Switching from G29 to T500RS

[@scotstclair9102]

Bro, your foot work is super impressive! Looks like you actually have racing experience.

[@hobit00]

"the leather quality on both rims is same" - except T500RS has no leather, it is rubber LOL

[@cozza819]

Genuinely one of the most interesting bits of music I've heard in a while. That was a trip

[@dimiz4096]

Best review i have ever seen, better than those other mainstream channels which never talk about the experience of using the product and just reiteratewhat they saw on the manufactures homes page

[@Gatitasecsii]

If there's something I like about you and this channel, it's how analytic you are

[@QuattroRMT]

Lion Fiq what are you? 12?

[@SimSimma.]

+Lion Fiq pathetic

[@guigui70051]

Lion Fiq pervers kid

[@battosaijenkins946]

@viperconcept, hey man the th8 shifter sucks get a Clubsport Shifter and use the th8 as a modified handbrake. You'll thank me later~ =(

[@RecklessRedz]

From my experience, the T500rs is a huge step up from the g29/g920. Its not even comparable

[@peerbrent]

My opinion T500S wheel design looks better to me than g29 and the g29 wheel looks like it’s crowded by buttons

[@krystianraul791]

Nice video but you are wrong - T300 is the same or even better than T500. The T300 is newer, has newer technology etc. The only thing is that T500 has stronger FFB, but T300 has it more detailed and smooth like in real life, the countersteer feels more real. You can chceck on the internet comparison between this wheels and also with T150 (.pdf file) from Thrustmaster. I have T300 with T3PA PRO pedals and TH8A shifter - they are really good! Pedals are 100% metal and it includes 2 brake mods - conical rubber mid and spring mod. Conical rubber is very good - feels great and real, improved my braking skills alot. Now I can race without ABS and don't lock my brakes :) I don't remember if it comes with T500 pedals also. I reccomend to you the Wheel Stand Pro - I have the Deluxe v2 version and due to fact that it is a company from Poland it is way cheaper here compared to other products like Playseat. You also need all add ons like other stands (shifter mount and GTS plate for GT style pedals which I use - never liked the F1 style in other wheels, prefer more 'regular car' style, so GT is perfect for me) and it's perfect - stable, heavy, easy to transport. EDIT: on T300 you have 28cm wheel instead of 30cm like in T500 but the rim is changeable - I will update with FXX EVO Alcantara 30CM rim from Thrustmaster soon :) Also the T500 has rubber wheel, not leather.

[@angelongyan3206]

krystianraul791 and it's cheaper I have the T300 Ferrari Alcantara

[@eriknaamot]

I have had the T500RS for 6 years, and was working superb the entire time! Last month I upgraded to the Thrustmaster TGT, and I am really happy about it :)

[@MARCO-rq2ph]

there is much difference ?

[@edgiebraahhh7280]

@@MARCO-rq2ph no TGT isn't that much of a upgrade... If you plan on upgrading from a T500rs , The CSL Elite is the best choice

[@danny200mph5]

I had the T500rs wheel back in the day. Omg it was impressive. One day I was wiping it down to clean... tried to turn on... pauses, Half turn,pause,slight turn...dead. Omg that cost so damn much.

[@tastywatermelonhead4924]

Oh no i am hurting from the sound of that waste of money

[@dylano0126]

Yeah thrustmaster has reliability problems but when you get a good product, it's a GOOD product. Will last years for sure

[@NicolayGiraldo]

The T500 looks better than the G29 in just about everything, except one thing: That stupid 8-way shifter. There's a reason no manual car has ever had such design.

[@officertenpenny4505]

Nicolay Giraldo I saw a plastic cover for the shifter that turns it in to the 6+r

[@v1nigra3]

Nicolay Giraldo I love my 8-way shifter

[@niklasalmaas6369]

Hubert Kam i believe some corvettes have a 7 spd manual

[@LAOrNoir]

Yep, never has it ever, ever been known... apart from the past-generation Aston Martin Vantage, the 991, the 992, and the C7 Corvette, to name just a few. Of course, it's completely stupid for a manual to have that many gears, but you're a little way off.

[@el_teodoro]

@@LAOrNoir Don't most car with that many gears have paddle shifters?

[@kubilayoztekin7285]

Dude , Now my life addicted to your championships please give me more. Im about to die ;( ;( ;(

[@viperconcept]

Me too, I can't wait. But we must be patient until the next game update with the private lobbies. ;-)

[@bradleyland]

viperconcept Forum announcement says end of April for private lobbies! Can't wait!

[@Anthonytch]

Brad Landers 😢 that is too far away

[@xcyanidegamerx4402]

The longer shifter on the TH8A is meant for full on racing setups with a racing seat where the shifter would be placed lower FYI (also could be used for rally racing or just in general sequential shifting)

[@oscarmart1]

Lifetime G27: 10 years. TS500RS: 2 years

[@DUBMANS]

i can approve of this. my g25 died today after 10 yrs. Update I rebuilt it, the shifter mech needed to be rebuilt. And it works agian

[@Joe-nc3zb]

DUBMANS 10 years?!?! I’m new to wheels but if mine lasts 5 I’ll be happy

[@DUBMANS]

@@Joe-nc3zb yep if you take care of it and don't abuse it, it can last longer. I rebuilt my g25 countless times and it still lives.

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

My g27 lasted 9 years and now I have a g29 so I can use it on my PS4 but still kept my g27.I had a t500 and the left paddle shift broke soon after.

[@mr3b522]

My g920 2 years and dead 💀

[@williamjacksebastian]

4:06 That Heel-toe though... DAMN

[@yep2464]

Owning a wheel u can learn to heel toe in like a week. It's fancy looking but not hard on a sim set up.

[@JoshuaJayMyers]

This is where I aspire to be one day. Great channel and content. So much respect.

[@rubenbonga9415]

If you hold the mode button and pres right or left on the pad on your wheel the light wil start flashing if it flashes 5 times that means the your wheel wil now use 1080 degrees of ration 4 flashes i think 920 and so on.

[@RacingFanatic248]

I have a T150 and the T3PA pedals and TH8A shifter I love them

[@gsonz172]

The problem with Thrustmaster is that it just looks ugly. Cover the shifter with leather and give the steering wheel a better design and then it looks much better.

[@M_773]

@@333sge I agree... And I have a G29

[@slowmotionbetterthannomotion.]

simply change the wheel with an add on

[@jayplexy5983]

Personally i think the G29 looks like a toy made from bad quality plastic while the T500 looks semi realistic and it looks like much much higher quality. Except for the pedals. I like the Logitech pedals better but that may just be the lighting of the picture.

[@M_773]

@@jayplexy5983 the G29 is much more reliable than any thrustmaster product. Don't buy thrustmaster, just go to fanatec if you want a better wheel then the G29

[@blacklistdrivestyleZ]

@@M_773 whats the problem with thrustmaster

[@catoaksnes6169]

I will happily take care of your g29

[@enricomazzarellosimracing6502]

Force feedback i prefer Thrustmaster... for precision i prefer ten times logitech... About the pedal, the pedal of Logitech G29, are included in the box with the steering wheel ( i don't know if they made a better one to buy a side ), but those pedals for T500 you must buy it completely separate and they are expansive too, if you buy the normal 3 pedal from Thrustmaster ( the plastic version comparable with the default pedals of Logitech ), you will find that the 3 pedals of Logitech are far more accurate and resistant than the normal 3 pedal of Thrustmaster; mine went broken after only 2 months that i bought it. And brake pedal of Logitech is amazing compared with normal 3 pedal Thrustmaster . Thrustmaster 3 pedal can change position of the footboards , in Logitech you can't. About the shift there is no discussions, Thrustmaster win 10-2 but if you playing on pc , you can easily link a Thrustmaster shift on a Logitech wheel. Anyway, i know that T500 has a better engine ( 2 engine if i understood good , when the T300/TX has only one , and mine collapsed after less then two years )... but since i went on Logitech after less then six months, i can really say that i will never buy a Thrustmaster wheel in my life. It is absolutely not about the force feedback, it is about the precision and the feeling of sensitivity of this wheel, that since the firs minute ( when i tried it for the firs time on the shop ) made me feel in love... Better than Logitech for me only Fanatec.

[@hansyang1697]

Nice vid Viper. Love to see your future videos with T500rs.

[@xhugmex1475]

good luck with new wheel m8

[@RISCy27]

Just as a tip... You can move the pedal plates on the pedals using the other holes. I moved my brake pedal plate one hole to the right, to make heel-toe easier. And to avoid the mounting issue, you could drill to holes into your wheel support deck and hard mount the wheelbase using screws (should be in the Thrustmaster box).

[@7eventhirty344]

Funky music, had me headbobbing all the way through ;)

[@matthiassmit9046]

I like how you feather the gas pedal when braking and changing to down gears! Really neat.

[@lartza5624]

It's called "Heeltoe shifting"

[@Ogcoke]

Best way to hit corners to avoid understeer

[@abdbach379]

iEliminate You mean snapoff oversteer...

[@burritokid9460]

since you said the thrust master gear stick was to big, you could always put it lower like in a real vehicle

[@mukkena7453]

Bruh that’s not the point he’s trying to make. It’s not about the height of the shift unit. The longer the stick, the farther the top of the shift knob has to travel. Which means it will take longer to shift since it has to travel a longer distance

[@slowmotionbetterthannomotion.]

Alpha 1 then buy short shifter mod for the TH8A from www.ricmotech.com

[@martinpalmer3575]

you can change the degrees on the T500 on the fly, using the mode & d-pad direction. You can set it as low as 540degrees iirc, all the way upto 1080degrees. Its very useful for rally driving.

[@tauri9729]

Martin Palmer i

[@martinpalmer3575]

yes?

[@corsamode]

Just brought a G29!

[@miciosky]

Congratulazioni per il nuovo acquisto viper!

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

How can the leather quality be similar on both wheels,I had a t500 and the rim is synthetic.

[@hellsing0999999999]

They are both ''genuine'' leather.

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

My T500 had a rubber type material on the wheel rim,not leather for sure.

[@simracingnoob2248]

The G29/G920 has real leather

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

Simracingnoob it sure does but the t500 sure doesn’t.

[@Bandit-Darville]

Just a little more context here: The price gap is huge compared to the G25/27/29 because of the shifter and Pro pedal set, which is sold separately. Those two add a cool 300 bucks OVER the 450 that the T500 costs, if you can still find one. My personal choice became the T300 with the TH8A and the Pro pedals. I have come to love them so much over my old G25. The one giant issue with ALL Thrustmaster steeringwheels has been the Y shaped clamping system, which they have been using for over 15 years now! And it sucks!! And just try to imagine what it once was like when the whole clamp, including the bolt and cap where made out of the same plastic!! They all snapped because the Y shape clamp doesn't grab to smooth surfaces that well, resulting in over tightening of the bolt and ultimately failure of the mounting system. When i switched back to Thrustmaster with my T300, i seated the base on the table the way i want to play with it, outlined the two clamp ends underneath the desk and drilled two spaces there, a few millimeters deep, where the clamp sits when mounted. Not i don't have to over tighten it and it won't go anywhere while mounted. Just a little tip from experience.

[@MajorKirrahe]

T500RS costs more than double the cost of the G29. I would say the price isn't justified with what you get for it.

[@maxandrelanthier4788]

you only get the 6 speed shifter though

[@funny-bv6lo]

Maxandre Lanthier yeah but the T500RS is more than double the price lol

[@DarkSwordsman]

@@maxandrelanthier4788 In reality, though, how many 7 gear cars are there that you'd be shifting in an H pattern compared to paddle cars or cars with 6 or less gears? Not much.

[@Frankestein01nl]

Top-tip, Viper: Go to your local carstore, and pick yourself a new gearshiftknob. I did for my shifter, and it works a treat, feels alot better than the original one.

[@Al93271]

I still have a G27. I don't have a stand for it, I just sit on the edge of a kind of cushioned table we have, the wheel in front on the cushioned table, the pedals in front of the table (I can still reach them with my feet that way) and the gear stick to my left, also not on a stand and on the floor because I can't fit it on the table with me, and also because even if I did have a thing to lift it up beside me, I can't switch gears with it. I am just not confident at all to do this, and I don't have a stand for this either, so it'll always tip over every time you want to switch gears. That's why whenever I decide to use manual for some reason (I basically only use automatic) I use the paddles. Never the stick.

[@masonmcderp2485]

I just bought this set today and I love it so far! This is my first ffb wheel and it may even be my last if games keep supporting it.

[@drftr6073]

3:12 casual heel toe on a sim nice

[@MrYutoob]

thanks for the video. it got me interested in wheels when i picked up racing again. ultimately i decided to go with fanatec csl wheels base and clubsport pedals. but watching this video again almost makes me want to go back on my decision.

[@lowiedekiller]

1:29 the leather quality is similar. The t500rs is rubber not leather

[@TinoushGTR]

Belt driven >> gear driven Why didn't you get the t300? Newer tec

[@apocalypse3039]

Why did you switch first of all?

[@angryhierophant2060]

I realy really love you viperconcept, you made me love simulators again and I'm finally buying a new steering wheel too! A T100 for PC It ain't great but hey, as long as I love to drive

[@corehazard4709]

you have such a good music taste my man

[@Jack-wb7ub]

I had the same problem with the clamp, the rubber pads on the bottom of the wheel base became unstuck - allowing the wheel to slowly slide out of position. I would recommend hard mounting the wheel to your desk

[@FerriW]

can you make a tutorial on heel-toe downshifting pls

[@lisandrovallejo8244]

Fanda Volf I was thinking the same dude

[@JibrilKaslana]

he has one

[@reddson3226]

Considering how he mostly relates to simulators, I think you should watch a video about how to do it IRL, unless it's something setup related

[@iI_Principe]

You change the gear only after starting to ease off the clutch

[@BurningBroadcast]

The T300's motor is faster, more smooth and it's brushless. It's not a 'medium' range steeringwheel. It's superior to the T500 at everything except raw strength. The TS-PC racer is the new wheelbase that replaced the T500 wheelbase. That has the same strength as the T500 but all the new tech (brushless motors, better belt drive , power delivery etc) the T300 has. Not trying to be a dick about your purchase but what you list in the description makes it seem like the T300 is worse than the T500, which it isn't. Well unless all you care about it strength and not refinement of feedback. Aside from that solid comparison ,despite it's age still a better wheel than the G29 in pretty much every way I'd say. I like how you don't shy away from listing all the issues you have instead of just praising it. I'm sure you'll enjoy your T500 :)

[@FezzantPlucka]

The TS-PC is stronger than the T500, not sure by how much however.

[@JFein]

Fezzant, it's only marginally more powerful than the T500. Largely the same motor powering the system, just with the smoothness refinements from the T300/TX, as OP said

[@FezzantPlucka]

I know, but it is more powerful.

[@AK3Drifter]

WickedDimension actually in terms of feedback rotation speed , t500 is faster than t300.. so t500 is better choise for drifters for example... but i also changed my g25 to t300...

[@claudioarantes4137]

Hi there Viper! Thanks a lot for your tip! I'll try it out and let you how it works!👍

[@RomuloPedroso94]

Here where I live (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil), with the money to buy just the TH8A shifter, you can buy the g29 wheel and it's shifter XD. So, unless there's a HUGE difference between them, I don't see a reason to spend 3x maybe 4x times the money on the T500.

[@ducky-o7y]

Romulo Pedroso I had the t300, fanatec v2 pedals and th8 shifter sold it.... missed it and bought the g29 package for a 3rd of the price and love it. The Logitech shifter ist great but for casual use good enough.

[@DragonXDrei]

That's what I also said, even in the UK the price for the G29 is £170 including shifter (bundle deal at PC World), the T300 with better pedals and shifter (T300 Ferrari Integral Racing Wheel Alcantara Edition + TH8A) would cost me £470. That's a £300 difference which is huge in my opinion for something which I will not use 24/7. If I used the T300 24/7 it would break in a week anyhow. I really do wish that the G29 came with a 30cm wheel. 27cm is a little too small.P.S. You can buy a mod for the shifter which makes it feel like a real car. I got mine from 3DRap.it but it does cost about £15 for a 3D printed piece of plastic.

[@Hibitrate916]

Could you please keep us updated on you're FFB settings ?

[@KanarisTM]

0:30 Firstly, as you can see the "Thrustmaster" has a longer stick ;)

[@janobutt6531]

Keep thrusting

[@MetalSimVR]

I really don't know why so many people have problems with the th8a-shifter on Assetto Corsa. Here at my home everything works perfectly...

[@bumpkini30]

Metal gear shift cold in the Winter? Is your rig outside? Turn on the heating!! Terrible comment.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@Ali Mohammed Dib if you live somewhere very cold and don't even have a heater then you've got bigger problems to worry about.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@Ali Mohammed Dib so what exactly do you want them to do? make the knob out of wood or plastic? stop nitpicking!

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@Ali Mohammed Dib leather on top would make it more expensive so absolutely NOT.

[@manuellimamodino432]

Shut up paterson, you sound like a moroon

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@Ali Mohammed Dib move somewhere warm then you fucking asshole if the shifter's knob is too cold for your delicate fucking hands. Too expensive to move? Welk then shut the fuck up and buy something else lol.

[@raphaelgn]

For the pedals, you can put a anti-stress ball after the accelerator, it works better

[@SaGaLX374]

i upgraded from a microsoft sidewinder 1999 to a g27 hope its better :D

[@danielm.3403]

SaGa374 omg, I still have it. And want to upgrade as Well to a g29

[@MarcusXJC]

congrats especially about the views being able to support you to purchase the T500! I myself went from the G920 to the T500RS, and found a massive jump in quality. The FFB on the T500 was a bit too much for me, but the speed at which the wheel countersteers is amazing for drifting. It's strange but I actually prefer the G920/G29 shifter to the TH8A, it was just easier to use idk? Also I agree the T500 clamp is god awful. I'm saving up for a wheel stand pro so i can hard mount the wheel. it was such a hassle to clamp the wheel each time, with the clamp getting stuck - it took me about 5 minutes each time to set up the wheel!! also beware as i've read numerous stories about the clamps cracking

[@viperconcept]

The G29/920 shifter is faster because the gear stick is lower and the movement to change gear is smaller. Then I don't see differences in terms of difficulty between the G29/920 shifter and the TH8A.

[@MarcusXJC]

yeah I suppose that explains it. the g29 shifter feels like a toy compared to the TH8A. Actually I think since I drive a 5-speed car IRL, the inclusion of the 7th gear and the extra R gear takes a bit of getting used to for me aswell. I thought the clicking down mechanism into 6th gear to go into reverse was quite cool with the G29

[@mr_slave]

What if a car has 8 gears but the shifter has only 6?

[@wesleyklomp8705]

Then you cant reach Gear 7 and 8 with the shifter. Easy answer

[@mr_slave]

@@wesleyklomp8705 so how to reach gear 7 and 8?

[@wesleyklomp8705]

@@mr_slave Either use Sequential or pedal shifters, you simply cant shift into gear 7 if there is no gear 7 on your h shifter

[@mortyjr2334]

@@mr_slave There is no reason to use a gear shifter with 8 gears, very and I mean VERY few cars have a stick shift with 8 gears, most are paddle shifters in real life.

[@Gipsz_Jakab]

@@mortyjr2334 what about my truck it have 13 gears

[@revhead1001]

You need to properly mount the wheel. Just drill some holes in the wheel base and put some 6mm bolts in and you will have no problem with the wheel moving. (I think it is 6mm)

[@Onionring1970]

I got a thrustmaster t 150. Im happy with it. Of course i dont play much either and im horrible probably with any set up.

[@hebelehubele872]

You will get better eventually

[@nr3336]

Yeah all it takes is practice, I have had a G920 for 3 months and I am just now starting to get half-way decent in Dirt Rally 2

[@clangswordsman4968]

I found that wheel incredibly weak compared to the T300/500.

[@pieterpost6607]

@@nr3336 dirt rally is though to learn, but very fun and rewarding when you are good at it. It's also very immersive wich i personally enjoy very much.

[@nr3336]

@@pieterpost6607 its a blast no doubt. Very fun game. My favorite racing game, as well as Project Cars 2.

[@VrEs-K]

With t500's pedals uses the "realistic brake mod" supplied, but without spring!

[@mbardos]

also try driving without shoes, that improved the feel for me...

[@messemaker22]

The g29 is only 165euro here the t500 is way over 700 for a propper setup so....the fixed shifters on the t500 are a unacceptable design flaw in my book forcing you to spend another 200 for the formula wheel.

[@el_teodoro]

:c price of the g29 gone up because of corona

[@messemaker22]

@@el_teodoro yikes i see 275 euro now and the g920 is 245

[@el_teodoro]

@@messemaker22 :c hope to see it drop soon. 150 would be an amazing price.

[@HR60086]

For the slipping of the wheel during counter steer find some thin rubber matting stuff and cut it to shape so when ytou tighten the lower u bracket it doesnt slip anymore from the added grip under the wheel

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Completely not worth the upgrade if you consider price and you actually got similar performance yet less on tighter tracks and the fact the shifters dont move with the wheel for me is a hard one to get over I remember that being an issue with alot of people I would stick with the 29 and save my money but good video man

[@mariooo477]

Can you give me a link with all set?

[@liamturner6424]

The thrust master is most probably better but it's like double the price (without the shifter) of the g29 with the add on shifter

[@liamturner6424]

@Vectrum no it isn't, but I didn't say that, I said 'is most probably better' which is perfect English

[@christopheroconnor4665]

I got mine in a bid on ebay for $220 with just the wheel and no pedals second hand!

[@chrls.1093]

@@christopheroconnor4665 I got a pre used TX for 80€ with no pedal and leather edition wheel (yes a TX, not a TMX) It's selling around 200€/250€ usually...

[@Quasindro]

I love watching your actual movements irl, ia there any possibility that you will do that hand/foot camera thing more often?

[@gregsoto3764]

I was going to buy that same thrustmaster setup on amazon but there where so many negative comments that I will stay with my G29

[@ji3200]

only thing i don't G29 is that they still use only tech helical gear instead of belt driven tech. G29 definitely feels like mechanic toyish forcefeedback feel.

[@CallFor911]

I have plugged my th8a Shifter directly into the PS4. The connecting to the wheel didn't work with my T300 and AC.

[@Larry]

Have you thought of attaching rubber grip pads to the bottom of the T500RS to stop it slipping?

[@philipoliversen9512]

Larry Bundy Jr or hard mounting

[@mitchellbullen1389]

Or you can get the g29 and just put a small piece of carpet under the petal the petals have spikes under it to stop it from sliding

[@Jasondnell]

have you ever thought about getting a openwheeler racing seat? it comes with all of the materials to hard mount everything so you wont have to worry about your steering wheel moving. i have one and love the way it works

[@kole418]

comment section has iq of 2

[@alfieinnit6859]

I know dumbasses

[@kivsa85]

Thank you bro, Because of your review i'm taking the G29 thank you

[@someweeb3650]

Put on a short throw shift kit.

[@Johnny_Awesome]

you don't have to use the original Shifter knob. Just buy one with a deep drilled thread and no large "head". So the actual knob to grab sits lower on the base. Making it easier to shift fast.

[@hstevefrancis1003]

pedal configuration is better on Logitech, but wheel is definitely better with thrust master

[@vk-ss1lw]

One anoiying thing is that the thrustmaster is 2x price of the g29

[@SillyGoose778]

@@vk-ss1lw also 2x better

[@MaverickM1]

Seleron no, it isn’t. A bit better here, a bit worse there... but its overall quality is only slightly better. Sold my g29 last year to buy a t500, but after tried it i’ll go back to g29 again. T500 is way too expensive, double price for that tiny advantage...

[@SillyGoose778]

@@MaverickM1 Oh well good to know, thanks for telling.

[@oku1317]

@@SillyGoose778 Depends on what you're doing. For Drifting, it's might and day (At least with the T300), but for racing, I don't see the belt drive being as useful. Being able to actual have the wheel keep up at 900 degrees was the amazing. The G920 was just too slow.

[@sanybalkanaciairsoft3253]

I also am thinking of getting myself a T300RS with TH8 shifter or maybe the T500 with TH8 shifter, but now comes the BUT im more of a low time racing game player, maybe 1/7 days i play racing sims, so i think maybe a G29 would be enough for me. I want the Wheel more for my wife to teach her how to drive more for fun, she doesnt want a driving license. I have a Drift OZ Wheel bought it for 50€, played for the first 10 days without stop but it ha only a 90 degree turn to left and right and a Gas and Break pedal. The padel shifters are faster but i have more fun with a H stick shifter.

[@Ghosty4k]

Damn must suck playing at

[@notanengineer]

50

[@TheLuckyLunatic]

I think he might be playing at a higher FPS just we wouldn’t know because he probably set the video to be outputted to 30 FPS

[@DamianXvolt]

I had the t500rs for about 2 or 3 years and the build quality is quite amazing. I'm still not sure if I would replace it by a G29 I'm quite happy with the pedals and buttons on the wheel as well as software. However I have turned the rotation to only 720° since in real life, drivers do not have to turn the wheel forever, (which is awkward at high speeds). Still don't have the shifter as it costs quite a lot of money but would like to. I'm not sure if you can customize it as well. The gear pads are annoying though. Fitting it to my desk was easy but need to watch as it needs to he on a surface with good grip.

[@TheVatoloko81]

viperconcept you forgot to mention one thing in the the shifter. You can put the shifter in sequencial mode :)

[@viperconcept]

I know, but personally, I don't see the utility. Why putting sequential shifter mode when you can use your paddle shifters behind the wheel?

[@jotacano9988]

viperconcept for a better experience on sequential shift cars like toyota mr2 spyder or some rally and pikes peak cars.

[@TheVatoloko81]

True, but some ppl maybe prefer sequential, or to get more real, in GT cars like Ferrari 458 GT2... :)

[@laionfirtin]

Also if you play Rally games, you can bind the hand brake on the sequencial stick, and shift with the paddles

[@Daniele858585]

perche alcune categorie di gt non usano i paddle dietro al volate, credo sia fatto per dare piu realismo sinceramente sul g27 mi manca abbastanza questa funzione

[@SabNik]

Hi, I love your videos and the work you put into them. Can you test how different shoes affect your driving? You could buy some high heels, boots or something else that comes into your mind.

[@Ys______22s]

Why???

[@clintonlow6013]

Hey Can someone Please tell me what this song is called???

[@lorenzvo5284]

What car do you drive on a daily basis? :D

[@MattproThe]

What i read was "G29 -> Perfect" - "T500RS -> A lot of Problems but i like it". Lets keep the T500RS.

[@viperconcept]

Many "problems" I have with the T500rs are solvable. I had some problems with the G29 too at the beginning. :-)

[@MattproThe]

viperconcept yeah i know they're solvable but for example the fast turn in, the long shifter, the steering wheel shifter (idk the name in English), is a little bit weird to see you changing the wheel for the new one, that's my point

[@HowlerBikeVlogs]

t500rs precision, FFB and overall feel are on a whole new level compared to g27/29, it feels like the FFB could break your arm if it wanted to, also alot more silent working since it's belt-driven and not gear-driven. i went from g27 to t500rs and fell in love, it's really a world apart. like going from forza to assetto corsa physics-wise

[@srrkrieg7465]

5:35 hope you sort out that movement. No way I could live with that :D especially on say dirt rally. Looks like i would rip it off the stand haha :D To be fair there is a way to make it a short shifter ;) Same way the old boys did before short shifters where after market parts but i'm sure you don't want to chop up your new toy :D enjoy mate

[@mrmalavey1098]

You can get a plate for the shifter that sits over the gates and makes it a shorter shift

[@hypervenom5960]

Iam buying a used wheel here in egypt the T500 Rs is about the same price of a G29 infact the G29 is a little more expensive iam a beginner but I won’t be upgrading wheels until it is no longer compatible with my console (even then i might put together a decent PC) anyways what do you people recommend??

[@weems.l2591]

Buy the T500 if the price is similar, the T500 has faster and stronger FFB which gives you more detail of the car

[@ollemauleonwolter848]

Definitely the T500, much better overall

[@tarakiboyz3326]

Is the T500RS's 1080 degree of rotation advantageous? Try turninng in tight corner games like Dirt Rally, F1 race, etc.

[@theshanamaster]

I drive masters with his whole setup on diort rally without any assists with full steering lock, and quite honestly can't really be repetitive since each way you will enter a corner will be different varying on how you been that said day

[@Hugo-pj4bm]

Tarakiboyz it stays the same with all card, except with cars that actually have more than 920° steering

[@tommeiner9983]

Dude, you don't have to use the maximum rotation, you can set it lower if you want to, it's just a plus opportunity.

[@JL-cn1qi]

He just upgraded from one to the other. This isn't what wheel should i get kind of video. They are 2 vastly diffent price range wheels. About 2 steps up, with the T300 being the step above the G29.

[@viperconcept]

Read again the title of this video, but slower.

[@JL-cn1qi]

I got it the first time, tho alot of people seem to be having that discussion none the less

[@Gortosan]

It's meant for people like me. I'm racing with a g29 and consider to upgrade to a better wheel. This video serves a perfect purpose.

[@TheSagarPatil]

t500 pedals are 16 bit i believe and G29 HAVE 10 BIT pedals. that's why the difference might be.

[@EvMan0509]

I play on ps4. Say I want to buy the Logitech wheel and the Logitech petals with the clutch, but I want to buy the t500 shifter. Is that possible!?

[@Askorias]

Yes. That's because the shifter is connecting separatly

[@whitworthlime8793]

No it isn't compatible with the Logitech wheel

[@rrgoodmanmr]

the th8 shifter comes with a sesquicentennial shift plate Wich is used on modern cars mostly, use the h pattern cover for some of the old school cars. but paddle shifting is very good.

[@yamen857]

@@whitworthlime8793 the th8a shifter uses usb

[@yamen857]

@@danielkent9094 thr thrustmaster shifter uses usb

[@evilolle]

What happens when you drive a car with 7 gears and use g29's H shifter....? Can you still use gear 7?

[@viperconcept]

In some games like Project CARS and Gran Turismo, yes, because you can switch from H-shifter to paddle shifter at every moment (even during the race). However, you'll never use the 7th gear on stock H-gate transmission cars, because the you reach the top speed on 6th gear.

[@evilolle]

I only ask because I don't know witch set up I want. Will I also reach top speed in a Audi r8? Irl it has 7 gears!

[@viperconcept]

The R8 in AC is sequential transmission only, so you can't use the H-shifter (on console).

[@gonk8465]

viperconcept but what about the viper you drove in the video?

[@miguelmsilva4112]

It wasn't a viper xD it was a Corvette C7

[@loektube699]

Why do you press the accelerator when your shifting down? Is that a good thing to do?

[@DatAwesumGamer]

It's called heel-toe downshifting. Keeping the revs high (even when braking) is essential for being fast in a car. So he brakes with his right foot, presses down the clutch, taps the gas with his heel to rev the engine, and then shifts down a gear.

[@vishalgovindan1073]

thats rev matching engine speed with the wheels instead of locking up of engine braking in low rpm.

[@Chirp_Fest]

It helps prevent wheel hopping in the rear end during heavy downshifting. If you’re a NASCAR fan, watch borris said foot work at Sonoma. It’s great

[@NiSE_Rafter]

The others have said it's to keep revs up but don't really say why you'd need revs up: the car will jerk when you let the clutch out after a downshift if the engine and transmission speeds don't match up, hence the term rev matching -> match revs of engine to appropriate gear on transmission. If the speeds don't match well then they will balance out and slow/speed each other down/up, causing a sudden rise in engine breaking and a sudden change in wheel speed would potentially upset the car as Tyler mentions. It's the same idea as why RPMs drop during an upshift, except you have to decelerate waaay faster than you accelerate so the effect it has on the car is magnified (entering a corner might downshift 2 gears all within a few seconds but you'll take much more time accelerating out of the corner and upshifting twice)

[@SecurityBagels]

At a given wheel speed, two gears translate to different engine speeds, so when shifting down a gear, to stay at the same wheel speed and not upset the car, you have to manually bring the revs up to meet the lower head at the right speed for a smooth shift. If you don't, the rear wheels could lock up or you could shift the weight of the car unexpectedly and upset the balance through the corner

you have to bolt it to the table. you can get the bolt layout online.

[@humthefinnan]

The shifter of G29 look good

[@cheetahcross1004]

its a lot more realistic for more of a cheaper car, like a 240 or Skyline, but if your driving something like a Lamborghini or Ferrari you'll either find paddle shifter or a stick shifter like the T500RS

[@etshArk87]

i find the G29 so strong as force feedback, real racing games don't even use half of it. why having a wheel with more torque if it's unrealistic?

[@antimensch6313]

Da.shArk87 The G29 runs with a 2,3 nM Motor, thats nothing. If you drive a real car, there could be around 40 nM strength on the wheel, in some situations. Look on onboard videos, how hard they have to fight with the wheel, that are definitely more than just 2 nM... DirectDrive wheels are the most realistic and use around 30 nM. The G29 is just a toy, nothing more.

[@etshArk87]

lol, keep in mind most cars have power steering nowadays. Take an example: Lola T190 = 6.0-7.5 Nm (55-65 in-lbs) No power steering, 318mm (12.5") Ø steering wheel Dodge Viper SRT-10 = 4.5 Nm (40 in-lbs) Power steering, 350mm (13.7" Ø steering wheel Get your facts straight before talking bull

[@antimensch6313]

Da.shArk87 I wrote in some situations, like a spin-out, where enormous forces are on the wheel. And if you drive the car, fast around the corner, the forces are also higher than on usual turns with slow paces. And i dont talk shit, if an oldtimer, like the ruf yellowbird or f40 dont use this new technoligy, like the cars today. On this cars is still a lot of strength necessary, even on slow parts of the track. What do you think, why prodrivers train with a directdrive wheel and not a plasticbomber, like logitech or thrustmaster stuff. They are still good wheels, dont get me wrong, but they have nothing to do with reality, in terms of the forces.

[@AlpernDrms]

Mate idk how much is these wheels on your country, but in ours, including the fines g29 is nearly 500$ and T500rs GT is 1000$.

[@TheNotFakeBot212]

Right now all sim racing equipment is super inflated so those prices aren't usual

[@sporehux8344]

in Australia the wheels have always been from $500 and up for force feedback models, i'm sticking with the G29 until i can afford something better than the T500rs GT.

[@Jimmy-jb5yu]

are you also in nz

[@moaimachines8290]

To be fair, there isn't a point in upgrading unless it's like a CSL or something worth the money.

[@magnussencube]

Spore Hux In Canada a T150 is $300 before tax

[@milesonewheelwinter]

I started with AG27 Logitech which I really liked. I upgraded to the T 500 and at 1st was difficult adjusting just to the different size period of had this wheel for 2 years with 0 issues and I use it multiple times a week so as far as reliability goes I don't know why anybody would say anything

[@ashittygamer7073]

i love the song

[@timmytubede]

I use the G29 together with the TH8A shifter. Works in all games except SpinTires, where they only allow one controller ...