stripping down Liam Payne's interview

[@kyrasaturn]

Honestly Liam was quite impressive in this interview. Managed to be in a room with Logan Paul and still be the most obnoxious person there.

[@shasha_says]

I thought the same 😂

[@starskyei]

😂😂this needs more likes

[@barneythedinosaur8044]

YO-

[@getmeouttahere98]

honestly, we gotta give it to him

[@jupitersecIipse]

yikes, i guess he did accomplish something now

[@franzenjonas]

I love being a Niall stan, no drama at all, just good music

[@velcroshrimp]

It’s very nice

[@netshwlanconnect]

except when he cheated on hailee steinfeld 2 years ago

[@cawesomewhatever]

Me. 😁Niall is my boy, and I love Harry and Louis. I just love how Harry has come so far and really shows his true personality. Louis is great still even if he hasn’t been putting out much. 😁

[@imconfuseded]

I didn't realize theybwere different until this debacle

[@Naahi95]

@@netshwlanconnect He didn't lmao

[@Allonsy305]

Liam has pissed off the 1D fandom for YEARS. He has a laundry list of BS he said to the public; The Duck Dynasty tweet, how he said pride flags made him uncomfortable bc they had to do with Larry (when they clearly don't), the lyrics for "Both Ways", talking about how he wouldn't let Harry babysit his kid then having that weird obsession with him, constantly bringing up the idea of a reunion and then telling the world that other members told him to be quiet about that, having terrible music overall, he's been a mess. And him having the nerve to bring up Zayn's upbringing wasn't at all needed. He was set up to be the leader of 1D, until Harry & Zayn pretty much took that spotlight.

[@MS-wh7ec]

Have never been into the 1D fandom so didn’t know any of this and OH MY LORD the pride flag thing 😭😭😭 that is so embarrassing

[@AM-em5gc]

I also don’t follow 1D, is Larry someone in One Direction?

[@Allonsy305]

@@AM-em5gc this conspiracy that Harry and Louis are dating, the whole group was aware of it.

[@Littlepinkietoe]

@@AM-em5gc it’s a ship of harry and louis but also a ship of harry and liam idk which one this person is referring to

[@erikdaniels0n]

Why would he have an issue with Larry when the ship was Louis and Harry???

[@lucyinthesky1991]

“What kind of media training did you have, and why did you ignore it to do this interview?” 😂

[@isleoflovers]

I do think Niall is actively still friends with the 5sos guys. He has supported them publicly and gone to many of their shows after 1D (including to a 5SOS show I went too lol) not super important to the video but i think it's v sweet

[@sarasthoughts]

Niall has always been the sweetest member

[@skzanarchist]

niall has always been a really sweet person and actually cares for the people he worked with

[@jennshine8777]

I knew Niall was my favorite for a reason!!

[@nicoledemers98]

Lowkey Niall is the most underrated member of 1D

[@nicoledemers98]

Also his solo music is fantastic and nobody talks about it

[@stonecake313]

So he thought he’d be Nicole Scherzinger and the boys would be his Pussycat Dolls

[@laline_aaa]

this sent me so bad 😭

[@angie_exe]

Yes, literally exactly that.

[@dw7896]

See the issue with that is that Nicole actually had the it factor to pull that off, Liam never did

[@mitchierainbow7353]

I'm sorry but this comment is so funny😂😂😂

[@pratyushpavansaikia8161]

@Sara Moustamandi don't know whether I should thank you or hate you for putting that image

[@vashmahtehreem1689]

I love being a Niall stan. Bestie had a major glow up, is funny, makes amazing music and is literally nice to everyone. Zero drama.

[@catbarr924]

Oh me and you girl, being a Niall and Harry stan is just peace and quiet and amazing music

[@steff6146]

I love being a Niall girl. No problems, just vibes

[@katecollins2471]

Biggest glow up for sure

[@youre_totally_right_but_]

true until now

[@patatoe558]

@@youre_totally_right_but_ what's up now

[@Snakejorts]

From someone who has had family members who are addicts, and is British, I find his "typical English lad" comment about substance abuse really concerning. We have a toxic drinking culture here, and I hate when celebrities present unruly behaviour under the influence as being quirky, or something to be expected of them. Like no, your behaviour is not normal, do not present it as such?

[@bonjouritsready]

‘Drinking bad’ 🙄 get over it mate, we don’t have a toxic drinking culture. It IS normal to do things like that as a young adult. The vast majority do, just because you might not of, doesn’t mean you can just brandish the whole culture as ‘toxic’ (everyones favourite, overused word)

[@Snakejorts]

@@bonjouritsready do you work in A and E? Because I think you would change your mind very quickly

[@bonjouritsready]

@@Snakejortsand? The majority of people who drink don’t end up in A and E.

[@DogNamedWatson]

@@bonjouritsready They're not saying "drinking bad," they're saying the culture of binge drinking is unhealthy, which is fact. It's also fact that living in a society where heavy drinking is normalized, encouraged, and expected is dangerous, which is why, for example, many college-aged students, especially those in fraternities and sororities, get alcohol poisoning.

[@bonjouritsready]

@@DogNamedWatson if binge drinking was referenced, I’d agree, but it wasn’t. Suggesting that young adults, especially in university, are all binge drinkers and partake in ‘toxic’ drinking culture is just naive. That’s the exact age where alcohol is legal and accessible (parties etc). Only a fraction of this group ever go so far as to get serious alcohol poisoning, it’s like saying everyone with a car will get into a crash. It’s pure hyperbole.

[@sparshitasahu2539]

So we,as a society are gonna ignore the fact that Zayn clearly wasn't comfortable being on Jake's vlog and refused,but Jake kept pestering him,to a point where Zayn got irritated and got mad, making Jake tweet shit about him, gigi giving him the perfect response and then Liam shitting on it like it's his business?

[@McDonaldsFoodCritic]

Literally‼️

[@alexbennet4195]

…sorry what has this got to do with “we, as a society”?

[@amusingkiwi1981]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@CyberStockholmSyndrome]

As a former Liam girl that is ALSO bisexual, I have been having a terrible time. I was one of the few people who genuinely loved Liam and rooted for him when he announced that he was going solo. And then the music came out and it was just constant disappointment. I was always under the impression that Zayn and Liam had a great relationship post-hiatus. With all the time that’s passed, it’s clear he feels a form of jealousy towards Zayn and Harry for the attention they got when they were teens. Some people have already said this, but there is a LITTLE bit of truth to what Liam said about being “The Face” of 1D. In the beginning he was very much the one with the most solos and was always front and center. And then they noticed how much attention Harry and Zayn got from the fans, and he got pushed to the background a little bit. In terms of attention during their official debut, it was Harry, Zayn, Liam, Louis, and Niall. I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon told him what he wanted to hear to get him to sign on to the group. Like “Oh it’ll just be for a little while, then you can go solo and be everything you wanted to be!“ He says he’s going to therapy. Mmmmm….I don’t know that he is. He’s been deeply insecure for as long as he’s been in the public eye, and it’s clear that hasn’t changed.

[@JulietteReacts]

Enjoyed your comment! Just regarding the bit about not being sure whether he actually is in therapy or not… honestly I don’t feel like he’s introspective or self aware enough to come up with the “teenagers are meant to experience freedom” thing himself.

[@kateginger]

I agree so much, Liam was also my favourite. It's sad to see him take that road when he was so talented, back then I would have never imagined that's what he'd become . About the therapy comment, even Amber Heard went to therapy for many years and is still very toxic and dangerous. For some people therapy seems to take longer or have less or no results (especially the ones with narcissism don't seem to change much, but maybe I'm just stereotyping).

[@Rico401Prov]

All girls are bisexual

[@LB-ih7hn]

@@JulietteReacts Liam’s always been a little unpredictable in interviews, he can say the most introspective thing and then the weirdest thing in the same breath, he even does it on livestreams, which are unedited, so clearly that is a part of him. But this is one of the reasons why I love him. Personally, every single negative thing that folk say he’s done, when I’ve researched it I’ve been mystified by how the real events have been misrepresented and misinterpreted to negative effect, so I’m still his fan. But I think he needs help, which at this point can only come from him. So I’m not gonna go onto some SM platform and ridicule him or add to the hate he’s already receiving and I won’t unfollow him etc… I’m just gonna watch, pray and hope with all my heart that he finds whatever he needs to pull himself out of his addiction. Because if he doesn’t manage this the addiction will destroy his life.

[@sweetj.creates2429]

Liam fan as well and yea, these recent things has all just been so disappointing. Just hope he does go to therapy and maybe solve stuff and understand exactly what he has been saying and doing, w/c as you pointed out is coming from a place of insecurities.

[@DeeL3]

I'm not against him. I'm not with him. All I know is he's like a real life version of Mr. Schuester.

[@alyssavocadoo]

And that says A LOT.

[@nogirlIonlyusevenmo]

OH NO- 😭

[@wuraolaolagunju]

Good Lord, why does this make sense?!

[@hilpar405]

Hahahahahahha this comment has made my day, amazing

[@YourMomSVT]

This actually made me laugh out loud THE ACCURACY 😭😭

[@krudoesstuff]

Liam commenting on Zayn's upbringing seems microaggressive, almost. And yes, people have told me I'm reaching or trying to make things racial but as someone from a desi family who knows that support can look very different in brown families compared to white families I just find it very angering that he assumed something even though he probably doesn't know his family at all while in the same breath boasting about his family is "so overly supporting its almost annoying".

[@stanen]

damn haven't heard microaggresion since 2015. you mean to tell me he spent 5 years around the world with Zayn and never picked up how he was raised what his beliefs are how his parents are?

[@krudoesstuff]

@@stanen that man didn't pick up that most of his fanbase is lgbtq+ , doubt he picked up anything about z's family

[@stanen]

@@krudoesstuff y'all dont pick up harry is a queerbaiting zionist but you won't admit that lmao

[@jj-if6it]

It's so rude to talk about another person's parents upbringing

[@cawesomewhatever]

I feel you should never comment on someone’s upbringing because it almost always negative and you weren’t there so you shouldn’t be committing on it, but that’s what I think.

[@clara-rq9my]

him commenting on zayn's upbringing is so dirty cause zayn himself said he has a very supportive family. considering liam's "history" with comments with racist undertones aimed at asian ethnicities, it comes off really ugly when he starts criticizing the family structure of someone who has a muslim family. also, the things he said about kpop were really xenophobic. like if those groups weren't competition just cause they're asian and despite looking down on these groups he didn't hesitate to talk about bts on his live in order to get clout which is pretty pathetic considering that 1. it didn't even work and 2. he doesn't really respect them as artists. edit: grammar mistake

[@jashanmehra2345]

Please tell me what he said about kpop I am an army I want to know

[@keanureeves666]

Hello gorgeous Thanks for the utmost love and moral support, from the bottom of my heart I appreciate you for being a wonderful fan😍

[@roseclouds5838]

kinda weird about kpop because they were in competition with groups for several awards and even lost

[@keanureeves666]

@@roseclouds5838 Seriously?

[@roseclouds5838]

@@keanureeves666 I mean yeah mostly european or latin music awards or and stuff but I doubt they cared

[@Dinap2001]

I totally agree with you on Logan missing an opportunity to ask questions. I don’t think anyone cares about Liam’s skincare routine. A girl or someone with a different perspective on set would make for some more interesting questions

[@alex_bee]

Or like an actual 1D fan :') someone who would lead the interview competently and knowing what they're talking about

[@alex_bee]

not defending Liam, but like...why on Logan's podcast of all ppl? XD

[@Tots_]

@@alex_bee because hes desperately trying to stay relevant so hes taking what he can get lmao

[@alex_bee]

@@Tots_ this is too damn depressing - like I understand the business viewpoint of doing this as an artist trying to stay on top of trends, but also it’s like postponing something that will inevitably happen and deep down he knows it :’) Ig any publicity is good publicity to him, as long as he’s talked about hah

[@biazacha]

@@alex_bee the dozen folks that will play his song or MVs to compare with Harry’s songs is more cash than he would make otherwise tbh

[@luadonadon4872]

Liam has been flying under the radar for so long with his *slightly* homophobic lyrics i've always been uncomfortable with him... i remember it was always so obvious to me that liam's personality would crash with harry's openness regarding sexuality & gender and defiance of the toxic masculinity. idk he's gross and i'm glad people are finally catching up on that.

[@ellaelliott4415]

He once said he wouldn’t let “someone like Harry” watch his son, Bear. Also why BEAR?! What’s up with famous people naming their kids crazy stuff??

[@SolarisMusic]

@@ellaelliott4415 it's so ironic to me that he named his kid bear and is homophobic

[@davidmaxwell4696]

@@ellaelliott4415 In all fairness to his son's name, *all* names are literally just objects or animals or feelings. English speakers just tend to use names from other languages so its not as obvious. Arthur, for example, is a Celtic name and also means bear.

[@mj7087]

Liam is the poster boy of "diet homophobia"

[@debbydee6633]

@@davidmaxwell4696 I think bear is such a cute name lol

[@sseraphim2818]

You're definitely right about the identifying with Tony Stark ringing bells. If you know, you know.

[@zpizzas]

@@BooksRebound yeah, like the thinking that he’s the stuff

[@Texas-girll]

They always idolize tony how he was before becoming ironman and learning the errors of his ways. Dude outright stopped weapons manufacturing, the thing that made him so unbelievably rich, because he saw first hand the harm he was causing.

[@trinketeerrine6674]

@@BooksRebound Yeah, it's a mixture of the "self-made" superhero billionnaire genius with the rockstar/cool guy attitude who changed the world and is idolized blindly by everybody but who also think that he doesn't owe anything to anybody basically. People who identify with this image tend to ignore all the flaws of the character and all his wrongs and all the harm he's done and don't identify with his developement/taking accountability throughout the movies.

[@kata7628]

Tony Stark is an *imaginary* *superhero*. It’s like saying “I’m like Thor.” Sure the narcissist thing is pretty damning, but the main thing to me is he’s impossibly larger-than-life because he’s literally fictional. No. You’re not like a billionaire superhero. No.

[@trinketeerrine6674]

@@kata7628 It sounds ridiculous and yet... I've seen people like that identify mostly with either Tony Stark or Batman and I think it has to do with the fact that both of them are still human, they were not born with superpowers or underwent a mutation/transformation, they technically don't have superpowers and rely on accessories and technology. A former friend of mine identified way too much with Batman, he wouldn't take any criticism at all and thought his role was to protect and defend his loved ones and that he could never show "weakness" (i.e : Never rely on anyone for emotional support and completely disregard his own trauma) and ended up being abusive towards his girlfriend and his cat. Of course he never took any accountability for this. He wanted to be like Batman but on such a superficial level that he completely missed the point of the character and the messages within the stories flew right above his head... The dissonance between how he saw himself and how he really was is scary...

[@augustlunaonline]

What I learned from that interview is that there are a particular type of men who are lack self awareness and don’t realized they are very insecure but know enough that they need to conform to the certain standards of masculinity to be “successful in life” by having a major ego and they all found their way onto a podcast together.

[@jj-if6it]

this is going to sound mean but he honestly comes across a bit slow and sheltered or uneducated and lacks self awareness

[@sophiawhite4251]

@@jj-if6it I think he was always a people pleaser who wanted to conform to expectations to succeed, and that was only made worse by being given the role of the ‘masculine’ and ‘tough’ member of the band. He wanted so desperately to fit in that it is likely his personality got strongly influenced.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

They should all be besties and do this every week so we can hear all the juicy bits. Trust me when I say that this is not for nefarious reasons *wink* *wink*

[@LB-ih7hn]

@@jj-if6it He doesn’t come across like that on the Steven Bartlett podcast, which was even longer than this one. He also doesn’t come across that way on Jack Mates Happy Hour podcast. He clearly likes podcasts, it’s just this latest one was the wrong podcast to appear on. Feeding an alcohol addicted guest alcohol throughout an interview was never gonna end well for the guest. I still love Liam though.

[@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701]

what i learned from this comment is theres a certain type of young girl/woman that educates herself on how life is based on feminist twitter from people with miserable lives. how does this have anything to do with masculinity

[@donttalktomebye]

This video is a perfect example of critical and constructive analysis where you show compassion and empathy while also calling out the red flags in things. You're always so good at these Amanda. I'd have a fucking amazing time being your friend because I LOVE this shit. I never cared for 1D but this was fascinating. I do have a lot of sympathy for Liam and what he has been through. It doesn't excuse his shitty behavior and possible racism/actual homophobia, however i can see how the trauma from his rise to stardom could have fucked him up so much

[@thetruth830]

I definitely don't approve of Liam's actions, but I do have sympathy for him. He's had issues with alcoholism in the past - I distinctly remember a moment where he didn't want to do a magazine shoot because he'd have to take off his clothing and the people doing the shoot convinced him to drink until he was intoxicated enough that he agreed to do it. And he's obviously relapsed and broken his sobriety which is terrible in and of itself, given his obvious trauma from alcohol and just the past situations in general. I hope for his sake and the sake of those around him, he gets help.

[@sophieb-m1472]

Amanda analysis and comments also separates facts from theories or speculations. It’s a good sign of quality when that distinction is clear

[@urmur]

I agree - great analysis. I did want her to talk more about his substance abuse and how it affected his career overall, but maybe that's not something she's comfortable talking about.

[@granolaman4410]

he never said harry dressing made him not want to be around his son. he just said that harry has changed a lot and for that reason he wouldnt want him etc. i mean even what he said in this interview is all being twisted to talk about how successful harry is. he comes across very stuck in the past and arrogant to even say these things but its not that bad

[@d__x2555]

Perfectly put, I really enjoy how she's not just purely shitting on him but also not letting his bad behaviour slide necessarily, I think she's a well-balanced speaker for sure

[@topaz_no_life9440]

honestly if liam did say something racially motivated towards zayn and harry shoved him, i would not be surprised at either of them. liam has done and said many many problematic things throughout the years (even before one direction broke up) and it’s honestly bonkers to see how the fandom excused and defended his blanant homophobia for YEARS but like, as soon as he says something silly on a podcast, everyone is all over him. it really just goes to show how the morals of the one direction fandom have stayed rigid throughout the years. i have been a member of the 1d fandom for, like, 12 years and this situation honestly could have happened 6 years ago and i think many of the fans would have reacted the same.

[@thatrandomchick4004]

As a women of color if it turns out to be true, I’d just simp for Harry more if he put Liam in his place.

[@ellaelliott4415]

I never defended him, I’ve always found him self-centred and rude. I’ve been a fan for years too, and I wish I could say Liam’s comments on this podcast shocked me but none of them did. He’s so rude

[@Echoingsunflowers981]

Wouldn’t surprise me

[@jwmtlmb]

You saying bonkers brought me back to creepshowart lmaoo

[@noavm4090]

yeah harry being all pro-israel while zayn tweeted in support of palestine... and you want me to believe harry would defend zayn from liam's 'racism' when he never defended zayn from his own fans lmao

[@holybird0079]

This is why I follow people like you and Jenny Nicholson and Sarah Z etc. Internet (or pop) culture stuff/events that I have absolutely 0 awareness of but know all the players participating. So interesting

[@ampersandcastle1091]

The holy trinity of content!!

[@breeb2638]

Me clicking on this video being like "whos going on with what now?". No idea why I care but I love the Goss.

[@Alikaoz]

Same, except I don't know anyone involved. I'm just here for the ride.

[@rebelks88]

@@Alikaoz ikr? Makes excellent background listening while getting other things done

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

@@breeb2638 I love drama that I don't actually have a stake in I'm not even remotely a fan of anyone involved and yet here I am, watching a half hour video because of that juicy drama

[@representationmetaphorique]

Liam drinking throughout thé interview is concerning bc he’s expressed his issues with alcoholism in the past 😖

[@ossswin]

my thoughts exactly

[@carolineelizabeth9125]

He also only has (had??) one kidney so he’s not supposed to drink

[@xoxocessa]

@@carolineelizabeth9125 i always forget he only has one kidney... that's insane that he admitted he was an alcoholic and continues to drink like that.

[@istilldontknowmyname7324]

@@xoxocessa addiction is a horrible desease

[@urmur]

I'm pretty sure he's doing coke now too

[@andic8126]

I feel so bad for 1D fans , their faves literally hate each other. So disheartening to realize the “family” vibe was marketing only.

[@carolineelizabeth9125]

It’s heartbreaking. All of the things we thought about them and their relationships with each other has turned out to be wrong. We really thought they were one big happy family. I hope that Harry and Niall are still friendly.

[@princepeach4190]

Samee. As a kpop fan, I dread the day a group I like breaks up and we find out down the line that they actually all hated each other :/

[@clarissachang2358]

@@carolineelizabeth9125 I think they are. They were spotted having a barbecue once tgt a year ago

[@kamilas3683]

I don't think it's just marketing. I have never been a huge fan of 1D, but I am fascinated by their story and observe their solo careers. I watched hundreds of interviews with them - this friendship was not pretended. They really liked each other. But you have to remember that they were very young and what was happening around them was also a difficult experience. I think each of them is reacting to it in their own way now.

[@loftyradish6972]

@@princepeach4190 I feel like the ones we can have confidence in being friends are the ones that do live streams while drinking alcohol. Take BTS, they get drunk together on video on a semi regular basis and all that happens is Yoongi turns cute instead of tsundere, Hobi goes bright red and quiet, and they all just cackle about the weird sh*t they have gotten up to over the years. If they secretly hated each other, they wouldn't risk drinking alcohol where fans could see in case they forgot about their best friend act and started arguing or fighting.

[@littlemissladybird13]

Everyone seems to be reacting to the 1D/Zayn portion of the interview, which I get, but I feel like the stuff he’s said about Bear, and Cheryl especially, was extremely disrespectful. Full disclosure, I am a huge Cheryl fan. Her and Liam have agreed to keep Bear’s life as private as possible, which I support no question. So, in light of this, why are we being told that Cheryl haemorrhaged while giving birth? Who needs to know that? That is private, medical information that did not need to be shared, and given everything, I doubt Cheryl would want shared. Then the details of him showing up at their house to take Bear to school. Ok, fine, again, not something we need to know but it’s pretty minor. But then what he says Bear told him about it being “the biggest surprise of his life”? You know what that tells me? That Liam very rarely is present. A child of five doesn’t say that his dad showing up for something he regularly does (taking him to school) is a surprise, of any sort. He’s revealing himself to be an absent father, and dressing it up by praising Cheryl for letting him do what he wants. And then onto the comments that having a child is what broke them up. What. The. F*ck? He really said that with his whole chest. While in reality that may be true, does Bear need to hear that from his DAD?! Imagine being that child in a few years time, having access to the internet, and watching your father tell millions of people that you are the reason your parents split up. Yet more stuff for Cheryl to deal with at the time because we all know he’s not gonna be around to help with the inevitable, emotional fallout that will follow this. I’ve never been a fan of Liam, and this interview has turned me off him completely. He is acting half his age, with no regard for how his words affect those closest to him, in particular. I hope he learns to shut up and stop sharing things about a child that he’s claiming to keep private, and by extension, his mother.

[@TheDaniela3112]

God it's like Liam dropped a bomb with this interview, not in the sense of shocking information but in the sense of how many people he mentioned and that this might have repercussions for

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

Thanks so much for sharing this. As someone who didn’t watch the whole interview and just seen people talking about it, this information is shocking and it surprised me how everyone has left this out. Also didn’t know they named their child “Bear”

[@McDonaldsFoodCritic]

We ignored that part because nobody cares about that perv cheryl

[@abigailhardy1446]

Here in Oct 2024. Your words “Yet more stuff for Cheryl to deal with because we all know he’s not gonna be around to help with the inevitable emotional fallout that will follow this” - rings true. I think Liam was spiraling out of control and my heart goes out to him. But the little boy left behind will also be scarred from this. Prayers to him and the family. 😢

[@cjboyo]

Christ i didn’t know he had a kid :/

[@caitie8921]

Idk he said in the interview that he and Louis are friends now but he also said they hated each other early on and if anyone one in the band was likely throw hands I would bet on Louis.

[@dwicghvma9998]

I remember that Liam mentioned (on the This is us movie) that he argued a lot with Louis, they tried to show is as silly bickering but I always felt that it was more serious, so yeah I wouldnt be surprised either

[@buisnessgetusum12]

He is not scared to say louis or zayns names, so I don't think so. He knows better than to speak on harry tho, so I believe it was harry.

[@justplainizzy]

I think him and louis have mentioned that they started getting along after they started writing songs together so i don't think it was him if anything it was harry or zayn (but they remind friends after z left)

[@lindagreens9140]

Louis and Liam are friendship goaaaaals,they are the only genuine friendship in that band now you know.

[@cosmicsugarbunny1832]

I was a huge 1D fan waaayyy back in the day, and I remembered Liam being the “leader” at least in the beginning. He along with Zayn and Harry got the most solos on their first album. Liam (I think) had all of the starting verses on that album. So this might have been where his ego stems from. I was always a Harry fan and Liam was my least favorite. Liam just makes me cringe. It’s just sad now cause it’s obvious he’s trying to go back to his 1D days…

[@ira_1991]

Liam and Harry coexist when it comes to Verses and Choruses esp the first 3 albums.

[@TheMeiikaification]

Daddy direction

[@neutralman9124]

Liam Payne has always been a dumpster fire of a person. Also, "Strip That Down" is the BLANDEST song I've maybe ever heard.

[@xoxocessa]

sounds like a song you'd hear at target at like 3 am. lmfao

[@nacuyong]

@@xoxocessa lmao

[@LKTori]

Both ways is terrible too, as a bi girl, its not offensive…but its so bland n boring 😭

[@urmur]

It's an Ed Sheeran song btw

[@neutralman9124]

@@urmur Well, that's the worst thing he's ever written then..

[@starfish0607]

liam has phases where he seems to be doing fine and then he starts drinking and he spirals. he has been on 2 other podcasts and he seemed to be a lot nicer and insightful in those. in his diary of a ceo podcast, he even mentions his drinking problem. his relationships also seem to have problems once he starts drinking again. i hope he gets the help he needs.

[@bella-lm4gn]

It may be as simple as this

[@TheDaniela3112]

While I do recognise some of his actions and the things he's said are problematic, I still care about him so so much and want to see him succeed and be happy. Rooting for Liam!

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

Even with the drinking problem, it still doesn’t change what he’s said over the years. I think the problem is that when he drinks he reveals things about himself that he has hidden with years of media training. So in the end, when he’s sober he’s not showing how he actually feels/thinks, we are seeing a “fake” Liam, one that has been train on what to say and how to please people. But when he starts drinking, his defenses are low and well, he’s not in all 5 senses and we end up seeing the real him and people are confuse as to why he’s acting that way when in reality, that’s probably how he is when there aren’t any cameras around.

[@Rebe8d89AH]

I lost any respect for Liam and Cheryl after finding out they named their poor child Bear Payne. 'Bare' is slang for 'lots of' in England so I can't hear that name without cringing. Also over the years Liam has given me 'lad' vibes, if any of you have watched Heartstopper, the character called Harry in the show is what I imagine is Liam's internal voice is like. 'I'm not being homophobic but..' Also, I definitely took issue with his relationship with Cheryl, going from a mentor figure to dating is a bit sus. I feel like in a lot of ways this dude wasn't able to grow up in a healthy way.

[@shineinstars]

lots of payne (pain) lmfaoooo

[@worstusernameintheworld9871]

@@shineinstars that's exactly how I feel whenever I hear his child's name

[@seliamila1005]

Tbh i think bear is a cute name... And Liam is always reeking of jealousy 🤣

[@Rebe8d89AH]

@@seliamila1005 Bear is a cute name, I guess. It's just unfortunate with his surname 😭

[@omo8150]

@@Rebe8d89AH I just realised that means the child name is Bear Payne : …. [Lots of ] Payne or ‘pain’…, since Bear means lots of 😢😢😢

[@Tinyholly]

As someone who went to high school with half of 5sos, was in the same year as Callums sister and hearing about them through when my sis hung out with them it's always pretty funny when you talk about them. It's like hearing your favourite tv actor gush about your neighbour

[@Oceaniac]

That’s how I feel about Zayn

[@caffe1n8ed]

@@Oceaniac what-

[@MaddyPerez128]

@@Oceaniac you can’t just comment that and not elaborate. Wdym

[@nikitanair6566]

@@Oceaniac we need answers yo!!

[@m._6566]

@@Oceaniac miss gurl u need to explain urself here, cant just leave us hanging like this

[@neverlandnights]

I love that the argument for Niall not pushing Liam against the wall back then is... "well look at him"

[@StephenJHolloway]

You can clearly see that he has a very bad attitude just from the way that he presents himself, he's very cocky. I would say "fame" went to his head and made him a bit of a b*llend. Hes defo ruined his rep that's for sure.

[@nameisamine]

I still can’t believe y’all actually made “Strip That Down” popular. I always thought that was a terrible song. It legit sounded like a rejected Justin Timberlake demo, as well as seeming so left-field because Liam never gave me r&b vibes. His solo career always seemed like a tryhard cash-grab with ZERO artistic integrity. A least the others had some sense of identity on their solo material - liams music was utterly soulless.

[@TheMonicaAlison]

For me it felt jarring especially after Harry’s solo career had more alternative vibes and what felt like true artistry. Zayns solo career, while his music wasn’t always my type, at least showed off his vocal talents more.

[@lxlx7941]

TBH Niall and Louis has better music than him- (At least Louis is putting idk his heart on it (literally JFJDJDJDKD) Liam songs just feels…idk dead? I don’t hear any soul or heart put on it. He feels like a robot-)

[@jennym7786]

when his album (finally) came out the only track i genuinely enjoyed listening to was "remember" and even that isn't outstanding lol. it's pretty basic, but listenable. like it could've had potential to be a successful radio single but i don't think it's a career defining song. and yet that song was literally the only song off of his 18 track album i could even stomach. also the fact that it took 2 years to finally release his debut album and he had the gall to name it LP1. like what title is that? that's the file name you give it in the board meeting before you come up with the name, not the official debut album title. i also didn't understand why his debut sexed up r&b pop album ended with a random forgettable cheesy christmas song? it was such a confusing career move since that christmas song was neither sexy or in any way relevant to his album's vibe/theme lol. he has no specific direction or genre he's taking his career in. with the other guys i know exactly what type of artist they're trying to be but with him it's just a smorgasbord of personalities/costumes

[@_jolie_]

@@jennym7786 his album ends with a christmas song???

[@chloebrown9106]

It’s an awful song just like slow hands (no offense Nial fans I prefer his other songs) but at least slow hands sounds like there was a little more thought put into it. Strip that down fits the style of the really poppy songs that were popular at the time but it was still just an objectively bad song that I can’t believe anyone would listen to if they weren’t at a dance or a club

[@colette2529]

people speculating about the shoving situation and pitching reasons why it happened really feels like 2010-era fandom nonsense to me. Unless someone who was there said something about Liam saying something racially insensitive about Zayne and Harry pushing Liam to defended him, it just feels like fanfiction. Not saying that I don't believe Liam would say something like that, or that Harry would have a problem with it, or anything like that, but there are a million reasons why something could've happened AND with the way Liam told the story with his ~cool one liner~ implies to me that the whole situation may be pretty exaggerated. (I'm also not doubting that there was a spat bc they were all very famous, very young men stuck together for hours of the day for years, and Liam seems really annoying lol)

[@thelexicon7294]

1000% Tumblr-era imagine-posting

[@mj7087]

it was probably one of those "teenagers being stupid" fights where harry gave him like, a shoulder check as he walked away and now Liams acting like they were moments away from throwing hands

[@alex_bee]

@@mj7087 I know right!! Or said something snarky and Liam’s gonna remember it for the rest of his life now :’)

[@joyisntfunny]

especially since Harry was 16-18, like if anyone in that band would've bodied someone for saying some shit, it would've been Louis

[@mj7087]

@@joyisntfunny tbf Harry was 23 when the band broke up and from everything zayn and Liam have talked about in various interviews it sounds like there was more conflict later in the band’s run. Idk i just kinda feel like since 19+yo Harry was the only one even close to Liam’s fitness(?) level, how they never seemed to interact, how Liam’s quoted saying Harry in his opinion is the “scariest” when angry, and especially how Harry’s really the only one Liam never feels comfortable airing dirty laundry about, I understand why most people seem to think Liam was talking about Harry. I just doubt it was for anything heroic like so many ppl fantasize. More likely they just had an argument and acted on their egos.

[@skeletonizer9529]

I think the thing about this interview is that it's a culmination of all of his time in and since 1D. Liam had always been the least favorite, the least recognizable to non-fans, and since the end of the band he's been the least successful with the worst music. In the past couple years he's spent so much time banking off of the band, talking about them in interviews to drum up hype and that's been very annoying to a lot of fans. We know there's not going to be a reunion, but he won't stop talking about the band. It's disappointing but not surprising.

[@kayk480]

He reminds me of those people who were popular in high school but then never amounted to anything afterward, while everyone went off to do great things and live happy lives. So they start hyping themselves up to convince others (but mostly themselves) that they’re amazing and successful.

[@gb8740]

A topic that I found really ridiculous in the interview was Liam’s endless claims that he is a wonderful father while every story he shared seemed the complete opposite! Lol

[@MagisterialVoyager]

interestingly, all the famous people i take as "good dad" don't even say that. they just said things like "oh, as long as my son loves the movie i starred in, that's all that matters" (Tom Hardy on 'Venom') and the fact that Liam has to claim that he's a wonderful father is a... quite off to me. i don't hear great people saying how great they are. they're just great-ing silently, hahaha.

[@MackenzieNoelle]

Liam comes across as a man desperately trying to appear cool to men he perceives as cool and successful and masculine. I’m sure being a part of one direction, a group which received a lot of ridicule for being “for teen girls”, could have entrenched Liam further into toxic masculinity and deepened his insecurities. Logan Paul is exactly the kind of person who would have shit on 1D in the past and I think it’s interesting that Liam has been collaborating with him, I wonder if he feels he has something to prove

[@ELoouise323]

I agree with all of this! I was shocked when Liam was on Logan’s show because Logan seems like he would not be about that at all, but toxic masculinity gonna toxic masculinity

[@jonash95]

Logan and Liam seemed as the most incompatible pair of people you could put together on a screen and yet they did it... It marked the definite downfall of Liam's career 😢

[@Greg-vx5uo]

It’s quite obvious the attention Liam is seeking from doing this interview. It’s always seemed clear to me that he has had the least amount of support from fans these past few years. Each of the boys, even Louis and Niall(who were not the most popular during the 1D days), have a much bigger and more dedicated fan base than Liam. It’s clear that he hopes doing these interviews and other things with relevant influencers will help him in that regard.

[@wm8840]

Yeah it almost seems like he's given up on gaining a strong fanbase from the 1d fandom and is now looking for one elsewhere, which it's a bit sad as i'm convinced he'd also have a dedicated fanbase if he hadn't made the choices he's made and if his music felt less generic :/ i remember in the 1d days the fans would often emphasise the need to support *all* the boys, so many of us definitely gave him a chance but he's let us down

[@raindropsonroses3919]

Niall had the entirety of Ireland behind him at the time because he was the only one from here, so the rest of the boys didn’t resonate as much. So I wouldn’t say Niall had less fans. Louis yes, even though he was my personal favourite appearance wise

[@steff6146]

I don’t know if Niall had as many fans, but his fans have always been extremely dedicated. We were fighting for our lives on Twitter & Tumblr, doing the math on how much screen time and solos he got, supporting his every move. I think Niall has always been very secure in himself and knows how dedicated his fan base has always been. Even during ID years, Niall fans were diehard.

[@user-se6ni2ui8q]

Louis was more popular than Liam since he was in One Direction, though?

[@ca-ke9493]

Yup Niall fans are dedicated and vocal. There was many fan bits for him like LNS (tbh very very cringe), You Sing, Take a Chonce. And I would say Niall is very popular, he would always get good cheers from the crowd because he was so likeable. @@steff6146

[@stanen]

lmao that story that Harry shoved him against the wall because he made a racial comment about zayn is such a watpad fan fic material made by harries to make him the perfect angel of every story

[@rafraf3950]

Yeah that sounds too wattpad-y. But I do believe it was Harry who pushed him. Liam once said Harry is the scariest when he got angry, his voice got deeper and become physical he said. Probably talking from experience

[@unknown_8588]

@@rafraf3950 wattpad writers are definitely writing that down

[@Ashlyn172]

@@rafraf3950 👀

[@narwhalgirl12]

@@unknown_8588 😭😭😭

[@YK_1975]

Wattpad bs aside, is this story true?

[@StelenaVD]

It's funny how Liam used to have that put together image and being the dad of the band when now it seems like he was losing it. Even more than Louis and Zayn, who were just living out their teenage years. I feel like Liam always had an ego issue which is why he was overshadowed by the more humble and more talented members. Knowing how to sing is not everything unfortunately. Harry definitely has the charm and humility needed for that level of fame which is why he managed to maintain it and he's amazing.

[@ilznidiotic]

The 1D thing is well over my head, but NFTs are a full-on scam, and hanging out with their fanboys is a BRIGHT red flag.

[@amparomanzoni7003]

Im sorry but I always thought he was the blandest of them all like louis was really funny and playful, niall was a sweetheart, harry was really charismatic and charming and zayn was down to earth and had THE voice

[@gabit8576]

Yes, like if you look at the general public I think Louis is the one people don’t remember or “least popular”, but when you look at them as the band and the opinions of the fandom you can see that Liam never really had a strong and if I’m being honest any solo fandom and I think that’s a big part of why his solo career hasn’t worked, like his hit song Strip that down popularity mainly relaid on the general public cause it was a radio song everyone listened and liked in 2017, but the thing with that is that the general public is they might like a song and not give a F about the artist . And with the rest of the boys the difference is that their music it’s backed up by the support of fans which is something more consistent than doing radio hits, using Louis again as an example the general public never gave him that much attention on his solo career but he still has millions of streams on all his songs, sold out tour etc and all because of him having die hard fans and I think that’s what Liam is missing.

[@rachelwells3407]

I know nothing about this but your delivery and analysis was so entertaining that I stuck around until the end, honestly great job with this one!

[@ImmaURq]

I remember first hearing Strip That Down and thinking “oh man, Justin Timberlake is on his way out huh.” Bc it was the exact kind of boring, wishy-washy attempt at seductive R&B that I assume he makes now. But it’s the debut of this guy 😭😭😭

[@Rebe8d89AH]

Strip That Down was embarrassing, honestly. At least JT could dance and the 90s were just kinda like that back then? Edit: Also I'm not defending JT, not a fan after the Janet Jackson thing.

[@DexiDadzie]

JT is problematic but his R&B era was a hit….Liam can’t say the same.

[@Rebe8d89AH]

@Randy White I became aware of it recently (I was 4 when it actually happened). So, I'm currently re-reading about the incident and it still leaves a sour taste. Not just JT but the fall out.

[@jennym7786]

even worse is that it sounded like justin timberlake 15-20 years ago, not even something modern justin timberlake would want lol. it literally sounded like the worst of ed sheeran mixed with the worst of justin timberlake

[@louschwick7301]

Actually jt's music now has been pretty surprising In the sense that it's so shockingly unbelievably terrible, and in a way I never would've expected

[@0rbeez]

I feel like the red flags were there. I mean, I’m immediately sus of anyone who does a panel at an NFT convention. Not to mention, he’s friendly with *Logan Paul*

[@megspositiveoutlook5772]

I think it’s really telling that Liam brings up getting shoved against a wall but conveniently leaves out and twists WHY he got shoved against a wall. I’m not caught up on the group drama so this is my first time hearing it and that had me angry, especially with Liam’s history of having subtly bigoted opinions. We don’t get to act surprised about consequences if we’re spouting hateful shit around our friends.

[@oliviaek2659]

Started thinking of couple of things while watching this and first of all I find it really interesting comparing this to Harry’s recent interview with Zane Lowe and how reflective Harry seems to be when talking about the 1D years. He is very careful and choosing his words wisely to both include the others and talk of his own experiences whereas Liam appears to be a polar opposite and shows very little respect for the other members and their experiences of before/during/after being in the band. I think as well what Liam was saying about X Factor is interesting as a concept especially after watching Zoe Alexander’s videos about how they created a narrative about her as well as the structure of the show and the contracts the participants (many of them children!) had to sign, and how this affects how they can talk about X Factor and Simon Cowell etc. It seems that Liam still thinks of Simon as a great man when in fact he would’ve been the one to orchestrate much of Liam’s careers and the struggles that he will have had with it; and Liam takes this pain and rather wishes to push an agenda of sorts where the other members were the culprits/reason for any struggles. Another thing I noted was how Liam starts his Honorary Member speech with “but from what I’ve heard” but is quick to add “he [Simon] told me that story himself” when he sees the others’ reactions, using it to confirm and validate his claim. Found that very interesting and in a way very very sad.

[@sailorplanetmars6103]

I was never into One Direction or 5SOS or really any bands, but I have taken a very interesting eye on the careers the 1D boys have had post-break up. As you point out in multiple places I find the psychology and the ramifications of that degree of fame and control while being as young as they were at the time to be very interesting, as well as the slight inherent awkwardness from the fact they were shoved together for market appeal instead of naturally coalescing into a group. The various ways in which they've responded to that pressure and made use of it in the post 1D-careers has been very interesting to me, and I think it can be instructive regarding the kind of creepy and dismissive way we commercialise young musicians.

[@mychaelabeauregard8389]

As a former fan of 1D for years now, I can honestly say that I did not notice cracks until Liam’s solo career with strip that down started. Up until then, he actually kept on saying nice things about all the guys, Zayn included. But as soon as Strip came out, that’s when the subtle jokes ( mainly about Zayn) started to show and I knew right off the bat that they weren’t okay in the slightest, but his little fans were so blindsided by what he was doing l, NO ONE EVER CALLED HIM OUT ON IT. I’m happy he’s finally being called out on his shit, but I’m frustrated that it took this long that to see that he’s been an asshole. The guy needs to retire and get the help he needs.

[@sugakookies8063]

I feel like I’m going crazy, but I remember there always being some sort of tension between him and the members…I always just assumed the main reason was because he wasn’t the most favorite member, but it seems like there were other reasons as well..🤔

[@keanureeves666]

Hello gorgeous Thanks for the utmost love and moral support, from the bottom of my heart I appreciate you for being a wonderful fan😍

[@ashkitten]

“STRIPPING DOWN”?!? Ma’am, prison. You know what you did

[@dominique971]

I knew someone else would get this 😂

[@Ash-xt1ej]

Dude what the hell? 50%??? That is insane, and so unfair. Even if they did give them the publicity, that amount is just unethical. Also yes 5sos is doing so well right now, I wasn’t a fan of them when I was younger but man do I love their stuff from the last few years

[@sarahswanson7745]

The fact that from the talking about Harry being around bear situation Liam learned not to talk about Harry. But he didn’t get attacked for talking about Harry. He got attacked for being blatantly homophobic. Lmao. He needs to learn his lessons better.

[@arariddley3314]

Never have I been happier to have never been a Liam stan, even when I was a DEVOTED fan to 1D. He always screamed 'creep' to me. Everything about him left an even more bitter taste in my mouth since they broke up. I don't follow any of their music careers so I don't really know if any of them outside of Harry is active, seemed like everyone is busy minding their own business. Seems like Liam peaked and hasn't let go since then and now is trying to attach himself to any sort of relevancy to make up for the fact that he had one of the worst solo debut songs of his former bandmates. Strip That Down was ASS I AM NOT SORRY.

[@ellaelliott4415]

Didn’t Harry choose to eat a big instead of talk about One Direction? I wish this interview had never happened because I used to LOVE 1D so much. But everything Liam’s said is just…ruining it all. And he’s so delusions too. I think he’s jealous that Harry’s doing really well for himself and even Niall but he hasn’t moved on and is using his former band mates for clout. He was never the face of the band, Simon just told him that (and probably all of them). And dumping private info like he did is so wrong. Not to mention he decided to go on LOGAN PAUL’S PODCAST

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

All of them are active. Zayn is more private and just releases songs. Louis is on a world tour. Niall has two albums out and has also gone on tour.

[@veganostra7388]

yesss.

[@llynnlopez]

Louis is touring and I'm gonna watch his show! I wasn't a Louis girl during 1D days, but his solo work is definitely my thing.

[@miabennett04]

louis and niall are also really taking off

[@matildarehnman1111]

Coming back after tonight's news, and I'm just so frustrated with the whole of Liam's life past 16. There were so many times breaks should have been applied, so much help and support this boy then man should have gotten, and later consequences and accountability he should have been held to. I do not think anyone's happy about what's happened, but that doesn't mean you can't mourn for what this guy turned out to be and the life that could and should have been.

[@alex_bee]

Petition for Amanda to officially redo this disaster of an interview, listen - it's not too late!! Twitter is very forgetful, and she def knows how to ask proper questions that not so many people really think of when talking about bands in general, particularly about music industry moments surrounding the biggest boyband of 2010-2015. I feel like the time period plays a huge role in it too, like there was so much that could have been discussed instead of the topics they've chosen.

[@wompwomp9946]

her questions were SO interesting, i would love to hear the answers to them, but, like, by someone not Liam

[@alex_bee]

@@wompwomp9946 HAH yeah you’re right :’) it’s just that he doesn’t hold himself back when talking in the interviews at all comparing to the other boys - maybe Louis or Niall would do well on the interview, or even Zayn since he doesn’t give a fuck anymore lol but like how cool would it be oof

[@mrenygma181]

Naw. He needs to go away, get therapy, and deal with his issues. THEN he can come back and try for a redemption arc.

[@alex_bee]

@@mrenygma181 yeah...well, the point is also that he did do therapy but not for the issues at hand, unfortunately. And I don’t think narcissism can be cured by therapy - like isn’t it a personality trait at this point?..

[@TheMeiikaification]

Completly other fandom but it would be so awesome if anthony padilla did the I spent a day serie with Liam

[@rileeeyi]

this interview is so eerie in retrospect. in his last moments, he really did drink, ruin his hotel, and jumped from the balcony. his biggest form of safety couldn’t protect him anymore

[@peonylarkspur645]

I first heard about the Liam fiasco when ARMYs were dragging him for “discrediting kpop” so really the funny thing to me is that his comments on kpop were actually the least offensive part of this whole garbage? Really the biggest red flag is that he agreed to be interviewed by Logan fucking Paul

[@craigjenkins9958]

There’s a fine line between bravery and stupidity, and it looks like Liam Payne is trying to figure out where the line is drawn.

[@Dazelo_]

Kinda weird to call your friend a "hairy girl", but hey, if they are ok with it then go ahead haha

[@-topic9506]

this took me so long to get lnao

[@skzanarchist]

harry girl 😭

[@sammymb07]

GOD I remember getting into 1D literal weeks before they blew up, when you searched "one direction" in youtube and you got 2 unrelated videos, Harry's x factor audition, a random videos and the what makes you beautiful mv. They were surrounded by so much mystery and the fandom was off the walls insane so every single blink and sneeze was over analyzed. It was like there was a collective headcannon of what they were like and fans held onto that for dear life. It's so bizarre remembering that (thankfully I left the fandom right before Midnight Memories) and seeing this now. It's surreal.

[@josjoererg]

i honestly fin it funny how (imo) their music started getting good after the fandom started getting unbearable.

[@gracedays7443]

I didn’t even know this guy still made music until another KZbinr discussed this podcast. I’d never heard Strip That Down before but when I listened it was so bad my jaw genuinely dropped 😭

[@princepeach4190]

Fr I remember hearing it the first time and genuinely thinking it was a joke, like some weird meta humor. I would play it to my friends and we would laugh at how bad it was, then it was constantly on the radio and I realized he was serious. I was flabbergasted

[@lindagreens9140]

Can you show is your amazing music??STD was a hit,live by that truth.

[@ellencoleman4604]

Poor guy, the interview clips made me feel really sorry for him. It sounds like a lot of his life has been out of his control and he doesn't know how to take it back for himself. I hope he has a chance to find his own identity and lets it shape his music a bit more.

[@beckyalexoreo8516]

spot on with the “you’re disrespecting a future army soldier” vibe

[@greenhowie]

Heard about this in passing but didn't realise it was connected to an NFT event... that kinda turns it into a modern fable or something huh...

[@kaemincha]

"Logan Paul interviews Liam Payne at Gary Vee's NFT con" is a cursed sentence that can only exist in the darkest timeline of which we are currently in

[@thetruth830]

@@kaemincha sounds like what kurtis conner said on his podcast haha

[@kaemincha]

@@thetruth830 haha just watched that section! it truly is such a nightmare of a sentence

[@jillbo.baggins]

This interview made me so glad that 12 year old me was a Niall girl. (Still a Niall girl).

[@megs1573]

me too!! no drama just (golfing) vibes

[@jillbo.baggins]

@Andhowdoesthatmakeyoufeel for real! just making music and having a good time

[@jillbo.baggins]

@@megs1573 yes love the golfing vibes 🤣💙

[@SarahBullard-c4l]

In the comics Tony Stark is an alcoholic. Back in the 1970s there was an Ironman story arch called Demon In A Bottle which dealt with this. Liam Payne is also an alcoholic (as am I). I am also an ex-journalist and it is unethical and exploitive to conduct an interview with a person with substance abuse issues when they are under the influence.

[@HeliTalinurm]

What a great comment! How could anyone interview someone who is clearly not sober ??? (another ex- journalist here🙋‍♀️🤦‍♀️)

[@eibhilinor7712]

the celebs need to stop going on podcasts and just rambling without a plan. it never ends well

[@guineppe3405]

Liam has spoken in the past about his issues with alcohol abuse and i honestly think a lot of the weird messy shit he’s been saying and doing is related to that (as you hinted in the video). The magical kidney needs to disappear again because he clearly cannot handle drinking

[@jess3452]

The fucking kidney😭

[@sailormars336]

“Honorary member” to me means “not a real member” not “the first member before it was even a thing” but upon googling maybe I’m misinterpreting the definition of honorary. Either way, the term gives a sad “Im not part of the team” vibe if you interpret it like I do or a horribly conceited vibe if you do it the kind of positive way of like he was so good he didn’t have to do the work.

[@DeeL3]

Naw I know what you mean. He said "honorary" and it made me think of honorary doctorate so it's like he's saying "I'm in the group but not official" I think he just used the wrong word.

[@ginao6810]

You are right. Perhaps he meant founding member? Original member? I love that no one in the room had sufficient intelligence to pick up on it. I also suspect Liam has told that story a lot in private and said that every time

[@1818Pancakes]

I got the impression he was referring to Zayn. That he had a tendency to be violent and he was kinda making digs bc there were rumors GIgi and Zayn broke up bc Zayn was physical. And that he wasn't shocked and that's why Gigi's retweet's didn't age well. I agree that this interview could have been more productive if someone else had done it, I was getting so annoyed at the cohosts. Imagine interviewing someone and not doing more research about the person.

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

But that whole scandal was proven to be a big lie to get zayn deported

[@mj7087]

I feel like he would have actually said zayn's name though

[@aegle9192]

There is no physical altercation between him and gigi at all. All of the drama started because yolanda (gigi's mom) accused him publicly but none of them were proven right. Yes they were have an argument but it never get into physical 🥴 please do some more deep research before comenting about sensitive topic like this

[@sarasthoughts]

@@aegle9192 saying that they could never prove it doesn't mean it never happened.

[@aegle9192]

@@sarasthoughts it is never happen between him and gigi 🥴 About the yolanda' situation like i said there is defenitely an argument, z admit it they both share the harsh words but it never got physical like what she's claimed to tmz. - if zayn really struck/hit yolanda i bet my money all of her children would defend her publicly but till this day none of her children/friend/family say a word to back up her statement or defend her NONE OF THEM.

[@undergroundsoul94]

as someone who has no interest in 1D but finds all this very funny anyway, i think the part that offended me most is thinking drinking whiskey and being rich makes someone anything like tony stark

[@music_YT2023]

I was too old for the One Direction/Five Seconds of Summer drama, but I think you broke down the issue well and gave feedback on how the interview could have been made better. Plus, I love your enthusiasm for celebrity boxing. Feels very, "yes.... trash fire burn!" energy.

[@nickthomas8485]

I would love to watch a series where you interview controversial people. Your considerations for context on both sides of every story and ability to probe and press and ask the right questions are enviable.

[@Tarikkb]

“I’m the reason why one direction exists “ *cut to X factor where Nicole puts nial and Harry as the first members * 💀

[@SophieHeflebower]

to my understanding, lots of one direction fans have been upset with liam for awhile

[@keanureeves666]

Hello gorgeous Thanks for the utmost love and moral support, from the bottom of my heart I appreciate you for being a wonderful fan😍

[@jeonghair4876]

LMAO WHATT

[@caitlinb35]

Don’t think anyone will really see this, and it doesn’t really matter anymore, but I kind of needed a place to lay out all my thoughts since Liam passed. I’m the one who made that tweet that Ashton liked years ago now. I never said anything about it here because I couldn’t really justify it without it sounding like bragging and also getting so much attention on my twitter account for just 2 seconds was intimidating. Not to mention there was always something that felt wrong about me acknowledging it to others. But now I kind of need somewhere I can talk about it now, after everything, I guess. I genuinely stand by my observations about 5sos being exploited, and how that went unacknowledged by Liam in that moment, and it was not really talked about a lot before by others then so being able to say that and having a member acknowledge it in a way felt validating that I was making a valid point. And validation was what I always took away about Ashton’s like. Not the “shady” implications of it relating to his potential personal feelings to Liam, but that what I said about what they experienced being exploited resonated with him. Seeing it appear here was really surreal but I’m glad Amanda is such a balanced KZbinr and commentator and I appreciate her approach to my tweet and in general to Liam in this interview, being critical while also empathetic. Everything seems bad now in the retrospect, but she was genuinely more balanced than most people talking on him at the time. Anyway, after that like, I saw my tweet everywhere, all over twitter and obviously here but also tumblr, instagram, reddit, even on deuxmoi of all things. I justified leaving it up because of the traction it brought to the discussion of 5sos’ hardships, and also because I had such disbelief at getting a like from my favorite member of 5sos after 7 years of being on 5sos stan twitter (at only 27 likes no less, with no tagging or explicit mentions of them). But a part of me still felt off about it. Getting all that attention and finally noticed by an idol I really look up to for something I tweeted that was so snarky made me feel bad. I kept looking back at my wording and wishing I had left out the unnecessary comment about his career. If I had known it would’ve gained traction, well obviously it would’ve looked a bit differently. 27 likes was about all I expected. I know saying it “felt wrong” and I “felt ashamed” now doesn’t mean anything or change the impact my tweet had, and it’s not really provable anyway that I did regret it (although I did tweet at the time that getting that like made me realize how much people you talk about can actually see what you’re saying and to be careful with your words, because I really didn’t realize it would get noticed). I also know that really my tweet was just a drop in a bucket and tame in terms of the trend of hating on Liam, so this whole think piece is probably unnecessary. And it was two years ago, before all of this peaked in what just happened. But I just feel the need to say it was the one and only time I really spoke on Liam like that. I could see something was going on for him and I have felt guilty ever since really, even though yes, I left it up. Soon after I took a long break from my twitter anyway, it’s not like I was some twitter superstar but everything made me self conscious because it felt mean-spirited and unlike me. Seeing the news of his death made me feel so sad and shocked. He was far from perfect, but I had hoped he would be able to be ok over time and have a good comeback. I was a 1d fan back in the day and I cared about him, though my tweet didn't show much empathy. The longer I sit with it, the worse I feel. I also saw something in the past couple of days he had apparently posted sometime after the podcast in response to the memes and to criticism from it, which I had never seen before, about how he was sorry about what he said, and that he was going through something but took it out on others and had a chip on his shoulder he had learned from. It really made me cry and regret it more. And then I saw some people on Twitter criticizing 5sos’ post honoring Liam because of Ashton’s like of my tweet, and it made me feel doubly worse. I hate that he is getting grief for liking a tweet from two years ago because of my careless wording. He is allowed to mourn someone he had a complex brotherhood with. He is also allowed to acknowledge the exploitation he experienced. I don’t think he wanted hate directed at Liam at all. Just because he liked my snarky tweet doesn’t mean that he wanted this. I didn't even want this. Anyway, I hope his family and those who knew him can find peace, and all the boys and other fans too. I feel bad for the part I played. I know this is literally just some pity party comment and no one is entitled to engage in good faith, but I’ve been ruminating and yes, feeling guilty over this and figured this might be somewhere I could fess up about it. And please don’t send hate to 5sos mourning just because of one Twitter like. Also, be kind when you can. You can still be critical but leading with more empathy or restraint isn’t a bad thing.

[@MemXCI_]

hey! him passing was shocking and tragic no matter what opinion you have on him, but please don't go too harsh on yourself no need to, hope you're having a nice day :)

[@lynnhubbard844]

you are nuts---REALLY??????????????????????????

[@caitlinb35]

@lynnhubbard844 ????

[@caitlinb35]

@@MemXCI_ thank you so much, just saw this ❤️ take care

[@moretyquira]

If anyone needs proof as to why this show needs a woman, two guys I know who listen to this podcast regularly genuinely believed that he outsold the rest of the band 😭😂

[@nicoleshan6410]

You sit on a throne of lies, Liam!

[@elizabeththompson8511]

17:20 omg i bet they were fighting over y/n 😩😩😩

[@hannah-19.19]

This is one underrated comment I'm dying hahaha

[@SarahBullard-c4l]

Also it should be noted that Liam had a child at 23 with age xi factor judge he auditioned for at age 14. I feel there's a great deal of substance abuse and mental health issues involving him and the other One Direction members.

[@trentwiles9733]

Liam doesn’t have the fan base any of the other guys have and quite frankly I haven’t seen this much attention to him since even before the band split - PR wise this is a gold mine, but I’m not sure that was the plan. It’ll be interesting to watch his next moves.

[@sadlystuckinreality]

As a 1D fan, a lot of us have been annoyed with Liam for years for problematic things he's done.

[@sunfvalley]

youtube so messy for recommending this to me today

[@FastMisanthrop]

same 🫠 it popped up at the end of cooper's video from last week for me I came to finish watching it where i stopped last night too just now 😶 wth is that timing

[@dobibear]

same i watched this when it came out i DO NOT need to see it again

[@bulletsfire]

“What kind of media training did you have? And why did you ignore it to do this interview?” Subscribed.

[@aestasol]

am i the only one who got a racist vibe from him talking down on zayn’s upbringing? like i get he might know things the public doesn’t, but it’s still a very uncomfortable thing to say, especially considering he used the only POC member for his weird example. either he’s really ignorant and tone deaf of how that would come across or just straight up racist.

[@Leafeon56]

i think 1d breaking up hit him at his biggest insecurity, that he wasnt anything without the group, and he never really recovered from it. when the news hit that he had died i just felt. bad. i feel horrible.

[@epicgamer8117]

I think Liam is struggling with being washed up. Liam met minimal success with strip that down, then not much afterwards. It's probably hard to go from selling #1 albums and being a part of the biggest band in the world to being just... regular ?? Idk it's sad to watch

[@phoebexxlouise]

Some notes on 5sos: they already had a manager and a publishing deal with Sony and a national tour happening in 2012 before Louis shared their video in late 2012. In 5sos' recent ten year anniversary videos they said they moved overseas to the UK without a guarantee of anything. I'm not sure when Matt Emsell became their manager because he is British, but his only other artist is Matt Corby so it's likely he's always been Sydney based. Louis sharing their video was essential to their success, but I'm sure it was a risk free way for 1D and Modest management to gauge whether 5sos would be a good choice of opener for the Take me Home tour. The audience responded extremely positively and it was after that that I first heard of 5sos thru people I followed on Tumblr who had previously been partial to one direction. You know how Tumblr was back then: you follow someone for the Misfits gifs and you also get swamped with their Larry conspiracy memes

[@sheisaMachine]

loved this

[@phoebexxlouise]

@@sheisaMachine a bit unhinged I guess

[@jh4336]

The moment I saw him do this I instantly thought of you and hoped you'd do a breakdown. This is gonna be good!

[@stephaniejcy]

I've never been a 1D fan, I've heard some of the controversies they've been involved in and I'm not fan of any of them (now that they are solo) particularly but Liam saying he wouldn't want Harry near his kid because of how free Harry is with his personality and just who he is, it's just plain disgusting, i would be more worried about my kid seeing me get drunk on a daily basis and fighting people with my shirt off like a hormonal teenager for absolutely no reason

[@fable23]

Oh yeah, this guy. The one I always forget when mentally recounting the members of 1D in my head, the one whose name usually takes me 5-10 seconds to recall when I *do* remember him. He... certainly has a high opinion of himself.

[@aysenursahin9953]

Lmao you're not the only one. He's the one everyone forgets about. I was never a fan and people who've never been into 1d remember and recognize Harry and Zayn,think a lil harder and remember Niall (in my mind he's "the irish one"),finally stop with Louis. And than you think "wait,there was a fifth one,right?" 💀

[@aurora_skye]

Same

[@Secretlyalittleworm]

I’m sure Harry is crying with his No1 album

[@hhhhhhhhhh1919]

with the maya pic thing. that fan knew that wasn't maya lol. the original 2 pics were posted to the other girls instagram and fans found out because she tagged liam. fans were posting it and saying it was her to be shady to her also, he was pretty much the honorary member of one direction AT FIRST. he's a huge douche throughout the interview and the way he said it/the fact he brought it up IS narcissistic and gross BUT he was considered to be a lead during the first album at least. you can tell from how much the first album is pretty much JUST him and harry singing. the label obviously realized that he was lackluster and boring after the first album lmao and hes obviously still bitter about it

[@a1suruxx]

I feel like if the boxing match comes to fruition, Bryson would win and it could give Liam the ego check he absolutely needs. Liam also just seems homophobic and that he has a drinking problem. He has issues

[@kaemincha]

as someone who knows next to nothing about One Direction but was a big kpopper at the time, so the circles often ran next to each other, Liam is objectively the blandest member of One Direction. back then and now.

[@kaloveshoran]

liam is prepared to tear up the fandom at anytime. my 11 year old self is rioting.

[@Akursedtime]

I've said it in another video posted about Liam. My friend is a super Directioner and I was a casual listener. She adores Zayn and Louis and I had a soft spot for Niall. Niall is cute in my opinion. And also knew Harry because he is the most popular member. Never knew that there were five members, because I only knew of four and thought "Must be four members since those are the names, I only hear." And one day I was at the mall with my friend and I noticed on a poster that there was a fifth member. And asked my friend "Who is he?" And she was like "Oh that's Liam, he's in the band too." And I was like "Really? I didn't know there were five members." LOL

[@SunniDae333]

Update: it was Zayn!

[@joanafernandes6316]

There were so many signs in this interview that Liam was not okay. It's sad that although he was famous and popular, the help wasn't enough (if he had any help at all). I hope he can rest now 🕊️♥️

[@Jubei66666]

Into Web 3 and NFTs, says everything you need to know.

[@ladybrucee]

2 years later and it's been confirmed, Zayn was indeed the shover

[@Vampress09]

God Amanda needs her own interview podcast!! She would break youtube.