Taking the Ruger SFAR to the Limit

[@Karza_357]

The SFAR is an amazing product. You get the Vietnam war experience with stuck cases right out of the box.

[@aregularperson7573]

This made me chuckle

[@HWG-wm8ld]

It had a malfunction for that mass shooter.

[@anthonygerber8261]

It's a bummer. I really wanted it to be reliable!!! Ruger is a good company. Hopefully they stop using the public for QC like Sig has been doing lately.

[@vincentdelaossa9740]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelkvilvang7348]

I got an SFAR this summer 16” & have had zero issues. M80 ball about 1800 funds through it. Haven’t even got the new gas key cause the damn thing runs. Keep your guns lubed.

[@1111Tactical]

Glad to see Hop is taking this rifle...SFAR as it can go

[@ssspencerjr]

Underrated comment.

[@johnkrstyen7351]

Laughed way harder than I should have at this comment

[@jhutch1470]

@@johnkrstyen7351 Yes you did. Just kidding I laughed too.

[@MoY206]

I saw it a mile away 🎉

[@f308gtb1977]

Oh, that was good.👏

[@MandoWookie]

I think the SFAR is a good sign that the market for a small frame 308 is going to expand. Probably because of, not in spite of, its problems. Its cost is so tempting, its compatibility with common AR components means its easy to tinker with, and since most AR owners treat guns like LEGO sets, changing a bunch of parts out is a feature, not a bug. So, I wouldnt be surprised if this sparks a minor aftermarket in fixes for common problems, and maybe down the line an ecosystem for small frame 308s that center on the SFAR, since the DPMS GII fell to Cerberus and the Rogue is priced out of the casual buyer range.

[@JW-wi1nf]

Everyone wants a low cost product that is also a quality build and functions. For example, look at Arken scopes and the huge following they have. SFAR gets the job done at close range because MOA is not a factor. MOA becomes a factor at distance and the complaints go up considerably. Much like the Arken where the build and turrets has high praise but at distance the glass quality comes in to play and the complaints increase. The POF Revolution or DD5 V5 cost more than the SFAR but they perform out of the box and at distance with better components and tighter tolerances. So the debate continues "At what price, are you willing to spend and be happy with the decision?".

[@teenlaqueepha]

My SFAR has ran great (thankfully). I’ve been running it like a fool and she’s been a champ.

[@sdrawls]

Mine also after 1 year no malfunctions after5-600 rounds

[@salonofre7857]

Just purchased one two weeks ago hopefully it runs good. Maybe Ruger has made some changes since they've received so many complaints on the gas issue?

[@thesaint1517]

The reason why I bought the SFAR was because of price and weight. I had to send mine because of shaving the brass and double feeding on setting 2. Just came back after a fast turn around and tried it a couple of days on setting 3 and while still shaving some of the brass, I saw great improvement after 50 rounds. On setting 2 worked flawless with my handloads. If I start spending money changing all the parts that mentioned, I'll be defeating the purpose of acquiring the SFAR. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@LRRPFco52]

I think the Savage MSR-10 is the more optimal size for lighter .308s. Still has a bit more carrier weight, without being a beast like an LR-308/AR-10 BCG. Also has adjustable gas with mechanical advantage.

[@mrgrump2534]

This hobby is not for the poors 😂

[@mrgrump2534]

Also, what do you mean shaving the brass?

[@redrighthandllc]

Riflespeed is an amazing product and we love them. 40k of full auto among the collection of our samples and they run like the day they where installed. Glad to see it fix your issues with the SFAR.

[@erick1076]

Have had mine since November and so far zero issues

[@teenlaqueepha]

Same here. Got mine in December.. runs great.

[@fuelguy2020]

I just got mine. Maybe it's from a newer batch? We shall see.

[@very7962]

Sample size of 1

[@sirlost94]

Dyall use it suppressed or not?

[@wc7102]

Hopefully Ruger takes note and comes out with a gen 2. I’ve wanted the SFAR for a while now, but have been patient, strictly due to Hop. Appreciate it, great series

[@jeremywatson9129]

It would be nice if they made the rifle speed blocks a factory option.

[@Teak0531]

The SFAR is a good idea and has appeal...but it's Gen 1 and new systems in Gen 1 almost always have bugs. Appreciate the effort, reviews, and updates Hop, it takes things like this to result in Gen2/Gen3 systems that are BNIB reliable.

[@sambarnes9520]

They problem with Ruger is that they consider gen 1 a finished product.

[@Teak0531]

I hate to say it but you're not wrong, they let some things linger now and then. Hopefully they will see the potential getting this right has. Produce the reliable version Hop has figured out and this becomes a serious player in the market.

[@nickdial8528]

Typically Ruger rules stand behind the product and make sure the gun is right and runs like it should.. if you send it to tgwmm, they're not going to send back an unworking gun as far as I've experienced.

[@nickdial8528]

@@user-jl6hr5ys2j Yes but you get that with any manufacturing company, it's not like that's unique to Ruger. I bought a sig 516 rifle, and I had to send that in for work to get done when it was having an issue. My Smith In Wesson AR22, had safety issues that needed to be recalled. Ruger has had problems, there's not a single gun manufacturer that hasn't had these issues. The real concern, is does the company do what they should to stand behind the product and correct it when needed? in my experience, Smith and Wesson has, Ruger has, and so has sig in my experience, when I've had to have issues fixed. there's not a single manufacturer or company that doesn't have issues like this, whether it's your car manufacturer, or anything else, this happens. They're machines, and sometimes things need to be corrected. there's no such thing as a company that puts out a perfect product, hell, my chevy pickup truck has been more reliable than my Toyota, and yet you hear people always parrot how great toyota's are and they never break down, and I can tell you that's absolutely not true.... my Toyota has had plenty of issues.

[@Teak0531]

Is Ruger willing to handle a warranty issue, sure they are. As a customer though, having to go through the warranty process has additional costs, takes additional time and effort, and puts a stink on the purchase. Ruger isn't the only manufacturer though that's guilty of beta testing it's products on the public by rushing to market with "sort of" works products. In hindsight, I bet a lot of Gen 1 P365 buyers would have much rather waited for Gen 3 model.

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

I'm so glad you didn't abandon this project. It's SUCH a compelling gun considering how overpriced SCARs are and how much excess weight there is in shortstroke piston AR-10s. I'd love to see you try out a Faxon MLOK carbon fiber handguard (which would give more clearance for the gas block) or a BLK LBL integrated bipod handguard

[@HWG-wm8ld]

You complain about overpriced then want to see a carbon hand guard

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

@@HWG-wm8ldexactly - want guns that are as cheap as possible so that I have the budget for the best possible aftermarket parts. THIS is why I can't afford a SCAR - I would need a replacement lower to use 25 round Magpul PMAGs, I would need a CF handguard extension, I would need a nonreciprocating charging handle, I would need an ACR stock, and then I would still need to buy optics

[@mrgrump2534]

@@HWG-wm8ld not all of us are poor, like you, some of us like to buy guns, and then custom them out

[@NTBD03]

I’m running mine at the gas setting 2 with a flow through suppressor. I’ve been using a variety of loads ranging from M80 ball to 168gr HPBT Match. Never had a single failure.

[@speedyolvera4748]

The real test is without the suppressor.

[@justbuffering3299]

The unicorn! Mines been pure hell. Just upgraded the gas block with an aero precision adjustable… heading to the frustration range tomorrow. Wish me luck 🙏

[@teenlaqueepha]

Yeah, mine has been solid asf (luckily).. I fkn love it, but no can yet. Might snag a hux

[@mrgrump2534]

@@speedyolvera4748 we’re not poor, we don’t shoot without suppressors

[@speedyolvera4748]

@@mrgrump2534 neither am I bud. I like reliability and versatility… stay humble my friend.

[@diegorojas2728]

I also had stuck casing issues. Contacted Ruger and they sent me their upgraded gas regulator. I've shot almost 100 rds without issues.

[@cltnc571]

I'm so glad you got a new jacket. If you were still wearing that rag you had last year I was going to write a nasty letter to James for not keeping up with his child support payments.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I still have that jacket but I ordered a replacement so I can be presentable at SHOT show and not get fired.

[@fuelguy2020]

​@@Hoplopfheil😂😂

[@MadOgre]

I'm probably lucky in that my SFAR has had no problems. I've only put about 500 rounds through it, but they have been problem free. My build is maximizing the SFAR's strength, in that it is light, so I've kept it as light as possible. 3x Prismatic optic, Back up Irons, sling... That's all this rifle needed.

[@OmnisEtNihil]

My wallet wants me to buy the SFAR, but my heart knows I'll buy the DD5 V3.

[@breckfreeride]

Identical build here!

[@Big_Floyd]

Don't plan on using it at night I see

[@SkippyTarbuckle]

Same. Mine's been good. Changed the rail, and some controls, but that's it.

[@ArduousPun]

Mine has been solid after the break-in period! I haven't admittedly ran it suppressed too much, but that will change this next weekend.

[@davewebster5120]

I use superlative arms gas blocks in all of my ars. perfect reliability with any bullet despite spring weight/buffer weight/bullet types. Runs waaaay cleaner suppressed and no gas in the face as long as your settings are good.

[@Two_Names]

Glad to see this rifle back on the channel. Based on your experiences and those of others I know who shoot their sfar's, they really do need a whole new front-end. New barrel w/ smarter gas port, new gas regulation, new handguard. All things that could literally be fixed inexpensively from the factory if Ruger could get its head out of its own butt.

[@JackTagar]

What I would give for a furniture-less, barrel-less receiver set offered as a builder's kit.

[@SH-zv2wy]

‘T&Fd outside an REI’ That’s top shelf comedy 😄

[@acrienteangelic1862]

I've already drilled out 3 SFAR regulators, thankfully it seems to be a happy middle-ground for sizing, stock port size for #2 is 0.093" and we opened it to 0.098" and that was enough to have it cycling everything. We did find the #1 really only works well with higher back-pressure cans so we also opened it from 0.063" to 0.072". The #3 is 0.112", which is outrageously huge even as an adverse setting for any .308 gas gun.

[@Enjoyer.762]

Why bother? Throw it away. Buy a better design like DD or LMT.

[@acrienteangelic1862]

@@Enjoyer.762 I think it would have been apparent that I'm not doing this work to MY rifles

[@carbonking53]

@@Enjoyer.762 Some folks don't have poser money.

[@americaalways1442]

Thanks for your info on modifications.

[@erroneous6947]

@@acrienteangelic1862 what do you recommend for an AR-10?

[@jakethemistake19]

SFAR is a winner for a gun to be modded. It'll get the job done with the right upgrades. Would love to see custom barrels that match the SFAR spec.

[@calholli]

For the old dust cover.. You can just take a triangle file and cut another groove around the little rod and order another tiny C-clip and snap it on there.. works just fine for a budget hack; or if you just happen to have a c-clip already and don't want to wait on parts.

[@tedundercarriage8183]

chucking it in a drill and using a washer to brace the file against the drill chuck is my trick. I don't know why 2 clips isn't the standard

[@calholli]

@@tedundercarriage8183 Nice.. I'll try that next time. I'm sure there are aftermarket options that have a dual clip as standard; to be fair, when this was first designed, they didn't plan on it being so modular like it is today. Innovation is awesome.

[@DallinHarris]

I have an SFAR with a Midwest handguard and radian raptor. Run suppressed on setting 2. I have had zero issues after the first 100 or so rounds. I like the rifle a lot. Shoots under 1 moa with sig 150 fmj

[@aeis3007]

Is yours the longer barrel though? From what I've seen review wise their are more problems with the shorter barrel ones.

[@basemandog]

@@aeis3007mine is a 16 in barrel and have had zero issues with it

[@aeis3007]

@@basemandog glad to hear.

[@scottcampbell2585]

Had something similar with the AASF .308 by Adam’s arms over gas. Solution 5.8 ounce buffer weight and a rifle length spring. Cycles 147-175 ejection pattern is 1 o’clock 147 to 3:30 4 with the 175. The rifle has 5 settings on the gas block. Surefire war comp and warden device.

[@DayzedTransceiver]

I swear I only ever saw good reviews of this product until I saw your video. Thanks for the facts!

[@docternoblex]

I think that the potential is there, with the work like you have done, it seems like a great rifle. Imagine if munitionworks got their hands on the specs and means to produce it

[@HWG-wm8ld]

Why would you buy something that doesn’t work. Same with the prodigy, yes it works after $500 plus labor, just buy high quality.

[@anthonyarcher7268]

@@HWG-wm8ld Why would anyone treat these guntubers as anything but entertainment?

[@HWG-wm8ld]

I see most as just narcissistic rubes. This guy is definitely in the top 10.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

​@@anthonyarcher7268what?

[@HotboiEngineering]

Have one of those gas blocks coming for my USPSA rifle, makes me feel better knowing my purchase is validated by my favorite guntubers.

[@e7tegt503]

Almost bought one of these when they first released them. Glad I didn’t. Typical ruger that doesn’t work out of the box or after a couple trips to customer service. Ruger - gunsmithing required. Thanks for updating us on this this project.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

Im kind of out on Ruger over the last few years. Their QC has been rough at best. I have a first gen PC9 thats been through a boltface, boltface pins, two extractors and still has extraction/feed issues. Its been back to Ruger and it was worse afterwards. I picked up the SFAR six months ago and I think the nicest thing I can say about it is that its light for a .308 platform. Its been a picky eater and as you mentioned, is over gassed or under. No sweet spot or pet ammo Ive found to get it cycling reliably out of the box. Both are just taking up space in the safe now. If I get a wild hair Ill check out that gas block.

[@erroneous6947]

I agree completely. Smith and Wesson has gone downhill too. Imo.

[@or6060]

i swear the rogue used to have an adjustable gas block. it also used to be $1700.

[@breckfreeride]

Maybe early on... I didn't like the barrel twist rate of 1 in 8 though.

[@LosDoyerss]

"use to"

[@Jester62D]

Try keeping an old style paint can / soda bottle opener in your kit. The hook end (paint can) fits in the same location as the extractor. The length let's you pry out the casing w/o sending a ram-rod down the barrel.

[@MMOchAForPrez]

The Riflespeed adjustable gas system feels very underrated. I have one on my rifle and I'll never build another one without adjustable gas. The only thing I dislike about it is the longer versions tend to ring like a tuning fork when firing. Just put some sort of band on it if it annoys you.

[@erickaracsonyi4415]

As someone with another brand AR10 who has also dealt with these struggles, I think the issue with these platforms (larger frame AR's) is the 6mm ARC exists, and ammo prices between good match 308 and 6 ARC is getting very close.

[@andycraig6905]

I think we're just short a mainstream enhanced intermediate cartridge like 6mm arc

[@andycraig6905]

@@user-jl6hr5ys2j the whole point I'm making is that's the only thing holding it back. It's over a dollar a round for the cheap stuff and it's not available at the store usually. Other than that it's better than 5.56.

[@mabs9503]

I like to listen to Hop's videos while I go for my walks so I can pretend we're walking together and he's autistically and ceaselessly ranting about weird and obscure gun opinions the whole time. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@nickdougherty3528]

Bro, totally the best on the tuning of the Ruger sfar. Ive been binging KZbin spar videos all morning while doing my paperwork if I could have just saw yours first I would have moved on to my TE150 Husqvarna top-end rebuild video and then on to my air Venturi moisture removal video and then on to my electric water heater probe insert for my RV. crap sounds like I got a lot of work to do. Why do I buy things that need work? when I don't want to work this much. If I buy less I can work less. Fish hunt more

[@juncho1977]

I would say that a Huxwrx suppressor should work pretty well with the SFAR.

[@kxkxkxkx]

It must generate tremendous back pressure the way he has a small no-flo can on a .308😮

[@pztgst]

I've got a POF rogue and used a riflespeed to tame the gas on that as well. The biggest problem after tuning everything is that the gas system is just too short causing the bolt to start to unlock too early. I get that they designed it to work with cheap steel ammo, but I wish they opted for a longer gas system so it stops eating brass.

[@cristiancruz1972]

What is the length of the gas system it ships with? Would you be able to swap barrel with a longer port to help with the issue?

[@danielllewellyn5720]

That's the same problem with the 16" SFAR.

[@justbuffering3299]

@@cristiancruz1972no barrel swap possible.. proprietary lower won’t take anything else

[@hotrodglock]

Really like what you did here. I want another 308 auto, but most of them are just to heavy out the gate. This looks like a viable alternative, as long as you expect to need to tweak it

[@natsuccubus]

no greater ad campaign than ruger being sure a “certain someone” got a functioning SFAR in stock configuration

[@theandwerd]

Thanks hop, at least you didn’t abandon us like Chrisky, and are still doing gun interviews as opposed to brass facts

[@highdragguns]

Definitely not on my to-buy list, but really enjoyed the SFAR video series - great content as always!

[@JesusFreak8824]

"It's like poetry. It rhymes." Thanks George.

[@Sig_P229]

Didn’t you get a lemon originally? Did you get double lemonade? Which actually surprises me from Ruger to be honest.

[@lt_dagg]

My buddy's ruger ar had misaligned feed ramps. the feed ramps in the barrel extention were clocked counter clockwise

[@ToastbackWhale]

I mean, it’s Ruger. Not Knight’s.

[@jacobroy586]

Ruger is the bottom line in most people’s eyes, and I hold them slightly below PSA. Ruger and pretty much any other legacy company really aren’t as great as some make them out to be.

[@METALLIFY16]

Why are you surprised? Its a ruger.

[@mlgtactics9911]

​@@jacobroy586Was skeptical Ruger could do what no other company was doing with ar10 weight.

[@bvhnightmare]

I have 2 ar10 style rifles and the RifleSpeed system is on both. Will never use another adjustable gas block. One gun is a 6.5 creed PRS rifle with several PRS seasons on it. Zero issues. The other is a 308 dmr, battle rifle. Again, zero issues

[@D.M.Luiz.]

Story of hops life is him continuously getting disappointed by rugers products.

[@RoundTableOfTruth]

Out of some of the other “AR10” platforms I’ve ran, I’ve had good experiences with SFAR. Little ammo specific when it comes to cheap ammo, but all defensive and match ammo I’ve had nothing but great experiences, unsuppressed and suppressed

[@TheHide]

Gosh I want to get one of these bad to try out for my channel. With all the work Hop had to do inorder to make it "reliable" sure makes me wonder... But its a super intriguing concept.. Appreciate all the leg work with this one Hop!

[@Leodigarius]

Riflespeed is a good option. I've also had great luck with the Noveske Switchblock as well, but you need a cutout to use it properly. Tried it on a N6 and I went from hardcore skeptic to a believer pretty quick. It's no wonder why NSW dudes like the N6 with a switchblock, it just makes sense. Would that have a place on the SFAR? Doubt it, but it's still another solid option. I was literally about to buy one of these when I got a screaming deal on a N6. Glad to see it's not total dogshit ass garbage.

[@Cob2001]

What's an N6?

[@basedWisco715]

@@Cob2001noveske AR-10

[@MarksmanMike]

Thank you for all the awesome content ✌🏽

[@01001010k01001101]

I think Hop does an excellent job on this page and puts these rifles through a proper performance review. I trust his advice and rely on videos he puts out to make decisions. That being said, I have the 20” barrel of the SFAR and have had none of the same issues with reliability that he’s experiencing. I’ve now put 750+ 7.62x51 M80 Ball down range (don’t price that out please 😂) and can’t remember experiencing a single misfire or chambering issue. I have not even cleaned the rifle yet and performance has been exceptional for me. I’m actually frustrated that poor Hop has had to deal with these issues because I know how smoothly the gun has run for me. I’ve even considered purchasing the 16.1” version of this bc I would configure it much differently than the 20”. The 20” rifle is still completely stock config from Ruger, I’ve added scopes / fore grip / bipod accessories but have not altered any of the mechanical aspects of the rifle. It seems that the use of a suppressor on this rifle may interfere with proper gas release. I feel for you Hop, keep up the good work.

[@Jack-M1113]

Push it to the limit man. Pass along the razors edge…hold on…stopped myself

[@rbarbetta1978]

Shopping for a new 7.62 AR platorm rifle right now. Thanks for this video. Moving on....

[@GeneralSirDoctorJFK]

Super easy, barely an inconvenience ❤

[@brianosborne1096]

Don’t have a can on mine but I haven’t had any problems so far shoots great and likes 175 and 180 grain bullets .

[@SHOTRED555]

I was dealing with the same issue like Hop at the beginning of the video with my aero precision AR10. It was undergas until my gunsmith made a bigger hole for the gas to travel more. Which now my AR10 run perfect, despite it being a heavy girl lol

[@jpap967]

Damn that sucks man....my SFAR has been reliable and deadly accurate through 300 rounds so far

[@DerekJones]

I guess I've been lucky. I took mine through the break in period with 200 rds of LC ball ammo, and then some extra ammo a friend gave me:). Zero failures on setting 3. It just worked perfectly. I ran into some lock back issues when I made some ammo for it that was a little to spicy. I dialed the powder back, and got exactly what I want for a Vmax 110gr bullet with exterminator. No failures yet.... If I have any issues I guess I could just change the gas block since Ruger is giving new revised ones away.

[@sjoracer2934]

That riflespeed gas block seems really neat. For anyone that has one, how difficult is it to adjust? In the video it looks like something that could get adjusted by bumping into rubble/barricades etc.

[@pa3gungal]

They’re easy to adjust and work really well. Downsides are handguard compatibility (they are not low profile), weight (it’s heavy and pretty far out on the barrel) and price.

[@sjoracer2934]

@@pa3gungal thanks for the reply, when I get into the suppressor game I’ll have to pick one up!

[@DKsupreme69420]

Very unlikely you’ll bump it unintentionally there’s a detent between each setting. Also being that it’s on the barrel itself you’re way likely to Wack something else before you hit it and the settings are visible.

[@gregmacklem]

I have the 20” version and have put an ambi charging handle, Magpul angled foregrip, padded sling, Leupold VX3HD scope and a PSA single stage match trigger. I set it up for deer hunting. Had some issues early on but now is working flawlessly. It will group 3/4” at 100 yards with Federal Fusion 166 gr bullets. It will do 1” with Federal Premium 150 gr Nosler Partitions. Other hunting ammos I tried opened up beyond that. Absolutely love the rifle but did not get a chance at a deer this season so will have to wait another year.

[@turdferguson2863]

Cleaning rod for the win! Try a paint can opener, doesn't take up space on your kit of you jam it in some molle. The angle of the paint opener is perfect for the ejection port trust

[@Hoplopfheil]

I keep one of those in my range bag but if a case gets left behind in the chamber it usually means the rim is shredded up, so the paint key doesn't have anything to grab on to.

[@NamedMyTaco]

😂😂😂 Hop's comments always crack me up! Great video!

[@dravidiantommylinson3880]

Love the constant content from you and 🅱️rass 🅱️acts lately

[@garyswift9347]

Just got a Gen 2 version of this rifle, and it cycles perfectly out of the box. It appears that they fixed the gas system issues you were having.

[@randommastermind]

How do you know it's a Gen 2 instead of 1?

[@bghiggy]

Hop, you're my favorite lesbian aunt guntuber

[@CiviTac]

Sounds like a handguard and adjustable gas make it pretty reliable. That should still keep it under the price of the larger competitors and you get the light weight benefits

[@DKsupreme69420]

The lesson people should be taking away from these videos and others is the juice to squeeze ratio on .308/6.5cm platforms is abysmal. These things quickly turn into money pits. Assuming you think these might have merit as a DMR of sorts you have to ask yourself “what is this platform affording me over a dedicated 6arc rifle or upper?” The answer is very little IMO.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I'm starting to learn why bolt action rifles are still a thing.

[@leewilkinson6372]

Oddly, I snapped together a PSA ar 10 not long ago for around the same price. 20" barrel, and a heavy pig, but no failures to feed or eject at all in over 500 rounds. Likes 180 grain bullets for accuracy (standard 147s were all over the place) and it beat the hell out of a cheaper scope mount ( replaced, and an expensive lesson in scope mount quality there. I learn everything gt he hard way...) The small frame 308 is intriguing, admittedly, but I don't think anyone has ot dialed in yet.....unlike the ar 10 size frames.

[@flywheel986]

Been on the range with my buddies canned SFAR, the thing is still loud,and you ain't sneaking up on anybody. After shooting a full mag, my friend looks like a coal miner from all that gas backing up in his face. I have one, and it operates great using good ammo with heavier cartridges. Pretty sure Ruger never imagined this weapon as a stealth sniper. Pretty sure they wanted to offer a light weight platform for sending .308 rounds down range. I decided to trade noisy for reliability, and even if I don't look and sound like an "operator", those 21 match grade rounds are still gonna hurt

[@Drewsadventures00]

The fact you having all the problems and I’m over here no problems at all using hand loads and factory and I just put a can on it and no problems love it

[@billstevens5277]

Can't get one, my antenna is built into the car window.

[@Hoplopfheil]

My new truck has a shark fin thing on the roof. I hate the future.

[@MYDOGBUD]

Got a 5.9 lb Rogue and using a Riflespeed system with a Silencer Co Hybrid 46M ...I'm very pleased with the groups I'm getting and very reliable ...not had the problems Ruger SFAR owners had with the POF but then the Rogue cost more and it has a roller pin bolt and their G2 chamber extraction system that will run Chinese Lacquer coated steel case no problem as well...

[@edwardmartinez9835]

Thanks for this review and all valid points. I am still considering this rifle as it is a sub 10lb 308/7.62 nato rifle. Pretty amazing development and price point from Ruger, all things considered.

[@sirbalanced5486]

Sidebar: the Ruger 5.56 has been a solid choice for an entry level rifle

[@SlavGuns]

Great video. Surprised to hear of so many gas issues but I believe it. Nice call on that new gas block. Only issues I had reliability wise was suppressed, so tuned a load for that. Accuracy wise, it's 308. Tested 6 or 7 different factory options... 7.62 ammo ranged from 2 to 3 MOA... 308 ammo was far better and was able to get consistent 1 MOA groups and no problem shooting the gun out to 750 yards. Just picked up the 6.5 CM and REALLY looking forward to stretching it out there.

[@calholli]

Even if it's over gassed-- it shouldn't rip the casing on extraction like that. Chris at SAS has a very good hour long video on buffers and buffer weights. Your issue is that it was trying to extract too soon, so the chamber still has very high pressure as the bolt is already trying to move. This is likely because the bolt is so light weight. So what you can do is add an H2 or even H3 buffer: what this does is add more inertia to the BCG and it will delay the acceleration of the bolt for just a slight moment which allows the projectile to have more time to exit the barrel, which will drastically drop the pressure in the chamber and that will keep the casing from getting stuck... The problem is TIMING-- not necessarily over gassed, but just that the bolt is too light. A heavier buffer would at least stop the casing from sticking to the chamber walls... You can get a 3 pack of tungsten weights from brnells for twenty-five dollen and just swap them in the buffer you have. Even though you already "fixed it" -- I would still do this anyway. It should keep you out of that window of high chamber pressure: to the point that it should never rip a case again, no matter what setting you are on.

[@K-bob_45]

I’m pretty certain Bartocci said the buffer weight was tied directly to the barrel contour and was a way to reduce bolt bounce more than anything. At one point I had a S&W AR that would rip case rims off. Did it with CAR and H3 buffer alike.

[@jonathansmith7306]

That doesn't make sense. The bolt's weight does not matter, it is locked in place until the gas system unlocks it.

[@calholli]

@@K-bob_45 That's true. the inertia works in your favor in both directions.

[@K-bob_45]

@@calholli I think it was more than inertia. I think by being a thicker contour you get a more elastic collision.

[@calholli]

@@Stribogboi Most people just don't realize how integral the buffer is to the system working correctly. Granted, Ruger should have already tuned it correctly to begin with.

[@mtnbound2764]

the amnt of gas coming out of the bolt is pretty insane

[@mikelyon5595]

Thank you for your honest appraisal!

[@keepyourbilsteins]

How TF are we supposed to use rifle grenades without a 0 gas setting? Hmm?

[@Hoplopfheil]

I didn't think of that.

[@leaningfree]

So after 6 months and 4 returns with my SFAR, Ruger is sending me a new one. I'm hoping it will work - because I love the potential of the platform. But it is hard to be optimistic.

[@joshballard8546]

I don’t have 40 rounds through my SFAR. I’m having failure to extract problems already. I’ll reluctantly spend the $$ to make it run. I probably should have gone with a PSA AR10. May still grab one.

[@kennnuthatch5724]

Picked up mine Friday, put 65 rounds through it and no malfunctions. I left the gas block setting on 3 as that was where it was set in box.

[@underthasea]

my favorite channel on entire youtube. I just bought Riflespeed gas block after watching this lol

[@charmingmander331]

That rifle has extremely inconsistant ejection even with the riflespeed.

[@mtnbound2764]

that flashlight set up is slick. thats what im looking for, no fuss, no cables. simple light IF you need it, not in the way the other 99% of the time.

[@rik4369]

Appreciate the review. I have yet to try mine out after months. Waiting to finish my scope or red dot decision.

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

Hmmmmm this seems to be a common issue with these super “affordable” AR10 factory rifles. I started to kick myself in the A$$ because I spent a good chunk of money on my Aero build. All good quality parts on mine Krieger bolt and barrel, Geissele, Magpul, JP just to toss out some of the names I invested in. But then all these rifles started to hit the market over the last couple years. Making me believe I wasted my money apparently I didn’t because my rifle does cycle and it does it reliably with sub MOA groups. My build was a carbon copy of Johnnys reloading bench rifle. And with his load development my rifle shoots just as good.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

Sfar with flow through VENTUM by hux works is great. Also a H2 buffer weight helps slow bolt down for increased reliability.

[@donvann]

I added the H2 to both my SFAR and POF Rogue and that was key. Also added dictator gas block to Rogue. They both work now.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

I’m confused how these gun guys are being stumped by AR gas tuning. You’ve got 3 options, spring weight, buffer weight, and gas settings. Fine tune each til desired results. It’s basic AR stuff. 🤷‍♂️

[@Enjoyer.762]

​@@UpliftyourbrothersIf you're going that route, you might as well just assemble a build. You're missing the point that a factory rifle ought to be reliable out of the box and not require modifications such as tuning the gas system. Let's face it, this Ruger is junk.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

⁠@@Enjoyer.762 I’ve had zero malfunctions. But your right, they need to have worked out all the bugs for all the builds. I agree it’s unacceptable, but it’s also a good idea to know how to tune a gas AR rifle. It’s like a dirt bike that has a carb not jetted correctly from the factory. Sucks if you don’t know how to rejet, not a big deal if you do.

[@davidjirvin5410]

Thanks for all your information I was going to buy this one but I end up getting the PSA AR-10 instead and having more adjustments with the gas system then the four position one that that one has and I haven't had any problems like you're having I did put a silicone heavier spring in and a 5.4 heavier buffer and a muzzle brake that's supposed to reduce the recoil 74 percent 😊

[@rob6850]

Gotta love it when a gun just *works*

[@Token_Black_Guy]

Hell yeah Todd howard

[@TheHandHistoryVault]

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[@paulcastillo239]

i built a couple of Knight's SR25/Armalite AR10 bastard rifles in the '90s, Reliable extraction was realized with a heavy stainless buffer with a tungsten anti-bounce weight of my design and a David Tubb flat wire spring. Bolt carrier/Buffer group needed more mass and more linear spring rate. I'd try the flat wire spring first. My two cents...

[@Sig_P229]

People think I look nuts when I go to the range with 2 extra duffle bags full of cleaning supply, bore snakes, cleaning rods, tools, batteries, etc. I cannot tell you how many times I have used it.

[@HWG-wm8ld]

Two extra duffel bags? You one of those rubes that brings a wagon too? Thank da lard I don’t have to use public ranges, it’s like taking public transportation

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

I bet you could drill out a custom gas for hole on the off setting. The question is what size should the Gasport be that you drill?

[@Complicasiian]

Tarred and feathered outside REI 💀💀💀

[@SMACK1978]

Man I used to hate tuning gas blocks. The rifle speed looks great but I would put that two hondo toward my tax stamp and get a flow through can. Since I’ve been shooting the Huxwrx my life is so much easier

[@ReticentIndignation]

May be overkill, and I realize it isn't apples to apples, but Patriot Ordnance Factory's Dictator gas block has 9 positions with one being off. Odd that Ruger would find 4 to be plenty.

[@robertpettus6037]

As fellow riflespeed advocate and customer I have some charging handle and recoil reducing advice. I recently put together a build utilizing the riflespeed gas system and paired it with a tubbs flatwire rifle length buffer spring, kynshot 5007 9mm hydraulic buffer, and an a5 length buffer tube from dark hour defense, and an Armageddon tactical gms-15 evo charging handle. I believe dark hour defense is a sister company or has a tie of some sort to v seven as it looks identical to the other v seven buffers I've bought in the past. The rub is the buffer and flatwire spring is a bitch to get in and out, probably a retainer out there that alleviates this, but it functions better than I dreamed it would have with recoil mitigation. The charging handle has a section of rubber that seals to the top of the lower receiver which came out almost immediately but even without that I have zero gas coming back getting into my face so I don't really care. I may try to add something back in its place but for now I'm happy with it. The hydraulic buffer gave me pause at first as I have several issues with them years ago leaking, but comparing them side by side it looks like they've had multiple revisions and upgrades since the old ones and with about 420 rounds of various ammunition types through it so far I've had zero issues, making it about 300 rounds longer than the old ones I had previously, ymmv. Hope this info finds you well.

[@thatbme35]

I put a Riflespeed gas block on my Grendel build. Very impressed.

[@LordSStorm]

Honest review, love it. I want to buy the SFAR, but I just cant when they cant fix the issues. And i've had a number of 308 rifles none have had problems, but none use adjustable gas blocks, or if they did I never had to touch them. Then again I dont suppress.

[@pogo458]

Yep.. I changed the hangar and installed the rifespeed gas block…. Good to go thanks shoots all ammo

[@dennishines9996]

my dog's feet smells like corn chips

[@bghiggy]

They got yeast. Easy fix

[@StealthTiger99]

12:04 mans really hit us with the super easy barely an inconvenience xD

[@theunofficialresults231]

My POF Rogue has the same issue as the SFAR on setting 3, it destroys brass rims although there are no "settings " for gas adjustment on the POF. I contacted them and they told me it was "normal"!

[@FierceMouse]

Jesus Christ is King, not a swear word!