Swapping a Ford Windsor 4.6 with a Romeo 4.6 - YES, It Can Be Done!!!! - Differences

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Chad Williams

Chad Williams

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In this video, I show you that it is possible to swap a Windsor 4.6 with a Romeo 4.6 in this Ford F-150. I run through the list of parts I swapped, new parts I put on, and may other things that will help you with your swap. Enjoy!
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@Jayroespinal
@Jayroespinal 5 жыл бұрын
This is epic! you only see people on KZbin talking about swaps after the fact and never going over details like this in detail, I greatly appreciate it none the less.
@traviskeffer9922
@traviskeffer9922 5 жыл бұрын
Great job man. But you would think with the old engine going bad due to oiling issues. You would’ve put a new oil pump on that used engine! So much easier to do with the motor being pulled.
@thiniceking12
@thiniceking12 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing.
@HillBillyBrown
@HillBillyBrown Жыл бұрын
It’s a Windsor problem, doesn’t really happen on Romeo engines.
@garyjones7044
@garyjones7044 5 жыл бұрын
Best thing about pulling your own motor is you know what it came out of
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Seeing it is so easy greatly expands the pool of donor engines.
@starrwoman1
@starrwoman1 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, I learned a great deal of information on the Windsor and Romeo engines. You made me a subscriber. :-)
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!! I am glad I could help!!!!
@owencooper6229
@owencooper6229 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll Which timing cover gasket do I use if I'm swapping the timing cover from the Windsor to the Romeo? They appear to be different
@MrMechanicandy
@MrMechanicandy Жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll did anyone answer this question ?
@walterbright1396
@walterbright1396 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this informative video. I am considering a rehab of a 2003 f150 and was looking at the 4.6L 2v and was seeing numerous variations on it that seemed to lock you in to specific set ups. It’s good to know there is some interchangeability between 4.6s
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 3 жыл бұрын
Glad this was able to help! It took quite a bit of research and validating and trust to take this on, but glad it was able to happen. Thanks for watching!
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend with a 2005 F150 4x4. His truck came with the Romeo engine in it, which hydrolocked due to a defective intake manifold gasket (rod #1 ventilated the block), and we replaced it with another Romeo engine sourced from a 2006 Grand Marquis. The only thing we had to do was swap the timing cover.
@Yoomamma
@Yoomamma Жыл бұрын
Please excuse me… I am trying to find an engine for my 2002 quad cab… 4.6. What’s a Romeo engine? ?
@mariapeluffo6986
@mariapeluffo6986 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chad, I have a question; I have a 2000 Lincoln Town Car which did not have PI heads and I am planning of changing the heads with PI heads; my question is: Do I have to degree the cams because I hear some people saying that and some people saying no? I see you have a lot of experience with this engine; also, if I change the heads the timing is different or the same. Thank you for any help. Jose
@Smashachu
@Smashachu 2 жыл бұрын
Glad i watched this.. I thought i had a windsor engine, i have a romeo and that saves me a billion dollars.
@davelevison7252
@davelevison7252 Жыл бұрын
so it sounds like you can go from a windsor to a romeo but not a romeo to a windsor because of the knock sensors. My truck has a romeo in it and I was hoping to go to a windsor because in my case they are more readily available but with what you told me I might go after a motor from a crown vic or explorer, the aluminum block is also a plus. Does anyone know if the windsors were pretty much the same or were there some quite a bit of differences because I know there were like six different ones.
@bobbywilliams2807
@bobbywilliams2807 3 жыл бұрын
Done this swap before better check your crank sensor reluctor ring tooth count!
@younggun3678
@younggun3678 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a Romeo 4.6 engine out of a 2008 crown Vic police interceptor with a cast iron block and put it in my 1997 4.6 Windsor F150 Lariat 5 speed 4x4 which has the cast iron block and the only things I had to change were the knock sensor and find a 2008 f150 intake plenum to run my 1997 f150 throttle body. I paid a total for the engine like $600
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!!! Thank you for sharing!
@marvinautoworks9955
@marvinautoworks9955 5 жыл бұрын
did you take the knock sensor off the Windsor and put it on the Rom?
@younggun3678
@younggun3678 5 жыл бұрын
@@marvinautoworks9955 I had to drill and tap the hole on the Romeo block to fit the knock sensor for the Windsor just so I can use the stock harness without buying a pigtail. It was easy but you have to be careful to not crack the block or break the drill bit
@marvinautoworks9955
@marvinautoworks9955 5 жыл бұрын
@@younggun3678 did tap 1 of the 2 holes
@marvinautoworks9955
@marvinautoworks9955 5 жыл бұрын
Also I'm going from The Windsor to the Romeo
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you wouldn't be able to replace a Windsor with a Romeo or vice versa. There were a couple of years where you could find a Windsor in some vehicles that only otherwise used a Romeo due to a fire at the plant back around 2000 or so, I do know that some Mustangs and Panthers of those years received the Windsor engines ... other than the 8 bolt crank in high performance applications, I don't see why a Windsor would ever be better than a Romeo in the PI era. Since either engine was available in all the platforms at one point, I am sure there would be the needed parts to effect any swaps. The engines look the same to the PCM.
@darrylgibbs7553
@darrylgibbs7553 Жыл бұрын
2005 that is
@marcuselee1463
@marcuselee1463 3 жыл бұрын
🌵does your truck feel like it's got more power? 🐯Whích knock sénsor did u use? 💐Doés changing the timíng cover, and or the flex plate, have anything to do with timing?
@ric.eri.bonillas1800
@ric.eri.bonillas1800 5 жыл бұрын
I always trust this Ford 4.6L Triton Romeo, we have two Romeo 4.6L are running like champ over 200,000 miles on our one of F150 and Expedition also we had 2005 F150 5.4L 3V did not make it 200,000 miles on it that had much of problem with PCM, interior electrical, BCM, and transmission went bad, I hate it but 97 to 04 These Romeo and Windsor 4.6L engines are best! I love my 01 F150 crewcab with 4.6L Romeo, never give up on me unless just like simple change water pump, pump steering or alternator are no big deal.
@avitia38super
@avitia38super 4 жыл бұрын
My 97 f150 has over 262k miles still runs like a champ
@randallcarney1216
@randallcarney1216 2 жыл бұрын
The romeo and Windsor 4.6 for the f150 both use iron blocks.
@randallcarney1216
@randallcarney1216 2 жыл бұрын
The 5.4, 2 valve is also a great engine!
@marvinautoworks9955
@marvinautoworks9955 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that I did notice was that my Windsor timing cover bolt holes do not line up with the Romeo timing cover bolt holes just one of them
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
I did have only 1 bolt hole that didn't line up and it was just to the right of the water pump. We ended up putting a bunch of gasket maker around it to seal it up. The rest up the bolts will provide more than enough pressure to keep it tight. But, you are correct, there is that one bolt hole that didn't line up. Sorry we didn't catch this on camera. And thank you for calling this out!
@erickterry8453
@erickterry8453 4 жыл бұрын
The timing cover bolts are different size between the 2 also. I put a Windsor head on my romeo motor.
@jonasalford3883
@jonasalford3883 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I know it's been a while since you were working on this. Did you ever get her up and running?
@la.fishsticker119
@la.fishsticker119 5 жыл бұрын
The difference in your heads are one is pi and the other is non pi. The heads in your blown motor are actually better heads.
@whatsreallygoingon253
@whatsreallygoingon253 5 жыл бұрын
La.fishsticker 1 they are both pi he got it out of a 04 you can see the pirts are square when he shows it in the truck without intake
@la.fishsticker119
@la.fishsticker119 5 жыл бұрын
@@whatsreallygoingon253 I actually did see that after the fact...
@lattitude01
@lattitude01 4 жыл бұрын
maybe a dumb question, and if so i apologise, but still wading into the world of working on your own vehicles, Does the aluminum block and other small differences effect the capabilities of the vehicle once its all reassembled? reduced hp or towing capacity? can't help but think that they had to choose steel over aluminum for a reason, but my 99 needs a engine and i'm struggling to find one, so if i can expand my donor vehicle list i'd be stoked
@crownvictorialifestyle4421
@crownvictorialifestyle4421 5 жыл бұрын
It's a little confusing Romeo we're known for cast iron blocks only Windsor blocks came in cast iron and aluminum aka wap block so my guess is this is not a Romeo block you have the Windsor Assembly Plant block with the Romeo style heads
@skippysshop137
@skippysshop137 5 жыл бұрын
All Windsor 4.6 blocks will have 8 bolts on the flywheel, and don't have the cam girdle the Romeos have. Romeo 4.6 will have 6 flywheel/crank bolts.
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao that stopped me in my tracks to like what they both irons
@redpillproductionscanada5563
@redpillproductionscanada5563 4 жыл бұрын
Great video brother, what about the 5.4, could you swap that or would that be significantly more work?
@randallcarney1216
@randallcarney1216 2 жыл бұрын
They are basically the same as both 4.6 engines. Get the computer that goes with the 5.4 ,and get a 2 valve 5.4
@chrisbreedlove6494
@chrisbreedlove6494 5 жыл бұрын
So i bought a 97 f150 it had just had a motor swap...i bought it with a " belt squealing" and when you turn it off it has a whin sounded like air escaping thru a pinhole...i quickly eliminated the squealing belt theory and narrowed the sound down to the tranny pump/flywheel area...10,000 miles later it still makes the noise during idle...was told there was slight difference maybe with flywheel or tranny shaft??? Newer motor came out of a 99e150 van
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
That is a tough one. I honestly don’t know :( sorry
@chrisbreedlove6494
@chrisbreedlove6494 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll after your video I wonder if the flywheel from the van was different than the one for the f150....assuming they used the flywheel that was on the Romeo motor
@pablogarciavasquez6637
@pablogarciavasquez6637 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT WORK ADN GREAT VIDEO ! GREETINGS FROM LIMA PERU.
@jacobmartin666
@jacobmartin666 3 ай бұрын
Will a 1995 thunderbird Romeo 4.6 swap into a 97 f150 I know I need to swap a couple things was trying to see what all would needed to be done
@brandonadams2660
@brandonadams2660 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you use the old 6 bolt fly wheel that you pulled off the junkyard motor? I see you bought a new one, why is that? I have a 1999 mustang and I’m putting a 2004 Romeo in it, the Romeo engine comes with the 6 bolt fly wheel already, are the flywheels the same with the 1999 and 2004 with the exception of the Romeo being a 6 bolt and the Windsor being a 8 bolt, are they the same other than that?
@kosycat1
@kosycat1 2 жыл бұрын
wow dude. amazing job!
@carlosbravo5091
@carlosbravo5091 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 2003 F150 with a 4.6 Windsor. I found a 4.6 Romeo out of a 2006 F150 My mechanic swapped them out, but when he starts it motor runs fine for like 10 seconds, then starts running like crap. He says it starts dumping too much fuel into the motor? I'm at a loss. What do you think it can be?
@jamesmorris2411
@jamesmorris2411 3 жыл бұрын
The modular engines are so easy to deal with.
@MrMechanicandy
@MrMechanicandy Жыл бұрын
I am wondering what problems you found on the swap like intake gaskets wrong ? Thanks
@lil_kurl9998
@lil_kurl9998 Жыл бұрын
So do you need a f150 flywheel or can I use the one off say a crown Vic or what every donor vehicle
@TBCG
@TBCG 5 жыл бұрын
Hey do you think a 2004 crown victoria engine will bolt straight into a 1995 crown victoria?
@cob2072
@cob2072 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@deanmazza1116
@deanmazza1116 2 жыл бұрын
Curious ... how long does it take to take out the motor ?? Im getting stupid labor hours :) Thanks
@jrneff9773
@jrneff9773 Жыл бұрын
did you pull the engine out with not removing rad or front end?
@shanemcclaran3012
@shanemcclaran3012 Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference with internal balance vs. Externally balanced engines between the two engines
@bigggmustang73
@bigggmustang73 Жыл бұрын
I believe only the Explorer and Mountaineer got the aluminum block 2v Romeo. Crown Vic's etc are iron
@lovernchristopher
@lovernchristopher 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if anyone has ever swapped out a 4.6 to an old school 351? I've searched online and wasn't able to find anything near what I was hoping for. Looking to do this on a new generation 2004 f150 two wheel drive crew.
@israelbarbeytia1544
@israelbarbeytia1544 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same for a mustang tho, and I was struggling to see what I was gonna do for the flywheel
@flexinflexico
@flexinflexico 5 жыл бұрын
oh man, i am keeping my mom's 2000 f150 and some guy swapped a 3V 4.6 into it and it runs like crap, plan on swapping a Romeo 4.6 out of a 01-04 Mustang GT and have it as a fun daily. also needs a new transmission, and new suspension... might as well replace the truck lmao
@4406bbldb
@4406bbldb 5 жыл бұрын
I'd diagnose the 3 v running problem. It should run great.
@alexpuls8219
@alexpuls8219 5 жыл бұрын
Runs like crap cuz that truck isn't supposed to have vvt
@stevenbass5398
@stevenbass5398 5 жыл бұрын
Lock out the cam phasers problem fixed
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Just slap some 2v heads on there and call it a day or go 4v but you'll pay more for that
@thenhraguy4935
@thenhraguy4935 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2010 f150 ,4.6 2 valve inside my single cab and its a good , decent motor
@mattweeks2272
@mattweeks2272 4 жыл бұрын
THE NHRA GUY #49 is it stock? 2010 f150s came with the 3v 4.6
@thenhraguy4935
@thenhraguy4935 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattweeks2272 I ran my vin number on all data . it's a f150 single cab 8ft 2wd. Base model
@thenhraguy4935
@thenhraguy4935 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattweeks2272 its got a 2 valve 4.6 I ran my vin on all data and have all the stuff printed off for it. I work at a car dealership
@thenhraguy4935
@thenhraguy4935 4 жыл бұрын
Do you wanna run my vin number ? Your barking up the wrong tree buddie . you wanna run my vin to my truck ? U wanna see what comes up. ?
@jrneff9773
@jrneff9773 Жыл бұрын
i will keep alive my 3 2v 4.6s and 1 5.4 till i die great engine may put them in a chevy some day man that will piss off the ls pees
@shelbiemartorelli2730
@shelbiemartorelli2730 3 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed on my 4.6 mountaineer motor is that the crank shaft position sensor plug in is different then my 02 how did you fix that
@AntoineFinch
@AntoineFinch 5 жыл бұрын
My 01 Eddie Bauer 4.6L came with the Romeo 4.6l in it!
@Jayroespinal
@Jayroespinal 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about swapping my 4.6l 2valve off my mercury grand marquis and to 4valve off a Lincoln aviator soon, just gotta see what's available near me
@robertbelote5273
@robertbelote5273 4 жыл бұрын
Its called a Windsor? I thought the windsor designation left with the 351? I literally never knew that i thought it was called a mod, is it built in windsor Ontario?
@eclipsegst9419
@eclipsegst9419 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Windsor/Romeo designation refers to where it was produced.
@musicrevelation2023
@musicrevelation2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@eclipsegst9419 no, windsors are the cam in block design. The 4.6 and 5.4 are modular motors because they are ohc design not windsors
@eclipsegst9419
@eclipsegst9419 3 жыл бұрын
@@musicrevelation2023 Windsor small blocks were named that because of their production plant, so were Clevelands. Modular motors also use Windsor or Romeo to distinguish between them as there are differences. Only matters if you are building/rebuilding so the terms are used a lot less than they were on the ohc engines.
@jeremy.D1985
@jeremy.D1985 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a crack in the block at 8:11 where the timing cover bolts up above the oil filter?
@chancemiller784
@chancemiller784 4 жыл бұрын
Motor mount
@TacticalTechGamer
@TacticalTechGamer Ай бұрын
Es la union entre el Block y la cabeza🙃
@LilDez
@LilDez 5 жыл бұрын
Yo please answer this one question.... So you have to change the timing chain? I can't just drop a full Romeo in swap the fly wheel and run it? Going from a 2000 mustang 4.6 Windsor to an 01 mustang Romeo, I'm guessing the timing is just changed because yours is from a different model
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Lil Dez, since the motor was out, I decided to do the timing chain at the same time. Way easier out of the vehicle than in it. But if you are replacing the timing chain, go with the parts for what ever motor is going back in to the vehicle.
@jessefarias1507
@jessefarias1507 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can put the Romeo heads on a Windsor block? I heard you can but if you have the valve covers and the top of the timing chain cover bolts(smaller than Windsor’s) im just curious if the timing chain from a Windsor block would still work
@musicrevelation2023
@musicrevelation2023 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can put any head onto a 4.6 so long as its from another 4.6 or 5.4, and both motors are modular motors not windsors
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicrevelation2023 The "Windsor" refers to the plant the engine was produced in - in this video, a Windsor is a mod motor and not the old SBF such as a 260/289/302/351W.
@mihaelastefan1488
@mihaelastefan1488 4 жыл бұрын
so I bought a 2010 E150 with a knocking 4.6L v8 engine . would a older year such as 05, 06 or 07 E150 4.6 l v8 engine work for a swap? Any ideas?
@KSA-uu8js
@KSA-uu8js 4 жыл бұрын
So the complete aluminum windsor intake is a bolt on to the romeo?
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
More on the heads 99+ is when pi heads came around
@claude6318
@claude6318 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome man great video
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@eduardowheeler9547
@eduardowheeler9547 2 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get valve covers and fly wheel from?
@alexquinones992
@alexquinones992 2 жыл бұрын
Im going from Romeo to windsor right now
@arturosilva1064
@arturosilva1064 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 ford expedition xlt 4.6l with 4 wheel drive the 8th digit of of VIN is w . So here's my questions 1: what years will have interchangeable engines without having to change out other parts 2: will a 5.4l engine same year with 4 wheel drive fit and work properly 3: does it matter if I find the same engine and year ect. But the transmission is not a 4 wheel drive? I'm stuck I'll find a ton of 2001 expeditions with 8 digit vin as w but they are 2 wheel drive and mine is always 4 wheel drive all the time with a 4h and 4l switch or I'll find ones that are 4 wheel drive ford expedition but they are usually 4 wheel drive like mine but not sure if I'll have to change anything else out if I go from the 4.6l to a 5.4l .Please help me I'm lost lol
@StonedPony1
@StonedPony1 3 жыл бұрын
I am just now changing a 1999 5.4 to a 2001 4.6 romeo engine in a F150 and I am about to find out.
@sidgresham9115
@sidgresham9115 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 04 40th anniversary supercharge mustang gt an the tips of all plugs are smashed in from the pistons hitting the plugs anyway I take it that motor is no good. Ok I have a 97 4.6 that is ready to go great motor. My question is will it fit in my 04 4.6 an can I mount the supercharge on it?
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Npi head vs the motor in your car is a pi head so swap your heads and do forged internals while your at it these rods and piston dont hold past 450 whp with your older motor having a forged crank already and it's a 8bolt the one in your car is a 6bolt cast crank
@bryanroupe8646
@bryanroupe8646 5 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of a mod engine be referenced as a Windsor. I would have put a 5.4 in it. I put a 5.4 in a 00 mustang originally with a 4.6 and ran on the stock ecu.
@rustybrowneye
@rustybrowneye 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice any significant difference power-wise just from swiping in the 5.4
@bryanroupe8646
@bryanroupe8646 4 жыл бұрын
It was a totally different car. Tons more torque.
@RobertGarcia-ov7ni
@RobertGarcia-ov7ni 4 жыл бұрын
Windsor simply refers to where the engine block was made, in this case it was made in Windsor, Ontario. Romeo was made in Romeo, Michigan. slight differences but both can be mod'ed. (if that's what you were getting at)
@bryanroupe8646
@bryanroupe8646 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I know where the name Windsor come from. Like I said in the comment. I have never heard of a mod motor referenced as a Windsor. The only engine I know referenced as a Windsor is the 351 push rod engine like the one in my mustang.
@RobertGarcia-ov7ni
@RobertGarcia-ov7ni 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanroupe8646 gotcha, just trying to be helpful.
@chriscirino8412
@chriscirino8412 5 жыл бұрын
Did the same swap in my 2000 Mustang GT
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! It is a great swap!
@calebracer7
@calebracer7 5 жыл бұрын
What all did you have to swap from engine to engine? I'm looking into the same swap same year car
@erikviking
@erikviking 4 жыл бұрын
How did your swap go? any advice? I’m contemplating the exact same swap.
@dalejustice9207
@dalejustice9207 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like the cam sprockets was different, the Romeo had cam bolts n the Windsor didn't. Good job buddy, I was looking for the difference between the two motors.
@jeffcox597
@jeffcox597 2 жыл бұрын
It's a flex plate, fly wheels are used with manual transmission.
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even I started correcting people. Been a couple years since this :)
@moosestangls5099
@moosestangls5099 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@dalequinn6621
@dalequinn6621 5 жыл бұрын
So I have a 98 f150 with a 4.6l what can I swap that with? Can I use a newer 4.6l? The 98 have spark plug wires and the newer 4.6s has coil on plug... any suggestions?
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
You can run it on that spark set up but the newer pi heads need a pi intake to get the extra power
@rannz7
@rannz7 3 жыл бұрын
They're the exact same engine. Only difference is the internals being slightly different. Any and all 4.6l V8 are the same engine and will fit in every single other car that has a 4.6l V8 of any year. People are just dumb and think everything is different and not made by the same exact company on the same exact block with the same exact engine mounts.
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
They are not exactly the same engine. There are differences which involve the crankshaft (A Windsor crank will not fit a Romeo engine due to crank throw clearance issues), valve covers have different bolts, cams are held down differently (all of which he went over here in this video, with the exception of the crank). As much as the vehicle is concerned, there isn't any functional difference (aside from the flexplates). One will bolt right in where the other once was.
@phillipbrown319
@phillipbrown319 3 жыл бұрын
Can I do reverse in swapping a Romeo with a windsor
@jumpysweettea3058
@jumpysweettea3058 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put a 1994 5.0 V8 Windsor from an f150 into a 2001 mustang that is originally a 3.4 v6
@musicrevelation2023
@musicrevelation2023 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the 5.0 Windsor is pretty slow in that year and the v6 is pretty much faster and makes a similar amount of power
@buddyrebel_Garcia
@buddyrebel_Garcia 5 жыл бұрын
Nice swap buddy!
@TheManFromMA
@TheManFromMA 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the top bolts of the cover that bolt to the heads are smaller on a Romeo.
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that clarification!
@moosestangls5099
@moosestangls5099 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the bolt pattern matter on the flywheel as long as it will bolt to the torque converter
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 3 жыл бұрын
I think I forgot to mention there was a different tooth count on the flexplate.
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Windsor and romeo are both iron blocks the 03 04 motors being the stronger castings
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
@@302efi still not a romeo block might be romeo heads not block chance is a WAP block
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinhowze6280 If it was assembled in the Romeo factory, it is a Romeo engine.
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 2 жыл бұрын
@@silicon212 for the most part the crank pully and valve covers would be the difference
@taylorpuckett8295
@taylorpuckett8295 4 жыл бұрын
Will the 4.6 romeo motor work on a 4×4 f150?? I also have an f150 with a bad 4.6 motor
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can swap between the 2 like I did.
@taylorpuckett8295
@taylorpuckett8295 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll thanks
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
My friend has a 2005 4x4 the engine went bad in due to water in cylinder 1. Bad intake gasket allowed water to flow right into the intake port from the coolant crossover. This truck had a Romeo engine in it from the factory. We used a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis engine (also a Romeo) as a replacement. The only thing we had to do was swap timing covers.
@jackfishcampbell6745
@jackfishcampbell6745 3 жыл бұрын
I find this confusing , this is the modular engine with overhead cams . I thought Windsor engines were just the overhead valve 260 289 302 351 w engines ?
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel 3 жыл бұрын
No, there's Windsor car and truck 4.6 And there's Romeo car and truck 4.6 Both are overhead valve engines. There's also the 4.6 dohc I believe they can also be Windsor or romeo😊
@marvinautoworks9955
@marvinautoworks9955 5 жыл бұрын
How do I do the knock sensor. Will the Windsor knock sensor just bolt up to the Romeo
@mj2069
@mj2069 5 жыл бұрын
im want to know the same thing?
@StonedPony1
@StonedPony1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mj2069 Yes the sensor is the cable and the bolt just holds in in place.
@garypitzer8729
@garypitzer8729 5 жыл бұрын
What engine is better? The Winsor? Or the Romeo?
@mattweeks2272
@mattweeks2272 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Pitzer they’re generally about equal as far as reliability and durability. Biggest thing is maintain them. Change the oil on time and they tend to last
@marktheamazing3683
@marktheamazing3683 4 жыл бұрын
is there any benefit of having a romeo over a windsor?
@musicrevelation2023
@musicrevelation2023 3 жыл бұрын
The 4.6 isn't a Windsor at all anyways. They are modular motors. The Romeo heads are the only advantage but not by a lot
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicrevelation2023 There are Windsor 4.6 and 5.4 mod motors. If it has 8 bolts connecting the flexplate/flywheel to the crank, it's a Windsor. If it has 13 bolts holding the valve covers in place, it's a Windsor.
@gratestever2430
@gratestever2430 5 жыл бұрын
My truck has a Windsor 4.6 and I’m trying to swap it for a mustang Romeo 4.6 I want to keep the mustang heads and intake does anyone have any tips for me
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Gratest Ever, you should be able to put the heads from your mustang onto the other block. Then, the intake will also fit because you transferred the heads.
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of pointless if your truck has pi heads keep them the Windsor are 8 bolt forged crank unlike the 6 bolt Romeo cast crank if your trying to make more power you need to look into building a motor and what one you want the mark8 and navigater motors are both 4v and fit but 5.4 going to make good torque
@derrickbuff5775
@derrickbuff5775 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that the windsor failed because when the timing chain was done they weren't done right u can see where it rubbed a hole in the oil pump
@sarahgames5339
@sarahgames5339 4 жыл бұрын
What state are you in
@streetslayers410
@streetslayers410 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to be the bearer of bad news BUT...there is NO such thing as an aluminum romeo. That is a WAP (Windsor aluminum plant) not a romeo.
@robertpeters3924
@robertpeters3924 5 жыл бұрын
Can this be done with a Mustang Romeo motor?
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it should be the same.
@robertpeters3924
@robertpeters3924 5 жыл бұрын
So the Windsor intake bolts line up on the Romeo? Awesome
@robertpeters3924
@robertpeters3924 5 жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH I'm putting a GT motor in my 1997 F150!
@Necrometalfist
@Necrometalfist 5 жыл бұрын
Of course, Mustangs used both Windsor and Romeo engines.
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 5 жыл бұрын
Which one had the Spark Plug holes with only 3 threads?? They were notorious for blowing out Plugs - taking the threads with them!
@crownvictorialifestyle4421
@crownvictorialifestyle4421 4 жыл бұрын
Your information is wrong Romeo 4.6l are all cast iron you have the wap block which is Windsor Assembly plant which are aluminum the wap shortblock came in 2v explorers and mountaineers /4v Mercury Marauders and Lincoln aviators
@bubitoyalex
@bubitoyalex 3 жыл бұрын
Hey what part number its flywheel
@adriennekaczmarczyk9106
@adriennekaczmarczyk9106 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some info on really crappy engines.
@Floordford
@Floordford 5 жыл бұрын
I've ran Romeo heads on a Windsor short block.
@johnserton7997
@johnserton7997 4 жыл бұрын
Same motor just different valve covers right?
@dylannotaro627
@dylannotaro627 4 жыл бұрын
I'm swaping mine right now the valve covers and intake are the two main differences all though the plugs are different as well
@johnserton7997
@johnserton7997 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylannotaro627 how are the plugs different?
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
And the crank
@suertederey4564
@suertederey4564 4 жыл бұрын
Was there a power difference with the swap?
@musicrevelation2023
@musicrevelation2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@dylannotaro627 bruh, I hope you mean heads, valve covers don't do shit. They are only to cover the vlaves up and to keep oil inside the engine lol
@deanallen4875
@deanallen4875 4 жыл бұрын
You still haven't answered my question. How do I test start a 4.6 engine that is NOT in a vehicle?
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 4 жыл бұрын
You would either need to build a dyno stand and have everything like a fuel cell, cooling, etc. Or, take it somewhere that can dyno a Ford Engine. There isn’t an “easy” way to do this.
@Maria-hb3kc
@Maria-hb3kc 5 жыл бұрын
I was tryna see if I can put a 2000 lincoln towncar motor in a 2000 expedition do you think it's possible?
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
It may, but you will probably be changing a lot of parts from the Expedition over to the Towncar motor.
@Mitchellcapps
@Mitchellcapps 5 жыл бұрын
MARIA S I’m tryna put a 97 Lincoln town car 4.6 into my 99 f150 4.6
@sarahgames5339
@sarahgames5339 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to buy a motor for 90 dollars
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 4 жыл бұрын
It's not 11 valve cover bolts holes for that Romeo, it's 9.
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
Romeo engines have 11 bolt valve covers. Windsor engines have 13.
@beachsidebum
@beachsidebum 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Why would you want the Romeo over the Windsor?
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 2 жыл бұрын
Two words, "Availability" and "Price"
@beachsidebum
@beachsidebum 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll Im not being a ashol I was wanting to know.. so when you say availability does hat mean windsors are hard to find? and why do windsor's cost that much more? Im a f body guy so my 2000 gt is my 1st mustang and I dont know any better.. why do people want windsors over a romeo? If same performance and reliability and HP are same Why dont people always replace with Romeo? I was told that my Winsor was made in canada and hen there was a fire and rest were made in America but i didnt even know there was a difference in motors offered but now Ive got a rare engine thats going to cost more to fix unless Romeo parts will interchange?
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
They are functionally identical, and the Romeo is much more plentiful.
@josearellano3268
@josearellano3268 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend go with motorcraft spark plugs.
@Silvr_3.7
@Silvr_3.7 4 жыл бұрын
Wait that truck had PI heads? 👀
@pcs38nau
@pcs38nau 4 жыл бұрын
Silvr_3.7 99/2000 was around the time ford added pi heads to the 4.6 and 5.4. hp ratings went up to reflect the head change.
@Silvr_3.7
@Silvr_3.7 4 жыл бұрын
pcs38nau Ik they did in the mustangs because my 2000 had PI heads. The crown vic didn’t get it tho until after 03. I’ve learned a good bit since I left that comment 😂
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
@@Silvr_3.7 All Romeo engines received PI in 2001, including on the Panther cars. Some Romeo engines (Mustang), and all Windsor engines, received PI in 1999.
@daviddelacruz3196
@daviddelacruz3196 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bro so what’s the difference
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, so like I mentioned in the video, the biggest thing is the cast iron vs aluminum block. Most other things are the same, but my video should describe most differences.
@michaelgraham2347
@michaelgraham2347 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job but u still have to worry about spark plugs flying out , stay away from those things man.
@skippysshop137
@skippysshop137 5 жыл бұрын
Thew 4.6 2v Romeo & Windsor are one of the best engines Ford made. One can run into plugs blowing out if they are not torqued correctly. Cal Van makes a insert kit if a plug hole looses its threads specifically for the Triton V8. Very easy to repair, & no need to pull heads anymore. Ron Williams has excellent videos on using the Cal-Van tool.
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
In 2005, Ford revised the thread count which greatly reduced rocket plugs. However, almost all rocket plug incidents are due to improper plug installation / torque.
@Necrometalfist
@Necrometalfist 5 жыл бұрын
Why would you swap one for the other? There is literally nothing to be gained with such a swap.
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
We did it as the Aluminum block was a a lot more available in my area. The cast iron block was hard to find and over $2000 for a good, low miles engine. We bought the Aluminum from that Mountaineer for only $90ish on half of days at a pull a part yard.
@dafretz
@dafretz 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't the Romeo lighter, too?
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the aluminum Romeo is a little lighter.
@Necrometalfist
@Necrometalfist 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Mustang with a Romeo block, it's not aluminum.
@dafretz
@dafretz 5 жыл бұрын
Right, but that's not what Chad Williams has. He has an aluminum romeo block. Hence the reason I stated it would be lighter.
@lowslo9287
@lowslo9287 5 жыл бұрын
I like my Windsor to much to swap it out to a Romeo lol
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 5 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you... this was only because we had to. lol
@PureCountryof91
@PureCountryof91 5 жыл бұрын
Until.you want a teksid..
@lowslo9287
@lowslo9287 5 жыл бұрын
@@PureCountryof91 rather have a buikt Windsor instead of teskid
@santosgarcia9499
@santosgarcia9499 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll how much did that cost if you dont mind me asking and which motor do you prefer the Windsor or Romen
@santosgarcia9499
@santosgarcia9499 4 жыл бұрын
Romeo
@drowinwasteland
@drowinwasteland 5 жыл бұрын
Is the romeo a 3 valve? If so, eww.
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
It's a 2v. Did you see cam phasers? I sure didn't.
@Hollywoodhouse74
@Hollywoodhouse74 3 жыл бұрын
Bet ur connecting rod bent and caused ur problems.. my number 8 did the same thing.. only difference is.. I didn't run it . U running it is what tore ur barrings up
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll
@ChadWilliamsFixesAll 3 жыл бұрын
It was my buddies engine, so I am not sure why he ran it for so long. I actually can't believe it was still running with that much catastrophic damage inside of it. :)
@Hollywoodhouse74
@Hollywoodhouse74 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChadWilliamsFixesAll im gonna rebuild mine... haven't decided which way I'm gonna go with ir...
@datboydro2267
@datboydro2267 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what?
@Silent_Ivan
@Silent_Ivan 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@elijahsmith2054
@elijahsmith2054 3 жыл бұрын
The Romeo is the garbage engine. Why use that one? Why not try to source another Windsor?
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
Romeo is not a garbage engine. I pulled the engine out of my 2005 CVPI @ 250k miles due to an oil consumption issue. When I tore down the engine, I discovered the valve stem seals were toast but the rest of the engine looked almost new inside. No discernable wear on ANY of the bearings, rings also looked new and factory crosshatch could still be seen in the cylinder walls. For an engine that was run hard and put away wet by law enforcement for 122k miles before I got it, then subject to another 130k miles of use (not babied at all), I would hardly agree that a Romeo is garbage.
@dustinblock9186
@dustinblock9186 3 жыл бұрын
Can it be done? Yeah sure.. should it? Big no. The Romeo motor is junk compared to the Windsor. Just no
@dustinblock9186
@dustinblock9186 3 жыл бұрын
I dont mean to come off rude its a great video but my advice. A better Windsor is best
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
They are functionally identical. The only thing the Windsor might have is crank bolt to flywheel count.
@jdmracing6146
@jdmracing6146 5 жыл бұрын
For the love of Christ stop calling them motors. Motors are electric and engines are internal combustion.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it called Ford Motor Company?
@white89gt
@white89gt 5 жыл бұрын
Notice where is says "internal combustion". www.google.com/search?q=motor+definition&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS780US780&oq=motor+defin&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.2783j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
@silicon212
@silicon212 2 жыл бұрын
Rocket motors are not electric and rely on internal combustion. What say you?
@davidschnabel9164
@davidschnabel9164 9 ай бұрын
Motor oil???? Ive been fed lies my whole life?? Nooooooooo! Lol
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