Hurricane Rubbers | Boosting, Review, and Comparison

[@kaushikpda]

Sergei's backhand shots --> Remembering kalinikos kreanga :)

[@sergeipetrov9141]

Yes, it is Sovjet/communist school :)

[@lullinhodual]

this is the first accurate video about boosting H3's on KZbin, thanks guys. This will help players without knowledge about boosting chinese rubbers. Keep up with the good work!

[@18yearsoldnot]

I worry though that they wrongly boosted the neo rubbers that were already factory boosted

[@LittleBU96]

@@18yearsoldnot no no no u can boost it again just remove factory glue

[@monsoonfu5655]

You are right. H2 is customly designed for Wang Liqin who was famous for his monstrous forehand power. Even the Chinese players admit it requires too much aboslute power to hit through the rubber

[@antonyang7273]

Finally you guys do equipments review on youtube !!!! cant wait for another blade/rubber review! cheers from INDONESIA

[@monsoonfu5655]

Nice Video! You guys have done the best review on youtube (QHD video + range of product + controlled the changing factors). I hope to contribute a video ideas: 1. Skyline 2 (Xu Xin's & Ma Lin's forehand rubber) vs Skyline 3 (Wang Hao's forehand rubber) vs H3 2. Blue Sponge vs Orange Sponge (For H3 and Skyline 2?) All the best!

[@Tabletennis11]

Thanks! We do our best! Thanks for the ideas!

[@garyfagan6431]

Watched this again. Thanks Alex and Sergei. Would enjoy your review of Skyline rubbers in the future.

[@Tabletennis11]

You are most welcome and thank you! Noted.

[@koreaface]

DHS Hurricane Two is sharper, more precise, has less room for error, and puts a much lower arc than the other hurricanes. The hurricane 3s (not the 3-50 haven’t tested it) have the highest throw angle out of all the hurricanes, hurricane 8 in second, and hurricane 2 with the lowest. Hurricane two is meant for close to mid distance loopers with long stroke and great technique. I personally use it on my back hand.

[@FaberReis]

So does Hurricane 8 have a lower angle or Hurricane 2?

[@koreaface]

@@FaberReis hurricane 2 has a lower throw angle

[@FaberReis]

@@koreaface I'm thinking of buying Hurricane 3-50 35 degrees 2.1mm, do you think it would be a more ball-feeling game with a soft sponge? I think the sponge of the h2 neon is hard.

[@FaberReis]

@@koreaface I will take allround + as board

[@koreaface]

With any soft sponge, you will get more feeling unless tensor then it becomes a bit more complex question. So yes you will feel a lot more vibration because the ball will sink in closer to the blade.

[@Wisstihrwas]

I played Hurrican DHS3, i pretty much like them. Yes, you have to work hard to generate speed and include all body parts for power. Just by focusing omn forhand acceleration and wrist (like german technic teaches more or less) its harder to controll that rubber and make it reliable. But once you master that, it gives you incredible control, crazy spin and good speed. The tackiness also helps close to the table, short touches, serves, flicks, counters etc. Now i wanted to try something new, but also a sticky rubber which is low price. Thats why i went Hurrcian 8 on both sides. You said it feels different to the other hurricans. Lets see. Thanks for the review anyways! Much appreciated! It was about what i needed to have a compairison on the sicky rubbers on the marcket (maybe include other brands aswell such as Rakza Z or Dignics09c so players have a overview?). Lastly i want to mention Sergejs backhand. What a weapon of mass destruction. Crazy power and accuracy!! 😵😵

[@danielingbiom]

I justo bought a few days ago an H3Neo for Forehand, a stiga Clipper CR blade and a Rakza PO shorts pimp for backhand. I've seen in several videos de versatility of H3 so although My padel has not arrive yet, i dont regret abt my purchase. Awsome video !

[@ndragon88]

Fantastic content! A real shame couldn't test at least the ones designed for no booster without boosting

[@jz8238]

Very helpful! Can't wait to see you next review without using booster!

[@Hybrid-ll5jt]

probably the first accurate video that i've seen of h3. thank you! everyone else has a completely garbage fh stroke and says things that are completely untrue of pretty much any tacky rubber. my question is, even after playing with both, what is the preference in dealing with the provincial blue sponge vs the national orange sponge?

[@Tabletennis11]

Thank you for such a warm comment! We hope to make more reviews with some useful information for our customers and viewers in the future as well!

[@Tabletennis11]

As for the comparison: in my opinion, blue sponge is quite a lot harder and without boosting it feels very slow ( too slow for me ). However, if you use several (2-3) thin layers of booster, the Blue Sponge shows its potential. The orange sponge is softer and is possible to use without boosting. If applying even about of booster to both rubbers, blue sponge feels great for the aggressive game (topspins; counter topspins from any distance), while orange sponge if more versatile: easier to block and chop, while still maintaining enough of speed and power.

[@Tabletennis11]

And difference between provincial and national rubber is just a matter of quality selection. The national version will be simply a lot more stable in the sickness and hardness of the sponge. I personally play with Hurricane 3 Neo Provincial blue sponge on the forehand side. Great potential, especially for my aggressive game. Hope it could be useful for you!

[@aleksandrsay4998]

@@Tabletennis11 what booster u use? I use 2 layers of seamoon and its very soft 39, glue first layer. What u can say about backhand rubber like h3 37. I read blue sponge 1° softer then blue...

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! We use Haifu Sea Moon booster. Recently we got different variations of that booster: national yellow and orange booster. So we are trying them out. Hurricane 3 neo 37' is indeed a great rubber for the backhand side. Softer version is used by many professional players yet and I think even more will with in the future.

[@clarencepsaila4743]

Great video! However a bit confusing in terms of boosting: Many chinese say that before applying booster you need to apply a THICK layer of waterbased glue, then booster (1-3 times) and finally glue again to stick. They say this is essential to protect the sponge - especially on the Blue sponge but also on orange. I personally boosted two Nittaku H3 - one drectly on the sponge and one over glue - I really did not like directly on sponge as it made it mushy and a bit less precise. When I boosted over a glue layer things were much better. The H3 I boosted over glue also responded much better on the second boosting (after 3 months) . I used Falco tempo Long

[@hermannulrichvogelsang6041]

Great comparison, presentation and performance top!

[@Tabletennis11]

Glad you liked it!

[@voberle]

Any thought about durability? As you seem all to be Hurricane users, how long do you keep one rubber before changing it? Or do you re-boost the same rubber a few times?

[@novasky9445]

2 to 3 month depending on how often you play. Also keep in mind that these rubbers should be cleaned after use since they are tacky.

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! Thank you for your question! The durability depends on the intensity of the usage. I started playing with Hurricane when I was 13 and at that time I was not using booster. I could play with one rubber for more than 6 month at that time. And then I changed a rubber because of tears and shabby, not because of the down grade of the playing characteristics. Now I apply two layers of booster and I play a lot more powerful, so the rubber lasts for 2.5 - 3 month

[@argentemacahasa7292]

Thanks for the actual testing and video..tt11 one stuff shop of table tennis..

[@Tabletennis11]

You bet!

[@ronnyreyes2084]

Hi there.There is a soft and hard version of Hurricane 8. it is less expensive than the Neo 3, only thing it needs to be boosted 3 times, 3 days!!!

[@edwardhochwand9063]

Absolute nice video with great quality.

[@dimabaikov]

Max, I am coming for you, loosing 10 quarantine kilos, so boost up glue up, put your best shoes on, hurricane is coming... vamos :) Great vid fellas, keep up! 👌

[@jameshamilton6096]

Absolutely love your refreshingly informative and honest reviews. Many thanks

[@anthonylewin6935]

I have just started using hurricane 3.50 and G888 on the stiga ebenholtz blade

[@marcosmusixpcmusicam]

Thanks, very very good video! I will try H 3-50 soft in my backhand...

[@Tabletennis11]

Best of luck!

[@AlanenJ]

For hurricane rubbers you should use 3 layers of an elastic glue like dhs no.15 for better performance.

[@SanchesTMRJ]

Review the hurricane 8-80 and hurricane 9 please

[@arashspirit]

Hi guys! Thank you very much for the video! May I ask which sort of rubbers you used: commercial, provincial or national?

[@coenslaughter4250]

Great video, should do a review on nittaku hurricane pro rubbers 👍

[@justsean_really]

What was the thickness of the hurricane and was it 38 39 40? I have trouble choosing the thickness and angle for forehand and backhand

[@frenkjansson7719]

As usual it was a excellent video. I should appreciate if you could go into details regarding boosting, ex is it possible to boost a 1 month used rubber. Do I have to try and take off the old glue , etc.

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! We will make a separate video about boosting soon!

[@MrMagJon]

Hello, fantastic review! I've never played tacky rubbers before and have no experience with those whatsoever. This is why I finally want to try out a tacky rubber to see if I like it or not. There are so many different options though so I'm a little overwhelmed with what to choose. I also don't want to go the extra step of boosting if not absolutely necessary. All the different DHS hurricanes, Nittaku Hurricane, Rakza Z (extra hard), Dignics 09c and so on. I'm used to playing with a Nittaku Fastarc G-1 on FH and Fastarc C-1 in BH. I'm playing an innerlayer carbon blade (xiom icecream azxi). I love attacking with a strong forehand. Based on all this, could you give me a recommendation on where to start my tacky rubber journey? :)

[@jprodriguez6343]

Dhs provide softer version or 37° version of h3 or h8. Do theses rubbers need booster too ?

[@Meurth]

This is a really great video!

[@Lawandfun]

hello guys, nice video! Which "eraser" have u used to peeling off the glue from the rubbers?

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! We used the Neottec glue remover sponge: www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-neottec-glue-remover-sponge

[@markkospukk7452]

Very nice and informative video!

[@kev988]

Good video may someone please tell me the background music used during the boosting of rubbers?

[@Tabletennis11]

Thanks! The song is called '' 9th Power'' by Henyao from @EpidemicSound

[@juanfeliz6436]

Great video! How do you reboost? Do you have to remove the glue and then do the process again?

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! Thanks for the question and glad you liked the video. You do not necessarily have to remove the glue layer to reboot the rubber. If when the rubber was detached from the blade the whole gluer stayed as a whole ( not torn and some parts were not left on the blade ), then you can apply one extra layer on the sponge with the glue layer, let it dry for ~24 hours, and attach it back to the blade

[@marcosmusixpcmusicam]

Please, add some Hurricane to the test! national, provincial, h3 pro turbo... etc...

[@adamszabo2139]

This is a very informative video to learn about DHS sticky rubbers, thank you very much.

[@Tabletennis11]

Glad it was helpful!

[@FILIP115]

Hi guys.....did you have problem with glueing? I usually boost and let rubber rest for 5 days.......it stick better after....

[@javiercardenas9987]

I've only tested the standard H3neo and the nittaku version, the latter being more suitable for everything with a more lively sponge. To be honest I watched the video just for the neottec voodoo blade, i already have the magic control and was the best purchase I ever made, maybe I'll get the voodoo just for fun

[@Tabletennis11]

Nittaku Hurricane really feels more lively if you compare it with Chinese Hurricanes with no booster. Also another big advantage you can choose thinner rubber ( especially for the defenders and "blocking" players ). The blade is worth trying I think. Maybe not as fast as modern carbon blades, but definitely great in control/speed relation. Classical 5-ply all-wood construction. That is why we chose that blade for rubber testing.

[@hamzah.france7612]

very good, thanks

[@Tabletennis11]

Our pleasure!

[@galaxismtg7722]

Danke!

[@ttjesus4959]

You can clearly see hurricane 2 has a lower throw angle than hurricane 3. That's the biggest difference between the two.

[@FaberReis]

So does Hurricane 8 have a lower angle or Hurricane 2?

[@MegaDimarik23]

ну не знаю.... как по мне так 8 самая интересная , играю 8 с двух сторон , скорости конечно не хватает , но всё остальное на отлично ( контроль , вращение ) основание Andro Treiber CI OFF и Yinhe M102

[@shangyuan5568]

you should try hurricane neo 3 pro with bluesponge

[@jackhsieh3955]

Is hurricane 8 have good catapult for backhand I am thinking to buy for my penhold rpb

[@NoTengoIlusiones]

What is Boostering ? Plase make video. Thank you.

[@Tabletennis11]

We plan to make one soon! Thanks for the idea!

[@markusmaier2325]

Boosting is prohibited. But everyone complains about treated pimples or stuff. Nice world 👍

[@gerardkirkpatricksanchez2121]

What is the purpose of Boosters? 🙏🏻🙏🏻 It doesn’t bounce anymore. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@verdadjusticiaymisericordia]

Hurricane 3-50 (37° degrees?)

[@markuskem579]

Great video!

[@Tabletennis11]

Thank you!

[@rocketthedogliu]

This is great content. Very through discussion and review. I personally would love to see comparison between unboosted Hurricane 8, 3-50, Rakza Z Extra Hard, and Dignics 09C. I currently play with a Sweden Extra with unboosted Hurricane 8 on my forehand, but am very curious about whether I should switch to Rakza Z Extra Hard since I do not boost.

[@leobattalora4495]

I agree -- some kind of review of non-boosted hard & tacky rubbers would be nice.

[@Tabletennis11]

Thank you for the suggestion! Seems like that is a really interesting idea! I think we will make a comparison with different tacky rubbers in the nearest future

[@Tabletennis11]

@@leobattalora4495, we will think about the possibility of testing without boosting as well. Most of the professional players boost the Chinese rubbers, that is why we do so as well to make a fair comparison with the German and Japanese rubbers

[@leobattalora4495]

@@Tabletennis11 That makes sense. I agree that reasonably comparing H3 to other rubbers requires boosting.

[@BilguunsparKO]

can you compare boosters ? like tenpo long booster vs seamoon

[@gold9994]

Falco is the best for me.

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! The effect of Haifu is stronger. We will soon make a video about boosting

[@18yearsoldnot]

Can we do skyline 3 neo next?

[@iceman_3825]

I am curious about using different boost and if it's legal to use.

[@Tabletennis11]

We will probably make a separate video on that topic. According to the ITTF rules, any post-treatment of the rubber is prohibited. But many professional and hobby players use it, as it gives additional speed to the rubber and it is difficult to detect

[@gold9994]

@@Tabletennis11 and let's mention that pre boosting is actually allowed. So I assume that many pros have their rubber pre boosted to their preference in the factory. Thus, it doesn't break the rule in any way. Like some tacky dhs and stiga rubber, they're absolutely unplayable without boosters. I believe the major objective is to prevent the top rubber from expanding, so if they boost the foam before assembling the top, it would be fine by ittf?

[@Mr2013skywalker]

❤️

[@МихаилВалентинович-я9г]

Почему именно такие харикейн взяли а не провинциальный?Чем у них отличается топшит?

[@novasky9445]

Nice review I really enjoyed it keep them coming please. What is the name of the song?

[@Tabletennis11]

Thank you!

[@kitaristi2000]

Hi. Wat is different beatwen h3neo h41 2.2 and h3neo h39 2.15

[@Hingvar]

Hurricane 8-80 тестировали? Интересует в сравнении с обычным Hurricane 8 на backhand

[@dmitrikonnov922]

8-80 - это хард версия что ли? От себя скажу, что играл и мидом и хардом - разница ощутимая. Мид можно в принципе не бустить, а вот хард - просто мертвый. Липкость гигантская. Зато когда хард разбустишь, а начальная липкость уйдёт, он значительно быстрее мида и х3нео.

[@Hingvar]

@@dmitrikonnov922 не, она так и называется 8-80, наоборот мягче, заявлена жесткость 37 и 38, там вроде чуть ли не тензор, типа Hurricane 3-50, но пожесче

[@dmitrikonnov922]

@@Hingvar аааа, не слышал даже о такой версии.

[@Hingvar]

@@dmitrikonnov922 в мае только появилась, чуть дороже обычного h8

[@FaberReis]

@@Hingvar So does Hurricane 8 have a lower angle or Hurricane 2?

[@ck-wg2hm]

Hi and thanks for this video. It is possible for you to recommend a hardness degrees for the Neo 3 for fh/bh for a fast attacking style ? Thanks a lot in advance - greetings

[@Srslyblack]

so wheres the part about boosted vs unboosted? didn't see it

[@conradfisher2563]

I recently tried Hurricane 3 Neo and it seemed very hard and I was not able to generate as much speed as I was used to getting from the Xiom Vega Europe I was used to playing with. I removed it after just one session nd boosted it, but I haven't tried it again yet. Does playing with it after boosting actually soften the sponge that much in your opinion?

[@nickkick7556]

It will soften it a little bit. But the man effect of boosting is that it will make the rubber easier to play, the rubber behaves more consistent and it’s easier to get the “crack” sound when looping.

[@Waingro808]

Softens it only 1-2 degrees on DHS scale, so it will still be hard. Xiom Vega Europe is equal to 30 degrees on DHS scale.

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! Thank you for the question! The booster makes the rubber more elastic, so in a way softer. The strokes become easier to perform, as you do not need to implement so much power in the active shots. But the grip and control qualities stay on the same level in my opinion.

[@Tabletennis11]

But indeed Xiom Vega Europe will still be a lot more springy, even if you compare it to the boosted Hurricane 3 Neo. Hurricane wins in the spin and control category I think. And you are able to give as much power and spin as you want, almost without any risk to play "out"

[@erkibass]

Which hurricane rubber has the least amount of smell that so many talk about?

[@novasky9445]

Hurricane 8 does not smell Hurricane 3 and 2 neo smells like fish and stinks your blade as well.

[@Tabletennis11]

Probably the smell you are talking about is the smell of the pre-boosted rubber, so the Neo version. In that term regular Hurricane 8 might have least smell. Also Hurricane 3-50 does no smell as hard as Hurricane 2 Neo and 3 Neo. That smell does not bother me to be honest

[@oeiwintoro2107]

Good videos....🙌👏👍

[@Tabletennis11]

Thank you!

[@trueskvoz]

which blade you used for test ?

[@Tabletennis11]

We always use the same blade in our tests, the Neottec Voodoo Classic.

[@davehess1982]

That is Hurricane 8 hard, Mid hard or soft???

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! The one we tested is Hurricane 8 Mid

[@AlexVo]

What is the weight of H3 after cutting?

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! Thank you for the question. The weight of ones I have is 46-47 grams. It may differ slightly though.

[@Golfislife420]

i hear the rubber gets better as you play. but i see cnt using a fresh rubber in every match

[@novasky9445]

That is correct CNT players get special rubbers that are boosted from the factory which breaks in the rubber. You can also break it in by playing with it hence the more you use the better it gets.

[@nickkick7556]

What the player did at 7:56 is that he’s breaking in the rubber. There are videos of CNT players doing this at practice. The rubber they play with before a match aren’t so fresh that it’s their first time playing it.

[@loechannel9757]

Why you choose neotec wood for the review. It's special? I am a curious.

[@wellbeingsupport]

Reason 1. Is they are somehow connected with the Neottec brand (maybe owners or co-owners). Reason 2. The blade is very well made, is balanced, and goes well with every types of rubbers (I own it).

[@steve44xds]

How thick is the rubbers?

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! We were testing Hurricane 3 neo, 2 neo and 8 with the sponge of 2.15mm. And hurricane's 3-50 sponge was 2.1mm thick.

[@timcable]

review skyline 2

[@НимбусКарлионус]

но хотелось бы сравнить как вы ираете против тензерной резины

[@nemanjamitrovic4821]

How can I order one pair Hurricane 3 50 to Bosnia

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! You can order them on our website. Here is the link for the Hurricane 3-50 page: www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/dhs-hurricane-3-50 You can add rubber to the cart and then proceed to checkout. Please write an email to [e-mail] if you have any other questions!

[@rockys7726]

Yes Hurricane rubbers give a lot of spin but they are affected by opponent spin as well. If your strokes are not fast you will be at disadvantage. So you have to make the perfect stroke on every shot. They are not very forgiving rubbers and are more suited to advanced players.

[@seguso]

hurricane 2 has much lower arc than h3, more deadly. hardness 39 is easier, 40 is very hard.

[@FaberReis]

So does Hurricane 8 have a lower angle or Hurricane 2?

[@seguso]

@@FaberReis no, sorry, it's lower than H3 but higher than tg3, tg2, h2

[@FaberReis]

@@seguso 39 degree sponge for Hurricane 2, it will be difficult to feel the ball in a very hard sponge, if I'm not mistaken, but Hurricane 3-50 is 35 degrees, wouldn't this be more controlled?

[@FaberReis]

@@seguso If you are not a very good player, 39 degree hard sponge can throw the ball out, I think it will be difficult to control

[@FaberReis]

@@seguso I'm thinking of putting the h3-50 soft tires on an all+ board so I can feel the ball the way I want.

[@georgesanguinetti8378]

Isn't boosting illegal?

[@karlbjerke133]

shhhh

[@karlbjerke133]

seriously tough. Yes its illegal, but there is no accurate way of detecting it, so players do it anyway. In my opinion they should just remove the rule, because it is giving players a dilemma of following the rules or doing what most players are doing.

[@z0uLess]

Would be nice to test more scientifically the difference between boosting and not boosting.

[@НимбусКарлионус]

да у вас там слой клея нереально большой будет

[@Axeo_98]

Не уверен что это был клей, сами китайцы говорят что это пребустер и сразу начинают со слоя клея...А уже потом в зависимости хотят побыстрее или нет наносят еще несколько слоев бустера.

[@Axeo_98]

вот ссылка kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqeYcqtjdrJ_hrs

[@michaelvanna8982]

Why boost when it is illegal? Thus many will use hurricane if they know how to legal boost

[@codghost4237]

the content was really really good! (but the editing makes me dizzle. Too much shake and transitions. swirling and everything. RIP to those with vertigos)

[@Tabletennis11]

We will keep that in mind. Thank you for your input!

[@dean5994]

这是明显的八角普狂hurricane，狂飙不灌油根本没有灵魂

[@عقيده]

I want wats up namber

[@SW-ci9zv]

Testing those in such a confined space is NOT a FULL test and limits this particular report findings in my opinion.

[@alexandra5755]

hm interesting quote about ''many top europeans'' players uses hurricane xD When in reality no ones from Europe top ten or twenty don't using them. But you need to sell it, we get it, guys!

[@jayb293]

that's why shops should keep doing shop stuff. there are many videos available that shows how to do it. i'm a H3 and TG3 user for many years now and let me tell you that you did absolutely nothing to your rubbers with that technique. or barely noticable. these rubbers are absolute rocketships when you do it right. this video is so cringey when we know...

[@Tabletennis11]

Hello! Thank you for your comment. Your opinion is very important. We are aware, that there are plenty of different approaches to treating rubbers with a booster.

[@jayb293]

@@Tabletennis11 then if you're aware of that, do a complete video of it or do it not. because it doesn't make sense. 1 layer does nothing.

[@Waingro808]

Try spreading love, not hate.

[@tab.letenni]

Lovely video, please show unboosted version :)