Taking Tekken into the 21st Century

Complaining about my favourite game because that's what I've become. Tekken is extremely fun; easily one of the most satisfying and enjoyable games to play offline with your mates, but struggles to keep up with a lot of other games outside of the genre in other regards. Just a few ideas I thought I'd throw out there into the KZbin void.
00:00 Intro
00:12 Matchmaking
01:24 Offline Content
03:39 Network
05:59 Community
07:07 Tutorial System
08:39 Pricing System
09:33 Epilogue
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[@TheRealSadScream]

I would love for the dlc characters to be available in practice mode. that way I can actually feel out the characters first before deciding to buy them.

[@mr-century]

tackie also to be able to lab against them

[@TheMegaPingasMobile]

@@mr-century that's what they want you to pay for

[@xhelixshotx]

Would be nice if they had weekly free characters. Like Anna free for Week 1, then Lei for Week 2, etc.

[@therealbahamut]

@@Edmitsu Wait, they CHARGED? for FRAME DATA? Something that players have been uncovering themselves and documenting publicly for DECADES in fighting games? Wow.

[@M4TTYN]

@@therealbahamut some thing Tekken ain't have in game to wasn't able to be added in to only $2.99 not too bad honestly

[@Goteiii]

How do I break throws? Google How combos work? Google What do frames mean? Google Do you want to know how you can block, sidestep, duck, punish, backdash etc? Google What options do I have for getting up from the ground? Google How to do iwr moves? Google Wtf is iwr? Google It seems they think Google is their tutorial mode.

[@WoradonNarasette]

casual player don't even know they these things exist in the 1st place they can't even know what to google

[@Goteiii]

@@WoradonNarasette very true

[@siloPIRATE]

What is iwr? Never heard of it

[@Goteiii]

@@siloPIRATE Google it!!! :P (instant while running in case you're not joking)

[@NR-fx8tk]

They could at least have a wiki in-game so you don't have to Google everything

[@IamPang]

This game was a last ditch effort by Bamco to revive the series, which explains the lack of fleshed out content this game has. If it's not due to the great pvp this game has, i doubt Tekken will still be here today. It's too late to put all of these stuff into the game now, but with the success of Tekken7, i believe that Tekken8 or whatever the next installment is going to be called, will be absolutely amazing.

[@MrOzzification]

One would hope that. But I fear Bamco execs are going to look at T7 & say "wow we pushed out a bare bones game on a slashed budget & still sold millions. Proof we don't need them to be a success". Also I doubt even Bamco knows what made T7 a landmark success. Its a lighting-in-a-bottle phenomenon and no doubt a tough act to follow.

[@MrOzzification]

@GenesisGems I'm just talking about the game's objective success. It sold over 5 million copies. 3rd best selling Tekken of all time behind T5 and T3. Whatever your opinion is those numbers matter. And on top of that T7 did skyrocket in popularity. Only SFV was doing better numbers in terms of tournament entries and Twitch views. On paper T7 shouldn't have been seeing that kind of success provided it was a bare-bones product with only gameplay as its saving grace. No other fighting game from this gen could get away with that.

[@ViperDivinity]

True the gameplay was the only best thing. Offline contents or features were lacking but if they managed to hear our prayers, im sure Tekken 8 will be the best Tekken game

[@3lectronX]

I kinda hope it's tag 3. With the option of going solo.

[@phant0mdummy]

Yea, if they don't nickel and dime us. Furthermore, they need to introduce modes that allow new players to learn and grow, or else you're just selling this game to an ever shrinking subset of players who know the game but are succumbing to old age, work life, family responsibilities, etc. They are literally killing their own franchise off if they aren't doing what they can to ensure new generations of players are going to be buying it 25 years from now. The lack of any instruction on the various intricacies of the game is shameful.

[@Dewabarasunderan]

2:14 Tekken has bowling AS PAID DLC!

[@stupid_Fingerz]

I literally agree with everything you said. It's my favorite fighting game in the world but it could be so much better

[@ttacoguyy]

as a huge Mortal Kombat fan, borrowing the faction idea is a bad idea. Factions were only in MKX and not Injustice 2 or MK11 because nobody cared about them and it didn't affect anything that mattered. The offline content in MKX and onwards has also just not been as good because the much more unique towers from MK9 and the STAR Labs stuff from Injustice 1 got replaced with randomly generated vs cpu fights with modifiers that arent interesting at all. The Krypt is good, but at the end of the day, nobody playing MK is playing for the Krypt or the towers or anything like that. When I picked up MK9 as a scrub back in the day, it wasnt because of the towers, the krypt, or even really the story mode, it was because Mortal Kombat is awesome and the game looked awesome. Just watch those MK9 trailers, how could you not be hype? I continued to play and improve and the game because it was so awesome and I wanted to be able to beat the nerds online, and NRS was also great enough to actually have a tutorial and stuff on their KZbin to help a scrub such as myself out.

[@MrOzzification]

03:29 Tag2 had something like this. It was called World Tekken Federation (yes the acronym really was WTF). You could start or join a sort of guild and represent them & host guild lobbies but Bamco dropped support for this feature quite soon after Tag2's release. In fact Bamco dropped support for Tag2 altogether within a year of its release. Harada cited this was because they hadn't devised a means of monetization for the game post-launch. 04:49 also Tag2 did have an online practice mode. Its a mystery why this was left out from T7.

[@HuascarRadio]

As a new player to Tekken 7, I totally agree with your points. It does feel like a bare bones game for single player. It doesn’t encourage me to play alone so I barely play for longer than 2 hours at a time.

[@M4TTYN]

well you won't see growth Vs CPU's tho you might stumble on tech or something but we want real Opponent to test you might against right? you won't get far beating CPU's over and over and over

[@HuascarRadio]

M4TT YN that’s a good point, but I disagree. I certainly think growth is capped with Vs CPU, but when it comes to learning the basics of a fighting game and practicing the mechanics, real opponents won’t give you the chance or opportunities like a CPU would. So in terms of starting a game with 0 hours, I’d say you can grow from Vs CPU, and robust single player content is what would bring many a lot of players back and possibly convert causals to hardcore. That’s been my experience.

[@phant0mdummy]

@@HuascarRadio That is how everyone with a brain starts out. If someone tells you they just picked up a controller and went into matches, they're lying. Or they got so bodied that they ended up in the training vs CPU practicing their movelist after...

[@ezraezra666]

I think Tekkan tried making a free-to-play game called Tekken Revolution, but unfortunately it was very poorly designed and didn't sell well.

[@Scl3rot1c]

it didnt sell? yeah i understand the point tho lol...and the game is shit because of the hackers

[@MassiveZug]

I did not know that, that's very interesting! I wonder if it would turn out better if they tried it again after the rise of popularity brought on from Tekken 7.

[@tyrenace6597]

After looking that game up. I guess that game has the most similar gameplay to Tekken 7.

[@ricoanderson6626]

SHHH!! We dont say the name of the Tekken whose name shall not be spoken...

[@Jordan64852]

I’m not a fan of fortnite but the new system of free to play is SOO much better than older ones; I remember I couldn’t play an online fight with my friend because I was out of online tokens

[@allanliang2925]

Wooo! Great video! Hope this version of Tekken comes to fruition.

[@Helynox]

Really nice list of suggestions. I agree that Tekken 7 lacks a lot of offline content. If you don't have friends to play with at this game it gets so boring.

[@TselisoCampbellPK]

Sing and fixing these elements exactly as you described would be massive. We'd quad up on players online. Cross play would save q times so much

[@Mokujinko]

Loved your ideas about viewing top players in replay so we'd have access to the data in real time and could get a firmer handle on the decisions being made. As for the 'learning through doing', I really think that they were attempting to implement some of that concept through the Mishima Saga story mode. Specifically, I think that they were trying to impress upon players the importance of 3D movement and spacing. Sure, they might not have succeeded but it's what I think they were trying to do with all the fireballs and lasers. Then for example the Nina match at the start: I think the point of that was to introduce the idea of creating and punishing whiffs.

[@MassiveZug]

I think you're absolutely correct that they tried to help teach players in the story mode, I just wonder how they could go about highlighting really important aspects like punishment and stuff more so than they already have. It seems like a difficult but most likely very rewarding problem to solve.

[@andrewhawkinsiii]

They could easily teach people how to play the game through Tekken Force mode. Introduce new baddies who specifically do certain crucial techniques in the mode to teach you how to attack and decode these techs. Tekken is amazing and I've been playing it well over 20 years but it is very very anti casual or new player to the series.

[@disruptor6550]

Really awesome video. Interesting topic and well edited too. Nice job!

[@gilet102]

To be fair to Namco. They did implement a lot of these features back in Tekken Tag 2. They even had a website that would link all your stats, your rank and a bunch of other info. You were able to watch other replays plus your own. You were able to watch matches from different region. Namco really truly put the effort but unfortunately the game didn’t sell as well. If anything we’re lucky to get Tekken 7 at all. This game was basically a last ditch effort to revive the series and they played it safe and to be honest it payed off. That’s why the game was so barebone and they’re just now adding some features. I think Namco did well considering how both T6 and Tag 2 didn’t sale as much as they wanted.

[@TheNomadJack]

Dude if Namco even implemented 50% of this... We are onto a WINNER!

[@pedrojackson8416]

It sucks that when i go to rematch a friend online we need to wait for the, GET READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE, A rematch should not lead to a full loading screen, it should jump you to the figth

[@tomasbird]

I think it's due to the fact that often times its easier to clean up resources (from the programming standpoint) by just simply restarting it. Or maybe it was designed this way at the very beginning and reworking it is actually a big task so they don't prioritize it.

[@nope1959]

@@tomasbird It was a thing in T6. They can do it.

[@N13J]

Quick! someone pls tag Mr.Harada, this is for Tekken 7 Ultimate edition expansion. Mr. Harada: “Don’t ask me for shit”

[@bobbyshewan4229]

My favorite fighting game franchise of all time. Hopefully Tekken 8 or Tag 3 will fix the problems I had with 7

[@GENOSANDIEGO]

You're right. One of the reasons I don't play online matches is because it takes forever for me to match and I can't do anything interesting. I want to be able to play offline mode while on queue.

[@FrigolitBAWS]

completely agree with all of your points and honestly i feel like most of this stuff is a given and it kind of begs the question why most of the things you listed are not in the game

[@shenelljohnson74]

Cause 2D isn't the same thing like 3D there a budget here

[@XNDL44]

A faction system would capitalize on so many things from players helping one another to increasing regional pride. I have only had a small handful of players even exchange positive messages after sets. I am all for the ideas in this video especially this one

[@PinkManGuy]

I always try to send a positive message telling the other player how good they are if they totally whoop my ass, because when growing up my brother was a poor sport who would make up stupid house rules and then sulk when he lost anyway. If I can give people the opposite feeling when they wipe the floor with me, you're damned right I'm gonna do it.

[@DonMIFC]

Tekken Tag 2 had nearly everything you mentioned. Online practice, variety of offline modes, and even a clan system (which you had to do through a website but better than nothing)

[@shenelljohnson74]

No it didn't it still missing some contented

[@NR-fx8tk]

Those were some great ideas. I second all of them :)

[@duchi882]

The thing I hate about Massive Zug's channel is that I didn't discover it sooner

[@matparjoh]

just letting you know that I really enjoy your content

[@Ilinca6]

This sounds so good, it hurts

[@SeledBeats]

this is some quality content, great points

[@mind5tate]

I agree wholeheartedly with the general addition of "challenges to grind for" in Tekken, like MK. I think it would only help new players understand mechanics, and have a subliminal way of getting better

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Get 100 Wiff punishes. Side-step 100 moves. Do 10 balcony and/or floor breaks. Stuff like that would go a long way.

[@shenelljohnson74]

@@RJALEXANDER777 oh, like TTT2 training mode which they can grade you to see how can be even better but no one uses that mode

[@MrYunzai]

Good point. the mobile moba games have stream promotion(tournament and players) and character guides. Recent games can also be saved. These will help player retention.

[@MrAWALK22]

1:13 Jesus Christ that's some dirty armor king tech!

[@blackheart59_]

GREAT video. Beautiful ideas for newcomers

[@T2Designgaming]

Great video mate, I agree with everything you've said.

[@toto_feather8732]

Underrated video. Enough said.

[@StephanieHua]

I think 3D fighting games are hard to evolve at this point. Dead or Alive just gives us better visuals, Soul Calibur keeps adding new gimmicks. Virtua Fighter has wisely not tried to make a new version

[@shaungiddeon2538]

Tekken player since Tekken 2. Everything you are talking about in this video, was in Tekken 6. It had the best customization options and had a full fledged story mode like Tekken Force in Tekken 3. Tekken 6 was amazing but didn’t sell as welll I think That’s why the sequels were gutted .

[@zangana3052]

I like how you showed some decent matches as gameplay, and not some noobs mashing against each other. Beautiful ideas, problem is BNE. Since day 1 from 2017 up till now the online gaming on consoles suck, I mean I have not played 100 games in total in 3 years! And I have tried a lot. My connection is superb on any other game (literally). For solo, yes, they need a solid guide for new comers, and not make the game easy mode (like making wake ups way easier and restrict movement co.oared to the previous Tekken). Team battle was a dope offline option.

[@Vospi]

Also, Zug, I should've said. Great video as always. :)

[@MamoMark]

Even though Tag 2 is inferior to Tekken 7 in terms of core gameplay; I liked some of the modes and options that you were given. It felt like a complete package, while everything around Tekken 7 feels somewhat slapped together. Some of your suggestions are brilliant though.

[@shenelljohnson74]

Well, one's killing the franchise (TTT2) the other one isn't (TK7)

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

@@shenelljohnson74 tekken Tag team 2 was Good it didn't kill Tekken you noob

[@shenelljohnson74]

@@magnuscritikaleak5045 TMM said chief chill out

[@ElectricOstrich]

Namco really needs to see this

[@fabianshamano5953]

What happened to T6 rematch screen, where we didn't have the VS screen load up times gosh it's so annoying to have to wait lifetimes for a rematch

[@alexplayspad]

Agreed, also a true penalty for people who plug would be nice, being able to lab characters you don't own but not play them in a match, some tournament rank that happens each week that doesn't crash, an offline tournament mode, and a better organization for a character move list.

[@youcantkilltwice5596]

Not need to buy lab characters.If u realy having problem with them. You can check frame data's of them. Also punish videos you can find on youtube

[@alexplayspad]

@@youcantkilltwice5596 Not the same, sure I can watch video online to show you the frame data, but I can't go in-depth with the character drilling the punishment, and setups that they have.

[@BlueV205]

@@youcantkilltwice5596 Sometimes, it's better to just get the feel of the characters yourself. The punishment videos ain't gonna cut it if you can't put it into practice.

[@burni988]

All of ur ideas are really good and you've said so much stuff that I've never even thought of that would drastically improve the experience of fighting games. The thing is tho that companies like Bandai namco are probably already making plenty of profit especially with all the paid dlc and season passes that tekken has. So for anything to change, those companies would have to see a significant benefit to players gained and profit by adding these type of features. I think monetisation schemes in games need to become more harshly looked at cause the current fighting game model doesn't seem that fair. So many stuff you have to pay for that you'd think would just be a given like the frame data and the doa6 thing with hair colours. And I don't think the work put in to making tekken bowl justifies having to pay for it as dlc when there's already so much dlc to buy anyway and the base game still released at full price.

[@shadowdancer5330]

Here's one, a complete fucking roster "Nah son u buying these legacy characters"

[@TheMegaPingasMobile]

My wishlist for tekken 8: -team battle (online and offline) -mokujin -remove the fucking rage arts Rage drives are okay, tho I wouldn't mind them being completely gone. But rage arts are just braindead. One move that basically crushes through everything and can deal more than a third of your max hp has is outrageous.

[@DIP8ONE]

I truly think at this point in time. Tekken 8 and if not 8 and a spinoff and there could talk a little bit differently. But for the canon entry Tekken 8, has all the chances to either be the worst or the best if series. There are many reasons to my conclusion here. Most important factors for me, we could say in general, are story ( maybe conclusion of the mishima saga ), gameplay ( which would mean, better fluidly, maybe new animations for the first time since the 90's, and probably a better idea to replace rage arts ) and the third factor has to be what you mentioned, content, offline or simgle player non-paid and constantly updated content. Again I agree with everything you said. But the major fighting games on the market each have their core features whic makes you a fan. Street fighter has it's Japanese themed martial arts with godly abilities in a 2d environment. Mk is based on chinese martial arts, certain comic features, but the base theme is extreme violence. Tekken for always had the idea of having many and unique characters with many fighting styles, and learning each of them always felt rewarding when playing especially with friends, story and other content are not on second plane here, but it's just the first aspect that attracts you the most when you see it. That is why Tekken 8 should be the product that uses every other Tekken put into perspective and brought to a whole different level. I am still pissed we didn't get cgi endings for T7. There is much to discuss here and I would love to see a video from you on how could Harada mane the perfect Tekken in the near future, I really enjoyed watching this video as a long standing fan of this series!

[@fabianshamano5953]

I agree with a lot of what you said mate hope the devs see this

[@shenelljohnson74]

Your comparing a 2D budget fighting game vs 3D there's HUUUUGE different in money pal

[@fabianshamano5953]

@@shenelljohnson74 What on earth are you on about bra

[@noobdodarksouls9699]

you should own the Tekken franchise. You have great ideas!

[@justinchoi6334]

They should add turbo battle/double damage battle along with other bells and whistles during waiting for a match. It wont hurt the old players and will only draw in new ones

[@chinesemassproduction]

I would argue much of the stuff is maybe a little too much, like the tournament commentary and all the social media junk. Besides that, I wholeheartedly agree, especially for proven concepts like SFV's training mode matchmaking.

[@Legacy-of-K]

Underated content

[@coker-jg6xn]

10/10 thumbs up

[@OmerDaniel-aka-SeloTapeTM]

Harada needs to see this

[@shenelljohnson74]

Budget, 2D vs 3D is a very bad comparison so no he doesn't

[@OddSauce]

Good call showing that LOL fighting game, I have a feeling that if that game does well it could Kickstart the next evolution of fighting games, just like when back in 2008 Street fighter 4 brought back the genre as a whole

[@ZenkieTV]

All the things you mentioned here is asking too much of Bamco. Harada can't even get the development team to fix Fahkumram's hitbox.

[@Overdoseplus]

I haven't played Tekken since 5 due to switching to PC gaming. I really want to try out 7 after watching a lot of videos from TMMSwe but there's too much DLC. Maybe after the seasons are done they will release an ultimate edition with everything included.

[@apizprojek]

So no one is going to mention the faction chat at 3:36? Anyways, great video ~

[@rohitz1992]

totally agree with you man.. i am low rank player but wish to play with other people and learn.. But tekken interface and features doesn't allow that. I cannot simply play multiple match without loading the same map again. Online rank match experience is worst ..why cant i see the people searching for rank match and then select one from pool..there are players who just disconnects when they like.

[@ReapingRose115]

A few personal gripes from me regarding Tekken 7 in particular: Netcode. Even on Steam and good internet, the netcode feels inferior to a variety of other online games I have in my arsenal, of course not all fighting games but still, it can be frustrating to go down to a 3 bar despite the connection stating 4-5 bars. I would prefer a Ping System when matchmaking rather than finding out last second. A game that does this well is SKullgirls, which takes into account ping over giving you random 'bars' Extending from that is the permanent input delay which it isn't too bad but there are other games that offer adjustable input delay like Skullgirls based on connection, making even the worst connections acceptable. Sure, it's a 2D fighter, but it was an indie funded game that didn't have a huge company to fully back it. Those are my main gripes and I can go on and on, but you nailed the many highlights that I believe Tekken needs changing.

[@jasonsmith530]

ReapingRose115 and the netcode is going be exposed now that evo 2020 will be online only

[@Fidolorous]

Well said

[@WillYazdani]

Its kinda like they want to preserve the old school mentality that everything should be learned through trial and error and that the community should figure it out like they did back in the arcade days. But arcades are few and far between and the majority of people who play the game are playing at home, on the internet. They need to adapt their philosophy as a whole, which they may be doing already. Harada said he'd never put frame data in the game and here we are with an in depth frame data display.

[@taylorbee4010]

Vf4 Evo had content blowing things out of the water in like 2002. Same with Soul Calibur 2.I think they just expect people to spend most of their time playing versus training or online. Whereas in a different era not so long ago we spent a lot more time frame single player because there was no online.

[@RanmaruRei]

Meanwhile I spent my time in MK11 in Towers and never touched online. And it was great for me.

[@personaphantom5543]

Soulcalibur always had amazing single player content yeah the content in SCVI the most recent instalment isn't good but it's still there.

[@aaronburnett2261]

Sense the Pvp is incredibly polished (not perfect but 20 years of refinement and it shows) let's get casual love (and money!) Tekken Force mode! Greatest mode ever! Even better with coop mode! Like Final fight or streets of Rage with Tekken depth of 100+ moves!! Each DLC stage could be designed to be a background story for a Tekken character. Teaching you about them and where they came from. Casuals will like it because they can practice Tekken game mechanics without being juggled for 15 seconds because they whiffed 1 move. And hardcore players will love the difficulty when the baddies stack up or a boss battle happens! They could dlc some legendary costumes. These could be earnable thu lots of play and gaining high Ranked titles or purchased(casual option) . Survival mode! Absolutely no reason for this to not be here already. NONE! Team battle. Why not? Cosmetics. Why does TTT2 have better cosmetics!? It was on older hardware and had 4 characters on screen! 4 characters could have long hair, yet T7 can't have 2 characters with long hair! Challenge stages like smash bros or SF2 Daily challenges. This could be anything. 3 matches using character X. Win using X move(throw, Rage drive etc)It's like a dare. Could be some temporary prize if you win! Like early access to a skin etc. Tekken is incredible game but so far has refused to simple steps toward perfection (survival mode missing is the biggest sign. That mode has been in almost every Tekken and is simple to add) Tekken Force mode would require the most work but it would gain a massive amount of players! There are tons ppl who love Tekken, its characters, and its mechanics, but they are just not good vs ppl. Take their money and give them an AMAZING experience to. As I veteran player I'd love to the challenge to help a newer player on hard and try to carry him. Talk and teach at the same time. Fun opportunities just waiting for them to add (back)

[@ev5837]

I'd kill to get tekken force in season 4

[@aaronburnett2261]

@@ev5837 I'll help you hide the bodies...

[@ev5837]

@@aaronburnett2261 I downloaded streets of rage 4 and now i want tekken force a thousand times more.

[@aaronburnett2261]

@@ev5837 Tekken Force mode adds years of replayability to the game. Every game with TFM has had my attention years longer AND it's a fun way to teach my kids tekken!

[@quintenturner4807]

Jesus I love your videos,

[@lucastonoli3256]

I wouldn't bother one second of development into tutorial. I do agree a good campaign with focus on adding up skills or knowledge (ie: Enemy only takes damage from juggle, explain basic launcher+combo, let the player play).

[@shenelljohnson74]

TTT2 did that no play that crap stop pls

[@kukurukuku9270]

wow well thought stuff and i agree cosmetics could bring money in this game just look at the mods there are lots of good stuff but first they must fix rank system where you can just load your rank after you got demoted

[@taylorbee4010]

You could actually keep matches searching in Tekken tag 2

[@siloPIRATE]

You could? How?

[@kingrozay5391]

i miss team battles

[@ozimantv]

This guy should be hired by bandai namco

[@shenelljohnson74]

Then he would realise that oh, this is a 3D game sitting on high budget NOT some 2D game.. duh.

[@tysondance7476]

They should do that side scroll beat em up like in Tekken 3. The story in Tekken 6 wasn't bad either. They just need to put full effort like the arcade gameplay

[@shenelljohnson74]

They did, added everyone to interactive which eachother in campaign. Added cutscenes Secret boss fights in campaign Added weapons Added a challenge call hard which i enjoy to beat the boss in there full strength It's just that offline warriors couldn't save this game

[@FGirao]

This channel is already in 21st century

[@phant0mdummy]

It isn't hard at all, but so few fighting games can even come close to doing it right. The "Story" mode should be the entire tutorial. You should be able to choose whichever character you want and begin the story. Each encounter between cutscenes would build on the last, having you learn basic movement, then adding single jabs, some strings, etc. But each step only involves what you have seen to that point. So if you start the Story as Yoshimitsu, your fist encounter is going to be only movement based. Avoiding X amount of attacks by dashing back, sidestepping, etc. Once you pass that, they will introduce some of your jabs. Then you are required to utilize movement to land jabs, maybe interrupt or counter enemies. I don't get what's so hard about it. You could even package the game with "Beginners Story Mode" and "Story Mode". Where beginners is for players who know they need to learn, and will not mind the handholding to understand punishes, whiff baiting, juggle combos, wall carry, etc... and people who know what they're doing can just plow through the story with their main and be on their way.

[@antoniogabrielpassossantan5718]

It would fit perfectly to call Tekken's online groups "Zaibatsus"

[@samuelalphabet5360]

hewwo Zug hope u r well

[@PlumpPotatoRump]

1:10 I'm a chloe main... what that king did was equally parts horrifying and FUCKING RAD. [Edit] P.S Shout outs to the Super Monkey Ball OST.

[@descharted]

This is what i had in my mind thank you for making this vid man i hate that there is no crossplay i am in a shitty region cant play shit and they should making it a ftp like lol or csgo while making a buck with cosmetic stuffs

[@beaushorkey9313]

OHY! DUKE IS THE BEST! lol good ideas though.

[@kevincruz7958]

I would expect that on tekken 8. 7 is done with.

[@CGoody564]

Not true. Between new dlc files being found on PC and bandai namco teasing another character, I don't see how you've come to such a conclusion. Season 4 is very possible

[@evocatimedia]

Crapsuhiro Harada: Don’t ask me for 💩.

[@gtilted3634]

Touchè

[@ricebeans9779]

the people who disliked this video don't love or care for tekken.

[@magnus00125]

offline endless arcade battle while in queue?

[@bigmacmm5]

A majas and aris nod? 👍🏻

[@Darrihen]

I really love tekken! But everything is wrong with this game, the only thing that save, is the pvp match experience (when netcode works fine)

[@Alexman208GR]

That idea of spectators joining lobbies and watching pros play on their screen is unlikely to happen as it requires a robust server to manage and distribute the data. But the tekken team in T7 have strongly implied through their design they want very minimal server costs. :/ Maybe if T8 gets a huge budget. Fingers crossed.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Just over 10 mins is pretty suspicious. Yeah, online practice should be a must. And take notes from TFH's tutorials, Bamco. Cute notebook graphics. lul

[@simurghthepersian7220]

Here your problem BUDGET!

[@chaldeang7687]

Haven't they sold over 5 million copies of the game, and then you include the dlc and merchandise money.

[@simurghthepersian7220]

@@chaldeang7687 my dude on release tekken 7 was poor as fuck now they can use this money to make a better tekken 8 game. I mean compare fakumram to kazuyas animation clearly their money has been well spent after tekken 7 release come on man tekken isnt a triple AAA game give them a break

[@shenelljohnson74]

Finally, someone has it together facts

[@janematthews9087]

These are all very goods that's been kicking around the fgc for decades(since Usenet days,even) but here's the thing. The examples you've shown who do these things(the single player content,the online practice mode,etc) are mainly western companies(sfv being an exception what with the multiplayer being done by Capcom vancouver) and not by Japanese people. It's only been recently that they took a look at freaking roll back netcodr!something that has existed since 2010!! And only because they hired a western guy into the dev team!(zinac) So yeah,unless they hire a foreigner(murry doesn't count,that baby) you gonna hafta wait a hot minute for those things...

[@yurexpi]

ROLLBACK NETCODE!

[@yurexpi]

@BLACK ICEYOU I can't really explain it but he mentions it in the video as well, check the description

[@amazinglarry9920]

Tekken is so unwelcoming to new players. It needs to be more upfront with its combo system like teach people how to really make their own combos. The violet system works or whatever it was called was a step in the right direction but still too messy to really teach people. It needs a massive overhaul. It needs to be beginner friendly like the old tekken and have some kinda social feature that really focuses on the community. Smash has better community features and that’s SMASH like NINTENDO, KNOWN FOR BEING AWFUL WITH ONLINE

[@ev5837]

9:20 somebody can't break tackle

[@taylorbee4010]

Soul Calibur or Virtua Fighter or dead or alive really need to make a better come back than what they're doing because they can implement all of these features. As an added bonus moving them 7s hella easier than Tekken.I think one of the main things boring people from taking is they don't understand what a safe what is unsafe and how to move. And it's not really made obvious by the game.

[@serezha3442]

How about a new video btw?

[@Zetsukun12]

It's sad to think that a lot of these points seem to be universal in fighting games... Hopefully some 3xA fighting game that doesn't have all these issues shows up to push this genre forward!

[@djmj1000]

Great video and a lot of good points. The lack of community features increases the salt and hate for tekken. Everyone knows its a great game but the salt and negativity can be too much for many players. If bandai namco does not improves the community the next tekken will not be a success. Right now they are surfing on the tournament and more content wave but this will stop one day. Tekken is like a sport you are doing and investing a lot of time and all sports have a community but tekken is still in the "arcade" idea trapped. In arcades you have a community to ask. But online a lot of players are alone fighting and rely to steam or forums. They must remove the anonymous mechanics. I almost never play lobby since i want to play and not watch 3 matches to fight again. I am already cold and out of focus after this. Like you said parallel fights should take place and the community must be involved much more. Show streams and highlights inside tekken and allow players to watch other open games. Basically watch any game from everyone since a player is always happy if someone watches him. Social profiles like twich/twitter/youtube should be visible ingame when watching games or playing an opponent. Punishment guide is a new great start to tekken and i hope they continue working on it. It has so much potential but should never reveal all options since this is the magic of tekken. Like when you block jack's throw with a perfect frame block everyone is surprised and tekken lives from surprises. A demo where 2 characters are available for versus play and also online play (maybe limited matches) and 1-2 story chapters will not hurt bandai namco at all but it can reach a bigger audience. My ideas: - tekken ball is a nice way to have casual fun and reduce salt / hate and bring funny moments to players - arenas - remove duplicates and 1-2 endless level - add brighter arenas - sometimes it is so dark you cannot even see the limb of dark character outfits - improve punishment guide by adding throw / tackle escapes - add p2p mode with port forwarding - this is like offline! (if a ps1 emulator epsx for tk3 can do it, bandai namco can also do it) - remove some bugs for high level gaming like floor break after KND trade. Game bugs are the biggest salt for me.

[@shenelljohnson74]

If it's offline content only... online warrior or esports fans or hardcore which is 5 million of them aren't buying so of course harada going with the big numbers

[@aldofer8832]

zug zug

[@kenite7980]

wish tekken has team ranked battle or some shit

[@bigmangabe]

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