Syr Konrad, Yarok, Kess, Edric -

Syr Konrad slug (Sequeira's brew), Yarok combo (based on Cobblepott's brew), Consultation Kess (Cardoso's brew), Edric Turns (Baal's brew)
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[@MTGMuddstah]

I love the intros for each of the decks! They're so well done and polished.

[@SplitSecond]

Yaas Baal and Sequeira, UNITE!

[@patoleapipows]

OmG, the legendary generic goblin noise is here!!

[@andrewburger1019]

That Syr Konrad deck is spicy!

[@SplitSecond]

Sequeira loves pepper ;P

[@bigdon9999]

That Conrad deck is beautiful. And oh mama that morality shift into kozilek was a joy

[@atilalexander]

The overlay work is insane! I loved the fact that I could see the cards going into the graveyard with the Wheel of Fortune effect, and them moving slowly 1 by 1 was also perfect!

[@SplitSecond]

Thank you for the feedback! We're glad someone noticed! :3

[@ThePestilentDefiler]

Nice production and narration! It really goes a long way!

[@jeanvictor4723]

Adoro o canal de vocês!! Parabéns pelo excelente conteúdo

[@SplitSecond]

Obrigado Jean Victor!

[@hiddenleaf414]

Just came across this Commander/EDH channel from this video! Awesome content!

[@SplitSecond]

Thank you very much for the feedback! Check out the other videos. Every friday we upload new stuff :)

[@MTGSavage]

I have that Konrad deck but mine is slighty different but the same concept with kozilik and people that have never seen the deck never see it coming, it's awesome.

[@xcluchx]

Awesome!

[@SplitSecond]

Thank you!

[@Guten101]

No Joke, Ayara is a beast of a commander too!

[@Tyler-ke1ue]

My Syr Konrad deck plays similarly to this one! I love when I get to use my morality shift combo, it's deadly and can come from nowhere!

[@mosselliadelt]

Same, I run mindcrank, the basalt /orb combo and morality shift in my Konrad deck

[@XpPotions]

I'd make a dumb comment about Sequeira killing people with cotton candy and lollipop but mostly I'm just laughing at "we all groan, but only I kinda meant it"

[@Nailgraizer]

Cholula used to be my favorite way to spice stuff up, but now it's Sequeira.

[@NCimNeo]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@patoleapipows]

Vcs estão fazendo um ótimo trabalho. Parabéns pelo inglês, inclusive.

[@SplitSecond]

Obrigado! :) só queremos que a comunidade de Commander cresça e que se perca um pouco o estigma de "cEDH" e do que é viável em "cEDH"

[@patoleapipows]

@@SplitSecond minha LGS começou com cEDH agora, estou me adaptando, vcs são minha referência haha Obrigado pelo feedback

[@WillianMates]

"A tipical Cardoso consultation" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@behemoth1158]

SLAMS a dread precense only to hear the satisfying BOOM of cardoso SLAMMING his counterspell

[@eildonp]

Adoro o vosso canal! Gostaria de saber se jogam nalguma loja conhecida? Continuem o ótimo trabalho! :D

[@SplitSecond]

Olá Lourenço, ficamos contentes por gostares do nosso canal! Nós costumamos jogar na Arena Porto ;)

[@eildonp]

@@SplitSecond ah pena não serem de Lisboa, se não até podíamos combinar um jogo haha 😄

[@SplitSecond]

@@eildonp é uma questão de se combinar se algum de nós visitar a cidade do outro ;)

[@alphalemon7532]

Aside from the mistakes others in the comments have mentioned, exiling a creature with Scooze when Konrad was on board should have net 0 life for Baal since it's +1 from Ooze and -1 from Konrad. Rest of the video was totally stellar, congratulations to Sequiera for winning with such a unique deck!

[@SplitSecond]

Hi, I don't know what errors are you mentioning. After reviewing the only error found is at 16:50, when Baal Exiles Ayara and loses 1 life, as he should have stayed with the same HP. Actually, all the creatures Baal fed to scooze from HIS graveyard DO give him +1 life, because the clause of pinging when leaving the GY from Konrad affects only creatures leaving Sequeira's GY. We knew that and that's why sometimes Baal plays creatures for fodder, like the turn he played Dryad Arbor and Boreal Druid, this way one would be sacced, and he could eat it up for +1 HP. We knew that, and Baal did too, although while editing it skiped him that activation at 16:50

[@alphalemon7532]

@@SplitSecond Oooh my bad, I though Konrad affected all creatures leaving graveyards not just yours.

[@SplitSecond]

@@alphalemon7532 Ya no problem! ;) There's a lot of words on that card, it's easy to misread that small part.

[@gustavomartinsdesouza5548]

Amazing XD but so many consultation pacts combos, its a little sad that dimir afiliated colors got that much narrow minded =( hope that at least consultation or pact (or oracle, but I would be sad) be dealt with soon... Alas, loved Konrad. I use another brew much wierder where my goal is to feed my grave with self mill then exchange everything with Inverter of Truth / Forever Young / Gravepurge HAHA

[@SplitSecond]

That seems a valid strat as well.. Join us at our discord and you can discuss some spicey stuff with us :)

[@gangrel1234]

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[@oneof13forestpeople97]

Why Cardoso used Demonic Consultation without having Thassas Oracle ready makes no sense in my head

[@SplitSecond]

By the time we recorded this Video Cardoso wasn't running Thassas's Oracle yet. By that time his deck's lines were Consultation into Jace, then consultation from Graveyard again, although, at that point in the game he was having problems with the color of mana he could produce so he was mostly digging for a way out and to survive longer.

[@patrickdavis8271]

Joao had the win at 7:41 with Demonic Consultation and Laboratory Maniac. Why didn't he mill his deck for a turn 7 win instead of fetching Wheel of Fortune?

[@SplitSecond]

This was played long ago, but if we call correctly he pulled Demonic consultation from Lim'dul's vault, so he had drawn the card for turn already (consultation) had Baal not missteped the cast from hand he could have won, but after that, casting if from the Graveyard and milling himself, and hoping for the Labman to survive a turn cycle was too dangerous, as we all could try to remove it, so he went for a safer way to refill his hand since he was out of options.

[@patrickdavis8271]

@@SplitSecond I understand. Thank you for clearing that up. :)

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

Does that Syr Konrad deck have Tainted Strike in it?

[@SplitSecond]

It doesn't, but it sure seems like an interesting tech! :) (you can check the list in the video description)

[@pedrosequeira9829]

I've considered infect for him a few times, but I'd need to cast it when I'm sure I'll take the table out, and that's not always guaranteed. Maybe permanent infect could work better, like cycling Void Beckoner on someone's turn and milling on your turn

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

Yeah that's true. Phyresis and grafted exoskeleton seem like dead draws without Konrad as all of the other pingers are life lost instead of damage dealt.

[@15brener]

Vocês são brasileiros ou portugueses?

[@SplitSecond]

Somos Portugueses :)

[@bryanlim9817]

I play Edric and I notice that the Edric player deck is not explosive enough. By turn 5/6, his board should be full and drawing 4-5 cards per turn and then take multiple turns in a row.

[@stealthsuitVX20]

How can he build a board state with the fiend in play ? Smh

[@SplitSecond]

Yeah they couldn't grow because of the Archfiend saying "no"

[@BaalRoi]

Well, Edric can be explosive, yes, but depending on the pod, it must take on different roles. Sometimes you must play slower and have some interaction up, because you will simply not be able to race the other faster decks. In this case, I had a slower start with lack of landdrops, which I risked in order not to mull to 6, and I rather have Scooze to prevent Kess from going off, and then there was an early Archfiend preventing me from dumping my creatures, and then after the wheel I flooded rly hard, I drew around 6~Lands!

[@justjaison1191]

Not that it influenced the outcome of the game at all but the archfeind should have been exiled upon Luis leaving the game. . 800.4a When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. If the player who left the game had priority at the time they left, priority passes to the next player in turn order who’s still in the game. Example: Alex casts Bribery, which reads, “Search target opponent’s library for a creature card and put that card onto the battlefield under your control. Then that player shuffles their library,” targeting Bianca. Alex puts Serra Angel onto the battlefield from Bianca’s library. If Bianca leaves the game, Serra Angel also leaves the game. If, instead, Alex leaves the game, Serra Angel is exiled.

[@cabal.]

"AND any effect that give that player control of any object or player end". That's the important part. It wasn't a misplay

[@justjaison1191]

@@cabal. read the example provided by wotc in the rules

[@SplitSecond]

If you check our video #01 you'll see a similar example, where we exiled a card that had been "gilded draked", as we had the same thought process you have. But we were misinterpreting that specific rule (the comment is pinned on that video). As you read the rule, you'll see "any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end" and I believe this will cease the control of the mentioned card, giving it back to his owner. From our understanding and the judge we asked about it, the card returns to his owner. The "exile" clause is for different cases, we can't recall which, but since you mentioned this we'll ask other judges as well.

[@SplitSecond]

Been at the judges' chat, just to have a "second opinion", and the control over the creature (gained by gilded drake's triggered ability) ends, so the creature comes to his previous controller! The cases where it is exiled are cases like the one in the rule's example, with Bribery, because it had no previous controller! That's why it is exiled instead.

[@justjaison1191]

@@SplitSecond yeah it only gets exiled if it had no previous controller, through bribery, preator's grasp, (Gonti, Lord of luxury),etc...

[@typicaldutchgaming8667]

But why didn't baal cast his commander?

[@SplitSecond]

Archfiend was allowing only 2 creatures to stay on the board, and as an Edric player you want to cast it when you have more creatures out to take more advantage from him than the other opponents could. In this game everyone else had as many or more creatures than him in the beginning which led him to play a slower grindier game. Having him out early would give more cards to the opponents than to him.

[@Dadeadlydonut]

Aren’t any creatures you own but are under another players control exiled when that player dies?

[@SplitSecond]

No, that's a common misinterpretation of the rules, if you scroll down to Jaison King's comment you have your answer. It's like a layer that says "creature X is controlled by player 3", then when player 3 leaves the game all "any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end", so that "layer" ceases to exist and the last Controller of that object gains control over it. (only in cases where the object had no previous controller they are exiled (because they were put into play by a different effect).

[@Dadeadlydonut]

SplitSecond sweet thanks bro I’ve been having my creatures get exiled for that past year man that’s a breathe of fresh air for sure cheers I love your guys gameplay I like how you speak thoughts on everything too

[@Dadeadlydonut]

SplitSecond how does that interact if someone steals creatures out of graveyard, is it the same as if they bribery you as you never owned them

[@SplitSecond]

@@Dadeadlydonut sorry we didn't see your comment earlier. Yes in that case it is similar to Bribery so it gets exiled :)

[@DalvaWolf]

Why is he activating his sailor with green mana? :l

[@BaalRoi]

Can you pin-point the timestamp of the video? Or even the turn?

[@DalvaWolf]

14:06

[@DalvaWolf]

Actually that’s the only time, just realized the island on the next time

[@BaalRoi]

@@DalvaWolf I used 2 blue mana from carpet of flowers since Brandão had 2 islands, and then used Cradle to generate 2 green mana ;)

[@DalvaWolf]

Ah I see, my bad then.

[@Eliarbreton]

When a player dies, don’t the permanents they have stolen go into exile?

[@SplitSecond]

We looked with the judges and if a creature gets stolen, the effect that stole ceases to exist and the creature returns to the previous controller. Only when the creature or spell was directly taken from the player's deck (meaning, he never controlled it) does the creature get exiled (Bribery is an example). We've had this question show up in our first game because we thought everything got exiled and we had to check in afterwards ^^

[@Eliarbreton]

@@SplitSecond forsure. I've been unsure about this rule for a while. thanks for the clarification :)