Swan 88 under sail - first trials on Swan's first hybrid boat, the Swan 88 no1 Dreamcatcher

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Yachting World

Yachting World

Күн бұрын

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@dennisrobinson4588
@dennisrobinson4588 Ай бұрын
Looks to be a very well laid out boat, lots of space both for owner and crew. The top sides are wonderful but then it is a Swan! I have had the opportunity to helm a 1997 80 foot Swan and it was terrific to sail so easy. We usually had 6 or 7 on board but we ran it very comfortably with 3 at anytime and safely. Great long distance cruiser and comfortable. Cheers and thanks.
@ABMarine1
@ABMarine1 Ай бұрын
@yachting world need to mention the Torqeedo Hybrid/regen system is using a Hundested controllable pitch propeller! Great video.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
Sorry. The Torqeedo Hybrid/regen system is using a Hundested controllable pitch propeller! 👍
@MrTrapper28
@MrTrapper28 Ай бұрын
This yacht was in the Isles of Scillies this summer, part of cruising the Westcountry.
@someguy9440
@someguy9440 Ай бұрын
We all know who this was built for. It puts food on the table for the boat building business, so I'm happy for that. ... next video!
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 Ай бұрын
Beautiful boat
@Rodrifuuu
@Rodrifuuu Ай бұрын
Electric motors + generator is the future. Efficiency, regen, much lower emissions, and fewer mechanical parts to service.
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos Ай бұрын
Insanity. Measure the emissions, all of them, and it falls on its backside.
@Rodrifuuu
@Rodrifuuu Ай бұрын
@@BRMCaptChaos If you have solar panels, regen and enough battery, you probably don't even need to turn the generator on unless you are motoring instead of sailing (which is nonsensical if you buy a sailing yacht). Even if you do need to use the generator, the efficiency of a generator powering an electric motor is similar to a diesel engine (gasoline would be even lower). Take into account the need for salt water intake for cooling the diesel engine and your maintenance costs shoot up immensely. It's not that complicated. From your other comment it seems more like you have an issue with green energy than anything else. Maybe consume less fossil fuel industry propaganda.
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos Ай бұрын
@@Rodrifuuu I’m not laughing with you. This yacht has no solar, it would need more than two 200w on the back. Oceanvolt regen would not be sufficient or viable for a vessel of this size. It needs a genset. Tell me how much carbon is saved by producing batteries for this application? Just try me.
@MrBirgerB
@MrBirgerB Ай бұрын
The want is strong
@dutchflats
@dutchflats Ай бұрын
What's with the unfinished caulk job forward on the deck near the bow locker?
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
The boat had just launched and they were still finishing such details
@texmexbbq7085
@texmexbbq7085 Ай бұрын
I should have read further down lol - I noticed the same thing.
@andrew.lp.mcneill
@andrew.lp.mcneill Ай бұрын
Why does this seem small inside for an 88?
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 Ай бұрын
Wrobg very big
@velonico
@velonico Ай бұрын
Most privileged Humans on the Planet! Bless the Bow Boy!
@chrismcclary108
@chrismcclary108 Ай бұрын
Would love to know Tony, if you could choose one boat or cat, what it would be….
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
How much money are we assuming I'd need to win to make this choice?!
@sheilamorrison1954
@sheilamorrison1954 Ай бұрын
It's Toby :)
@metegokce697
@metegokce697 Ай бұрын
Is it water tight? Has it been designed with the safety having priority over comfort & luxury?
@robertduster8508
@robertduster8508 Ай бұрын
I loved Sean's since the 1970's they're always been fast and beautiful. But the caulking on the deck looked terrible. In this video. I know it is the first one. If this is a press release, it should be at it best and complete
@texmexbbq7085
@texmexbbq7085 Ай бұрын
Looks like someone did some sloppy caulking on the bow deck - 3 lines, one shorter than the other 2... that should be fixed before delivery to the customer. Unacceptable.
@antoinejo
@antoinejo Ай бұрын
I was just about to point that out at 0:32. Unacceptable is a euphemism...
@mufflejoy
@mufflejoy Ай бұрын
I have no share in this but my understanding is they are out on sea trials.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
As mentioned below the boat had just launched and they were still finishing such details - which is commonplace before a yacht is then delivered to its owner
@robertw.1499
@robertw.1499 Ай бұрын
Obviously not! It‘s just come out of the shed and not finished yet 😂😂😂
@benjaminfaure6008
@benjaminfaure6008 Ай бұрын
What’s unacceptable and frankly a bit boring is the armchair quarterback naturally assuming that a builder of Swan’s pedigree would hand out a boat with those details as is, and subsequently judging the brand’s work « unacceptable ». Thanks for the eagle eyed comments captain obvious.
@pootsman6722
@pootsman6722 Ай бұрын
Nice. And how much pocket money do i need to save for that Toby?
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
At least a year's worth!
@pootsman6722
@pootsman6722 Ай бұрын
@@yachtingworld 😄
@majik-k8j
@majik-k8j Ай бұрын
Its sailing Toby but not as I know it.
@ColinHarvey78
@ColinHarvey78 Ай бұрын
Not sure Nautor will appreciate the shot of their foredeck upto 1:12 with that bodged caulking on their new Swan 88…
@toggtlas7099
@toggtlas7099 Ай бұрын
That has to be one of the smallest owners suite in the class. Also the completely unprotected helm stations are so off-putting. It's like it's designated to be a dock queen...
@MacArthurEmily
@MacArthurEmily Ай бұрын
10820 Rodger Land
@mattdouglas5570
@mattdouglas5570 Ай бұрын
Mate
@currare3171
@currare3171 Ай бұрын
Talking about silence, I think this was the noisiest test you ever did
@davearmstrong2296
@davearmstrong2296 Ай бұрын
I think the Oyster 885SII is a better design.
@maxhood5999
@maxhood5999 Ай бұрын
Agree with you
@gibbousmoon35
@gibbousmoon35 Ай бұрын
I was thinking similarly. Nice boat for casual cruising and nice days out with lots of people on deck, but for world cruising I think I'd go for something more like an Oyster.
@jamiemorgan4146
@jamiemorgan4146 Ай бұрын
Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫. The dodgy history of Oyster since it’s inception and its manufacturing should make anyone go with Swan The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion ( for comfort), but I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked .
@jwxlr
@jwxlr Ай бұрын
@@jamiemorgan4146 Maybe they are thinking about Oysters like S/Y POLINA STAR III🤔😉
@bingbang3318
@bingbang3318 8 күн бұрын
Yes prefer the Oyster
@LanceBrown-jz8hn
@LanceBrown-jz8hn Ай бұрын
Boats are on water, water is H2o. Please, people, use your brains. Hydrogen is the future.
@michaelridler5119
@michaelridler5119 Ай бұрын
Do you know how much energy it takes to electrolyse H2 and how difficult it is to store and handle? It's much more efficient to put the power straight into batteries. Also it's more complexity with all the high pressure storage tanks and the fuel cells not to mention the dangers of having high pressure H2 on a boat. H2 is also very expensive, it doesn't make any sense at all.
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos Ай бұрын
Yes, I can calculate the amounts needed for H2. It’s not rocket science, it is sustainable. Batteries are not the way forward.
@michaelridler5119
@michaelridler5119 Ай бұрын
@@BRMCaptChaos Just because you can calculate how much H2 you’ll need to make doesn’t make it sustainable. If you can calculate that you can calculate that producing the H2 from water around the boat as the o/p suggests requires electricity which I’m assuming comes from solar/wind/in water generator. Electrolysers are about 60% efficiency, then the H2 has to be compressed using more energy so you’ve already lost about 50% of the electricity generated. Then the H2 goes into a fuel cell to make electricity again which, again, isn’t very efficient, then into a battery (you still need a battery albeit a smaller one) then to a motor. Long story short about 30% of the electricity you originally generated goes to power the motor. If batteries are used about 90% of the power generated goes to power the motor. If H2 is bought from the shore it is incredibly expensive and not easily obtainable, if H2 is burnt in an ICE then again the energy loses are likely worse than a fuel cell. It’s not rocket science but H2 is an idiotic idea to power any kind of transportation and I wouldn’t really like to be on a boat with tanks of a highly compressed, highly flammable gas that burns with an invisible flame.
@jamiemorgan4146
@jamiemorgan4146 Ай бұрын
My opinion on the people that suggest buying an Oyster. Seriously ?????? 😳😳😳😳🙄🙄🙄🙄 You can’t compare the quality, performance, reputation and longevity of Swan with Oyster ! I would never trust my life to an Oyster built boat!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴😫😫😫😫😫. The dodgy history of Oyster since its inception, tells you how the company’s run. It’s manufacturing practices alone, should make anyone go with Swan The only thing that I’ll give to you, is the Oysters interior design. Yes it’s nicer and laid out better in my opinion ( for comfort) where as a Swan, is built for sheer performance. I’d buy the Swan and have Swan design the interior the wayI liked . Comparing a Swan to an Oyster, is like comparing a Hyundai Genesis to a Mercedes AMG .
@ColinHarvey78
@ColinHarvey78 Ай бұрын
A lot of really bad background noise throughout this video - I’m surprised it’s as bad as it is considering the channel and expected levels of production
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that @ColinHarvey78 - perhaps you expect to much of our 'levels of production'! A lot of the time I am reporting on yachts for the magazine and film these tours if and when possible. In this case, first seatrials of the 88 from the yard with 16 other people aboard including media and engineers. The choice is whether to show you any of the boat with video in the time I have - or not to. But I cannot control all the background noise! And your other point about caulking I have already addressed - but that is completely normal for a new yacht to have finishing jobs like this being done prior to handover. Some poeple will find it interesting to see yachts not always in full glamour 'boat show' mode
@FighterFred
@FighterFred Ай бұрын
Dangerous boom arrangement in tough weather that can kill people. No protection for the helmsman. So it's built for luxury nice weather sailing in the Med or with a professional crew and then not really a cruiser. The hybrid system is great as there is no diesel engine that can break down. So it's up to the generator functioning. Hopefully the entrance doors are water tight and don't open when the boat heels. The escape hatch for the master cabin is good so the owner cannot be trapped as in Italy.
@ceirwan
@ceirwan Ай бұрын
Its an 88 foot yacht! Of course you need competent people onboard to sail it.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 Ай бұрын
Wrobg
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos Ай бұрын
Phenomenally noisy for a quiet yacht. Greenwashed into hypocritical oblivion. Deck sweeping jib with guardrails makes my loose threads itch. It’s a Swan, I can’t believe they could build this.
@pred7949
@pred7949 Ай бұрын
Toby your camera has a directional mic, so if you're speaking while youre pointing away from yourself, filming how they raise the mainsail and there is a massive winch making lots of noise, we dont hear anything youre saying bro
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld Ай бұрын
Actually I use a lapel mic - but there was A LOT of noise going on that day with so many aboard
@pred7949
@pred7949 Ай бұрын
@@yachtingworld actually, you would benefit immensely by giving a internship opportunity to a Gen Z film/journalism student who could help you catch up. Adapt or die and youve been unchanged (not for the better) for years now.
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