will MomTok even survive this? || Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

[@katehilliard6964]

The show made so much more sense to me when someone mentioned these women went from living with their parents to being married with kids at 18. They never got the chance to learn about themselves or grow so of course they're acting like teenagers in their mid 20s.

[@AmyAmore99]

I got married and had kids straight out of high school and we do NOT act like this. And I'm not even mormon

[@montananerd8244]

@@AmyAmore99did you have premarital sex? I’m not literally asking but that’s a big difference. Getting married at 18 partly because you are pregnant is different than getting married without experience & then intentionally starting a family. It’s just a different mind set.

[@katehilliard6964]

Oh I didn't mean all people who had kids early! I meant more that they have lived very controlled, sheltered lives. First their fathers set the rules and now their husbands do.

[@cascharles3838]

​@@AmyAmore99 through choice? As opposed to those who do it because of religious pressure.

[@minano-nim6795]

​@@AmyAmore99 the fact you're not Mormon might be part of the difference. I'm not American, and while we have some Mormons in my country, we have many other religious and cultural groups that practice similar lifestyles. Girls in particular are almost always raised to have zero agency, to be completely dependent on someone else (e.g. one of my friends refused to go with us on a trip because "we never traveled without an adult before"... We were all 20 or older). Even I, although I was not part of any of these cultural or religious groups, was told that I should get married before I live alone or go forward in my studies because "men only want women who are less mature or educated than them".

[@gblikestosew]

This show is fascinating because it's like "how many facets of my religion can I ignore before the church kicks me out?"

[@durcheinander5554]

They probably still pay tithing and social media pays well, sooo... they can do what they want

[@hannahbarz5854]

This is actually a HUGE part of why im concerned people are taking away the wrong conclusions from this show. The Mormon Church is worth Billions of dollars and is likely the largest land owner in the country. They do a LOT of harm to those who don’t feel like they can “be themselves” within the system. They fight against women’s health care, education, and LGBTQ+ rights with the money that members have to give to remain a part of the church. It HELPS the church to be seen as tolerant of these women despite their divorces or even immodesty (you ARE supposed to wear the garments etc). It makes the church appear more approachable and they have recently been allowing more “lapses” by popular Mormon influencers. Despite this, I believe the Mormon church inflicts trauma on so many people including women and queer kids. I suggest checking out Jordan and McKay on KZbin. They chose to leave the Mormon church after going on mission, getting married in the temple, etc.

[@sleepysystem]

havign listened to ex-mormons: the church may not approve but pardons things like this from influencers bc luring in younger people is one of their goals. not being viewed as cultish and harmful to women as it really is is important to the continued growth of the mormon church. on the whole so long as theyre paying their dues and making the church look non-restrictive and appealing theyre doing their job and are given privileges and leeway that most members of the faith would never receive.

[@allier1867]

Apparently for some social media platforms the lds church "supports" the moms. So yeah... they wont be kicked out.

[@TastyTeeth69]

Just wait until you're exposed the the shockingly likely theory that the church is the one putting up all the adsense money for their content though (Alyssa Grenfel has a great video on this). What's more likely is they'll forgive a lot if it might attract people to the church who will also tithe and drink the kool-aid a bit better than these influences.

[@tanja3611]

my favourite part was when the one mom got back from jail and was like "i wonder if the other moms are gonna judge me for it" as if she's not in a group of women who will shame someone for drinking coffee or wearing the wrong underwear

[@JinxMarie1985]

😂😂 They judge anyone for breathing the wrong way lol as if they're not gonna judge someone that got arrested and put in jail.

[@ElizaGlide]

I laughed out loud when you showed those photos. You cannot convince me that 7/8 of these women are the same person.

[@Steph-zo5zk]

I'm convinced there's a secret cloning facility somewhere and they just tweak a few details to avoid suspicion

[@VeginMatt]

As another youtuber said (paraphrased) "why couldn't a producer just make one of them wear a hat!"

[@TH0KH]

They needed to wear those sweaters with their names on them the whole time

[@madisonjeanfr]

@@TH0KHi was thinking the same thing 😭

[@OpossumOnTheMoon]

Mormons (especially from Utah) are notorious for looking alike

[@EllenTaylor-e1u]

As a former Mormon. These women are so real and there are SOOOO many of them. Toxic. Nasty. Backstabbing. All in the name of eternal life. If you aren't the Queen Bee in your group, you're clearly not trying hard enough and deserve all the things that happen to you in your life. I was laughing so hard that the big drama was around the baby blessing. That shit happens. ALL THE TIME. I was horrified at Zac's behavior, especially considering he's gambling. SUPER not ok if you're a temple recommend carrying member (which apparently they are) which means they're lying to their Bishops. He was mad at her for going to a strip club, which he gambled with money SHE gave him. Get real dude. I don't think she'll ever leave because of her status while married to him and the money that comes along with once he IS a doctor.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

This sounds more toxic than the women in hollywood

[@EllenTaylor-e1u]

It 100% is.

[@manicpepsicola3431]

​@theoutsiderjess1869 thats Mormonism for yoy

[@Dvgteeth]

Mormonism is straight up evil.

[@mckinleygallyer458]

Ex Mormon here as well I think we just about to say basically this same comment. You hit the nail on the head

[@emilyolivarez9652]

Also the thing about Jen’s mom working as a custodian at the same hospital her husband’s father is a surgeon at is a crazy power dynamic in their marriage

[@kasia3582]

And yet Jen being the breadwinner over him oh lord

[@Steph-zo5zk]

No desire to watch this show but hearing you explain it in detail? YES PLEASE

[@MsLinaTina]

I feel the same. I need a youtuber to tell me all the drama so I'm informed without supporting the people involved.

[@justjoannak]

Same here

[@Steph-zo5zk]

@@MsLinaTina swell's the one really doing the lords work

[@anthaila]

For real! Discovered the show earlier today on Disney+, tried to watch, and couldn't get over how frustratingly edited and plotted it was, like throwing you in the deep end of all the gossip and attempting to draw you in with clearly plotted coffee date and quick reel sneak peeks. No time to form connections or giving a shit about anyone, just immediately dropped into the drama almost like assuming the viewers were already familiar with most of the stuff? Not even being able to snark with my sis about it all saved it, so we rage quit halfway into ep one. Swore one of my faves would cover the pertinent stuff on KZbin and here we are~

[@cortney8493]

@@MsLinaTinaJordan and McKay on YT do great!

[@alexalynn5952]

Oh it was for sure men on Grindr. I didn't even know that was the original rumor, but they were talking about it so oddly that I came to that conclusion myself.

[@orisohma8139]

💯💯💯

[@yeet6850]

Yeah “sexually confused” was the big tell for me. Always code for gay

[@bingonight1504]

coulda been both

[@TheAbigailDee]

I thought that 100%. "Porn addiction" in a lot of devout churches is very queer or PDF file stuff (they are not equivalent I just have heard the "porn addiction" excuse for both a million times).

[@manicpepsicola3431]

​@@TheAbigailDeesame!

[@annaxoats6479]

being exmormon in utah and watching this show was wild on so many levels. the show nails the utah religious culture

[@scumengel]

Exactly! Im exmormon but in Kansas instead (with many originally Utah residents in and out my local church) it was actually so odd to see😭😭

[@arstyashley]

I loved the show 😂 I was raised Mormon and it was fun to see the double standards of how people act in the church get proper representation

[@the_newt_nest]

I've never been in the church but based on what I've heard, I'm really surprised they allowed this to be broadcast.

[@Agmolly]

Not representation 😂

[@nathanblanchard8897]

If you haven’t already, you need to watch Under the Banner of Heaven. Andrew Garfield KILLED that role, and I think it was the best representation of deconstruction. The scene where he’s in the car in the garage? OHHHBABY ouch. Hit close to home.

[@kgal1298]

LMAO apparently the church did put out a statement saying this was accurate.

[@johnwhite-cn3qc]

I need Swell to go to Utah and learn the deep Mormon Lore. BYU, Deseret, the Mormon war, Joseph Smith, Pop, jump-humping, MLMs. There's so much content

[@rylee4111]

My favorite factoid is that Joseph smith never even made it to Utah.

[@blazer9547]

​@@rylee4111so?

[@craigjenkins5434]

Do I even want to know what jump-humping is?

[@alanfike]

What's going on with booze? I was told that only members of a designated club that is sanctioned by the church get to drink, and at a designated, sanctioned location. They can just drink now?! And is the soda still caffiene free?

[@craigjenkins5434]

@@alanfike I am not Mormon, I grew up in a different Christian denomination so I really don't know, but I thought that no Mormons were allowed to drink alchohol. However, my guess would be that the Mormons who are drinking are just breaking the rules. Just like premarital sex, gambling, or any other anti-Mormon vice

[@evelynaaa]

Not only did she put the used pregnancy test in the cake for her family to eat, she gave it to a bakery for them to physically put in the cake and decorate with SHES INSANEEE

[@Dvgteeth]

I’d argue the bakery that actually did that is more insane and should maybe be shut down

[@Aelitagurl]

She didn't even CLEAN the thing before having it put in the cake 💀☠️☠️☠️🤮🤮🤮

[@schokococoa575]

Could the bakery have cleaned it before adding it in after seeing it’s used?

[@teenym1999]

CACKLING AT “why do they want a homestead? I don’t know because they want to turn off the Wi-Fi so he can’t connect to tinder?”

[@marykay7878]

Supposedly he met his conquests on grindr. Whitney then said people stole his pics from Facebook and set this account up to troll him lmfaoooo

[@ElizaGlide]

It really breaks my brain that Taylor is dealing with the loss of her pregnancy and potentially her fertility (which is basically your life if you're a Mormon woman) and Whitney is STILL pulling this high school behavior. Complaining about social media hate you got for something forever ago, turning icy the second the conversation stops being about you, sneering and sniping at your "competition" about their moments of vulnerability... I feel bad for her kids.

[@dontworryabtitlol]

Whitney is a terrible mother. The scene of her bringing her children to run around and throw the salt in that Himalayan salt sauna drove me insane. She was just prattling on about this inane TikTok drama while they're screaming for her attention and ruining the place 🙃

[@blubbydragon5381]

That’s just Utah “ME FIRST!” culture. I lived in Utah for 5 years and that’s super normal behavior there. It’s mixture of there being a cultural bubble that lets people still act like high schoolers well into adulthood, and a culture that strongly encourages you to always care about yourself over others. An example: My sister worked at a dental practice for 2 years in a city called Lehi. There was one time she walked in on one of the assistants screaming at her mom on the phone because apparently the girl’s family had a yearly family reunion and didn’t ask HER permission to invite a family friend of the mom’s who was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer and was literally set to pass in 2 months. This was a woman the girl had known since she was a baby, and she didn’t have any bad blood with either. She also knew this woman was a divorced single mother who had no extended family to turn to, and that inviting her to the family reunion right before she was going to die was important emotionally. The girl just felt her family was required to bend to her will. Her actual response on the phone was “I mean yeah I know she has cancer and that it’s serious and she’s gonna die or whatever, but still! You should’ve asked ME!” It’s weird because the LDS church tries to stress caring for others, but the state it controls is so morally screwed.

[@TH0KH]

Apparently she had another miscarriage after that one with her current dude, before #3 stuck. She was going throoooough it

[@Varikas]

@@blubbydragon5381the farther you live from the coast the more insane people get I swear

[@verdantvixen96]

⁠@@VarikasI live smack in the middle of the USA, far away from any coasts, and this kind of nonsense does *not* happen here. So I have to strongly disagree with this comment 😂

[@Mirukumaa]

The way my jaw dropped when Swell mentioned that one of them was the woman behind the NICU dancing 😭 puts it into context

[@soccerchic017]

I was so mad when they tricked Jen into going to an event she clearly stated she would be uncomfortable with. Especially knowing her husband can be controlling. Why set her up to get in trouble, even if she shouldn’t get in trouble?!?

[@moonlightauras1]

I have this theory (conspiracy) that all these women hate their husbands and are subconsciously sabotaging each other's relationships because they are all too scared to say they want to divorce/break up. They all know their husbands will be mad if they do certain things or trick other women into doing certain things.

[@cassandraclover9830]

@@moonlightauras1oh WOW. i think you’re on to something

[@schokococoa575]

@@moonlightauras1makes sense, it’s not like they’d have chosen these men if they truly had a choice

[@imsleepy6211]

I was raised in a mormon family and the men act the same way, I wish I was kidding. My parents were like this to each other and their kids. My siblings are like this with each other and their kids. I finally have a video I can show my mom when she asks why I wont accept my sister's "apology" omg surreal

[@JuliaC975]

I feel not enough time is spent on the fact that Taylor hit her 5 year old kid in the head with a metal chair during the DV situation and still got a show. I know people feel bad for Taylor but I don’t gloss over her arrest at all.

[@justjoannak]

She did what?! Yuck 🤮🤮

[@janeh9962]

yeah this most DEFINITELYY needs to be talked about more oh my god😭😭 i had genuinely never heard of this aspect of it all

[@Mandavee]

Amanda discussing a reality show is my favorite way to get the tea, without having to watch the show

[@margaret7407]

I thought the hospital dancing TikTok was satire I'm cryinggggg

[@khai_tea]

When I first started watching it, I was shocked at how young they are. Literally I thought they were all in their late 30s-early 40s. Finding out the youngest is 22 was SCARY because they all look like good, but old for their actual age Edit: to specify, I was less shocked on their appearance than I was on their life experiences at such young ages.

[@justjoannak]

Zillenials/Elder Gen Zs have been shown to be looking older than they actually are tbh

[@malloryrubek1312]

They look older because of how much filler and Botox they all have.

[@anthaila]

Yeah, they dressed and did their make up way older, too? Like you know how sometimes young people doing their make up just age in front of your eyes? Smooth skin and stuff, but just older looking somehow? All the ladies gave those vibes, no matter how middle school they acted.

[@sideshowmob]

why do people now are so obsessed with this kind of comments? age, looking younger, looking older. It used to be something you just thought briefly, sometimes not at all. Now I see it in most comment sections

[@anthaila]

@@sideshowmob these kinds of comments are the bread and butter of gossip worldwide tho? You're lucky if you haven't bumped into comments like this before.

[@staceyann1180]

I'm surprised the saint couple with the husband in medical school admitted to a gambling problem. Gambling is another biiiig no-no in the Mormon church. As a former Mormon girl, I can tell you they'd be square in the sinners category for that alone! (Even his poor wife for giving him the money to gamble.)

[@maeish9471]

I've seen a lot of people online who because Whitney is so awful decide that Taylor is great but I just can't get behind Taylor. Every time she's on screen it's frustrating watch her knowingly make bad decisions

[@_dark_reunion_]

Yes! I agree that Whitney doesn't seem like a good person but it really irks me that people feels bad for Taylor because she's experiencing the consequences of her own irresponsible actions.

[@jourdantoliver4310]

this! i like taylor and like watching her in the show, but i'm sick of people acting like her mom is some villain for giving hard truths. it IS actually grossly irresponsible for her to have brought a baby into the situation she was in. while her and dakota might've worked it out at this point (which is great!) it was a real risk that they wouldn't or that they would remain in the toxic cycle they were in

[@chaliezarde]

@@jourdantoliver4310I feel like the people condemning her mom have NEVER have a family member who was grossly irresponsible or addicted to something (drugs, etc) where the family had to step in after them and sweep up their messes. Otherwise they would’ve seen that situation for what it was - it is NOT fair for Taylor’s parents to always have to run in and care for her kids when she’s being so irresponsible.

[@skyew2205]

While I agree with pretty much all of that, I think most of the hate towards Whitney stems from her refusing to take ANY responsibility for her mistakes. Any consequence she has to face, in her eyes, is someone else’s fault. At least Taylor consistently admits she fcked up and takes responsibility for it. That I can respect, but Whitney’s victim complex, nah that ain’t it.

[@axonn101]

All these Mormon divorces leads to a lot of real awkward planet ruling in the afterlife.

[@nathanblanchard8897]

Lmao imagine reading this without knowing the full plan of salvation

[@avshields6235]

@@nathanblanchard8897I have NO idea what the context is here lol I assume Mormon heaven is like, everyone is an intergalactic ruler.

[@cscreative5460]

@@avshields6235it’s giving L. Ron Hubbard

[@nathanblanchard8897]

@@avshields6235 not far off honestly, but only for the most goodest boys

[@cortney8493]

@@cscreative5460it’s actually not far off 😂

[@RodneyAndMeVideos]

Your hair during the Thrive Market section is extra dreamy! So glamorous

[@cozy.oak_]

I'm an ex-mormon and it's fascinating to see how the other mormons are doing damage control after this show has come out. Someone I know on Facebook made a super long post about "mormon wives isn't the actual mormon standard, we aren't taught to just be homemakers. I'll discuss but we can't debate." All that to say, I think you'd find the deep Mormon lore fascinating

[@Dvgteeth]

Yep that tracks 100% anything that challenges their views is wrong.

[@teamarie123]

Dude in 2020 Mormonism became my Roman Empire (in like an interested in culty things way) and now there is just so much content revolving around it and I’m here for it.

[@xorayne_]

can we talk about mikayla being considered a saint while openly NOT being mormon? like mikayla has spoken on her tik tok about not being mormon and she hasn’t been for like 7 years 😭 how’d she even get on the show?

[@tanja3611]

im so with you on the momtok name, the way they were talking about it SO SERIOUSLY but then called it momtok and all they seemed to be doing on it was little dances

[@OneKillQuota]

There is a literal hierarchy of how HIGH into heaven you can get within the Mormon religion. So their discussion about that can be taken quite literally given their religion.

[@thatpersonmariah3997]

Note: After you die if you want to you can move up the hierarchy, at least that’s what I was taught. Also this applies to the post second coming of Christ afterlife, as you don’t get judged until after that. What the current afterlife is never discussed.

[@salemsmith7085]

@@thatpersonmariah3997yeah but do u know how many mormons are also like “you can change easier on earth than u can when ur dead! if it takes u 2 years to change on earth it will take u thousands to change in the heavens! so dont rely on an afterlife to save u! u cant have fun in this life an expect to get into heaven by changing when ur dead!” anyways the church literally traumatized me and gave me anxiety and ocd. im glad i left bc honestly if i have to be perfect in this life to get into their white pure pedo filled heaven ill just chill with the “sinners” in mormon hell my genitals and sexuality forcefully removed and all (was told this by a leader when i came out as bisexual)

[@vibrantchill7212]

The ex Mormons I talked to about this show said they were so unsurprised about...most of it lol. Like it's crazy, but not surprising.

[@Zeplin02]

I'm a gay ex Mormon born and raised in salt lake City and I've lived how wild the Internet is for this. I know people who live these lives. My mom sent me to conversion therapy for my "struggle with same sex attraction"

[@wildfire_writer]

I’m now curious to see a Kenny JD x Swell collab talking about one of these reality shows 👀👀👀

[@AllysonWhipple]

I live under a rock and know nothing about any of these things, but I am really enjoying you telling me all about it. I like getting all the highlights without having to watch it myself.😊

[@christopherhammond5142]

Yeah, it's great not having to watch this absolute garbage but to still be able to understand the absolute madness.

[@ChewingGore]

Me: *mentally and physically exhausted from work* Amanda: *uploads video* Me: I can sleep when I’m dead I guess

[@TheAbigailDee]

The next Swell video: I Tried Joining the Church of Latter-day Saints so You Don't Have To

[@ANME1rocker]

But then you don't look into the juicy history as a member

[@AnxiousGary]

Please! The podcast Oh No Ross and Carrie did that but that was a while back and I want a fresh take on it

[@c471]

NOOOOOO! Do NOT under any circumstances *try* to join the church as a joke...or for real. They WILL stalk your social media and other publicly available info (which the church pays for accounts to find such info) in order to find out who your friends and family are and find out your address through them, without you knowing. Sincerely, The wife of a former ward clerk whose shelf broke because he was told to do the above and did NOT feel right about it.

[@paperigangsta]

​@@AnxiousGaryjust responding to recommend the podcast to others haha, they have a lot of good stuff

[@saireadsbooks]

I think one of the underlying issues with Dakota is that he wants so badly to be "normal." I think it is essential for him to have boundaries surrounding his sobriety, and in general… but he is also controlling and manipulative. I think a lot of it comes from him feeling that this is his chance at a "normal" family, and to be a "good person" again. Having a child out of wedlock would push him further into the "bad apple" stereotype he's running so hard from. I empathize with him, but that doesn't give him the right to bulldoze through Taylor's desires for a stable partnership. Taylor prioritizes her happiness over seeming like a "good girl" doing things "the right way." She contributes to their relationship's toxicity, but she has good reasons to be so hesitant, and I will automatically ride for any woman society tries to slutshame into an abusive marriage. Being a husband and a father will not automatically make Dakota's sobriety and religious struggles easier, and Taylor is under no obligation to take that bullet for him when she clearly has her own issues to address. I also think she is trying her hardest to push him away without outright ending things and being blamed, and it must still be scary for her to think about being on her own. She clearly cares about him, but I support her putting her safety and wellbeing before him.

[@pineapplepapercrafts]

The thing that made me so upset about the Whitney nicu video was my baby had to be in there for 11 days and those were the worst days of my life. The only day that was good was the second last and last one. Cuz we were told we could go home. I cannot imagine filming a tiktok while she was in there.

[@WonderfulAkari]

ExMormon, how do you forget your garments? They replace your underwear. Also shocks me that they treat divorce worse than drinking.

[@leahdavis9434]

My theory is she forgot to bring more? Like you have multiple pairs right

[@moontrasher7023]

Not an ex Mormon but from what I know, they usually wear it in addition to regular underwear

[@WonderfulAkari]

@@moontrasher7023 never heard of this. The inside of the garment is literally the undie pad for women, though I could see some doing this especially if they like period pads

[@moontrasher7023]

@WonderfulAkari I heard it from an Alyssa Grenfell video, so perhaps some did and some didn't? It would feel rather uncomfortable I give u that haha

[@c471]

I was told I could wear them over my underwear ONLY while on my period...😮‍💨 Yeah, that didn't jive with my other medical needs. So glad to be free of garments and the infections they caused.

[@synthiandrakon]

Yeah like i feel like taking them to chipendales, its like something done for content. There is an ulterior motive, you don't take your super religious friends there because you think they'll have fun

[@awhi3765]

Whitney is a weirdo. 😂 I swear I had her number from the start. The minute she got upset at someone else for having a traumatic experience at the same time she does. I knew the type of person she is was so evident. The only person who didn’t see it was Mayci.

[@ItsRainingHippos]

This feels like a facetime in which we're just gossiping and I'm here for it.

[@Raian572]

One of the most interesting things to me about this was learning about the soda thing with mormons

[@staceyann1180]

@@Raian572 You want caffeine free mountain dew? You'll find it in Utah!! My cousins all lived in Utah and I remember when they'd come and visit there were cases of bronze (Caffeine free Pepsi) soda cans packed ceiling high in the minivan!!!

[@yarlenysequirindongo9372]

Haven’t watched it yet… explain? Pls

[@justjoannak]

​@@yarlenysequirindongo9372 Alcohol isn't accessible in Utah bc Mormons aren't supposed to drink

[@yarlenysequirindongo9372]

@@justjoannak so they put alcohol in soda? That didn’t really explain much

[@rhawensilvr9725]

@@yarlenysequirindongo9372 there is a crazy soda industry in utah because it’s the go to not alcoholic beverage of choice for Mormons. They have like soda bars where you can cocktail mix syrups and stuff

[@moonlightauras1]

While watching this show I noticed that these women use the term MomTok to describe both their friend group and their brand; to them the term is fully interchangeable. I think that's what's so off-putting about it, they can't seem to distinguish the difference because they have no work life balance; their work and life are the same thing and they have no self-awareness about that.

[@chloe5065]

I think it may also have something to do with the fact that these women would not be friends organically. They are only hanging out because of Momtok, the “friendship” they have is wholly manufactured or if it is real was formed from being thrust together for clout.

[@anthaila]

I mean yeah, I don't think they are legit friends at all. Like Amanda pointed out, too, if they were friends they'd care more. At least hopefully they would. But also these kids probably haven't ever had much of a chance to be, you know, a young person starting a career and figuring themselves, even a part time one while pursuing education. They've all become mom as practically and actually teenaged kids finishing or even during their high school years. They don't have a frame of reference for work vs personal life, since you know. In a sense school is both for teens, their occupation and their personal life and friend group.

[@kingworm7168]

3:13 dancing on TikTok while you and your baby are literally in the hospital

[@justjoannak]

Yeah, that's just gross 🤮🤮

[@ahsokatano22]

100% it's being divorced. As someone who grew up in the Mormon church, divorce is such a big thing. Like I had friends whose parents were talking about divorce and the dad went and threatened self.... unalive to keep his wife. (I wish she'd leave because he sucks but I think they're still married)

[@ahsokatano22]

The emotional manipulation of Mormon dudes is so strong.... the entire culture here sucks and is why I left the church

[@toyLizbian]

I am not on TikTok and I don't understand what they do on the platform. The most fun part of this show for me is that whenever the girls infrequently mention "MomTok", whatever it is just sounds like an abstract, shared delusion. Along w their kids cause the fact that they're moms to real human children is actually such a scarcely featured part of the show. Idk why anyone's pretending that they're actually Mormon. V excited for this vid

[@vadalia3860]

I'm fine with the kids not featuring a lot, it should be illegal to show kids on reality T.V.

[@reeseg7909]

I’m a lifelong member of the LDS church, but my family is blended (divorced, remarried parents, different religions practiced in each household, lots of non-member and ex member family). My member parents don’t have the unequal power dynamics or weirdness of some of these at all, but they also didn’t marry young. I also grew up outside of Utah, so the culture I was raised in in the church is pretty different. This show is crazy, I totally see why it makes good television. I just also wanted to add my two cents that what goes for one group of people (even within the same religion) is not true for everyone. I really appreciated your handling of the topic ❤ fantastic recap

[@jessicastraw6593]

When you showed the pix of the women: girl that’s all the same person lol

[@DaniiiiPhantom]

I watched this while my partner was out of town. And now I'm making him watch it and he hates how much he loves it. They really know what they're doing with the editing and music.

[@tiffanymoss8773]

It’s funny to me that they show no one else’s last name in the diary cam parts except for Jen AFFLECK 😂

[@kittymervine6115]

wow, I do remember being a young officer's wife, and some were SO YOUNG. And husbands were gone often. Some were married at 17. (lots of Mormon moms). I just remembering sitting there with my normal friends, and getting to the point where we just popped popcorn and gossiped. Young wives, living far from family, no experience living away from mom and dad....and the older wives just "what can we do with these teenagers?" (DUI's galore from them). So I'm all in for this Wives thing, thanks!

[@aaa-ux3gi]

holy shit whitney is the mom dancing in front of her sick baby, weirdly in character for her 😭😭😭

[@yazhini5652]

Midway I stopped watching this video and binged the entire season. I have never watched any reality tv before this and now I’m hooked 😭

[@roguetaco5487]

OMG I was waiting for you to do a video on this! Also, I watched an ex-mormon YTer Alyssa Grenfell's opinion on this show. It is really interesting to hear someone formerly from that community. And she does remind us that this is all staged (to a point) and edited to make us want to "love" certain characters and "hate" others. The producers already come in with an idea of who they are going to villainize and who they aren't. Honestly if they didn't reality tv would be boring cause let's face it the more messy it is the more people will watch it.

[@KariTalks]

No desire to ever live in Utah but I would give my left toe to have one of those soda shops near me 😭

[@buttercuup02]

HONESTLY LOL

[@coolzworldd]

That nail color is gorgeous

[@maebee134]

I got an ad for this show on the video I watched before this and went “oh that looks dumb” and then this video was the next recommendation from KZbin and I was like “swell posted??? Have to watch rn”

[@Cheyscrochetshop]

I had to turn off the first episode when the domestic violence police call came into play. Triggered the heck out of me. And then I was worried for hours if she was okay but also couldn't traumatize myself to watch and see.

[@emmakatemedina]

Finally finished the show... perfect reality show, 10/10. I didn't know anything about their TikTok scandals before going in, I thought they were just influencers who happened to be Mormon making content together. But I DID see the RSV video Whitney did... the gasp I gusped when I realized that was her.

[@Bella-pb6uk]

whitney is the NICU DANCE VIDEO??? holy shit

[@neuvinas]

I love how all of these women look completely identical

[@DSR505]

ive seen that dancing video and it MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW KNOWING MORE ABOUT THIS PERSON

[@AChilly]

I believe this show is doing so well because it follows the shock-value of a “different” life. It’s why TLC did well for so long!

[@amydaskilewicz9076]

Suddenly those parody TikToks that those one girl makes (the one who says “oh my heck” and the character’s daughter is Chickenliegh) makes a lot more sense

[@emmalarson384]

I currently live in their area in Utah and it’s so surreal to see places I’ve been to knowing the drama that’s gone down there

[@hommefataltaemin]

Oh my god???? The pregnancy test in a CAKE????? That shit took me SO off guard oh my god

[@jennifermoffitt6618]

love it when i have a Swell video to fold laundry to

[@Missjacket]

I knew absolutely nothing about any of these women, and the only tictok I had seen was the RSV one before watching the show, but like you, I didnt know that was Whitney until she said it was her. I could also watch about 80 seasons of this. We need more laughing gas content tho. 😂

[@godeelofthedeep584]

Brown is my favorite color, so your outfit (what I can see of it) is immaculate, obviously; but it also perfectly compliments your background and jewelry. I just need you to know this Swell.

[@robertstanley9633]

Loved your analysis of Secret Wives of Mormon Wives. The first episode is chaotic, like you cannot make ALL that up. As a real housewife connoisseur, producers would have dreamed for this storyline and plot. Like each episode had my attention and forgot it was 45 minutes long lol

[@wyattb2012]

The way me and my ex husband are better friends that Whitney and literally any other person on that cast 😳

[@beastghostt]

21:59 this video popped into my head this morning after hearing a radio ad about the RSV vaccine and now it's here, what sorcery is this

[@oreos4843]

If yall haven't yet, you have to here about this show from the perspective of the ex mormon community on youtube (mormon stories, cults to consciousness, alyssa grenfiled, and more) It's fascinating to hear what they recognize and relate to from their experience with the religion within the show.

[@musicrulestheworld8741]

The wallpaper behind you looks fantastic. If anyone knows where sells wallpaper to hotels, I need to know

[@sashie253]

I think it might be a curtain with pleats ? Its cool tho ✨

[@AndrewBowling]

Curtain for sure, looks great

[@DesertDev]

Yes, although Jen’s husband is very wrong (I hate him) about Vegas I’m also looking at Jessi sideways. She knows how religious Jen is and to put her in that situation by “surprise” was not okay. She didn’t respect Jen’s boundaries.

[@MomtoZnE]

My son just informed me that he went to high school with Mayci. Same graduating class but he didn’t really interact with her. Looked into her a little bit and she has a pretty tragic past. I’m actually kind of surprised that she’s involved in all of this.

[@xboneyt485]

The ad threw me off cause in my state Thrive is a weed dispensary. Thought it could be a different company but same logo just replace "market" with "dispensary" 😂

[@tifinity]

There's also a thrive MLM, I thought it was that at first!

[@SpookyDeerArt]

i didn't even know about this show until this video, but i absolutely would watch a regular recap of it by you, this was a wild and entertaining video. as for other niche internet communities that should have RH style hulu shows, i want cosplayers. not the extremely professional and famous ones, the ones that are specifically 20+ and tiktok/internet famous. and even more specifically, the ones that are the most caustic to be around. i'm part of multiple nerd and fan communities, and there are absolutely people with the same weird, vibe arsenic personalities as some of the the SLMW cast-- though, potentially more sinister since fan communities online will not hesitate to doxx you over perceived transgressions, especially if someone with more followers tells them to. i want a total asshole that looks like a manic pixie dream girl and cosplays junko to start hostile fake friendship beef with people for my amusement, but i refuse to open tiktok anymore.

[@X_millennial]

The raiting of how Mormon are you is just how it is being LDS in Utah. They don't know that's wierd

[@MauriceFloreise]

The Thrive ad hair is THRIVING 🤩 Looking fabulous. Also love the vid :)

[@bayleighganion]

this has all ive been consuming ao im glad ur making a video 😭😭

[@MidoriAmae]

Hunny! The curly hair in the TM ad is beautiful! Love the look 💚

[@avamolinaro5559]

OMG mentioning housewives of NJ! I was on that show for 1 second :) the episode where they do the arthritis art class fundraiser on the girl in the blue sweater and floral skirt assisting with stuff!!!!

[@Sco341]

I've never seen or even heard about this it, but your summerizing of this show was like watching it for real and skipping all the fillers lol Weirdly entertaining, thank you 😂

[@Alexis.Morgan_YT]

Amanda this was not on my bingo card to see u cover this but I am so happy u are lol

[@hilarious557rox]

“what is this, a girl scout meeting?” killed me

[@pedroedrodroroo366]

You need to hear the mormons episodes of the "16 minutes of fame" podcast

[@taranburnite6520]

The only way I want to consume "Real Housewives" and other similar reality TV is through your explanations lol.

[@brendankane6969]

Reality TV is like anime. You watch it for the fight scenes! Lol.

[@ebonyalexis32]

the wall with your eyes and then that sweater ?!! 😍❤️ the colors are just making me so happy loll bliss

[@c471]

I haven't seen the show, but from how you are recount the chip and dales situation, I can give some context. In mormonism, they taught us (circa 2011...it changes depending on the year) to ALWAYS wear the garments unless swimming. She might have had slighty different rules around them since leadership is trying to keep the women of the Church active and garments have caused infections for us, so they have updated some things. The church also taught us that the garments help us remember the promises we made with God in the temple, and help the Holy Ghost be with us. So, if Jen is super devout, she likely was having a panic attack due to thinking that she was letting Satan in by 1. forgetting her garments and 2. even going to that establishment. Who knows what the reality show contract mandates her to do in order to collect the money to provide for her family, so that may have also factored into her panic and not knowing how to get out of the situation.

[@c471]

And the emotional manipulation within the church itself and seemingly Jen's marriage is so horrible. In Mormonism, divorce basically makes you a social outcast... "No one wants a half eaten cookie or chewed gum" were the chastity lessons for us as teenagers. In Mormonism, a threat of divorce is a threat to not only take the kids away in this life, but also in the next life. Men can be sealed in the temple to multiple women (such as after divorce or his wife dies), but women can only be sealed to one man, meaning they have to choose who their children would be sealed to- their biological father, or their new husband.

[@emanthekind2140]

I’m glad I have you and Alyssa Grenfell to watch about this show, because god I cannot stand it, these people are so infuriating, I had to stop watching after the second episode 😂

[@IkeyCaptain]

I've never seen this show before, or even heard of it in my life, so when you flashed their profiles on the screen one after the other I legitimately thought it was multiple pictures of the same person until the one black haired woman lmao

[@Drea____ming]

ive rewatched the show like 2 times now because its so ridiculous, I also think knowing know that Jessie isn't actually Mormon anymore makes it really interesting to see her actions on the show and other peoples thoughts towards her

[@etilworg]

The most weird part was "They live things: marraige, prregnancy , divorce "

[@winterburden]

Thanks for this swell video Swell!

[@antonia1156]

WHITNEY IS THE DANCING NEXT TO HER BABY LADY???? no way i caaaaan‘t 😭😭😂😂😂

[@allisonbaby7477]

Just wanted to say your hair looked FABULOUS during that ad read.

[@degduf]

ur hair looked so good in the ad read towards the start omg swell im blushing