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@edteach3r2 жыл бұрын
I love this brand, steeped in so much history. I attended my first GP with my dad in 1968, and was mesmerized by he presence that Heuer had in the sport, being the official timer of that race and on the wrists of my heroes Siffert and Rindt, and later Peterson. It was the beginning of a life-long dream to own one and, when I turned 60, my wife bought me the Jack Heuer 85th anniversary Autavia reissue, harking back to the gorgeous Jo Siffert watch. It was a long wait, but I simply could not be happier. Maybe when I turn 70 she will buy me a Carrera to complete my grail collection? 🙂
@scottlalonde28782 жыл бұрын
Great story, thanks for sharing. I think 65 would be a better age for the Carrera! I love the discontinued Autavia Heritage Chrono, but funds aren't allowing. 🤨
@garyjohn19562 жыл бұрын
Say what you will, it’s a beauty. I love my TAG Carrera chrono. TAG does a great job.
@gasparghent93832 жыл бұрын
I think TAG Heuer have been doing a lot right the last few years, between the historic inspired Autavia and Carrera reissues, their smartwatch offering, and the new Aquaracers. It is a brand with a great history which I feel is often unfairly slighted. They have had some poor designs in the past but who hasn't. Good to see them making intelligent decisions and hopefully the watch community will react positively.
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
I think their cases and bracelets have always been well made, but their movements have been suspect, which is now changing.
@engineering_guy2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is the type of video titles we need. Not "Rolex destroyed by Tag" or some crap like that
@battousai97952 жыл бұрын
Wow, as someone from Mexico it surely was a nice surprise to realize that the name was inspired by something from here. We might not have any outstanding watch brands or watchmakers from here (as far as I know) so it's nice to see that something watch related came from here, even if it was something as small as the name of a watch.
@Nerdhaunt2 жыл бұрын
Chrono24 goes brrr 📈🚀
@jeanlefranc38172 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that you can live without a tachymetric scale on the bezel, after all.
@Doesin2 жыл бұрын
Nuh uh! I need my gratuitous numbers.
@MichaelandCathy19992 жыл бұрын
Very nice, but out of my Gelt range…..I’m still building my collection from Casio’s, Citizen’s and Seiko’s.
@BG-jg4pt2 жыл бұрын
First Tag ive seen and actually really like. I like the Panda dial the most though just easier to wear and a clean bracelet too
@geoffreyaugust02 жыл бұрын
The only thing I wish TAG Heuer did with this one is pay more attention to the small details. There are so many mirrored surfaces on the dial and you can clearly see the nice bright red hand from the top but reflected underneath is the unfinished and tarnished backside. That one small thing would drive me crazy.
@Ajeremy242 жыл бұрын
Omg i think the sameeeeeeee
@therustybezel71302 жыл бұрын
I saw this as well, unacceptable I think
@jacc888882 жыл бұрын
Would you notice it without a loupe though?
@zhaowei30252 жыл бұрын
@@jacc88888 you wouldn’t mind your car isn’t painted underneath because oh well you will never see it ?
@cheongit2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this CAN BE SEEN! Unbelievable quality control. I hope this is just a demo, pre-production unit for the sake of saving grace for the SWISS horologers.
@John_code2 жыл бұрын
Love this brand ! The diversity and the robust time pieces do it for me .
@lenherbert4922 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch and no-date too, it's called the Montreal, £5600 on Heuer website but discontinued? Cheapest on C24 is £4692. Speedmaster 3861 Master Chronometer movement going for same price on C24. Possibly explains why the Tag is limited to 1000 as only Heuer fans will buy it against the Moonwatch competition.
@TucanSam752 жыл бұрын
I guess date would only be necessary in 24 hour races 😅
@coolboy54282 жыл бұрын
Watchfinder is awesome saying the watch I buy is sold out but wanting to upsell me a more expensive watch.
@derekdurham18482 жыл бұрын
...or those that simply like it more.
@philiplauzon17432 жыл бұрын
I am from Montreal and I am very interested in the why it’s called « Montreal »
@hillogical2 жыл бұрын
The Autiva GMT will be my first luxury watch, don't care what people think of TAG
@e3dave7442 жыл бұрын
That’s a beautiful watch , I love the raised batten hour markers, nice size too 👏👏
@LouisMorales-zx3jm Жыл бұрын
Tag Heuer has innovation in watch making, horology history and race history til this day. They have Iconic watches. Not many watch companies can compare.
@fd66612 жыл бұрын
So much nicer with the TAG dropped from the dial
@donaldbandy70512 жыл бұрын
Man you are awesome! We’ll done sir!! Since you’re in the TAG vein…I would definitely ask you to review the new red dial Carrera limited to 600 pieces that was released just this last week, or even the purple dial Monaco, or the new Monaco Gulf special edition(2022)… all housing the amazing, Heuer 02 movement. That said… I’d love to see you review the HEUER 02 Autavia flyback chrono. Preferably the silver, somewhat panda dial, but even the black case, black dial would do. Same movement…. Hopefully they’ll use it across the entire family soon. And I’m sure you know, but most people don’t realize that the Autavia was there before the Carrera. And the Heuer Autavia (2016-2017 release) was the introductory piece housing the Heuer 02 movement. At any rate, I’d love to hear your take on any of the above mentioned.
@metallusmelandril73802 жыл бұрын
I recently got my grandpas Heuer Carera 1153N from 1971. I will forever keep this watch and once pass it on to my kids or grandkids. Love it so much and such a good pice to remind me of my granddad!
@LOrealHardly2 жыл бұрын
0:56 the underside of the Second hand reflected onto the Hour hand made my OCD flutter...!
@mastermindmanagement61902 жыл бұрын
I picked up the red dial, Heuer 02 Carrera 1964. I took off the beautiful black leather strap, added the black rally strap and ‘bong’ pure magic.
@ChiValryWu922 жыл бұрын
I love how you describe every in an easily digestible method. I love your videos and when I can, my next luxury watch will come from y’all!
@Jazzy_Jase2 жыл бұрын
I have the plain silver dial 160 Anniversary and love it. It’s much more subtle than this coloured version.
@Bugster9872 жыл бұрын
That is a great reissue
@BrittPearceWatches2 жыл бұрын
Oh MAN I nearly bought this watch. I tried it on, absolutely loved it! I just couldn’t justify the price tag! I can’t remember how much it costed! 🙈 I just remember thinking “REALLY?!” 🙈
@Cam_LDN2 жыл бұрын
£5,600
@sean1722 жыл бұрын
Yeah then you tried on a Rolex Daytona for 40 k and thought what a bargain
@peterfuentes58932 жыл бұрын
I agree it’s hard to justify that for a tag.
@robertposteschild23532 жыл бұрын
I love it when people who buy Rolex say they can't justify price tags of other brands
@bilal2862 жыл бұрын
@@robertposteschild2353 There is a reason for that. Tag Heur isn't known to be the top tier luxury brand that Rolex is.
@johnm51312 жыл бұрын
I had one in my hands, but the ridiculous thickness of the watch was off-putting. The staff at Watchfinder knows this too, since they tried to obscure the sideview. The crystal sits 3mm above the watch and it just looks portly. Why can't manufacturers make watches as thin as they did 50 years ago?
@Flywithwatches2 жыл бұрын
There are still JLC watches that still creates thin watches. I do agree with u that more manufacturers should create thin watches! Cheers!
@tamdam2 жыл бұрын
At least they didn't have MUH ROLEX in the title this time lol
@Julesacu2 жыл бұрын
I actually ordered and paid for one online when they first came out - and then cancelled my order when I found out what the thickness was. Shame as everything else about it looked great.
@corysekine-pettite17832 жыл бұрын
Even chunkier than my Seiko diver!
@RilanaKoendan2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Unfortunately the Heuer 02 movement is already 7mm thick due to the vertical clutch, so adding domed glass and display case does not help matters. The Autavia suffers even more which is why I never bought one, and assume the date on them does not help.
@avivscrewvalla2 жыл бұрын
What an incredible watch! It's stunning and perfectly proportioned!
@mrb3172 жыл бұрын
Great watch and great brand. Glad they are making a solid come back
@scottlalonde28782 жыл бұрын
I hope so.
@achiltsompanos4472 жыл бұрын
They need to make a solid case back! Pronto.
@Chris-mm5gi2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the look of this watch when it was released and really considered getting one. But the thickness kept me from going through with a purchase. I ended up getting a chance to get my original love (a speedy racing panda dial with the yellow accents) for a great deal and couldn’t be happier. Funny enough I think the speedy is a tad thicker overall but the case design seems to hide it better. It was a really close call though, since the Montreal really is an awesome watch with a great aesthetic.
@jameshoward9700 Жыл бұрын
The Carrera is a fantastic watch - for me the most pure and beautiful of the 'big 4' (Speedy, Daytona, El Primero, Carrera). As for TH, watch this space - they are one the comeback after some lacklustre years. But then so are Longines, so were Omega in '00s and even Rolex has had less stellar periods! Historically, Heuer was every bit the equal of Omega/Rolex when it came to sports watches and I see LVMH finally taking an interest in TH now they can see the ££ in watches.
@kfwimmer2 жыл бұрын
Please review Moritz Grossmann. Thank you
@alberto64392 жыл бұрын
🥇🥇Any petrol head that is into watch collecting will always love Tag Heuer chronographs or Tachymeters 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇
@khronokraze2 жыл бұрын
I've always like this one as soon as it was first announced/released. Love the Carrera design already. I have this thing for primary colors, too, so this one really works for me. It's just a fresh and different look for the Carrera compared to most other versions of the Carrera.
@Nachovalenti8992 жыл бұрын
Tudor BB GMT, 41mm of diameter and 14'5 mm thickness and everyone complaining that it is too thick. This Carrera Heuer 39 mm diameter and 14'8 thickness, the proportions are worse and not a single comment on it or the thickness. It's funny how the herd works when someone complains and the others repeat like parrots without having a clue. Curious.
@johnpinner12 жыл бұрын
Tag got me once not twice
@edgardo11662 жыл бұрын
This actually looks nice. At 39mm too.
@freddyt.96272 жыл бұрын
This Tag has the perfect balance of color and isn't over the top compared to others in it's class. Plain black and white tends to get boring.
@mikegeary21122 жыл бұрын
Fantastic watch. I totally agree about the strap. It just doesn't work. Unfortunately, at 19mm, changes are not so simple.
@TekindusT2 жыл бұрын
I’m OK missing out on a watch that can’t even get the underside of the chronograph hand painted properly.
@valter_vava742 жыл бұрын
exactly. nice watch, but that is inexcusable...
@jacc888882 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that even some of the Rolexes featured on this channel sometimes have dodgy paint-jobs.
@DavidWilliams-zn2nc2 жыл бұрын
@@jacc88888 am I missing something?
@jacc888882 жыл бұрын
@@DavidWilliams-zn2nc I think the OP is talking about the underside of the red chronograph seconds hands - in the reflection you can see it’s a bit rough. Seeing as it’s something you can’t see with the naked eye and I’ve seen Rolexes with far worse it certainly wouldn’t bother me.
@DavidWilliams-zn2nc2 жыл бұрын
@@jacc88888 sorry guys, I can’t see it ! I’ve recently started to get very interested in watches, & I like this very much 👍
@matthewm52872 жыл бұрын
My dad had a Tag so I know the brand always played with the watch but I can't get myself to love one. I have a speedmaster and I have my heart set on a Rolex explorer 36mm. I think that will be a great two watch collection the watch that went to the moon and the watch that went to Everest.
@santiagovillavicencio80732 жыл бұрын
The rolex explorer as we know it didn’t reach the mount everest it was an OP sir Edmund Hillary wore
@boop86212 жыл бұрын
@@santiagovillavicencio8073 Yes, it was an OP, but It did not make it to the summit(Rolex has conceded as much). That is an honor for Smith’s. The explorer is more or less a commemorative Oyster Perpetual.
@Armoer2 жыл бұрын
Get a datejust with fluted bezel instead. Same specs as the Explorer but in a more luxurious and elegant package. Your black&white sports watch is already covered by the speedmaster
@matt2m2 жыл бұрын
@@Armoer I don’t like dates or fluted bezels I prefer subtle. I am considering a blue or rhodium dial oyster perpetual 39 because I like the single batons on the 3 6 and 9 o clock.
@Armoer2 жыл бұрын
@@matt2m really great options as well. The 39mm OP’s are amazing and have beautiful color combinations. They are better than the explorer in my opinion.
@sergeyyatskevitch36172 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Andrew for this video about TH. This Carrera is quite interesting, but, if I may suggest, selecting a Heuer02 based Autavia, would be interesting as well, as it is the first flyback chronograph TH produced. It also wears nicely, as I can attest. I probably should not say what I want to say, but some comments below, about "overpriced TH", look pretty silly and a bit of plebeian. If someone cannot afford spending money on something, it is not really necessary to bash that "something", Bashing an object, which is unattainable, sounds like the famous Aesop fable about the the fox and the grapes. Generally, it is pretty simple rule: you like something and can afford it, then buy it. And if you can't, then look elsewhere. Otherwise, anyone can start complaining about overpriced Louis Vuitton, Rolex, Porsche, Balenciaga, Zegna, you name it. As Jeremy Clarkson once said about bicyclists: "work harder, buy a car" :) TH is a house with a great pedigree in motorsport and a bit in aviation. The house, which produced some interesting watches like Microgirder, which has the ability to time events to 1/1,000th and then even to 1/2,000th of a second. Not a small feat for a mechanical watch. Thus, when you buy a TH watch, you do not just spend money, you get a chance to learn more about motorsport history and watchmaking innovations. In other words, calling TH "overpriced" is simply telling the world around that you are too "old" already to be passionate about something. IMHO, as always. Cheers!
@htwm0122 жыл бұрын
I love how the Tag Heuer looks. I'll probably stick with this watch maker for the rest of my life.
@DavidWentToParis2 жыл бұрын
I love my Tag; a daily driver for sure except that I also wear a Zenith. But my Autavia holds it's own any day.
@samseo6642 жыл бұрын
just little more to hit 1m subscriber. way to go !
@alexandrosgiannikos97962 жыл бұрын
Actually I don’t like to be tricked into a video by a title. But I appreciate your honesty and transparency. And I love and watch ANY of your content anyway
@marklipson2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch. I like some of the Monacos. This seems like a breezier look. Something about it just seems right for beach and water.
@ashleyslingers28142 жыл бұрын
The red one release last week is amazing
@948706412 жыл бұрын
Check out the ROUE TPS watch. Similar design but in quartz and cheap
@R-Tap2 жыл бұрын
I love Formula 1, easy to love Tag. I have 2.
@thenotanclan2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Tag getting some love
@mrbookends2 жыл бұрын
Is the underside of the seconds hand not also red? Yeesh
@misufriendersts94672 жыл бұрын
What really throws me off about Tags is that they are for sale at Macy's, right next to the makeup department. If I was looking for great sushi, I would not search for it at Ralphs...
@Moissanyte2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only actual Tag Heuers I like are the ones drawing from their Heuer roots. Any post Heuer original designs (Or designs created as Tag Heuer) just doesn't appeal to me.
@scottlalonde28782 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you, Watchfinder. I did not know the racing connection between TAG, Porsche and McLaren. TAG Heuer is one of those brands I hope don't fade into obscurity.
@rych78526 ай бұрын
Ironically, its exactly that Formula 1 link that makes me love the brand.
@scottlalonde28786 ай бұрын
@@rych7852 🙂👍
@craigvancil44102 жыл бұрын
You can see the underside of the seconds hand reflected off of the shiny minutes and hour hands. It's unpainted on the bottom. That really bothers me that they didn't paint both sides even though you can't really see it without a macro lens.
@mrlong62672 жыл бұрын
This is actually a nice time piece. Still rather wear my speedy though. Lol
@LegatoStudios2 жыл бұрын
Can't blame you. Wish I had one but I still love my Aqua Terra!
@cc85302 жыл бұрын
good for you boxhead
@konstantin96152 жыл бұрын
I've tried this Carrera. Beautiful watch!
@TheDonCucaracho2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the AliExpress version with an ST19
@mattroach45542 жыл бұрын
The underside of the chronograph seconds hand is a disaster. Is it really that hard to paint both sides equally so the underside doesn’t look like garbage when reflected on other hands? Especially for that price
@alexandreneto76172 жыл бұрын
Stunning timeless watch.
@soapypen89982 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's not available anymore... Wish they would add it to the main collection, because most of their watches are way too big for me. This one on fhe other hand has good proportions, sporty but also elegant.
@raylang3392 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a few U-Boat watches evaluations as they are easy to get in my hometown. Thank you.
@joelpirela2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone noticed the crappy finish on the underneath of the red second hand? you can see it on the reflection of the other hi polish hands....
@aidaneloff53572 жыл бұрын
Great looking watch, but the underside of the second hand is unpainted. You can see it in the reflection of the other hands
@ronpower77902 жыл бұрын
This watch and its siblings would be spot on, if TH would get rid of the automatic winding...its really loud, same as 7750, which doesn't fit a 6000 Eur watch...also its too thick, despite TH did everything to hide that fact somewhat...still its too thick for the 39 mm case size...both things really bothered me to the point of selling on my 160th anniversary Carrera after only a year.
@timothyhoppen2 жыл бұрын
It hurts that the underside of the seconds hand isn’t painted.
@cheongit2 жыл бұрын
I am glad to be the 250th commenter and noted that after 240+ comments, I share the same sentiments as Geoffrey Augusto who ALSO noticed the unforgiving blemishes! I can't believe this is the level of QA QC after 160 years of "heritage". Even my "brandless" ZELOS at $300 did not have such bad quality control, not to mention having to fork out over $6500 for a "limited" 1000 piece run!!! Even the British limited 500 piece gut wrenching NIMS PURJA Project Possible from Bremont provided better value.
@tynchytemper96182 жыл бұрын
It's a pity that TAG ever stuck their moniker on. They're either called just TAG or TAG HUR nowadays!
@Jon-hm2wu2 жыл бұрын
They have some pretty watches. But from what I heard from owners, the movements are not great…
@NewtonInDaHouseYo2 жыл бұрын
A really good looking watch. But a price of around 3-3.500 EUR would be more appropriate. At the current price it really can not compete with the Speedy.
@stephenw17992 жыл бұрын
Tag is a great brand to buy so long as you don't mind losing 2/3rds of your money come to trade/resale.
@ridewith74802 жыл бұрын
Hello, kindly review SEIKO SLA043 or SLA017. would love to hear your thought about it. Thank you in advance
@LTC_Tiger2 жыл бұрын
I find it disconcerting that this watch apparently didn’t qualify to be legally “Swiss Made” and that TAG was relegated to putting “Swiss” on the dial instead, which means nothing.
@jacc888882 жыл бұрын
The Chinese are getting to be real experts at making quality watch parts these days!
@CH-yp5by2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch way too thick for Chrono
@zhicaofang23542 жыл бұрын
I've owned a TAG Heuer Link Dual Time for nearly 15 years and I loved it. I did get a Speedmaster recently but this video prompted me to take an extra look at TAG Heuer's current chronograph offerings, although I have two points of complaint still: the relatively large dial diameter (mostly over 42mm) in the chronograph line that drives smaller dial lovers away, and personally I think most of the watches are a bit overpriced - I would be much more eager to buy them if the price is lower by even 5%.
@tomasjemelik98482 жыл бұрын
3 days ago I found out that these watches exists...Day after tomorrow I will collect them :-) Nice video about beautiful watches.
@MrRoyck102 жыл бұрын
It is worth have a small industrial accident and use the compensation to buy the original Heuer but not a reissued Tag Heuer.
@Bugster9872 жыл бұрын
Got the silver version because I know what I like 👍
@valter_vava742 жыл бұрын
For that price, I would expect that the seconds handle would be painted all over, and not only on its top...
@I_like_YT_lots2 жыл бұрын
Save your money and buy the actual 2447, at least the white dial version is more affordable than the black or the Cs3111. This is a thick boy
@Youtubeuser1aa2 жыл бұрын
Is TAG considered any good?
@richieh4WD2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful watch. The dato 45 carrera is perfect in my opinion. But if these guys are serious about improving the image, they need to drop the tag out of the name and pull out of cheap jewellery stores. Back to the glory days of heuer
@jonathanl27482 жыл бұрын
I’ll have the Monaco Calibre 11.
@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh88332 жыл бұрын
I think Carrol Shelby had one of these too.
@RafaelV6 Жыл бұрын
Omg, I love this Watch so much. One day I Will have one.
@piotrkaczmarczyk17922 жыл бұрын
Excellent watch wich does resemble my old Heuer chronos from 70s. Even the outer diameter, originally they were around 37mm, so called jumbo size in those times.
@metallusmelandril73802 жыл бұрын
Wich ones you got?
@piotrkaczmarczyk17922 жыл бұрын
@@metallusmelandril7380 Hello! Carrera ref. 7853 (a bit bigger one, chunkier look) and more generic Heuer MG with ETA 7730, panda dial, also identical Kelek with 7730 but with reversed panda. All keep time excellently and are under regular maintenance. Greetings!
@brianhilsden28802 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Andrew, it captures the era you’re referring to fantastically. I had the pleasure and privilege of seeing Pedro Rodriguez and Jo Siffert racing when I was young. An era when motor racing was truly glamorous and this watch evokes that perfectly.
@GetOffMyLawnSKX2 жыл бұрын
This looks a lot like the Hamilton Intra-Matic at an enormous premium. It’s nice, but it’s not $7,000 nice.
@AK-pr2nk2 жыл бұрын
Tag Heuer make such nice watches
@stephen96092 жыл бұрын
I thought the Breitling Cosmonaut was the first Swiss watch in space? The stories seem to change depending on who you ask which is probably why none of the other watches are as famous as the actual Moonwatch
@TheBrendonian2 жыл бұрын
The Cosmonaute was the first Swiss wristwatch in space. The Tag mentioned here was a pocket watch as they stated 👍
@tivonh70752 жыл бұрын
Man that thing looks good. And the size is great.
@ngc-fo5te2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you see it in person - you'll (probably) quickly change your mind.
@tivonh70752 жыл бұрын
@@ngc-fo5te do you have one? The normal Carrera is pretty nice in my opinion. Is it worse quality? Doesn't really look like it.
@ngc-fo5te2 жыл бұрын
@@tivonh7075 No I don't own one but I did look at them when I was getting a watch - but as others have commented it is very thick and the crystal rises far above the case. From above it looks decent - from the side it's not very nice at all.
@tivonh70752 жыл бұрын
@@ngc-fo5te oh okay. If I see one I'll check it out. Thanks
@Nave6W2 жыл бұрын
We seem to be missing out on a lot because of these watches prices
@JM-ke1xm2 жыл бұрын
TAG Heuer wasn’t invited to space, Heuer was.
@seppa10192 жыл бұрын
Still think the Tag Heuer CV2110 is the best TAG
@Imaveryniceguy2 жыл бұрын
I'm ok to miss out on it.
@whereisvanuatu2 жыл бұрын
Finally a title not mentioning Rolex, finally I video I will watch.
@mik99D2 жыл бұрын
Where's Tom?
@SirStamford272 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch. I've always thought any version of this Carrera chronograph from 1963 is one of the most beautiful watches. There are lots of re issues of it. All gorgeous. ..... It should have a racing straps with holes though.
@jackiechan88402 жыл бұрын
The finishing of the underside of the seconds hand is damn right disgraceful.
@user-tt2pt1tu6s Жыл бұрын
I am a TAG Heuer watch lover. I appreciate their history and appreciate the beginning of their climb out of the darkness after the loss of identity for a while as a racing watch coupled with their scandalous and blatant lies about "in house" movement(s) when it was simply a modified Japanese movement. While I really considered buying this watch, I discovered I can't get pass the lack of attention to detail... the lower sides of the seconds hand is crappppp. The reflection of the bottom of the hand clearly shows they didn't completely use the red colorization. If they can't pay attention to detail to the items we can visibly see and are low cost, how am I to trust what's inside the watch??? I and very disappointed in TAG... TAG, you gotta pay perfect attention to the details to be considered half the value of Rolex, Omega and Breitling. My goodness... what were you thinking taking this shortcut, especially at this price point???
@tyvekhomewrap91642 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't count Leclerc out, he's probably in the market for a more budget watch after getting his RM stolen