Take your offer and cram it up your ass

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[@Abrxas01]

I REALLY wish Shepherd made a sarcastic comment when the Turian council member made the statement 'WE WILL TAKE ACTION!'. Something like, 'Like you took action when I told you Sovereign was threat? Or maybe like you took action when Saren was threat? If that's the level of 'ACTION' I can expect from you then I really have nothing to worry about."

[@roma540]

Ah, yes, "actions". The undetectable complex of Council's performances, allegedly waiting in the grey matter. We have dismissed this claim.

[@NeoRazgriz]

Now that’s a REAL Renegade response! Especially since the new Turian Counselor (of all people) reinstates him in ME3 😂

[@johnred9735]

I can actually here Shepard saying that.

[@x808drifter]

​@@johnred9735*hear

[@grinvich.76]

​@@roma540LMAO

[@habeeburrahaman257]

I love how my guy selects the renegade option even before the turian completed his nonsense

[@christopherhall5361]

"We've tried to be reasonable" ....when?

[@KingShakakil]

I mean Shep was working for a terrorist organization and they were willing to let him basically have diplomatic immunity.

[@bno6156]

That’s them trying, holy shit

[@nagger8216]

Even playing as Paragon I always do this, the Council deserves it and being a Spectre is basically useless in the Terminus Systems

[@godemperor436]

Specter is usless in 1 & 2 you can only realy use it mutch in ME3.

[@xXEatYourDogXx]

​@@godemperor436 No atleast you get Spectre weapons in ME1

[@gerhardjanssen6822]

@@xXEatYourDogXx spectre weapons are OP in ME1 even on insanity

[@xXEatYourDogXx]

@@gerhardjanssen6822 They are!

[@mrdiamond2157]

@@xXEatYourDogXx i mean you do get the ability to buy certain "spectre" weapons in me3 if you get reinstated in me2 but honestly not very helpful.

[@jakehanson216]

Mass effect is pretty accurate as far as politicians go

[@bignick2k215]

I love rejecting their offer. It makes the fight against the Spectre in the shadow broker DLC even cooler imo. A former Spectre versus an active Spectre but the active Spectre is the villain is a really cool spin.

[@lonewaffle231]

vs who?

[@bignick2k215]

@@lonewaffle231 I forgot her name but on ilium you fight an Asari spectre that is helping the shadow broker.

[@ZayIvory7]

Vasir

[@d.maxwell8669]

But the exchange with Vasir is better when you're a Spectre. Shepard: Spectre does whatever it takes to get the job done. Vasir: Yes we do. Shepard: But you're forgetting something Vasir... I'M A SPECTRE TOO *proceeds to shoot the hostage*

[@darthnox7958]

I can genuinely never save the council in mass effect 1, it's not even because of stuff like this (although it certainly helps) it's because it doesn't make sense, sovereign is a threat to the entire galaxy, of course you'd concentrate on him. Now that I've seen this video I'm even more glad I never spared them

[@12LoLproductions]

Destiny Ascension is probably the only reason to save them, besides being a paragon

[@givemeRtxorgivemedeath]

I save the counsel because I want to save the destiny assencient. Also the replacement characters for the counsel are worse

[@rena8215]

Saving the council is about thinking in the long term. You show humanity in a very good light, saving the Ascension and it's 10,000 man crew, plus the council. As such, the citadel races stop seeing humanity in the light they used to. If you don't save the council, you end up establishing either a very unpopular government (Anderson) or a straight dictatorship (Udina.) But you do save a good chunk of the Alliance fleet. It's all about point of view.

[@darthnox7958]

@@rena8215 I'm pretty sure if any of us were facing a threat like the reapers, we wouldn't be thinking " it's probably a good idea to waste ships saving the council who got us here in the first place putting all advanced civilizations in danger" You're talking from the perspective of someone who has played the games, but in the moment, you have to think that saving the destiny ascension could mean not being able to destroy sovereign

[@d.pedroii2940]

@@darthnox7958 Shepard could also think: "it's reasonable to save the Council given that they're the most powerful political organization of the galaxy, and although they have been in the denial of the situation thus far, it clearly can't be denied now. Once this battle is over, it'll be much better to have a centralized and respected government instead of an unstable galaxy without proper leadership unaware of the Reapers and how to proceed against them."

[@Mikeh2077]

I think it’s worth it for saving the ascension, and Tavos. But i would like to point out that giving the order to focus on Sovereign gives one helluva delivery line from Admiral Hackket. “Wait for a shot a Sovereign. Nothing else matters, I repeat, nothing else matters!”

[@juanrocollazo]

I'm split between how badass Hackett's line is vs how impactful it is to see the Normandy and the Fleet fly in to save the Ascension. That is such a heroic moment.

[@AimlessSavant]

Even if shep wanted to defend The Destiny Ascension I don't believe Hackett would.

[@Skullhawk13]

@@AimlessSavantI believe Hacket would WANT to but prioritize sovereign because it’s galactic extinction obviously we focus the squid

[@matro2]

This is why I support sacrificing the Council. The replacement turian councilor is quite a great guy.

[@Dasistrite]

This is the canon response.

[@totoroneblinny6100]

The canon response doesn't exist because they died two years prior

[@themoonlitquill]

​@@totoroneblinny6100what does that even mean? If not for Cerberus's Frankenstein Science, Shepard would still be dead 🤷🏻‍♀️ and yet, he/she's not, soooo....uh....the point is moot, all things considered. We both know Shepard wouldn't hesitate to face palm the council in this conversation. After everything he did for them, right up to saving their miserable lives, they repay him by spreading rumors of his insanity and fragile mental state? Seriously, way to thank the guy who saved their lives. So yeah, that response would definitely be canon 😉

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

I always choose it even on pure paragon path and pushing the eclipse merc out the window lol

[@ollanius_papyrus80]

Mass effect be like “do you want to be captain America or the most insufferable, trigger-happy and offensive person imaginable?

[@docproc144]

Basically be Captain America or be Soldier Boy

[@Alex_FRD]

Oh no, the Council died, what a tragedy...

[@matthewriley7826]

Considering it causes a lot more problems than it solves…

[@ClericOfPholtus]

Hilariously it's better to kill them You get more Alliance assets compared to the Ascension And if you still perfect paragon the trilogy run you get everything else still too Just tried it on the Legendary pack for curiosity sake

[@alexhulea2735]

Quite honestly saving the council or not, they still try to make it seem like nothing happened anyway. Shepard dies..... Welp, even if he was right, we can't be wrong. So reapers don't exist again i guess 😅😅

[@matthewriley7826]

And then you come to find out in 3 they believed Shepard the whole time, they just couldn’t figure out a way to solve it or present it to the public. So they buried their heads in the sand until the clock struck midnight.

[@s.o.q2914]

And who did they call when the reapers at their front door? ...oh right shepherd

[@chakinabox]

0:25 Oh no. It looks like we lost the signal. Woops!

[@ParanoidYoshi]

I think I'm the only Mass Effect player that considers the council reasonable, everyone else seems to love playing edgy antihero with them. They're attempting to represent billions of lives in massively complex inter-species and inter-system diplomatic web with vastly diverse goals and interests. Playing ball with them gives you all the autonomy you need with the added support of their approval. So what if they're initially slow to trust you? You're ranting about a vision you received around the same time you got a bump on the head when an exceedingly rare artifact exploded when you got close to it. Also in ME1 Cerberus are encountered as radical terrorists so the fact that the council is even open to a compromise is extraordinary.

[@bioticheart]

True.. but they're still assholes for doing Shep dirty when they died. They made them out to be crazy even though they witnessed a reaper attack. I reaper was in their face and the turian air quotes reapers.

[@ekulzonum]

What pisses me off more is the clearly evident gaslighting. In Mass Effect 3 citadel dlc when you enter the Citadel Archives talking about the Battle of the Citadel the archives mention how they know Soverigen was a Reaper. Even if those archives were changed after the invasion, they still treat Shepard like a psycho when Shepard is consistently correct and only until the third game do they finally awknowledge that Shepard has been correct before and they never trusted him. I get needing to not instantly trust Shepard, because the idea of every 50k years the galaxy is purged by killer robots is wacky, but fuck dude they dont need to be dicks about it all the time

[@ksingh66]

Well, in mass effect 3, the council very much has intel on the reapers after Sovereign’s attack. The Council SUCKS because they fully know Shepherd is right. It’s one thing to deny to the public to avoid worrying the public, but this was a conversation behind closed doors where everyone knew what was happening. There was no reason for them to keep stonewalling shepherd and denying the reapers when it’s just them talking to Shepherd. I don’t know what the Council was smoking, but it wasn’t reasonable at all. Reasonable would be “we know you’re right and we can’t take any massive measures, but we will do what we can.” The council is just straight up saying “you’re wrong they don’t exist” to the ONE guy they can be honest with.

[@davidstinger1134]

They are typical bureaucratic politicians that just debate and debate endlessly without ever doing anything. No reason to be particularly asshole-ish to them, but no reason to respect them either. Hell, ME3 is mostly about babysitting politicians into fighting the Reapers in a coordinated way.

[@1215298]

Here's an easy rebuttal: the Salarians had footage of a Reaper 20 years prior to Shepard even showing up, potentially even LADAR pings showing it's silhouette and when Shepard arrives saying Sovereign is a Reaper on Virmire, the Salarian Councilor *specifically* is the one who says the information "might not be accurate". So there's plenty of reasons to call them f*cking stupid...

[@Jdne199311]

After what we found in the Thessian Temple, the Asari need heavy consequences in ME4

[@AliothAncalagon]

Meanwhile in Andromeda: Ryder:"I don't like your idea." Some random officer:"There is no other way." Ryder:"Okay 👉👈"

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

The only reason I let the council live was because I needed more war assets. If I was all good on those, I would let the council die on every single playthrough (which i did on my first one)

[@darthbane2669]

I let them live because clearly the asari know the value of humans after all they thank their Goddess when the alliance arrives plus you are decorated in a good light even when galaxy thinks you are dead

[@pokeman5000]

I let them die everytime I played solely because of their response to Saren. They disavowed him and cut ties but at that point it was less of "dealing with him" and more of "covering their own ass". At that point the dude was proven to have influence over the Geth, had a MASSIVE "spaceship", and insane resources. So you have this former agent of the council building and army and a doomsday weapon, and their only response is "he's not in the club anymore, so it's someone elses problem." I see their deaths as freeing up positions for more competent members. Cherry ontop? Even after you save these guys they STILL play hardball with Shepard. It's only till the Reapers are literally flying to the galaxy that they change their tune.

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

@@pokeman5000 Exactly

[@Doogle946]

In my playthrough of the Legendary Edition I let them die and I was still able to secure more than enough war assets

[@Doogle946]

@@pokeman5000 even the Salarian Councilor's replacement agrees they were incompetent and is glad you let them die lmao

[@FurbleBurble]

Shepard: I eat the most dangerous beings in the known galaxy for breakfast and you presume to threaten me? Be careful of what you wish for Councilor.

[@TheKisj]

This is why i always let the council die in ME1 even when going full paragon

[@RG-zt4ox]

This is why I never save the council They will never change, the new council isn’t much better but they aren’t this bad

[@kuno3336]

You'd think being a Spectre would mean that there was little need for a trial in ME3. You are, after all, above the law

[@dragonquest8ftw1]

There's skirting around the rules, then there's just outright terrorism, what Shepherd did wasn't sacrificing a village or endangering hostages, but a near act of genocide, 300,000 lives dead and a system no longer habitable.

[@friendlyreaper9012]

​@smol_pupper123that's just me3 summarized. Stuff just happening because the plot needs it to. They don't even care that they make some characters act completely out of character if it helps progress the plot. Specifically the virmire survivor standoff and Shepard being braindead around Kai Leng.

[@yanisbaker881]

being a spectre makes them nearly immune to council law but, Shepard is still in the alliance so is still subjected to there's

[@Nulthazor]

Also the Sheer Scale is entirely different Spectres are above the law sure but that doesn’t make them immune to Galactic Politics and their consequences Saren led an attack on Eden Prime and as soon as he was proven he got his status taken out because attacking and trying to destroy an allied colony is a no no Shepard effectively destroyed a entire system which killed an entire colony with a large population. Spectres tend to be at most terrorists who cause reasonable amounts of damage. Not destroying an entire planet

[@troyjollimore4100]

He can the President from ‘Rick and Morty’ also be on the Citadel? 😄

[@siavashashavand4834]

>saving the council by sacrificing human lives The fuck?

[@LaFonteCheVi]

It helps humans in the long run by giving them a better image in the galaxy.

[@siavashashavand4834]

@@LaFonteCheVi which affects what story wise exactly?

[@animeturnMMD]

@@siavashashavand4834 Maybe when you need back up from all the races at the end? oh wait... that is in Mass Effect 3, never mind...

[@siavashashavand4834]

@@animeturnMMD i got the best ending without sacrificing humans for the alien council

[@danielpayne1597]

I have played ME1 at least thrice. I never save the council. Three leaders can be replaced far easier than seven star cruiser warships.

[@iamlordstarbuilder5595]

I disagree with 90% of fans here. Given the impossible scenario at play, the total lack of any available evidence to suggest the Reapers are at all a possible threat (why would soldiers not have a bodycam in the 2100s?), and given Shepard is aligning with a known terrorist organization known for espionage, sabotage, theft, torture, murder, and dangerous experiments involving rachni, biotics, and Reaper/Prothean tech, the Council, based on the data available to them, is still being as charitable as they can possibly be at this moment. I genuinely accept their reinstatement and consider it evidence that they still take me seriously even if they don't believe my claims.

[@sylinashi8761]

Refusal ending: Justified.

[@sjcobra84]

The council are kind of dorks. 🤣

[@docproc144]

The Citadel Council have gotta be the most useless characters in the entire trilogy. They ignore Shepard’s warnings for three entire games despite him having sufficient evidence to support his claims and then when the Reapers come knocking at their door they crawl to you for help. It’s astonishing that they’ve lasted as long as they have in their positions despite being largely incompetent. No wonder they give Spectres the authority to act on their own, because if Spectre agents waited for the Council to make a decision before they act, nothing would ever get done. Just absolutely useless. Really the Destiny Ascension is the only reason to save them in ME1, that and for the sake of Paragon roleplay.

[@mateusvaladares9364]

Shgepard is thicc in that outfit, gotta say

[@totoroneblinny6100]

You should see him as a woman

[@michaelrandolph6373]

How’d you get jacob’s outfit? Looks cleaner than I remember.

[@OJC]

It's a mod by Padme4000, I posted a Nexus Mods link in the description. It never made sense to me that Shepard wears N7 armor in ME2, I prefer to have him wear Cerberus gear - then switch to N7 / Alliance armor when it's time for the Suicide Mission.

[@michaelrandolph6373]

@@OJC I agree about the armor though I personally keep him in Cerberus armor (the assault to be specific can’t stand the color scheme for the inferno) the whole time though I occasionally switch to the collector armor.

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

@@OJC This is true.I got few mods that give shepard cerberus colors and the logo.Even changed his hoodie you get in LE edition in ME 2 to have cerberus logo and colors instead of N7.Makes no sense shepard still wearing N7 and alliance outfits in ME 2. Lack of cerberus themed outfits for real.

[@TargetFinder72]

@@johnnyboogalo4897 Interesting. I always wear the hoodie cause I can't stand to wear the Cerberus clothes/armor (I love the assault armour just hate the Cerberus paint job). Interesting to see the other perspective. I always wished I could at least wear my alliance fatigues during 2.

[@joshuaweston6531]

Wow! Way to treat the guy (or girl) who saved your ass from Sovereign! I swear, the council was just asking to be killed!

[@Marvolo14]

I rescue the Council in ME1 because the Council is the head of the galactic government. Imagine if the leaders of every NATO nation were on a plane and under attack during a war with Russia. Not rescuing them would not be an option. Them all dying at the same time would cause a mess and weaken every nation that relies on those leaders. After Sovereign thr galaxy needs whatever stability it can get.

[@luciaqiao]

So well said, these were my reasons too when i dislike them yet decided to save them. Recall Virgil saying the Reapers wiped out their central government and protheans fell into chaos.

[@bno6156]

They’re replaceable, that’s the point of democracy. They rely on us far more than we rely on them.

[@denisofGOW]

If every NATO leader died in that attack, it would be a great day for humanity. Fk NATO and their puppets.

[@Nameless_Night]

I only save the council because it helps in the third game

[@kirstyjerkic4362]

The better the companion the worse the council member

[@Archdornan9001]

Tbh spectre status is mostly useless as far as I can tell in ME2. Only a few niche situations does it do anything (eg Thanes loyalty quest)

[@zigzaghyena]

Counterpoint, when I threaten that cop harassing the poor Quarian I get to say "You think you're gonna run in a Spectre?" instead of "A former Spectre?". Much more impactful.

[@soultshepartcommandershepa413]

I remember when I played ME2 my Shepard restored Spectre status by the caunclers and Anderson.

[@ThespectacularSpooder457]

Shepard wearing Jacob’s outfit💀

[@thomaso.2686]

Wearing Cerberus armor probably didn’t help 😂

[@ChefNikuman]

I never saw this because I always kill the Council.

[@thenneklkt7786]

It's criminal that you don't get a similar option in 3 when you meet the council again. of all the dialogue choice cuts from 3, thats the worst offender.

[@duyplaystation]

Better than loadfield😂

[@carljohnsson7593]

I save them because Sparatus is funny.

[@holdentudiks7123]

I never save the council i mean how can I know for sure that they are under "attack" and need "assistance"? As a matter of fact the council can "blow me"

[@anthonyprasad1402]

I know it's like that to push the story, but still, forget the council!

[@inyalgaico1563]

Hopefully me4 council are more reasonable Like ME2 Cerberus only had political issues witth the Council teritory stuff in effect they were their own political body so they are afraid of losing power not losing lives And thats what you get what you deal with for selflessly saving their lives

[@RC-xu4zu]

"Like ME2 Cerberus only had political issues witth the Council teritory stuff" To be fair, the main thing Cerberus was known for during and after 1 was "horrible secret experiments and assassinations that left huge numbers of innocent people dead". The council are definitely self-motivated, but lets not pretend anyones distrust of Cerberus was misplaced lol

[@inyalgaico1563]

@@RC-xu4zu true true but its like what government alien or earthly hasnt done the same

[@mikevignola4213]

@@inyalgaico1563 but they're not government, they're rogue meaning there's not much restricting thier actions. Had the illusive man not kept such a tight lid on operations and assets the alliance miltary would have blown them out of the sky. Especially after they used thier soldiers as guinea pigs for reseach.

[@destruction9544]

​@@RC-xu4zu cerberu aren't the only ones fucking galaxy shit, remember the council's political shenanigans when it comes to krogan

[@MasterHall117]

Reasons I left them to die

[@st.paddymad7085]

Were they even reasonable in the 1st place?

[@christheexperiment4739]

I don’t need this. Click

[@glebkrat9519]

why are you wearing jacobs clothes?