Synthesizer Show & Tell - Behringer Model D (Minimoog Clone)

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

I am 74. I bought a Jupiter 6 when it was either it or the Sequential Circuits offering that had MIDI. I believe it was 1982 or 83. I had gone to some Roland workshops 2 years before and saw sequencing for the the first time. I had talked to Dave Smith before MIDI was adopted and I was give the heads up to wait.I was convinced from what I seen and heard that Synths, MIDI and Sequencing would kill the guitar, kill session work for soundtracks, TV commercials ...you name it. Keep in mind none of the equipment existed. There were no PC software or interfaces or MIDI in 81!!! I was a guitarist as well. I did not play keys or know how a keyboard was laid out vs. a guitar. LOL I just thought I could be a pioneer of it all or a victim of it. I borrowed Mini Moog from a friend who only used it on Saturday night gigs. I taught myself to program patches and then taught others how as my gig. I found eventually with Synths and sequencers that I did not need any 'chops' to make Industrial Commercials. Basically Infomercials for glamorous things like 'Boxcars' lol My best gigs were soundtracks for tourism commercials. As equipment prices etc. fell there became a glut of competition. I was no longer special. lol Soon there was no work and what there was paid bady. I went back to the guitar :-( But I now have a power trio doing my own material that is doing well. I would love put a bit of Mini Moog into it. So here I am!

[@JoeSmith-zi3bi]

Yeah I just bought one of these model D's. It's kind of like um wow. I'm completely blown away. I've got it midi to a matching pair of high-end Casio digital synths. A mixer board. A ring modulator. A nice stereo module. and again I totally Blown Away. it also helps the cat to decide to leave me alone for the day. Lol. I found that it is incredible to fade wet and dry between digital and analog. I don't think it could get any better than this. Good job with your video too and you give me some really good points on my first analog.

[@StephenLearson]

Joe Smith It’s still inspiring me way past my bedtime on a daily basis. Glad you are having fun with it. Play on, and thanks for watching!

[@JoeSmith-zi3bi]

Keep up the good work with the synth videos. There isnt a lot of you around. The synth craze died for a few years but now it's back strong. I always loved the synthesizers. Thank God synths are cooler than ever.

[@JoeSmith-zi3bi]

As for the expression pedal... I just now plugged it into my "Ring Thing" brand ring modulator that is on the output side of the model D. Quite interesting but yeah... My pedal does nothing either on the D.

[@tonyhill8963]

Unique and smart way to approach demo-ing a synth! The song was awesome, btw.

[@StephenLearson]

Tony Hill thanks!

[@BassHappy64]

I believe that the expression pedal needs to be turned on in the firmware via the controller software & USB. Also the pitch wheel step is configurable as well as note priority. Midi is also configurable from there as well. Its a basic program that gives you instant access to inner parameters.

[@StephenLearson]

Greg Schiller that’s awesome. Thanks for sharing. Where do I get this “basic program?”

[@BassHappy64]

Download from Behringer

[@hassanbayomy7566]

Excellent demonstration, whatched a ton of these synth demonstration. You by far have the best concept. Love the tune, thank you.

[@scottejohnson83]

I could listen to that track on repeat all day

[@StephenLearson]

Scott Johnson thanks for listening!

[@scottejohnson83]

@@StephenLearson You bet! Would love to see what you could do with a Deepmind 6 or 12

[@royroger1984]

lovely boards of canada-ish result! i just got my little model D and i am in love with it.

[@StephenLearson]

royroger1984 I never thought I would say this but Behringer is killing it right now!

[@devinbunn5130]

Behringer really is tho! They’ve announced ARP Odyssey, Pro 1, and Ob-xa clones on top of the deepmind, model d, and ms101. Kinda stoked to grab these

[@TROGULAR10000]

Definitely the best demonstration of this synth i have seen. You made some sort of dreamy trip hop song and it's striking how the bass and leads are so ageless and fit perfectly beyond the funk, soul, disco, soundtrack, and even house styles that spring to mind when thinking about this synth (or the original Minimoog). Since you got the MIDI tracks I'd love to see how other synths can be programmed to play that exact same song. That would be very interesting to hear the same voices as synthesized by, for instance, a Minilogue, Grandmother, a DeepMind 6, a Minibrute 1 & 2, and a Neutron. Would the Grandmother sound even better? Would the Minibrutes sound totally different but interesting in their own right?

[@StephenLearson]

That’s a great idea! Too bad I didn’t record any midi. I’ll try and implement something similar in future videos. Thanks for watching!

[@miguelesteves9740]

One of the most interesting videos about the D, good job!

[@StephenLearson]

Thanks!

[@digableskillz]

This was the most innovative use of an analog synth that I can remember seeing. Thanks so much for sharing. I e been debating getting a Model D for a while but I may go ahead and make the plunge now.

[@StephenLearson]

digableskillz thanks! I hope you take the plunge soon. Mine still gets lots of use

[@digableskillz]

Learson Peak I’m definitely gonna grab one this coming weekend. Thanks again. I’m very much a fan of your channel also. I’m new to learning analog synthesis and I dig the your approach.

[@StephenLearson]

digableskillz glad to hear. My cutoff knob has gotten a little scratchy lately. I would test it if you have the opportunity.

[@soundsurface4881]

A+ video production & content; you are obvi a genius, just saying, I know you won't let it go to your head, thanks for sharing! 🥰ps: Behringer: Hire this man & give him buckets of money!!!

[@alexdudley4497]

extremely well done video mate, really liked your break down of each sound. keep up the good work!

[@StephenLearson]

Alex Dudley thanks for watching!

[@skepticalbeliever]

All video demos should be this useful. Good job, man.

[@StephenLearson]

ScepticalBeliever thanks for watching!

[@JulesJenssen]

Yeah buddy!! Great rundown. Covering many aspects and it all sounds great.

[@crazygamingswede]

Really nice song you made with this thing!

[@StephenLearson]

crazygamingswede thanks!

[@hulkslayer626]

Wow! The only video on KZbin (that I can think of! I'm sure I've seen others...) where instead of "Ok, let's turn this and see what we get. What will happen if we do this and this together?" you know the sound you want and just make it happen! Lol :)

[@StephenLearson]

Hulk Slayer thanks for the kind words. I try to make the sounds I hear in my head, but sometimes I need to dig deep (for hours).

[@aprilcox871]

I have one arriving tomorrow, so excited!

[@MarshalArnold]

Another great synth demo! The newer MiniMoog reissue from Moog has the ability to turn off low note priority also I believe. But sound wise Behringer nailed it. Only thing is the high pass filter on the Behringer is basically useless, but that was an add on anyway so no sweat.

[@dylanmilkins4254]

Really sweet video. Definitely keep covering synths man, your great at it.

[@StephenLearson]

Dylan Milkins thanks!

[@tiagojnrm]

Interesting video! Just waiting for mine to arrive. Thanks :)

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Sounds epic. The fx adds to the experinece in a very complimentary way . Great video :-)

[@StephenLearson]

Adamski A. Thanks! I just uploaded a new one on the JX-8P today.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Steve Learson Brilliant i will surely check it out as soon as ibget the chance !

[@PietroTaucher]

first sound reminds my old Sem Two by Obehreim. amazing!

[@ericfricke4512]

Absolutely gorgeous brass sounds. I currently have a Sub 37, and while it is great, it doesn't quite specialize in the "sweeter" Moog sounds. It's also a bit overkill for the simple patches I like. Will probably get a Boog soon.

[@StephenLearson]

Eric Fricke the sub 37 is a work of art. I love them both

[@JoeSmith-zi3bi]

I picked a trombone preset from my digital synth and dropped it an octive then mixed it in with a stiff low ramp up triangle "I think" on the analog behringer model D.... Oh M G ! It's so Gorillaz like.

[@Almanacs]

I enjoyed your track a lot!

[@montorgueilrecords]

Wow! Just excellent! 😃😎 I suscribed! 👍 I need to get more of my Model D! 😁

[@jeremyrandall7228]

This is great. Thanks

[@Cam-qx2bq]

The best video of the model d I’ve seen so far. What reverb where you using ?

[@StephenLearson]

Cameron Desteno it’s Hall of Fame (Stereo) reverb pedal

[@Cam-qx2bq]

Learson Peak cheers man! Thank you again for the good video !

[@HMACYT]

Having issues getting the key priorities to change. Any tips would be very helpful.

[@StephenLearson]

HMACYT its a pain. It took me about 20 tries

[@xonnathagreat7644]

Great video abd demistration, here. How do you have it set up with your DAW. I have one but need to know how to hook it up, to use in my DAW

[@StephenLearson]

Aaron White I use a 1/4” to 1/8” adapter to send the Model D to my effects pedals. From the pedals it goes to my DAW. I’m controlling the synth via MIDI with an M-Audio controller. Model D -> Boss DD-5 Delay -> TC HOF Reverb -> Focusrite Clarett

[@synthsandstuff]

Nice way to review a synth. Creative demo too, like it.

[@StephenLearson]

synthsandstuff thanks for watching!

[@Sp3z]

I think that it's only possible to control the filter cut-off with CV

[@MediaMusik777]

If there is a midi control number in the D then assign to the pedal in the Axiom manually press the pedal and number will show usually 11 is default and you will have to change it to the control in the d. If berhinger does not midi controls then you will have to patch the exp pedal directly to the d with adapter since expression pedals are change in voltage or get a mooger fooger pedal mf-101.

[@hedi-triki]

Hi Steph thanks for sharing your amazing work ! I’m in love with the track and would like to get it. Where can I find it ? Best 🙏🏼

[@craigbrowning9448]

The Note Priority should be on a 3 Position Switch or Knob, or another DIP panel, along with the Poly-Chain.

[@StephenLearson]

Craig Browning agreed

[@nickynocknoo]

Sounds great

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Funny i have been plannning to do a very similar one synth one track for quite a while now with my synth prototype, but still havnt got round to it . Still listening to your demo is very inspirational.

[@StephenLearson]

Adamski A. Do it! It’s a great way to explore your instrument’s potential.

[@machiwoomiapoo]

Agreed. Do it!

[@paulbmorgan]

This was really good, thank you.

[@StephenLearson]

Paul Morgan my pleasure. Thanks for watching

[@lincolnmicrophonellc]

Great video thanks!

[@adamsmith7058]

Sounds a bit like Warp records from in the day. Nice

[@greatfelixo]

Sorry I know this is an old video so you have probably figure it out by now but can you not plug the expression pedal into the "cut cv" input on the synth. Great video btw just got one of these today and have been having a lot of fun with it. I have one question, when I patch the LFO into the cut off to get a pulsating sound it sounds like not all the oscillators are being affected by the cut off, it sort of sounds like the resonance is pulsating but not the entire thing. Any ideas how to achieve this?

[@SidJ8300]

Hi, very nice demo and the composition as well. Is that note priority thing solved ? Is that a deal breaker, if not ? Thanks .. 😊

[@aaron_gossett]

please help! i have the same midi controller and cannot get it to connect with my model d

[@SidJ8300]

Is lack of note priority a deal breaker ?

[@wakerickman]

just got mine same ,cant get it to last note priority, appreaciate some help there, also want multitrigering but dont know how to get both, tryed what you said and the led didnt flash at all ? i wish it to remenber once set, does it do that ? seems very tempramentle. manual is useless doesnt descibe step by step how to do both settings just says turn tone button on/off but not how you actuarly select between last/low/high priority when you switch the tone button on/off just says about holding keys but doesnt actuarly exsplain what you have to do to choose any of the 3 options available. love some help there ?

[@StephenLearson]

carl aylward you have to do it very fast when you turn the synth on. It took me about 20 try’s to get it. Once it’s set the way you want it will stay in that mode after turned off

[@wakerickman]

yes i believe so but i want BOTH multi triger AND last note priority and the manual doesnt exsplain exactly how to select wether last/low/high so how do you selcet what i want ie last. & multi triger, can you exsplain what i have to do step by step "idiots guide" so that i can do BOTH settings , ? manuel does not actuarly descibe how to choose which mode you want .the manuel just says by quick switchin you can select the diferant modes , but not how to selecvt which one. ok cheers steve

[@wakerickman]

i can get multy triggerong but cant get last note priority which for me is absolutly essential, for me with out laste note priority the synth is useless for how i play a synth, so any help there would be greatly appreacheated cheers

[@wakerickman]

the problem is the manual says for note priority "if more than one note is playedat at the same time,this sets which note has priority,the last note played,the lowest, [ default, or the highst "this is a useless/badly written discription of how to change the modes, it doesnt actuarly say how you chose from the 3 options, can any one help me here ?

[@wakerickman]

oh posted reply to me not you can you look at my last posting under reply to me [ carl aylward ]

[@piercemcintyre1327]

I think the only way to control the cutoff freq is through the patch bay. I've used the keystep Mod output for this and it is very effective. I wonder how you could have an expression converted to voltages for eurorack. Maybe it's easy I don't know. D

[@r19096]

Nice vid you earned a sub !!!

[@cesarvalerio4292]

Great vídeo! Congrats! Greetings from Brasil!

[@StephenLearson]

Cesar Valério wow! So cool to have a viewer from south of the equator. Thanks for watching

[@cesarvalerio4292]

Thanks body! Who doesn't love synth? You did great job in the behinger model d. Here in Brasil those still cost lot money. One day, one day...i Will get that beast machine.

[@77easy77]

super super super SSSUUUPPPEEER cool thanks man

[@StephenLearson]

77easy77 my pleasure

[@fumocamel]

i like the sound at 0:15

[@machiwoomiapoo]

Nice video! I bought the SE-02 instead. Take care, Sam.

[@StephenLearson]

Machiwoomiapoo how do you like it? I have some other Boutique models and the knobs are just too small for my fat fingers :p

[@alpharoom7663]

Great Review my man! But where to buy that awesome tshirt??

[@StephenLearson]

ALPHA ROOM I got it at good will ;p

[@-thirteen]

really good video

[@StephenLearson]

modcraft13 thanks! JX-8P is next

[@meneerjansen00]

Nice video man! :-)

[@TooSlowTube]

I see you were plugging your expression pedal into your MIDI controller, and I don't know what sort it is, so I'd need more information. Does your MIDI controller (keyboard) normally respond to that pedal? There are two different main wiring standards for them, but sometimes there's a mode switch to let a pedal work with either standard. I was under the impression the Model D filter could only be controlled by CV, not by sending a CC - someone correct me, if that's not the case. Does you controller have the ability to produce a CV?

[@TooSlowTube]

Not sure if it's something you'd want to do, but I could suggest a way of making a DIY box to let you make a CV with your expression pedal; You'd need a box with a 1/4" TRS jack socket, a smallish resistor and a 3.5mm mono jack socket, plus a way of feeding it 12V, so lets say a 2.1mm/5.5mm power socket, like on a guitar pedal. The resistor is to avoid damage to your power supply when you plug or unplug things - big enough to protect it from a short, but small enough not to have a significant effect on the signal, say 100 Ohms should be fine. Assuming the pedal is wired with the tip of the 1/4" TRS plug to the wiper of its pot and the sleeve and ring to either end of the track of the pot, take +12V from the power socket, via the smallish resistor, to the ring connection of the 1/4" TRS socket. Wire the sleeve contact of the 1/4" socket to the sleeve contact of the 3.5mm mono jack socket and the ground connection of the power socket, and wire the two tip contacts of the sockets together. The other way the pedal might be wired is with the ring wired to the wiper of the pot, and the two ends of the track wired to the tip and sleeve - it would be best if you could check, with a multimeter. Either way, wire the box to match - ground goes to the sleeve, 12V goes where it needs to go to connect to the other end of the track (through the safety resistor), then the signal is taken from where it needs to come from (tip or ring of the 1/4" jack), to the tip connection of the 3.5mm mono jack socket. This makes more sense if you sketch the connections on a piece of paper. Feed power to the box and the Model D via a guitar pedal daisy chain / power splitter lead - I'm assuming the Model D power socket is the same sort, but I've never seen one, so you might need some other sort of adapter. Plug the expression pedal into the new box, and run a 3.5mm patch lead from it to the filter cut off CV input of the Model D.... Maybe try it with a multimeter first, to see what voltage you're getting, as you move the pedal Maybe close the filter with the cut off knob, so you notice the effect, or close it half way so you can check you can open or close it with the pedal. If there's a limit on the size of the CV you're allowed to feed it, you'll need a larger resistor in series with the track of the pot in the pedal - not just the small safety one. E.g. if you want to limit it to 6V, use a resistor the same value as the track of the pot - measure it, with a multimeter. It's easy enough to swap a resistor later, so I'd probably start with that. If you want to increase the voltage, you could just solder a smaller resistor in parallel, afterwards.

[@StephenLearson]

TooSlowTube I tried plugging it into the CV but I think it needs a powered signal.

[@TooSlowTube]

Yep. As per my much longer post, you'd need to take the 12V going into the module (e.g. with a power splitter cable), and feed it into a powered adapter box. It would just be wiring and a resistor though - less complicated than I probably made it sound.

[@StephenLearson]

TooSlowTube thanks for the suggestions. If I make any headway I’ll let you know ;)

[@TooSlowTube]

You're welcome, Steve. I've since managed to get hold of one, and made a start on reading the manual. They give the allowed CV ranges in the Specifications section, and it's 0-5V, for the filter cut off. They also say to stay within the specifications, so... A resistor would work, but a 5V regulator would work better, and would still give 5V out with different spec pedals (i.e. different value pots, in the pedals). There are some nice small modules on ebay, for a couple of dollars, which can give you 5V from the 12V supply. I'd still use a smallish resistor between that and the power connection to the pedal socket though. When you plug a jack plug in, you tend to short the adjacent connnections together. A 100 Ohm resistor still seems reasonable - that would give you 50mA (from 5V / 100 Ohms) if you shorted it out, which won't damage anything. I may try it myself, soon. I bought some salvaged mod and pitch bend wheels, on ebay, recently.

[@TooSlowTube]

Does it remember the note priority once you've set it, or is that something you have to do every time you turn it on?

[@StephenLearson]

TooSlowTube it remembers

[@TooSlowTube]

Good. Thanks. I read that part of the manual, after seeing your video, and I still wasn't sure. It does seem error prone. I prefer it to the way Arturia did it with the Minibrute though - you need their software and a USB cable to change those sort of settings, so it's going to be a problem in the future, after upgrading or ditching Windows. Presumably Arturia used sysex, but they never revealed the codes, AFAIK.

[@StephenLearson]

TooSlowTube cool tip for the Brute. I just did what you said and now mine is sliding and gliding

[@TooSlowTube]

Excellent. I'm glad it worked for you, Steve. I expect all that's "explained" in the manual, but I have to admit, I can't make much sense of some of it. I'm still trying to work out if that could be done on the original Minimoog Model D, or only on the Miniboog. Those two switches don't appear on any patch sheets I've seen, for the original, so maybe not.

[@roulonsroulons]

Ciao!! I have one and I think it's a great instrument but... I cannot change the note priority, I follow the procedure in the manual but nothing happens, the light doesn't flash three times and the priority is always to the lower note. How to solve this issue? Have you some more informations about this problem? Thank you!

[@StephenLearson]

roulonsroulons it’s finicky. I had to turn it off and on about 20 times to get it set right. Keep trying and let me know if you get it!

[@roulonsroulons]

I get it! The procedure must be done very quickly and finished before hearing the sound of the A-440, I think within about fhe first 3 seconds of turning on the power not within 5 seconds as written in the manual. The multi-trigger works and I've changed the note-priority, I am very glad to have purchased this instrument. Thanks and congratulations for your very useful video. From Italy, ciao!!!

[@DocTheopolis]

Really nice!

[@StephenLearson]

DocTheopolis thanks!

[@DocTheopolis]

Steve Learson Also, for me, your video was much like a tutorial, by explaining how some of your sound emulations were created. Thanks!

[@DocTheopolis]

3 more things: 1.) Hope you get that Pedal for the Filter Cutoff working, 2.) that Synthetic Trombone ensemble at 10:41 is (for lack of better words) AWESOME!!! 3.) Your tune is nice as is, but kinda wonder what would adding lyrics do? A HIT

[@StephenLearson]

DocTheopolis thanks! I haven’t had any luck with the expression pedal,

[@DocTheopolis]

@@StephenLearson This is still the best Model D Demo out there, as of yet! But also, have you considered using a CV Pedal going directly into the Model D's 'Cut CV'?

[@davidgoode7416]

Awesome!

[@craigbrowning9448]

It's too bad they couldn't have put the Note Priority on a 3 Position Switch. I like the Top Note Priority (mine defaults to Bottom Note Priority at this time), so you get a Mono-Synth lead and have Polyphonic Voices underneath it for harmony. It's too bad the Poly Chain couldn't be used in conjunction with a Polyphonic MIDI source, but only have the Behringer Model D as the Lead Voice.

[@zacharykondas9787]

Good vids keep it up

[@2ES_]

bravo.

[@StephenLearson]

2ES thanks for watching!

[@christophermarx9481]

I'm going to have to break down and buy one. There rather inexpensive compared to Moog.

[@StephenLearson]

christopher marx I’m considering picking up the SE-02. The Model D is awesome, but from the looks of it, the SE-02 is very similar except you can save patches. After owning the Model D for some time I find myself wishing I could save some of the strange sounds I’ve made

[@christophermarx9481]

@@StephenLearson I didn't know that, I need to research more. But, I'm definitely getting the Behringer MS-101, it's actually cheaper than buying a Roland SBX 1 synch box for my vintage blue SH 101. My baby!! The MS101 is a clone and sounds so darn close to an original Roland, plus it has built in USB and midi.

[@eugenelayton5231]

Yes, it makes a lot of noise.

[@stephenkrus]

👍

[@markorendas1790]

HMMMM. HIDDEN FUNCTION!!! ALSO WHAT KIND OF REVERB AND DELAY ARE YOU USING... ALSO EXCEPTIONAL DRUMMY SOUNDS!! YEP.... I DIG IT

[@StephenLearson]

Mark Orendas reverb is just a stock pro tools plugin. Thanks for watching!

[@jordanlopez3396]

Yeahman

[@kipptumor]

That note priority issue really ruined this synth for me. I foolishly expected "held note" priority, which most monosynths just do - Not this one.

[@ChamiCh]

is that not the same as 'last' priority mode, which the boog supports?

[@valdiskrebs566]

You forgot to stand on your head while switching the low note priority... 🤣 Thanks for exposing the pain-in-the-ass “features” of this synth.

[@StephenLearson]

Valdis Krebs lol, anytime

[@PINKFL0YD-s2h]

AMM cost as much as a car new! This is what 300 pounds!

[@StephenLearson]

STAGGERLEE AMM? Does that stand for Automobile Money Machine?

[@nalaeel219]

Behringer model on Deez nuts

[@mpmi7588]

Beat is nasty

[@JCBigCat]

Nice video and playing, but it’s not a clone.

[@williamgeorgefraser]

Why in fuck's name would you buy a synth to make drum sounds when you can buy a drum synth? Nobody ever bought a Minimoog to do drums.

[@StephenLearson]

williamgeorgefraser It’s good to hear you have an open mind.

[@soundsurface4881]

@@StephenLearson 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣