Suwalki Gap: The Most Vulnerable Place in Europe to Putin? - TLDR News

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You may never have heard of the Suwalki gap, but many experts think it might be the most vulnerable place in Europe (and potentially Putin's real target). So in this video, we'll explain why Putin might want to capture the tiny area and the serious ramifications of Russia taking the gap.
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@VictorECaplon
@VictorECaplon 2 жыл бұрын
As much as an attack on Ukraine is possible, an attack on the gap is much less likely. Because the Countries attacked are both in NATO and the EU. With France and other EU members pushing for an EU Army and common defense territory, I simply cannot see the EU nations allow a foreign attach on EU territory without going to war, as this would mean the end of the EU.
@Hilariusgamer
@Hilariusgamer 2 жыл бұрын
attack on this gap would basically mean start of World War 3 but attack on Ukraine probably not
@rufanuf1
@rufanuf1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes look at the way those polticians reacted to Brexit. "WE must protect the dingle market (ourselves)." Theyd start a war over anything once they have an army. Just like America.
@zbigniewp1810
@zbigniewp1810 2 жыл бұрын
EU will end then
@lovelyhomeboy1584
@lovelyhomeboy1584 2 жыл бұрын
@@rufanuf1 not reallyamerica would never attack a nation which would start ww3
@diablo5028
@diablo5028 2 жыл бұрын
@@zbigniewp1810 😂😂 I’ve seen you comment on other videos you Russian bot
@janvalasekcz
@janvalasekcz 2 жыл бұрын
There is a huge difference between Donbas and Suwalki Gap. Suwalki Gap would mean directly attacking NATO and EU countries without any justification (no russian minority in Poland). That would basically be a start of WW3 and that can go only two ways: a) nuclear holocaust (everybody loses) or b) protracted conventional war where as history has always shown us the economically stronger bloc wins.
@pexadico
@pexadico 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah like bruh. I'm Polish and it's the first time im hearing about the concept of closing it lmao. Doesn't make sense for Russia to attempt that
@Toonhai
@Toonhai 2 жыл бұрын
Poland is American territory for this moment. And you do not f..k with USA.
@zbigniewp1810
@zbigniewp1810 2 жыл бұрын
@@pexadico you don't read much on the matter then. In military/defense circles it's a topic for like 15 years now - read some historical NTW, Polska Zbrojna, and Raport WTO articles. General conclusion of these (and later, including current) articles is that right now there is no way to stop Russia of they pull the trigger, and once they stop their advance and dig in it, is highly unlikely to be met with an armed retaliation. NATO would probably settle on ceasefire like in Donbas in 2015 (why the French or Germans would die for Suwałki?) The only way to prevent that from happening is not letting them succeed in the first place, but that'll require a 180 shift from current approach and serious investments into defensive infrastructure. In turn that'd make little economic sense as the area is easy to encircle, hard to reinforce and very open to Russian airpower and ballistic missile fire - in case of all out war a total waste of resources. I'd say the key now is to stop Putin in Ukraine - if he gets what he wants there, you are guaranteed 100% that there will be an attack on the Gap, and it will very likely be a russian success. At least without a major shift in Wests approach that is.
@vijaykumarnadaraja531
@vijaykumarnadaraja531 2 жыл бұрын
That fascist thug, Putin, is a nightmare. I support you Poles in countering that devil.
@vladyslavpidlisnyi
@vladyslavpidlisnyi 2 жыл бұрын
Because they're clearly had justification in Donbas back than
@pontifexbenedictvs5793
@pontifexbenedictvs5793 2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong about Lukashenko’s willingness to unite with Russia. The idea of a unitary state came up in the first place in the time of his wild political ambitions, when he looked for a way to become a Russian president (that was before Putin and due to Yeltsin’s low popular support it wasn’t very crazy idea) But after Putin ended up in Kremlin, the whole idea started working another way. Belarus started borrowing more and more from Russia, and the whole ‘Unitary State’ idea just became a tool to drain more money in exchange for ‘pleasing’ Putin’s imperial ambitions, always ending up rolled back. For example just about year and a half ago we had those ‘roadmap talks’ on uniting different areas like taxes, parliaments and currency, basically the whole sovereignty was discussed behind the closed doors (imagine the fact that the public doesn’t know what this roadmaps are about yet). All the media had been talking for about 3 months that there is only 1 roadmap left to discuss before suddenly all the talks halted and the idea left to rot. But Lukashenko got his another 3 billion check :) I hope it explains a bit how our despotic politics work. Sincerely, Your Belarusian viewer.
@markusz4447
@markusz4447 2 жыл бұрын
Sad for you guys. Is it extremely difficult for belarussians to migrate into the EU? or are many of you just really fond of your home and thus not leaving?
@sssd3461
@sssd3461 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for so info hope you are safe
@kapudanuderya
@kapudanuderya 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think there would be a unification in the future and is it viable?
@pontifexbenedictvs5793
@pontifexbenedictvs5793 2 жыл бұрын
@@markusz4447 thanks for your support. It’s possible to migrate to Poland with their governmental program - if you have Polish roots (a lot of us do), and if you learn Polish on a basic level + pass an exam and collect a pile of documents, you’ll get so-called ‘Pole’s card’. It’s something like semi-passport that gives you free healthcare, education and a lot more inside Poland + free movement within the EU. But in reality it almost entirely depends on your qualifications. If you are not earning much in Belarus (starting from around 1500€, whilst our average salary is around 300-400€), you won’t even accumulate enough money for a head start in a new country. About patriotism - I do believe we had a national resurrection back in 2020, in a way - we developed a lot of organisations that helped coping Covid (Lukashenko is an ardent Covid-denier, he told we can treat it with vodka), helped to pay fines during the protests, identified people in special police forces, we even had an app that lets you scan any product in a supermarket to identify if the manufacturer is supportive of the regime or not. So naturally a lot of people have a strong bond with the country and their fellow countrymen, so I believe when the time comes, there will be a big wave of repatriation.
@pontifexbenedictvs5793
@pontifexbenedictvs5793 2 жыл бұрын
@@kapudanuderya no, honestly I don’t think so. In this scenario Lukashenko needs to be both without money and without any ways to get it. For now we have a lot of assets he could sell to bail himself out - whole set of automobile plants (we have at least 3 important), and a big potash fertilizer producer, accounting for 20% of global supply, so it worths like hundreds of billions of dollars, whilst our GDP is only around 60 billions. Putin won’t annex Belarus - we’re serving him too well as a buffer zone between EU and Russia. He just wants to have a strong hook on our regime, so whatever happens it stays pro-Russia. Otherwise he’s left with no allies in Europe.
@phylismaddox4880
@phylismaddox4880 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? It's not a mountain pass that could be defended - taking a road on a plain between two hostiles is insane. The Russians would have to make significant incursions into both Lithuania and Poland in order to be able to hold the territory. Otherwise the hostiles can just harass them with artillery until they leave. So they either start a war with NATO or get embarrassed by Poland and Lithuania. Without having first annexed the anything but reliable Belarus. That's more like Risk being played by a couple of 5 year olds. This whole thing is looking increasingly like an exercise in annoying NATO.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 2 жыл бұрын
I really love internet military experts like you. You have a point about the possibility of starting a war with NATO but the rest of your comment doesn't make a lick of sense. The current conclusion of the Polish military and experts is that the Suwałki gap is virtually indefensible since it would be very easy to encircle any major force trying to either protect it or counterattack. In fact, the current conclusion is that once Russians stop their advance and dig in it, is highly unlikely to be met with an armed retaliation. NATO would probably settle on a ceasefire like in Donbas in 2015 After all why would the French or Germans die for Suwałki?
@joas3324
@joas3324 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Co ty bredzisz Kamilku???
@Bambim8
@Bambim8 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 LMAO P.S. Russian bot
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bambim8 Apparently Polish experts like Ph.D. Bartosiak or Prof. Sykulski are Russian bots now. Because I'm basically summarizing their opinions.
@TheLuuuuuc
@TheLuuuuuc 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 Probably because they are part of NATO and literally the whole point of it is to protect member states that are attacked, like when a foreign power dicides to take a stripe of their land?
@tinhov1
@tinhov1 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot imagine, lithuania or poland not triggering article 5 of the NATO treaty in case, russian troops try to secure the gap. Putin would be an idiot to think otherwise. The other question is though, would NATO respond or just give it up. I am not sure, if Putin wants to gamble on that.
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
Poland will never give a part of it's territory. Especially to Russia
@QuentinWatt
@QuentinWatt 2 жыл бұрын
If NATO nations get nervous and fire first, that’s all Russia needs to look innocent and say it acted in self defence.
@tinhov1
@tinhov1 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuentinWatt I can't imagine NATO "fire" first, as it is a defensive alliance. They don't attack as an alliance. If Poland or Lithuania attack first, NATO should not intervene militarily according to the treaty. That said, a false flag operation by either side is still possible.
@MrVeryfrost
@MrVeryfrost 2 жыл бұрын
"Lithuanian terrorists exploded Russian train crossing Lithuania territory. 250 Russian casualties on the board. Russia's military must protect the safety of movement of Russian peaceful citizens". Do you think Portugal or Greece would go to war with Russia for the 100Km line when Putin tells "calm down, we only stay here to ensure stability (like in Padniestre), not expanding anymore. It's your territory but we will ensure the safety of movement between the two Russian countries, at least until the official investigation ends. How about that? Can we have a friendly chat instead of starting a nuclear war?"
@jonb914
@jonb914 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrVeryfrost Sure, they can refuse the call and be kicked out of NATO. Now they can be on their own in a rapidly heating world. Portugal might be fine since there is literally no one but Spain touching them but not sure I'd want to be Greece.
@michaelritzen8138
@michaelritzen8138 2 жыл бұрын
Highly militarised or not, a combined NATO naval fleet would still be able to secure and defend the Baltic sea. So complete isolation of the Baltic states would be very hard to achieve. Also, NATO at this point enjoys the position of having troops on both sides of Kaliningrad, which would make a push from Belarus difficult and potentially very costly.
@HidingAllTheWay
@HidingAllTheWay 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, plus Ukraine is one thing, but invading countries that are NATO and EU members are a completely different kettle of fish diplomatically.
@timogul
@timogul 2 жыл бұрын
Well, in a military sense this is true, they couldn't shut off those states completely, but from a practical standpoint, having a convenient land route is very significant to trade and just general quality of life. Blocking off that crossing or putting some sort of other restrictions on it would make life a lot harder for people living in those countries. It would be like what England did to the UK in Brexit.
@joerourke8393
@joerourke8393 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah - those Kaliber missiles wouldn't be able to touch them!
@valipunctro
@valipunctro 2 жыл бұрын
The assumption was that NATO will just let them.
@exlibrisas
@exlibrisas 2 жыл бұрын
Yah, I just wish NATO had more than 2 tanks and 5 planes here in the Baltics...
@almerindaromeira8352
@almerindaromeira8352 2 жыл бұрын
You are overestimating Kaliningrad. Nuclear weapons have strategic value but no tactical one. Also the Russian Baltic fleet can't keep up with Swedish+NATO's fleet
@brutester
@brutester 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of modern anti-ship missiles that can deny passage of any vessel in 100s of miles. This is the same problem in the strait of Hormuz - in case of conflict Iran can close it.
@almerindaromeira8352
@almerindaromeira8352 2 жыл бұрын
@@brutester that applies to both sides. The difference being that Kaliningrad is an enclave with limited supplies. Once the logistics are disrupted it's only a question of time until NATO establishes superiority in the baltic sea
@HellDuke-
@HellDuke- 2 жыл бұрын
@@almerindaromeira8352 the problem is all in the pacing. They need only to close the corridor and the Baltic sea for a short while to capture the Baltic states. Once that is done they can move resources directly via land with no way for NATO to disrupt the supply chain.
@brutester
@brutester 2 жыл бұрын
@@almerindaromeira8352 yes that is true. That is why the russians are stockpiling military equipment in there. @HellDuke already replied with the tactics. The problem for us (in NATO) is that Baltic states are isolated from the main forces. With modern armor russian tanks can run over the countryside in hours - destroying all supply lines for cities and opning a land bridge to Kaliningrad.
@ionnanskilliorus6877
@ionnanskilliorus6877 2 жыл бұрын
@@HellDuke- Hahaha What fantasy are you living in? If Putin tries to capture the Baltic states, it won't be just NATOs navy he'll have to deal with. It will be the full force of land sea and air and believe me his supply chains will not just be disrupted, they will be obliterated.
@ZTanMURReneRs
@ZTanMURReneRs 2 жыл бұрын
An attack on any EU or NATO country is something entirely different to an attack on Ukraine. These are both.The comparison is absurd. If Russia does anything there it will have to deal with the entirety of the NATO and the EU. And it could never win that. The idea that Putins willingness to use force in Ukraine shows he would be willing to attack a NATO or EU country is quite simplistic I think. Ukraine is a very specific scenario exactly because it is not in NATO or the EU yet.
@exlibrisas
@exlibrisas 2 жыл бұрын
I do not have hope to get NATOs and West's help in a time of crisis for us here in the Baltics. They are more concerned about making a sweet dolla and using the correct pronouns, than having a strong spine against despotism. But who knows.
@MrVeryfrost
@MrVeryfrost 2 жыл бұрын
I think it all comes to NATO and EU softness. Let's not forget there was an obligation by UK and France to defend Poland prior to WW2. If Putin finds that he can bring NATO to diplomatic talks after a quick invade of the Suwalki corridor, then Putin most certainly goes for it.
@BernasLL
@BernasLL 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine being invaded was seen as preposterous a few years ago, and almost every war that ever existed was seen as unlikely in the scale it escalated to. Be mindful that games are being played by power players who will see the risk / reward analysis very differently to people minding their own business.
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 жыл бұрын
after 1991, NATO pretty much became a group to protect US interests at the Atlantic. Yugoslavia. Libya. Now Ukraine. Going beyond member states
@MrVeryfrost
@MrVeryfrost 2 жыл бұрын
@@sinoroman US interests align with western interests. So it works well. Most Yugoslavians wanted there to have their own independently ruled nations - again it aligned with US and NATO interests too as NATO was built to protect democratic countries. Don't see a conflict with this. Ukrainians want to EU and NATO. NATO , ES and US stand for their wishes.
@generalamsel437
@generalamsel437 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunatly TLDR is placing a lot more into Russia's military capabilites then it actually has, especially by hpyothetically declaring that the Russian Baltic fleet will somehow be able to combat the entire combined fleets of NATO on its own. Russia is not suicidal, and they only reason they would ever make a serious play for this region is when NATO either A. Just does not exist, or B. Is in such a state that it cannot physically respond to outside aggression, at which point it may as well not exist.
@Matrix27594
@Matrix27594 2 жыл бұрын
NATO can't use all of its naval forces in the Baltics. If they did, Taiwan would become Chinese, Iran could start new wars and Russia could rampage in the Black Sea and Mediterranean
@djroguefireify
@djroguefireify 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matrix27594 You forget that NATO isn't just the United States - European NATO also has a navy that overpowers their Russian counterparts. And besides the US navy has multiple navy theatre commands for a reason.
@generalamsel437
@generalamsel437 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matrix27594 they don't have to, they only need some of it, I was just saying that in the end, any hope of Russia gaining control of the Baltic sea on its own is a pipe dream.
@Slavic_Goblin
@Slavic_Goblin 2 жыл бұрын
Or C, a Russo-NATO war has already started. ;) But at that point nukes are already in the air, so it's a moot point. ;)
@iamaloafofbread8926
@iamaloafofbread8926 2 жыл бұрын
That is because they got what we call a "biased perspective."
@pauliucasp
@pauliucasp 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a weak topic, sorry. Russia has no claims for the Suwalki gap and it would mean attacking Nato countries (PL and LT). Just after Belarus started sending imigrants to these countries both Poland and Lithuania greatly increased patrols around their borders. This would be an all out war declaration to take this path with not much strategic advantage, if you are going down all of Nato anyway.
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 2 жыл бұрын
God, we are waiting here in Poland for them to do it, and we will die willingly to obliterate Russian forces for stepping at Polish soil once again. If you think Russians are mad Poles are beyond insane.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
This is messed up. They see Russia as unreasonably aggressive and prepared to do crazy shit, yet not a single word has been said regarding NATO's invitation of neutral European nations like Finland, Sweden and Austria to join. NATO is looking to gain a new northern front and contain CSTO even further, wouldn't that require a video on... How do they name such videos? Oh yes... "TLDR explains: Biden's NEXT target?" I guess not. After all, America's cause is the establishment of peace.
@fanbuoy9234
@fanbuoy9234 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 Sweden and Finland are more or less NATO members in everything but name and have been openly discussing the pros and cons of formally joining for a long time, with public opinion swinging increasingly in favor of it. It's not like NATO is on some frenzied recruitment spree.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
@@fanbuoy9234 For real? I don't know, Sweden has been keen on staying neutral since the end of the Napoleonic wars, while Finland had signed an agreement with the Soviet Union to remain neutral during the heated Cold War era.
@fanbuoy9234
@fanbuoy9234 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 For real. I'm Swedish, so I tend to keep track of the situation :) Public opinion is evenly split between joining and staying out (with about 30% undecided), while 4 out of 8 parties in the parliament are in favor of joining (not a majority of seats though). If Putin invades Ukraine or does something similarly adventurous, I think opinion will switch firmly in favor of joining. As for Finland, I don't have the same insight, but my understanding is that they have a similar debate. And while I don't think there is a formal agreement, there is a bit of an accepted understanding that one nation won't join without the other, so it's likely a package deal or nothing.
@mossowski96
@mossowski96 2 жыл бұрын
While the Suwałki Gap is just a line on a map, Russia can't simply overtake a line. To move anything through there they would have to add annex some territory (even as little as a few meters to build a road or a railway) which would automatically trigger NATO's mutual defense clause. Attacking Ukrainie is one thing, since it's not a member country Putin mostly risks sanctions, not war with NATO. Attacking two NATO members is completely different.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 жыл бұрын
I can see NATO only responding in the actual gap, though, to avoid escalation because of fear of a world war.
@550077
@550077 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Nichan The only scenario in which this is possible is when a world war is already happening. Thus avoiding escalation is meaningless.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 жыл бұрын
@@550077 Not true. War does not automatically mean total war. Even if all NATO countries were at war with Russia, that would not mean they'd have to fight big battles: They could make peace after Russia was out of Suwałki gap (like how the 1991 Gulf War ended when Iraq was out of Kuwait). I feel pretty sure that both sides would want to avoid using nuclear weapons at least until the war entered a more central place to one of the nuclear powers, and, even then, they would probably try to limit their use of nuclear weapons. Hot wars entail high levels of mutual suspicion, even more than cold wars. Mutual suspicion tends to lead conflicts to escalate more and more over time if not controlled, so I'm not certain our leaders would SUCCEED at minimizing a war betwen such powers, but I can hardly believe they wouldn't try when countries with such huge nuclear arsenals are involved. Biden isn't going to immediately nuke all major Russian cities just beause Russian troops took over a road in the Baltic.
@550077
@550077 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Nichan I can’t recall of any situation when a NATO country ceded some of its territory to a foreign country. Maybe it has happened and I just don’t know about it.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 жыл бұрын
@@550077 That's irrelevant. Perhaps you misread my reply. I never suggested NATO would let Russia hold on to the Suwałki gap.
@txrx1060
@txrx1060 2 жыл бұрын
Potential war in europe. TLDR Europe videos: 📈📈📈
@msms7434
@msms7434 2 жыл бұрын
Be afraid! Fear fear fear!
@piotrwojdelko1150
@piotrwojdelko1150 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Suwalki Gap you spell it nice and well explained problem .As a child I remember Suwalki very backward town called the end of the world .Before 1989 I remember barbed wire fences plenty of soldiers ending roads and railways 'kind of mutual friendship between USSR and Poland ' . You even couldn't buy a car my parents travel far to get anything .Suddenly I discovered that you can see something on the other side of the border .Now they are building motorways and railways connecting with Finland and there is huge traffic .I remember also that after the WW2 Russians wanted to hand out Kalingrad Oblast to Lithuania but Lithuania refused because they were afraid of being minority in their own country. I want to mention that Russians colonised that region perfectly what Germans left behind with electrified towns .I was told that people saw quite exotic views of Russians heading with camels .They settled down not understanding how to use certain equipment ..
@kosa9662
@kosa9662 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: in area around Suwałki there is huge deposit of iron, titan and rare minerals ore. During WW2 Germans compasses in plains were malfunctioning when were flying abouve these deposit. Also in region which border WhiteRus there are deposits of uraniun.
@Toonhai
@Toonhai 2 жыл бұрын
These resources don't have economic sense to mine. Otherwise it would already been exploated.
@adamradziwill
@adamradziwill 2 жыл бұрын
EDIT FOR YOU : BELARUS
@kosa9662
@kosa9662 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamradziwill Belarus means White Rus. At the same time in White Rus there is historic region called Black Rus
@addymant
@addymant 2 жыл бұрын
Kaliningrad is _not_ a semi-enclave. A semi-enclave borders only one nation. The term you're looking for is _exclave,_ a region not attached to the bulk of a country's territory.
@filipkogut8533
@filipkogut8533 2 жыл бұрын
Idk who writes scripts for tldr, but it has lots of such annoying minor mistakes.
@klyplays
@klyplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipkogut8533 I think they do it intentionally as to increase comments and outrage for more views.
@daa3930
@daa3930 2 жыл бұрын
5:40 Why you are highlighting EU countries, when you are talking about Nato and using Nato emblem on the map? For instance Finland and Sweden are not Nato members while UK, Norway and Iceland are. Highlighting the wrong countries makes the map REALLY misleading.
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many elementary errors in this video, it is hard to imagine TLDR know anything at all about the subject.
@iamaloafofbread8926
@iamaloafofbread8926 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavlovsdog2551 They are biased
@EricZucchini
@EricZucchini 2 жыл бұрын
5:18 what? How is it ambiguous? How would anyone annex a line without annexing any territory? Would they be taking it over with one-dimensional tanks and one-dimensional soldiers with no area?
@szpoti
@szpoti 2 жыл бұрын
I found it hilarious too.
@juanvelasco6028
@juanvelasco6028 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@pankajahuja9792
@pankajahuja9792 Жыл бұрын
that line is 65 km wide
@Pawel274
@Pawel274 Жыл бұрын
@@pankajahuja9792 65 km wide, i.e. the distance between Kaliningrad and Belarus. They talk about the seizure of the border line, and there is no such thing. You have a border between countries and the territory of Poland is on one side and Lithuania is on the other. There is no magic territory between these two nations that Russia could hijack without attacking them simultaneously.
@emib6599
@emib6599 2 жыл бұрын
For what every information said about Kaliningrad, we can say is also the weakest point of Russia, it has the less support towards Putin, the population tends to not consider the neighbours enemies and it has the biggest concentration of russian with passports.
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
There has even been an independence movement, which has had varying degrees of support over the years.
@RoScFan
@RoScFan 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavlovsdog2551 I do hope Kaliningrad becomes independent. What Stalin did to East Prussia was disgusting genocide. A minimum of historical correction would be for Kaliningrad to become independent.
@gabrielbulle819
@gabrielbulle819 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this from Latvia right now and not pleased to hear this. :D
@aleksisvargers7494
@aleksisvargers7494 2 жыл бұрын
Visi tēlo gangsterus līdz divdūjiņas gaisā skrien ;)
@copacelu93
@copacelu93 2 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna make more videos on the Ukraine situation, any chance you can talk about the Budapest Memorandom? The deal made between Ukraine and USA, Russia + the UK, in which Ukraine would remove it's nuclear weapons, on the condition that the other countries respect its borders and will protect it in the event of an attack? I don't see manY people talking about this and I think it's a huge subject.
@jakesmall8875
@jakesmall8875 2 жыл бұрын
Because that means the u.s and uk have to declare war on Russia
@Yara-ox5my
@Yara-ox5my 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting fact is that at that time Ukraine had the third largest nuclear arsenal of weapons. but the West did not consider Ukraine an adequate country and forced it to give up all its weapons to Russia in exchange for financial assistance and guarantees of territorial integrity
@greutera
@greutera 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Russia acknowledged Ukraine as an independent state and Ukraine did give up their nuclear weapons.
@matikramer9648
@matikramer9648 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see it too
@brianbrecknock9625
@brianbrecknock9625 2 жыл бұрын
I would, really like to see a video on this topic,,as I feel Ukraine has been set up to fight a proxy war by NATO
@wolski7447
@wolski7447 2 жыл бұрын
The argument that the Suwałki line is one dimensional so it technicaly would be an incursion is so stupid. Unless Russia or Belarus would use one dimensional troops it still would be a incursion of foreign troops in two NATO members' territory.
@Bambim8
@Bambim8 2 жыл бұрын
one dimensional troops XD
@karolpalion2883
@karolpalion2883 2 жыл бұрын
Only the northern half of East Prussia was annexed by the Russian SFSR. The southern part is now Poland's Warmia-Masuria region. Also, how do you fit 2M people into a line with no area?
@pontiuspilates
@pontiuspilates 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Northern part, the Memelland is now Lithuania.
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
TLDR don't actually know what the Suwalki Gap is...
@MichaelScottRamming
@MichaelScottRamming 2 жыл бұрын
GIS buffer around the polyline???
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@pontiuspilates Well it was Lithuania before WW2 as well. They lost it, and then got it back during the cause of the war
@TheZett
@TheZett 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carewolf And it was Prussia before WW1, Luthiania only owned it after WW1 (and once again after WW2).
@UtamagUta
@UtamagUta 2 жыл бұрын
For the record, Lithuania never had any interest in bringing Trojan horse in, aka the Kaliningrad. Neither did during soviet times.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
Lithuania was once asked if it wanted to annex it but refused
@ararune3734
@ararune3734 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 Because they would then be a minority in their own country and that doesn't seem like a particularly good idea.
@jameswelsh1019
@jameswelsh1019 2 жыл бұрын
Your map of NATO was actually a map of the EU, the UK and Norway are in NATO but not the EU, and Ireland, Sweden and Finland are not in NATO but are in the EU.
@impact0r
@impact0r 2 жыл бұрын
TLDR incompetent?! No! That cannot be!!!
@mangachu3626
@mangachu3626 2 жыл бұрын
It's completely ludicrous to suggest that Russia would attack two European Union and NATO countries.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, this is quite a poor video on the subject, still it would be entertaining if Russia tried because I think the Russian people need a major wake-up call when it comes to Putin and Russia's power in the world which in today's world boil down to the economy, the bigger that is, the more power you've got in the country in question chooses to divert resources to arms and high-tech weapons, basically, Russia wouldn't stand a chance in that game unless it uses nukes but then both sides lose and Russia likely more so.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul1979uk2000 the entirety of the western world needs a "major wake-up".
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 True, especially when it comes to countries like Russia and China which are power hungry, threatening other countries and using hardline tactics, it's high time the countries that can put their foot down on this. Also, maybe a democracy club could be formed where those countries get a lot more benefits on economics, politics and stability.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul1979uk2000 No that's not what I'm saying, I'm not really that fond of going to war. What I meant is that the western people need a "major wake-up" and reform the corrupt pseudo-democracies they live under.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 I agree, democracy is only as good as the people voting or not voting and in western countries, they do a poor job at that but that's not the system's fault, that's the people's fault, politics is a reflection of the people, unless the people change, why should governments?
@lukask2489
@lukask2489 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds more like scare mongering than anything else to be fair.
@tinaforbes1059
@tinaforbes1059 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. President Putin is not as stupid as eu's politicians . All he's got to do is switch off the Gas supply into the eu . That will end the eurocrat's net zero Bullshits.
@tinaforbes1059
@tinaforbes1059 2 жыл бұрын
@R Yes, I'm sure you will. At the same time calling yourself the green nutters champion. How very eu . Hypocrites lot .
@MeidoInHebun
@MeidoInHebun 2 жыл бұрын
@R If you want to pay 5x times as much for gas, go ahead lol.
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinaforbes1059 and cripple one if the main sources of Cash for already struggling Russian economy. What a great idea. I wonder why did Putin shut that idea down when Lukashenko wanted to do it😉
@SMoore-vj7bt
@SMoore-vj7bt Жыл бұрын
Now we have the justification as Lithuania has violated the free passage agreement for Russian supplies.
@nostromo2244
@nostromo2244 2 жыл бұрын
You need to fix your graphics. At 5.41 you show a map of "NATO", but it is actually an EU map, not a NATO one. Because the UK and Norway are shown as not being in NATO, whereas Sweden and Finland are shown as being in NATO, even though they aren't.
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
This entire video is appallingly inaccurate, beyond redemption...
@MeidoInHebun
@MeidoInHebun 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a mistake if it's done to mislead on purpose.
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody realizes that the Baltic states have resisted Russia (and Germany at the same time) before and with much more powerful allies, can do it again.
@akalion213
@akalion213 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Lithuania feeling kinda sus right now
@icorcka76
@icorcka76 2 жыл бұрын
At least it's better than living in Ukrainian east close to Russian border
@akalion213
@akalion213 2 жыл бұрын
@@icorcka76 Well obviously lol
@enriquedp9356
@enriquedp9356 2 жыл бұрын
@@icorcka76 would say even with potential war, belarus is in a much worst state and living there must be horrible.
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess we are all in the same boat 🇵🇱🤝🇱🇹
@icorcka76
@icorcka76 2 жыл бұрын
@@enriquedp9356 that's true, Belarus and Russia are in worse situation because possibility of war is at minimum at this exact moment, but possibility of economic collapse of this two guys is high
@8ig0r86
@8ig0r86 2 жыл бұрын
Poland remembering the Polish Corridor back in 1939: "Hey, I've seen this one! It's a classic!"
@eisbergsyndrom5010
@eisbergsyndrom5010 2 жыл бұрын
Russia: I hate being disconected from Kaliningrad. Germany: First time?
@sisiamigomio
@sisiamigomio 2 жыл бұрын
3 weeks ago.... so far back
@TheOneWhoMightBe
@TheOneWhoMightBe 2 жыл бұрын
The Suwalki Gap might have an area of zero, but a tank sitting on top of it does not.
@Kafei01
@Kafei01 2 жыл бұрын
Solution : take back Königsberg and restore East Prussia as intendependant state.
@geraldmeehan8942
@geraldmeehan8942 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is the population is 98% Russian today although I bet a great number of them would like to be out from under Putin's thumb
@holgerlinke98
@holgerlinke98 2 жыл бұрын
poland wouldn't give up it's 2/3 of east prussia, also prussia wouldn't be prussia if inhabited by poles and russians. it might even be more viable to transfer the area back to germany. :D
@XxthetanklordxX
@XxthetanklordxX 2 жыл бұрын
No, lmao. There are no germans there anymore, and germans in the area was a problem in the past.
@mrmosaic7996
@mrmosaic7996 2 жыл бұрын
As a Russian, totally would move to Kaliningrad if it were an independent state. Since it would be the best of two worlds: 1. Your country joins EU eventually 2. You're not a foreigner Sadly, Belarus is nowhere close to joining the EU and Ukraine is plain hostile to Russians and considers you an alien.
@Kafei01
@Kafei01 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone :calm down this was not serious.
@MrMaxStepanov
@MrMaxStepanov 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you mean when you say 'Suwalki visa waiver'? There are trains running across Lithuania you can use to go to/from Kaliningrad without visa, but if you drive from mainland Russia to Kaliningrad -- visa is still required.
@george.rendiuc
@george.rendiuc 2 жыл бұрын
Since 2016 the bilateral agreement for visa free local border traffic between the Kaliningrad region and EU has been suspended. So russians in the region actually need visas to travel through the neighbouring EU countries.
@deusgiff
@deusgiff 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 as a person who is from Lithuania and, I believe, has some knowledge about the situation in Kaliningrad, I think the way you put it that Kaliningrad was technically administrated by Lithuania is not true. We did not have our hands into any of that. The only time we got closer to Kaliningrad was when Khrushchev offered our communist leadership to include Kaliningrad region into the Lithuanian SSR which it refused. Correct me if am wrong here but I am truly hearing that for the first time.
@Poopdahoop
@Poopdahoop 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always baffled by analyses of Russia vs NATO states like this, it's as if in these last 30 or so years we've all forgotten what a war between NATO and Russia would really mean. These are two nuclear powers (USA, UK, and France on one side, Russia on the other). In any of these scenarios there is only one outcome: total nuclear anhelation of both sides. How have we forgotten that all these countries still have nukes pointed at eachother? How is it that no one EVER takes this into account when discussing this stuff? While I'm sure it's nice indulging in imagining we're still living in a pre-nuclear WW2 style strategy world, you have to do some real geopolitical gymnastics to wish away the role that nuclear weapons play in the relations between these countries.
@philipkoene5345
@philipkoene5345 2 жыл бұрын
I think with the concept of "assured mutual destruction", everyone assumes that a war would be conventional and not nuclear. However, I could imagine at least Russia could do a hail-mary nuclear attack, once it is clear that a conventional war is lost.
@zbigniewp1810
@zbigniewp1810 2 жыл бұрын
Except it doesn't mean MAD anymore. At least not when only a small portion of NATO border is attacked.
@nadasabbagh6273
@nadasabbagh6273 2 жыл бұрын
I try to imagine what it would look like if Russia or the US were to use nuclear weapons. The aggressor would annihilate but would there be a nuclear retaliation. I would think so but if that happens, we can say goodbye to...life...
@Bambim8
@Bambim8 2 жыл бұрын
"In any of these scenarios there is only one outcome". No? There can be a war without nukes.
@Matrix27594
@Matrix27594 2 жыл бұрын
They don't have to use nukes. A conflict could be limited
@stevejohnson3357
@stevejohnson3357 2 жыл бұрын
All we can hope for at this point is steady hands and sober minds. But considering the number of moving parts and divergent interests involved in the current political climate, that is a hard thing to ensure.
@fukuokaball
@fukuokaball 2 жыл бұрын
Stay Strong Ukraine & EU! 🇰🇷💖🇺🇦🇪🇺
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, hypersonic doesnt mean they are superfast but that they have very good maneuverbility at supersonic speeds.
@emanuelcozmanciuc8561
@emanuelcozmanciuc8561 2 жыл бұрын
it also means that they are superfast (mach 5 or about twice as fast as what is the norm today)
@mab9614
@mab9614 2 жыл бұрын
Whether it’s bluffing or not, I still remember what happened in 2014. For those who grew up in the late 2000s and early 2010s, you might be familiar with this quote: “Victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice Mason. We, Russians, know this better than anyone.”
@nathanhale4328
@nathanhale4328 2 жыл бұрын
RIP
@mab9614
@mab9614 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanhale4328 “Have faith! Comrade.”
@YossiSirote
@YossiSirote 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving a new view I did not know.
@Abcflc
@Abcflc 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Kaliningrad was offered (informally) back to Germany in 1990 but the government said no because unifying the West and East was the priority.
@choonbox
@choonbox 2 жыл бұрын
You're laughing. Königsberg fell to the Russians *and you're laughing!"*
@UNKN0WN_1
@UNKN0WN_1 2 жыл бұрын
Attack on Suwałki Gap, would ment an open war with Poland, and technically NATO, since Allied forces are stationed there. It would escalate beyond reasonable, quickly for Russia.
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the Fulda gap, the Suwalki gap is the newest gap on the block
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 2 жыл бұрын
the Suwalki region was already depopulated by the soviets few months after WWII in the Augustów roundup (Obława augustowska)
@Pyriold
@Pyriold 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that putin would risk triggering a whole NATO response by violating the border of either poland or lithuania, both NATO allies. And while the gap may have zero width, troops can not live on zero width. They have to violate borders of one or the other country.
@andrewcrus
@andrewcrus 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a new series of fantasy arrived in time. I propose ideas for the next series - "Wake up the Yellowstone supervolcano is Putin's real goal?"
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned until next episode, where we discuss Lukashenko's real plans to become supreme leader of Denmark!
@andrewcrus
@andrewcrus 2 жыл бұрын
@@outerspace7391 How Putin staged a genocide of dinosaurs, herding them into gulags in Russia and processing them into oil and gas.
@007furious
@007furious 2 жыл бұрын
lol...right. These people are delusional.
@VforArt
@VforArt 2 жыл бұрын
heh, where i heard of that before? 1.anschluss of Belarus 2.sudetenland in donbass 3.exteritorial highway through foregin territory
@nickpn23
@nickpn23 2 жыл бұрын
Suwalki, Augustow, Alytus: how many times have nation states flowed across this land? And the ethnic mix - the german poet Johannes Bobrowski writes of the people caught between the mighty states, whatever their origins.
@patangaha
@patangaha 2 жыл бұрын
Letting USSR keep Königsberg was a mistake
@Gigacat2137
@Gigacat2137 2 жыл бұрын
That area is guarded by both Lithuanian and Polish militaries, taking it would trigger a war.
@nelyrions1838
@nelyrions1838 2 жыл бұрын
Having Russia as a neighbour is just pure headache at this point. We've had peace and stability in the region for many years and then Putin comes into power and sh*t just hits the fan on a constant setting. NATO and EU's reluctance to secure its interest and their weak state of being unable to unify a response in a reasonable time leaves everyone vulnerable to a dictator that can order 100.000 troops to a border in matter of a day.
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no matter how much Russian trolls try to tell "it's all Nato" it were their own actions that pushed my country into NATO. Them trying to pretend like they did nothing wrong is really sick. Their mentality is basically "so what that our economy is collapsing we have Crimea and it's 100% not the fault of our ruling oligarchs". Thet are stuck in their dream of soviet empire
@ccouch713
@ccouch713 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszzalewski4541 This! It's the same with Sweden, Russia is flying in our airspace repeatedly and then play the victim when our politicians start talking about joining Nato...
@2772giggs
@2772giggs 2 жыл бұрын
USA interference around the world is the worst, look at how many poeple died more than 10 million from Clinton to Trump.
@Cptnbond
@Cptnbond 2 жыл бұрын
@@2772giggs All superpowers and historical colonial empires have blood on their hands, but that is a distraction and does not justify current Kremlin behavior in any way.
@Doochos
@Doochos 2 жыл бұрын
@@2772giggs nice whataboutism
@augustus331
@augustus331 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Let the Russians try. They'll quickly find out just how strong the Polish and Baltic militaries have become. Oh and there's NATO.
@mrp1326
@mrp1326 2 жыл бұрын
There are surely not "2 million Poles in the area" - it is almost combined population of both nearest voivodeships. It is more like 200k people in Suwalszczyzna region. And it is not a "gap" to be closed, but territories of two independent countries, so I don't get the whole speculation. It is rather unnecessary.
@joas3324
@joas3324 2 жыл бұрын
Dokladnie...Bredzi jakies farmazony kolejny zachodniak ignorant
@user-yx5pd7yi8o
@user-yx5pd7yi8o 2 жыл бұрын
One little mistake. You called it Kaliningrad instead of Königsberg.
@menmikimen
@menmikimen 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it's Królewiec
@valdasnetavo8746
@valdasnetavo8746 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's Karaliaučius.
@redacted7060
@redacted7060 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's not Konigsberg anymore
@marmac83
@marmac83 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you lose a world war.
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
If you are a German, I don't care if you pretend in your head that Kaliningrad is Konigsberg. But when you arrive, you will be met with a Russian border guard.
@AmazinglyAwkward
@AmazinglyAwkward 2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says “suwalki GAP!”
@KhaalixD
@KhaalixD 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@robertmifkovic6325
@robertmifkovic6325 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Belarus would really stand next to Russia in case of war. What is the domestic support for Lukashenko right now? One thing is what politicians say, the other if people and the army are willing to fight for it. The protests were quite huge and I can imagine this conflict with the West could be the last nail in the coffin of Lukashenko.
@UtamagUta
@UtamagUta 2 жыл бұрын
because he doesn't care what his people want. Otherwise he would've stopped being a "president" since 2006. We, neghbors, call him a cockroach - will survive anything
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko made an interesting speech a few days ago where he made it clear Belarus would only support Russia in war if the territory of the Russian Federation is directly attacked.
@robertmifkovic6325
@robertmifkovic6325 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavlovsdog2551 and you trust his promises 🤣
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
Depends where you ask. Belarus has a west/east divide similar to Ukraine, where most people in the east are Russian speakers who want to remain close to Russia
@aurris
@aurris 2 жыл бұрын
Suvalkija - is Lithuanian cultural region (for polish is Suwalki ). This corridor is not called because of Suwalki town in Poland
@brygadasfm
@brygadasfm 2 жыл бұрын
I love Lithuania but dude... you're wrong. It's just called Suwałki Gap because of the town of Suwałki and this is why it's spelled in Polish, not in Lithuanian
@andw2638
@andw2638 2 жыл бұрын
There are no existing direct roads or rail lines along the Suwalki gap, which is a forested or swampy area, so an invasion of this area would entail building these while also dealing with the inevitable military response. Belarus is landlocked and its maritime traffic passes through Lithuania to or from Klaipeda or Kaliningrad. If Belarus had considered there was a need for a more direct link to the sea they would probably have made requests to Lithuania, Poland and Russia through the normal diplomatic channels, and could have reasonably argued that there would be benefits for those countries as well. Perhaps such discussions did take place but they would have been from a Belarusian economic standpoint as opposed to a Russian military and economic one. Possession of this corridor would also not increase Russia's territorial waters in the Baltic sea as these are based on Kaliningrad being part of the Russian Federation. However it would place their territorial waters at increased risk of harrassment from NATO forces.
@ngauruhoezodiac3143
@ngauruhoezodiac3143 2 жыл бұрын
It is really annoying when travelling Via Baltica to have to make a detour via Byalystok.
@tienshan9819
@tienshan9819 2 жыл бұрын
I think NATO would need to be significantly more internally divided than it is at present for this to work.
@theSultanofSquares
@theSultanofSquares 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who's a bit confused about the minimizing of the Suwalki Gap to a line with "an area of zero"? That's just the border between Poland and Lithuania. If Russia attacked to take the Suwalki Gap, they would be taking enough of the area (yes, with area of more than zero) to create a traversable corridor. Even if they took an area only large enough for a 2 lane road, they would still necessarily take some amount of the sovereign territory of Poland/Lithuania/both. I feel like it is really intellectually dishonest to say that is zero. And am I alone in thinking that this would ABSOLUTELY trigger a NATO response? Regardless of if a NATO defense of the Suwalki Gap would be a success, this would absolutely be a an attack on NATO members Poland and Lithuania. Not responding to such an attack would basically totally sour relations within NATO. This sounds very suspect to me. A VERY strange way to frame the potential harm in such an invasion. If this is the new logic, we may as well just say that Russia isn't trying to invade Donbas, but just taking an infinitely many lines of zero area chopping up the region - ergo, no unlawful stealing of Ukrainian territory. Bam, easy out. I guess we can revise the rules of geometry and logic.
@aightm8
@aightm8 2 жыл бұрын
It's an incredibly moronic point in the video. Forming a land bridge means annexing territory with an area greather than 0. Tanks are 3 metres wide
@nian60
@nian60 2 жыл бұрын
No you're right. I think whomever made this video didn't think things through and applied logic. Of course Russia would need to take actual land to take the Suwalki Gap.
@tukaes6651
@tukaes6651 2 жыл бұрын
The author of that mixed Kaliningrad visa with Suwałki. The inhabitants of Kaliningrad Oblast has no any special rights to cross border between Poland and Lithuania.
@Spacemongerr
@Spacemongerr 2 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous, Russia would never try to occupy a border between two NATO countries.
@moneyshark5510
@moneyshark5510 2 жыл бұрын
I love that people are pretending that old Russian and Belarussian equipment (with a few new models mostly for show) sponsored by economy the size of Spain can pose a threat to either EU or USA... But I guess the "Russia will conquer half of the EU" content made for people that believe in that stuff will always be clicked on...
@michaelm7158
@michaelm7158 2 жыл бұрын
Russia has undergone military reform, but this is part of the propaganda that Russia is so strong.
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
Putin intends to lead the Russian Army into battle riding a Siberian tiger -- without his shirt...
@anguswaterhouse9255
@anguswaterhouse9255 2 жыл бұрын
You're going to get a LOT of comments about the t-14 armata tank
@davidbenger2396
@davidbenger2396 2 жыл бұрын
This just sounds like paranoia. Russia's interests in Ukraine and Belorus are because many Russians consider these to Republics to be part of the Russian heartland and really should not have been allowed to become independant. The Suwalki gap is certainly not important enough for Russia to start a war over.
@bgthereformer
@bgthereformer 2 жыл бұрын
Why in ur map at 5:46 have u excluded the UK and Norway from NATO member states? If this is an EU members map, why would u use this when talking about NATO member states.
@intrusivethoughtofthatonetime
@intrusivethoughtofthatonetime 2 жыл бұрын
7:42 somehow fortunately but not a 100% satellite state yet. Those 28 programs were 35 at first, involving unifying currency, judicial system, rerouting the country's internet through Russia, etc, but in fact only a few programs are a real thing, the rest of them are just "an agreement to agree somewhere in the future". In fact, there were talks to cancel roaming between Belarus and Russia for years but they failed to do even this over and over again.
@naczelnyrabin7011
@naczelnyrabin7011 2 жыл бұрын
I do not really understand what you mean by "closing Suwalki Gap" ... Putin would have to go for whole Poland or Lithuania because none of them would give him an inch of land like Ukraine did. Without using the nukes Putin most likely would loose conflict with Poland or Lithuania supported by NATO ... he couldn't take 200k city in Ukraine so every bigger city in Poland or Lithuania he would have to take with millions of soldiers which he do not have or raze them completely to the ground which is completely out of sense.
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 жыл бұрын
At least, from a UK perspective, the Gap has moved eastwards. In my day it was the Fulda Gap. But, again, that was when the frontier with Russia was the "Iron Curtain".
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
Mind the Gap.
@janhula2534
@janhula2534 2 жыл бұрын
Since end of WWII, USSR coexisted in peace w NATO for 45 yrs, had numerous opportunities to attack, nearly double population and pupetted whole central and eastern Europe. Todays Russia is in much weaker position while NATO gets stronger by enlargement into former USSR buffer states. Russia will get crippled if they do so.
@rogerpettersson7696
@rogerpettersson7696 2 жыл бұрын
Why would Russia be able to limit any navy to access the Baltic Sea (mentioned at 3.35)? More than it already can through Kaliningrad today?
@jonswift6173
@jonswift6173 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly very relevant
@elsebas1978
@elsebas1978 2 жыл бұрын
There are no 2million Poles in Suwalki. It is a small town with the population approximately 70 thousands.
@robertmifkovic6325
@robertmifkovic6325 2 жыл бұрын
in the region
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I m interested how exactly would "the little green men" look in Poland.
@duraluminiumalloy9248
@duraluminiumalloy9248 2 жыл бұрын
"Patriotic guards" that already are "training" in eastern forests in Slovakia. There is always enough traitors in population for RuSSia to pull this out.
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@duraluminiumalloy9248 what jibberish is this?
@j2174
@j2174 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't there US forces in Poland, Canadian and British and ?French? forces in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania?
@gordonspicer
@gordonspicer 9 ай бұрын
At last a full article to day's in The Guardian. It claims there are important Belarus & Wagner maneuvers being conducted now. It is very strange the threat has been known for years but there are, despite this, very few Nato and or Lithuanian troops to prevent such quick closure of the gap. Another valid question is IF gap closed how does NATO propose to reinforce its forces in the 3 Baltic countries safely & swiftly? Excellent well exlained video.
@robmiller1964
@robmiller1964 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am so pleased I live in New Zealand, a long way away from the Dictators of Europe; Putin and his sidekick Lukashenko! Why have these countries not modernized, democratized! I am so glad that Russia isn't our next door neighbor! Its sort of like having a bullyboy on your border, but with guns and tanks etc.
@torrokasparov2210
@torrokasparov2210 2 жыл бұрын
You are not only very far from Russia, your even further away from the facts regarding Russia.
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God your neighbors down there are all for democracy! Like Fiji and Australia, one that had a military coup a few years back and Australia which is basically a police state. Oh, that doesn't sound so democratic. Well that's okay, at least they are friendly towards New Zealand!
@robmiller1964
@robmiller1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@torrokasparov2210 Yes we are very blessed that we don't have a bully boy right on our door step! Thanks be to God! Amen!
@uranusneptun5239
@uranusneptun5239 2 жыл бұрын
It's so funny because Putin is justifying the Ukraine's invasions with it being historically Russia or the Soviet Union but if we are playing this game, the EU could invade Kaliningrad, because it used to be German...
@pavlovsdog2551
@pavlovsdog2551 2 жыл бұрын
Both Crimea and Kaliningrad have only achieved their Russian majority populations due to Stalin's genocides in the 1930s and 1940s. It is likely that Putin's illegitimate invasion of Crimea will bring Russian control of _both_ these territories into review at some future time...
@alm9322
@alm9322 2 жыл бұрын
Next September: Russia demands an exterritorial higway through Poland to have an access to Kaliningrad oblast.
@AshiRonin
@AshiRonin 2 жыл бұрын
God, not again
@andersbergstl1930
@andersbergstl1930 2 жыл бұрын
Takk!
@dee-jay45
@dee-jay45 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of military actions make geo-political sense. But they still rarely happen. Russia still hasn't invaded Ukraine and we've been talking about that possibility for the past 6 months.
@katekkllklllkkk9665
@katekkllklllkkk9665 Жыл бұрын
did not age well
@And-lj5gb
@And-lj5gb 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what this channel tries to suggest. Attempting to take the Suwałki Gap would only make sense for Russia if they ALREADY were at a full scale war with NATO (or at least planning to do so imminently). Otherwise it's just too much cost for so little gain.
@Spacemongerr
@Spacemongerr 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's making Russia out to be some crazy enemy NATO is in the middle of being invaded by. Silly and basically fear-stoking propaganda.
@gonnabefree
@gonnabefree 2 жыл бұрын
Great pronunciation of Suwałki btw
@MrPoljako
@MrPoljako 2 жыл бұрын
There is very popular proverb about Suwalki in Poland. When there is really cold, Poles use to say "It's fuc...ing cold as in Suwalki".
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been avoided if Germany pressed for the return of Königsberg during their unification agreement.
@SouthPeter98
@SouthPeter98 2 жыл бұрын
Germans were long gone from there, that would be a silly request which would have been laughed at
@h4xorzist
@h4xorzist 2 жыл бұрын
They did they pushed for most of the pre WW2 borders but east Prussia was part of Poland and the poles in turn were expelled from their own land too by Russia. To be honest, the EU should rearm and march units to Königsberg as that seems to be the language Putin speaks.
@XxthetanklordxX
@XxthetanklordxX 2 жыл бұрын
@@h4xorzist no they shouldn't. Germany doesn't want that region. Why would you want such a big Russian minority?
@kuravje484
@kuravje484 2 жыл бұрын
No way Russia would have left Kaliningrad. Even the video states it's the only warm-water port on the Baltics for them. If you know anything about Russian history, getting warm-water ports is the main goal of their entire geopolitics since the early 18th century.
@lindsaycole8409
@lindsaycole8409 2 жыл бұрын
@@kuravje484 True enough. Crimea gives complete control of Sevastopol, and guarantees access to Rostov-on-don which could be developed further as a port. It also explains their ambivalence to Climate change, with the potential for a benefit of the line of "warm water" ports moving north. Big obvious win there would be St Petersburg going permanently warm water, instead of the borderline status it has now.
@QuentinWatt
@QuentinWatt 2 жыл бұрын
Belarus has already tested their border with Poland using migrants. The response was increased military build up on the Polish and Lithuanian borders. If Russia poke and prod hard enough, they could almost find a reason to blame the EU and NATO for firing first rather than the other way around. It only takes one NATO nation to make a nervous mistake. Like Turkish forces have already done by firing at Russian forces near Syria. One day, with more context we’ll be able to find out if the migrant crisis was related to aggression or not.
@Bambim8
@Bambim8 2 жыл бұрын
"If Russia poke and prod hard enough, they could almost find a reason to blame the EU and NATO for firing first rather than the other way around." You're saying this as if the West would believe Russian propaganda. They don't, so why would this matter.
@QuentinWatt
@QuentinWatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bambim8 victim mentality. It’ll matter to the people who feel they were wronged first.
@tomchumko5536
@tomchumko5536 2 жыл бұрын
Putin probablycan’t ever go outside again
@Aircoookie
@Aircoookie 2 жыл бұрын
If Russia absolutely have to connect these landmasses (which they don't really due to the Visa waiver), I'd limit the width of the annexed land to that required to build a highway and rail line, and build bridges or tunnels for the connections between Poland and Lithuania. However, I believe and hope even that is unlikely as Russia may be more careful of annexing EU territory
@tomaskinoshta7589
@tomaskinoshta7589 Жыл бұрын
why, it appears everybody underestimated Russian economic and military power in Ukraine? The Baltics were former Soviet states and should have never joined NATO. NATO will not risk WW3 for the Baltics.
@filipevaz9328
@filipevaz9328 2 жыл бұрын
So summarising the video, Poland might get invaded again starting a WW. I guess some things never change...
@chepulis
@chepulis 2 жыл бұрын
Help. I'm in this picture and i don't like it.
@IrakliKavtaradzepsyche
@IrakliKavtaradzepsyche 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but aren't Crimean ports also not frozen during winter?
@ta144
@ta144 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@racoon652
@racoon652 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@krw1999
@krw1999 2 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when the EU realizes they should have left Germany at its ww1 boarders to curb Russia
@andw2638
@andw2638 2 жыл бұрын
I expect Poland and Lithuania would have vetoed it...
@krw1999
@krw1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@andw2638 personally I think Poland should have encompassed much of the Ukrainian and Belorussian lands instead like what was originally proposed by the Kaiser. And Lithuania and the rest of the Baltic nations would have made a much better unified nation. I kinda see pan slavism and for lack of a better term pan balticism as a better alternative for the west to curb future Russian ambitions then what we saw in our own world with many different nationalist and independence movements cropping up producing many nations in the east that are all more or less unstable or unprepared for war. Tbh this original comment was a joke but I genuinely do believe that the world would have been much more influenced by the concept of nationalism on a more (once again for lack of a better term) ethnic identity Basis if World War One would have ended differently. I’ve written a whole alternate history about it for fun lol
@timefliesaway999
@timefliesaway999 2 жыл бұрын
Petition to make wars a VR game, instead of playing in the real world
@ragerancher
@ragerancher 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate how quickly you turn these videos around but does anyone actually watch the videos before they go out? Some very obvious recording and presentation errors in pretty much every video.
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