568]

It looked like a Christmas decoration store vomited all over the screen, and all the actors looked stiff and bored in the trailers and clips, glad I've skipped this one as well.

[@angusyoung119]

Yeah, the Modok of the MCU is literally a joke. Atleast in the comics and games, he seems like he could actually be a threat

[@MrHawger]

Yup

[@mrnobody9473]

As an Indian myself, why would I buy the subscription to watch MsMarvel, it stars a Pakistani immigrant girl, and We are rivals 2: The only reason I bought the subscription now was to watch the Last of US, but even HBO canceled the deal and gave it's rights to Jio cinema, so all HBO content is gone 3: My brother used to watch Cricket on the TV through Disney+ but now even that is bought by Jio Cinema, in the end they axed their own knees by cancelling the HBO and Cricket IPL deal and as a result are loosing subscribers

[@oldandpeculier3693]

OK...Gary I have a question about "Echo"....WTF are "photographic reflexes" ? 😂

[@FalconFastest123]

I still remember when I first got Disney+. I was so excited to have instant access to all the classic Disney movies I grew up with. Then I turned on Alladin, and saw that condescending warning message at the beginning, you know the one that basically says "this film has bad stereotypes, it was wrong then and is wrong now, we hope to learn from this going forward..." Bla bla bla. I realized at that moment that this was not the same Disney that had once made childhood a magical experience for so many kids. Rather, this was a digital indoctrination program that had been hijacked by cultural Marxists. I knew then that it was all going to be downhill from there, and aside from one or two bright spots, that's exactly what it has been.

[@koopa5504]

Wait they.. excuse me they, WHAT? Have a warning about „wokeist non-sense whatever stereotypes“??

[@animeangel1983]

That's why you buy physical copies, they can't be altered.

[@jackmesrel4933]

Wait, what kind of stereotype does Alladin promote? "poor people have to steal to survive"? "Kidnapping a princess is a good idea if you want to take over a country"?? I don't get it

[@spark300c]

I hoping for classic tv series I grew up with. But no they add alot stuff I could care less about.

[@moserfugger6363]

@@animeangel1983 Yeah, but physical copies take up lots of space and can be very expensive (especially if you want to get the best versions of something like the Disney classics). Not everyone has that luxury. Then there's the problem that physical media has a pretty limited life-span. Some of the first DVDs I've ever bought, already don't work anymore. Some of them Limited Editions, which cost a lot back then. Yeah, you could make copies etc. - but again: Not everybody has the time and ressources to do so. Some people just wanna switch on their TV and click on the movie/show they want to watch. So your advice might be good for nerds, but not for the regular consumer. Greetings from Germany :=)

[@CommanderPowers]

I almost choked to death on my coffee at the "It will be extremely heartbreaking for the 4 fans" line 😂 Hail Nerdrotic! Hail the Fellowship!

[@heretic124]

Disney cooking D+ books? No way! Next thing you're gonna tell me is that they bought out empty theatres to make MCU movies look more profitable. Or that they cooked Disneyworld books too. Oh wait... 👀

[@HerculesBallsInc]

Totes! To be an investor in Disney you have to be pretty okay with shady accounting, because Disney's been doing it (and getting caught) for a long time. You'd think they'd be better at it by now, lol!

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

I thought Disney had a CFO. Why does she seemingly never have her head put on the platter as the CFO? She allows all this money wasting to happen, can't all be blamed on the CEO.

[@KingRandor82]

Or that they do very shady work for Epstein....

[@chrisw6164]

I am a lifelong Marvel comics fan and I have no idea who Echo is. The Echo I AM familiar with was an independent Terry Moore comic book series, and it was really good. In fact, it would make for a very entertaining tv show for normies, and particularly women.

[@mhc706]

Ummmmm I feel very strongly that the term “photographic reflexes” means the character will be able to beat anyone without training and they’ll claim “it’s because she saw someone do it once on tv or whatever” Wtf is photographic reflexes?!

[@Wulfhaze]

I love when Disney loses money and their solution is to lose more money. I want more M-She-U and general wokennes just to see what they do at the end of the rope.

[@random__joe]

Can't wait to see such winners as Marvel's the Marvels, and who can forget about upcoming projects such as the Rey movie from lucasfilm

[@toh6261]

​@@random__joe Don't forget Indiana Jones. I know it's not Marvel, but it is Disney and, WOW... Is it ever gonna tank 😂

[@cassiefuchs3657]

Sunk cost fallacy.

[@EK14MeV]

Bob/“Schwab” Iger is ultimately responsible for the whole crash. He was there the whole time, hiding behind Chapek during the Coof.

[@alexandriahasvold7223]

Disney is the Bud light of the film industry

[@georgeawestjr.9087]

You can add Molson Coors, the owners of Miller beer. 😁🤣🤪😂🙄😊🤦🤷

[@am_ac]

Folks at Disney didn't bid for the pretty massive cricket league broadcast in India that had got them several million subscribers, instead they invested that money in making appalling MSheU content. Smart.

[@ViolentMessiah666]

I am shocked! This is my shocked face 😐 great video Gary, maybe one day Hollywood will wake the hell up & realize there's no such thing as "Too big to fail"

[@Erin-cw4ct]

Love the emoji in that comment. I laughed to myself big time 🤣

[@fatherwilliam7256]

Iger never left. He just sat behind the scenes (as a paid consultant still attached to the board) and let Chapek take the blame if his plans for D+ failed. Or he could be praised as a visionary in the industry if it worked. Meanwhile he was free to find out there was absolutely no appetite with the donor class for him to run for president.

[@crazyralph6386]

Chapek was merely the fall guy since he’s not a tribe member.

[@savethefantasticfour292]

As a long-term (read middle-aged) comic fan with an extensive collection that goes back to the 60's I can safely say that I represent a normal mainstream knowledgeable comic fan/collector, someone who was thrilled when comic book-based movies and tv became a real thing. Marvel has purposefully chosen to go with less popular characters (sometimes practically totally unknown) that even people like myself have only the barest familiarity with. They have done so for ideological reasons. What a disaster for a company that is supposedly attempting to make as much profit as possible.

[@clogs4956]

Ditto, but I am familiar with the lesser-known characters and absolutely hate the mess that Disney has made of them.

[@lancekemal8989]

I've been reading comics since the 2000's and I fell the same even though I know most of these characters. Never liked Jane Foster or Shang Chi and Shuri was basically irrelevant in the comics before the MCU. I really hate Falcon Cap because only Patriot deserves to be Steve's successor if anyone.

[@christiancsq]

So you don't want new original characters? 🤔

[@GodwynDi]

​@@christiancsq Not if its shit.

[@onomatopoeia5540]

​@@christiancsq which one? The lgbtqsabcsegh? Or the race swapping? 😂😂😂

[@raeldri5867]

I still remember when the ant man and guardians of the galaxy were the movie to give fans a break from the serious and narrative not the hope to retain fans 😂

[@mattcorley9811]

In the 60's, 70's, and even 80's Disney would release movies that they knew would bomb at the box office to maintain their "brand". Even if they lost money, they knew their target audience would associate the Disney name with family-friendly movies. Fast forward to today, they are doing the same thing. We are NOT the target audience anymore. Unsupervised / impressionable kids and teens are, along with activist type's. Their mistake is that they assumed the IP would keep the fan-boys no matter what and then they could just add these other target groups. The assumed we would just keep consuming the slop as long as it had MARVEL slapped on it. Wrong

[@phillm156]

Secret invasion was the worst smoldering pile of manure!!

[@Jrocc811]

This video was so well done. I actually stood up and applauded Gary at the end. Nobody does this better than Gary. 👏

[@j453]

As someone who grew up watching the fox xmen and spiderman cartoons, bill bixby/ lou ferrigno incredible hulk re-runs, got as many comics as I could as a kid. I wanted to go to art school to learn how to draw too... it all just makes me really sad to see ID-Pol kill my childhood favorites.

[@crazyralph6386]

The 90’s X-Men Animated series was one of the best cartoons ever made. I loved when they did a crossover with the Spider-Man cartoon in the 90’s also! Good times!!!

[@j453]

@@crazyralph6386 yes! I saw those! Very good times!

[@davidbraccini4770]

Rip Galaxy’s Edge and Rip Disney+ fake numbers. Disney is just losing money everywhere.

[@TheFixer_1]

Nothing more than they deserve

[@stephjezo6470]

What is that phrase about going woke again? 😂

[@TheFixer_1]

@@stephjezo6470 it turns to shit?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

line go down, line go down! (panicked screaming)

[@simondavis750]

The funniest part is about to come. Their plan to fix this is to jack up the price and cram in more advertising to their "budget" plans.

[@MS-sb9ov]

Disney is toast but where’s the real competition making movies and tv the audience actually cares about?

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

I remember sitting in the cinema for both Avengers and Infinity war, there was such a palpable atmosphere of anticipation. I havent seen a marvel movie in cinemas since endgame

[@Ionic457]

go see GotG 3!

[@davidgantenbein9362]

I have watched 2 phase 4&5 MCU movies in cinema: Spider-Man No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I liked both, but they had one thing in common, they were done by the same people as their phase 1-3 predecessors. Imo the MCU died, when they hired new people for phase 3&4. Whatever golden touch they had in hiring during phase 1-3, imo it’s gone and the MCU is done as a result.

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

@@davidgantenbein9362 yeah the production team lacked vision, but imo, they saw the anti-White Black Panther and the anti-male ms marvel did well at the box office, and they decided to yield to the anti-west agenda pushers thinking people would still consooooom. They put agenda > story and this is the result.

[@ladybug591]

The whole point is their ideological burning desire to destroy anything iconic and American, the things that brightened our day - they are not there to make money - they don't care what it costs - they don't care if no-one watches because that was their aim. Somehow we trusted these people to keep entertaining us, we the hated the deplorables? If WE are too lazy now to start making the kind of films WE like to watch then they have succeeded. Everyone has lost out and they win. Thanks for your very good comments.

[@Gray.Karen333]

People will just start watching non-woke, international content instead.

[@crazyralph6386]

Yep, it’s all part of demoralizing the Western populace.

[@Wolffur]

Ah, but they also expose themselves and their ideology for what it is. Eventually the world of entertainment will inevitably rise from the ashes, with new players, and lessons learned.

[@englishatheart]

They absolutely care about money. Why do you think they have made their parks inaccessible to most people who aren't rich? The parks should be accessible to anyone, regardless of their income. Now, unless you're wealthy, know someone who is, willing to go into debt, willing to save up for years in advance for a trip that lasts less than a week, or local enough to get a discount or to justify a season pass, you're essentially considering unworthy of entering their parks. It's bad enough people are forced to work and pay to exist, but life's enjoyments shouldn't be reserved just for the rich. I personally have no desire to go to one of their parks and wouldn't even if I could afford it, but those who want to should be allowed to even if they're poor. We all need and deserve some escapism.

[@indiajohnson]

​@@englishatheart 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@MarkRVillano]

Dropping a guaranteed loser like Echo all at once is their "Ripping Off the Band-Aid" strategy of just getting it over with. Airing it in dribs and drabs would only prolong the agony, providing fresh fodder on a weekly basis. This way it tanks, and is then forgotten about as quickly as possible.

[@JonsDDVlog]

Thank you. I love hearing information from people who know what they are talking about.

[@anon_y_mousse]

I can't imagine that the two people who didn't like it were still listening at the end, but stranger things have happened. I suspect you're right about the binge model, but I'd rather have all of them use that model so I can pay for one month, watch all the shows I want and can in that month and then quit. Really gives me more value for my dollhairs.

[@ChuckBerrington]

A hint could be what you've seen in The Rings of Power. So imagine the viewership numbers as shows move forward, the drop-off must be incredible massive. This might reduce the drop-off as they can then measure the difference. I think it will be surprising on how this show will perform. But I also believe that they're measuring the difference, so while they may space material apart it will be to keep most of their content ready for the upcoming Hulu merger. Which is really the lead: Disney+ is a dead platform, it will be absorbed into Hulu. Which depending on how you do the branding, could be sign on how bad the Disney brand is perceived publicly.

[@savedbygrace1582]

With their admitting to "queering" the children, they are no longer safe and reliable for families.

[@meal_team_six]

I found the Fed!

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

Disney thinks we hate them, but we've seen the great things they are capable of, and it's just sad to see the mess they are in now, and they brought it on themselves.

[@majorgear1021]

I hate them.

[@daleviker5884]

@ Paul Murgatroyd "Disney thinks we hate them". Good, our message was loud and clear.

[@siewca1229]

... and we hate them.

[@Pahoe77]

And they're right. They were formerly good( before buying everything under the sun, to ruin.), now they're not

[@meal_team_six]

That was then, this is now. Totally different company than even 20 years ago

[@Faerandur]

Disney has so much good stuff on their back catalog. All they had to do was put everything on a single streaming service instead of dividing it between multiple streamings. I was so pissed at signing up D+ only to find out there was almost no Fox content, like my beloved Simpsons’ early seasons. 😢

[@tobygoodman9134]

I recently cancelled my Disney+, but then renewed it again because I wanted to watch Malcolm in the middle. Lol.

[@wildfire160]

I`d point out the Ms Marvel had no chance of keeping the India accounts because it focused on a time when India and Pakistan were in conflict and the most of the characters in it were Pakistani not Indian

[@ardent963]

Disney not touching the X-Men yet, gives me a small shred of hope... That they sell the property, before they fu*k it up.

[@0N0B_0]

Its marvel of course their gonna bring them in. Its probably gonna be a phase 6 movie or they will appear in secret wars.

[@indiajohnson]

Yeah, I have no good feelings nor confidence that they'll do any good with X-Men.

[@thundercatshooo600]

Disney - the place were once popular franchises go to die!

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney - The best friend of our childhoods to The enemy of our adulthoods.

[@guyverjay1289]

Imagine having the entirety of the marvel back catalogue of characters and stories to make films and tv shows of and you some how you choose the likes of Echo, Miss Marvel and Ironheart Truly baffling

[@Lelldorin84]

Disney reminds of a scene in the Simpsons. Abe Simpson and Montgomery Burns are standing in a graveyard. Burns says to Abe, "Oh Simpson, can't you go 5 seconds without humiliating yourself?" *2 seconds of silence, then his suspenders snap, and his pants fall down, exposing his underwear* Abe looks at Burns and says, "How long was that?"

[@donchichivagabond1578]

Another studio should offer Disney money for individual male characters and do it publicly. Offer a lowball price. It’s a win win and will force Disney into some action.

[@RvkKJ]

As an Indian, I can confirm. D+ had a lot of subscribers in India for just 2 reasons, 1)The app they use here, Disney + Hostar, had the rights for all HBO and HBO max content releasing in India 2)Indian Premier League(IPL) streaming rights. If you don't know what IPL is, it is the second biggest sports league in the world valued at $10bn+ just behind NFL and it is soon said to overtake it. With both of these moving to Jiocinema, D+ will soon sink into failure.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I know about the IPL but I hadn't heard about them having the HBO rights too. Losing those had to have been brutal for D+ numbers.

[@samblack5313]

I’m glad the IPL is doing so well. Cricketers basically used to play for country pride, they had no professional outlet to earn big dollars for their skill.

[@RvkKJ]

@@BiggieTrismegistus That is because, the now Disney + Hostar app, was just Hotstar before launch of D+. Hotstar was owned by Star Network who had contracts with HBO until March 2023. Hotstar and Star World(TV Channel) was the only source of HBO content in India. Since HBO doesn't have it's designated TV channel nor a streaming network here due to pricing issues. Star Network was acquired by Disney India in 2017. Now that the contracts are done. HBO has moved to a new partner. It's very cheap though. We get all HBO max content, same time as you people, for $12 a year, yes A YEAR. Even Netflix Ultra HD premium with 5 accounts is only $7.5 a month here. But Netflix's India library is bad compared to it's western counterparts.

[@christiancsq]

Thank you for proving the video is a pos

[@arnoldmunez5057]

Dear goodness there is really an entire country of people who are big enough losers to watch cricket? Like cmon I know it’s India but get some culture, cricket? You people must have absolutely nothing to do out there but be covered in mosquitoes and eat mangoes.

[@mightyporkinplowastranger8705]

The movie advert before this was hilarious bc it was a move about some lady and guy talking about going viral. They literally are having to farm the content that is REPLACING Hollywood for movie ideas now lol.

[@j.robertbois610]

Dear Mr. Nerdrotic, thank you once again for outstanding journalism and analysis. You are my go-to for keeping my knowledge up on all things woke in the Disney and Marvel worlds (among other things). Most appreciated.

[@Martyisruling]

They just need people who actually like the genre and source material. Or, respect it enough to read the history of the characters and their great stories. I'm really hoping they don't screw up the Fantastic Four, The Thing is my all time favorite character. I would love to see a faithful adaptation. They came real close twenty years ago.

[@Likexner]

Still hoping, huh?

[@randomviewer6244]

They'll find a way to massacre The Fantastic 4

[@zendodeb]

Gary, you are not paying your editors enough. The editing in this episode is golden!

[@Zakalwe-01]

Can’t wait for these 2023 releases. You guys are going to produce so much good content! 👏😂👍

[@teakostroud719]

No we love a GOOD superhero move but Disney hasn’t been making those. So we don’t watch the crap 💩

[@Judyhopps-1iq]

Disney has destory the Superheros and they made they own marvel that woke and only females

[@johnstevens9673]

Guardians of the Galaxy, end of Marvel. The mshe-u in full swing and doing a fantastic job losing money. They know exactly what their fans want.

[@Kal_g]

I like how in the thumbnail, the Grim Reaper is taking a selfie. Giving off those "Feeling cute, might destroy a beloved franchise later", vibes.

[@CrRaZzyX]

I haven't seen anything MCU related since endgame, Tony and the Cap were my most favourite characters and what they did to Thor was just dirty, glad i left the ship early.

[@maximustrolleus9860]

what did they do to thor? spiderman 3 and gotg3 are some of the best movies so you missed out

[@debbiebrantley61]

They turned Thor into a frat boy they ruined him

[@maximustrolleus9860]

@@debbiebrantley61 in endgame? That was supposed to be character development

[@TruthTellert63]

@@maximustrolleus9860 More like "character assasination."

[@maximustrolleus9860]

@@TruthTellert63 literally half the universe died, you dont think hes going to be depressed? It makes it more realistic.

[@alfjones6377]

Disney is learning the hard way: whenever you put women first before your own purpose you lose out on time and money and success.

[@exodiatheforbiddenone3813]

This old guy with his toys, in his basement. Crying over Disney and complaining how no one makes movies for old men anymore! Disney is for young people. Read Books!! Read Newspapers!!! I cant stand these grey ass old men crying over children superheros.

[@maguffintop2596]

Well they somehow managed to find, hire, and promote the least qualified females currently residing on earth.

[@jaredwalker3960]

Disney: "Oh no, anyway" *proceeds to fail even more*

[@exodiatheforbiddenone3813]

@@jaredwalker3960 Why should Disney listen a bunch of grey-ass old men crying over modernity! Stop crying over Disney and be Adults and read books

[@meal_team_six]

Ironic that all the writers it seems when they show any the behind -the-scenes are predominately female. It's like they lack any insight, foresight, and critical thinking only responding to the moment with "girl power" platitudes

[@Sergio255-e3l]

Wandavision was actually pretty good, but yes, every other MCU product for TV is absolute garbage, unfortunately, and it does not seem to be improving any time soon.

[@misterl0gic]

"Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same." That's a heavy line - glad y'all posted it in the description.

[@pandaagentbamboo1341]

the "no one stays dead in the comics except for Uncle Ben" comment hit like a ton of bricks. 😢14:35

[@artamussumatra6286]

Marvel needs much more People of Talent representation! Shouldn’t be hard to fix, they used to be pretty good at it.

[@paulnicholson5997]

This is ridiculous. Does D+ REALLY think we want 2nd Loki season? NO! Agatha Harkness anyone? NO! That leaves Echo, uh thats going to be a MAJOR Hell No! These ppl at Disney are just sooooo CLUELESS! WTF!

[@paperdo]

I knew that Disney was looking at a lawsuit as soon as all these companies started offering free subscriptions for Disney plus with other services. Sure, it was a deal that was inked between two companies, and I'm positive that they both benefited from the deal. But, it allowed Disney to artificially inflate the numbers of subscribers that disney plus had. Everyone that I know took advantage of the one year of disney plus for verizon customers. While, I know very few that kept the subscription after the year. None of the people that just used the free deal were true paying customers. Seemed like a textbook example of willingly trying to mislead investors.

[@failingup4907]

It's amazing how many people don't understand what's going on. Bob Iger is all about the World economic forum. Therefore he cares more about the ESG score than he does about good content and making money. Bud light and others are doing the same thing. It's kind of funny how marvel phase 1,2 & 3 were awesome and now the new stuff is all about diversity.. it's all about appeasing the WEF. Black Rock will cover their losses. Now you understand. Until they don't have very many fans left, this will continue.

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

I never held any antipathy towards the house of mouse until about 2017, since that point its been a steady decline.

[@meal_team_six]

Mine started with The Force Awakens. 🙄 I knew Star Wars was doomed. The only thing worse than watching something fail is to watch it fail slowly! 😐

[@JamieHitt]

Marvel just might be remembered as a case study in missed opportunity.

[@chelseagrinfan1]

11:02 that Gimli laugh insert gets me so much that I have to go back to that a few times and keep laughing John Rhys-Davies played him so well

[@gloriasdaughter940]

I watched Ms Marvel and it was cute, but not good enough for me to really care if she's gone. I blatantly refused to watch She hulk because I didn't like having the feministic SheRo trope shoved down my throat. The show basically seemed to suggest that she hulk was way better than the hulk in every single way, including how she handled being the hulk just because she was a girl power character. I genuinely hated it before it was even released.

[@zerg6001]

I think they forgot Hawkeye on the female led d+ shows list. Eventually they’ll make a version of Spider-Man with 2 ‘moms’ and it will be aunt Jen instead of uncle Ben

[@michaelkeegan9260]

The continuous drop in quality of the vfx both practical and chi in the starwars and marvel movies and series has been proof for a while now that disney is running out of money.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

And fucks to give

[@fortcastellan1730]

Ah, Echo. She ranks right up there with Stilt-Man when it comes to popular Daredevil villains! Can't wait to see her show....

[@darcsteel]

The greatest trick Iger ever pulled was convincing people that he was ever not in charge.

[@meal_team_six]

Learned from Biden

[@buda3d2007]

The John Majors hype train was weird, at least other stars generated their own rizz, the artificial rizz generated by the media was creepy, so the mount comment was very fitting

[@divedweller4295]

230-260 million. . . isn't that around 3% of the global pop? That's ludicrous.

[@nashadesouza6522]

I'm a 40 year old woman and I grew up on comics it was my world and to see how my most favorite my favs and my liked characters I used to enjoy can't even wait for their latest movie releases now I don't even bother to watch to confusing frustrating and 😢 to watch

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

So despite the smash success of Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3 Disney is still hemorrhaging profits and stock value? Sucks to be them but they’ve only themselves to blame.

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

Fun fact. Dust was co-created by Ethan Van Sciver.

[@jesterfeathers]

Such is the fate of an entertainment company that’s no longer interested in entertaining its audience.

[@ivermectin1974]

If Verizon wireless makes its subs pay for Disney plus then that’s the end of that streaming service. Considering at least 30% of Disney + subs come from Verizon wireless.

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Disney kinda perfected the way of creating negative news & bad content, the stuff franchise-nightmares are made of, that get released 24/7, for several years... quite the achievement 😵‍💫

[@jprsfragoso]

That detail of the reaper taking a selfie is amazing 😂😂