Talents might be the BIGGEST Update in Overwatch 2 History!

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[@sosleepy3333]

I've been playing nothing but junk lab, I love it! I wish it was how the game actually is lol

[@BorotalcoSuperFresh]

The only way I can see something like that works is just going full Paladins and let us make pre-made loadout to pick when we choose a hero, letting out the crazy stuff and the"evolution" of the ability. Just tailoring the heroes to fit you better.

[@tc_kommark]

I did really like tailoring my character to fit my playstyle, but I wish that they had hanzo in the event.

[@bsiebz]

He’d need a “talent” to ride on Orisa! 😂

[@Freddy-FNBR]

@@bsiebzYES

[@crossdaboss8914]

We are just becoming paladins honestly

[@pwpqwq7648]

@@crossdaboss8914 Paladins is not the game that invented talent system tho. If anything, it only makes replayability better, so it's only good

[@tc_kommark]

@@bsiebz OMG THAT'S PERFECT

[@TundraCrow]

I do like the idea of allowing players to tweak their hero to fit what they feel is needed for a fight. Allowing play style changes that lean from doing more forms of damage, utility for supporting the team or increasing crow control, and of course support like abilities for dps and tank roles. I personal enjoy the idea of being able to provide healing to my team as a tank Soaking damage and turning that into healing or other forms of mitigation.

[@therealdatenshi]

They could add a sort of budget system where the higher power cards cost more than the less powerful ones, and you have to fit your loadout within a certain allocation of points. Maybe the price of each card could change depending on what round / game time you unlock it?

[@crossdaboss8914]

This is the same system they have in paladins

[@therealdatenshi]

@@crossdaboss8914 every day we step closer to paladins, 5v5, DPS passive, health regen.. might as well continue the trend right?

[@TheChrisLouis]

It's what overwatch 2 should have been. Let's be honest.

[@spOOnOrg]

As an arcade game mode or even quick play? Yeah sure but NOT in a competitive environment. Balancing these heroes and talents would be a nightmare and they're already walking on thin ice with these balance changes.

[@StubenRocks]

Perhaps this is what Overwatch 3 will be.

[@moist_onions]

Apex did it and kept the change, it works in long term games like that but overwatch isn’t apex, despite how much blizzard wishes it was

[@originalwazer5854]

Feel like thy can add do mission for storyline and zie how we feel about. Yes we gonne play de same mission again but if it works thy make it zoals thy say 3 mission per year❤❤. Just idea

[@brianwallace4454]

​@@spOOnOrg it was supose to be for the pve before they canceled it

[@An0nym0us_Pers0n]

There’s so much effort put into this because this was meant to be OW2, since the absolute murder of PVE its just recycled assets.

[@Eostud]

I do actually believe that they will do some form of light talent system, not like this event but more like the quick play: hacked event we had a few months ago. Where the passives are for the roles instead of individual characters, either way, would be fun!

[@eetdotmp4]

devs already said they liked it and would look to add it to core play but everyone agreed that needed to be hero specific not role

[@randomguy-yl2ml]

i fell in love with playing rein again in this mode not because of some crazy modifier, but just because of the 30% pin speed upgrade, nothing feels as cool in the whole game currently

[@faxmine]

Also the 85% movement increase when holding shield. Holy shit it feels so crazy good it felt DISGUSTING when I came back to regular qp and comp and used rein shield.

[@Cristian_WOJC]

It does spice things up alot and I am really enjoying it. However I must comment the fact that the random selection of what mutations you get to choose from provide and unfair advantage. For example: In one of my games as Ashe I was up against another Ashe and the game was giving my useless movement mutations while giving my enemy useful damage mutations. If this is to be incorporated into the game then this MUST be corrected.

[@eetdotmp4]

they won't be doing it randomised in coreplay

[@Cristian_WOJC]

@@eetdotmp4 I hope so, this gamemode is the only good thing of this season so far

[@FestVors]

Gambling is fun

[@grr-OUCH]

I think pre-defined loadouts/paths is the best idea. Either let you make your own, like in Paladins, or just have you choose one. But honestly, I think having maybe three that you can switch between per character, pre-defined by Blizzard, is the best way. Some characters might have more paths to choose, like four or five, depending on how many styles that character can play.

[@ping.png3284]

ooo i agree cuz i feel like this could help with non stop counter swapping

[@randomguy-yl2ml]

i think in that mode you could pick 3 heroes before the match or when the map appears, and then edit your builds if you want to, and during the match you can swap to any of the three heroes

[@fogdragon23]

I could also see this as a possible permanent or semi-frequent arcade addition that shuffles the limited roster every patch. The builds are so chaotic you can play characters you don't normally play and do well.

[@stroads.]

The biggest issue with this mode is not being able to switch, esp from mirrors on tank. Because then it just comes down to who got RNG better for their mutations

[@BendMax]

I would like some less powerful passives that are unique to the hero you play. Maybe it could help with all the counterswapping bs. Maybe let heroes like sig, dva, orisa genji take less damage from beams while using defensive cd's, but they lose out on a different passive. It's a really cool idea but i feel like it would be HELL to balence, i would still like to see it though.

[@Jamie_Ashe]

5:50 bro, you need to voice act in this game 😂

[@JP_CHICO2000]

My best Ashe games have been during the new game mode. Lots of potgs. I like being able to perform the way I want to by having the ability to tailor her to my play style.

[@kobe1545]

I like this mode so much, I can't stop playing it xD Like even heroes I usually never play such as Genji are such a blast in that mode. Would love to see more of this! GREAT VIDEO!!!

[@RyuNoZero]

enlarged Lava Fire Strike with Melee Attack Cool Down Reset and the stacking Melee Berserk Buff was my Reason to play Rein!!!

[@EliasBremer]

I’ve also played like 90 % lab. It’s so much fun and it also made me learn some heroes I didn’t really play before as much making me better at them in standard play. I really hope this stays, it’s sooo fun

[@demigurlxd5781]

Make mystery heros an arcade mode with its original rules. Then release this idea as a draft mode with talents you do the counter picking in the charecter select menu and and have some hero bans and from there no swaps and the rest of the conter picking is done with your talents

[@Circurose]

The problem will be you need to remember all the unique passives Heroes can pick, which is gonna be more than 100+. It's not like Mobas where there are set items.

[@officialgrindr]

I agree that this event is likely a test for something bigger (and I hope it is) however, I’d much rather it be solely for PvE. It looked really fun to use those crazy abilities against mindless bots. And similarly to the pickable passives, it makes the gameplay too complicated and counterplay becomes erratic and unpredictable. You just never know when Orisa will have the javelin spin deflect or when Genji will have a lengthened deflect for example

[@Orchal86]

Love the mode too. And you are right, which I did not realize before. This mode is far to much effort to just have it for an event, they plan something with it.

[@ThisBeardGames]

Like you, my friend group and I have been having a blast. So much so that we haven't had this much fun since that QuickPlay:Hacked. League of Legends had a similiar game mode called Arena only differecne being you were able to re-roll your talents. I think if it became it's own game mode with unranked/ranked would be perfect for what this game needs. Puts player agency/player choice back in the hands of the players while also keeping things fresh and exciting. Maybe to ease the work on the dev's maybe if they added more hero's to the roster over time might be easier on them.

[@MrNobodyX3]

"A Dva with shotguns, what!?" .... she normally has shotguns....

[@dragonrider221]

Weird. Maybe doesn't play and has writers

[@Butchass6969]

Chill smartass they are usually like little miniguns not shotguns

[@RickSanchez-ec7zm]

sure, more things to balance lmao

[@christ9145]

Very similar to how “Battleborn” was! I love the mode!!!

[@dapperblack3509]

This would be an amazing change to the game. Being able to change a hero to fit ur playstyle instead of the general playstyle would be amazing!!! Imagine giving reaper a passive tht allows him to fly temporarily while in wraith. Makes getting pharah out the sky a lil easier

[@Erdeppol]

I usually don't play a lot of the new arcade gamemodes but this one I've been playing quite a bit. I enjoy that the mode is also a little longer compared to normal, like extra rounds.

[@Skele_Rat]

I avoid hating on things as much as possible but this mode is surely not for me. I prefer not to play the game than to play this junkenstein new mode

[@CoolExcite]

I think the tf2 approach would probably work better. Like you don't upgrade you heroes mid-match instead there are alternate versions of each ability and you make the loadout you are using before the match

[@borisdanyukov8267]

Going on a similar route to Paladins would make this game unrivaled in its area. Tailoring your favorite characters to your playstyle, adjusting your strategy and not your character. Hell we may even stop asking for Rein buffs. The potential is unlimited

[@nikirol4051]

I think they should remove all randomness from these upgrades and give each hero like 4 upgrade trees that they can level up throughout the match. Maybe the same way you gain Ultimate charge, you'd gain EXP to level up your skills mid-game. For the hero swapping problem, you could allow swapping with this system and allow you to respec your EXP at any time in spawn so even if you switch heroes, you'd just get all your spent EXP back. Though it's possible that if you can respec that easily mid-game, it would be near impossible to predict what your enemy is able to do, so maybe the selected upgrades should be visible the same way the selected hero is?

[@thatmysticalcake7488]

I can admit its a little strange that theyre trying these passives so much recently but I cant help but think they are reusing PvE talents and that's it. From what we've seen hero missions were scrapped pretty early but these missions seemed pretty functional from the early showcases back in 2020 and 2021 I cant help but think the reason they axed hero missions was because of the talent trees, making 50+ talents for every hero is an insane amount of work and sure theres a lot less in this mode and theres some filler like +10% damage or whatever but to put what I think is the reason hero missions were cancelled into a core mode is a little bit of a stretch IMO but I hope I'm wrong.

[@nahaight1373]

You’re wrong, it was money and greed.

[@darkordii]

Can they just fix not being able to buy gold guns on console😞

[@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l]

How I'd fix it is you pick up an item that temporarily boosts your skills rather than have players umm and ahh over what they can pick.

[@SuzuSaturday]

I loved it, I felt like I was playing Heroes of the Storm all over again but in OW.

[@jobbiestache9530]

Definitely was so much fun !! Made the game feel like ow2 that we all waited for

[@Nolloway]

It's fun because there's no meta really and people are just doing whatever. The second a meta forms the feature becomes boring. Meta forms once everyone realizes which powers are the best to pick each time that's what gets picked. For example, if you don't think most people are going to expect each support to max heal/support choices rather than damage (because they can see your build) the fun is over.

[@NerfSonicRDFilmTK]

Hey, Omnic Post. Aside from the obvious issues with the mode like the locked heroes, I've actually been enjoying the talents and I think this could be a cool thing to add as an official thing. Whether or not this happens, I think one thing is certain; it's nice to see the devs trying something different and the animators deserve a raise for giving dedicated animations for specific talents.

[@bsiebz]

The system looked like what they might’ve used for PVE; but those PVE ideas are being brought in to PVP-like you mentioned pickable passives was a prior test. (I’m still upset for the lack of PVE and getting rid of the gauntlet awhile ago, it wasn’t great but it was “hope”.) I’m on the fence if I like this idea; the Halloween mode feels a little like a chore to do the challenges. Also the randomized talents on each step can be annoying, we should be able to see all talents in the beginning and get “points/pumpkins” each round to choose from the hero’s full list of mutations. Thanks for the video and thoughts on this, Deemzies

[@boinggerss1560]

The way you all think loadouts are coming are crazy 😂 they have skins that have the guns customized you can’t give sym a Cassidy revolver how will the skins work and abilities to fit a play style the whole point of a character is their play style lol and making abilities stronger isn’t a “play style” it’s making their abilities op it would have been fun for pve but for pvp it’s gonna overwhelm new players and only make the gamers they have now more mad and toxic in games bringing back “why is PvE gone” conversation

[@wanderingyeehaw]

it reminds me of Paladin's card system, and i think that's exactly what this game needs to add another level of complexity and depth to overwatch. oh wait he started talking about paladins as i was typing 😭

[@shaneh3109]

It's just left over stuff that was supposed to be in pve

[@МистерИ-ю8л]

Yes but no, the ability to change characters is good, but I noticed that people rarely change characters in qp, comp. When they made mauga available to everyone, I thought "finally the tank will take mauga against mauga" but no. this is a problem, but not for all players, some do not care about the result of the match and the team, some do not see that the team lacks damage, some, if they see a problem, do not know who to take, etc. There are many reasons.

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

Guys 6v6 playtests are coming in season 14 with the new tank. Talents will probably come in season 15 to keep the hype.

[@FestVors]

Finaly beta test will be over

[@gabriellemus8173]

If they do plan to add this to the game one day hopefully they will give Ana a talent that gives her critical damage and healing .

[@pest5373]

they cant even balance heros with static kits this would be an absolute nightmare when a meta is established

[@lloydfromfar]

Oh.. that looks fun, might have to check it out!

[@marcusbullock2753]

Keep the talents and actually have a balance team make them fair and not too over broken and overwatch 2 is saved. You can play the same hero on the enemy team but they play 100% differently. This might save overwatch as a whole.

[@ponx_apex]

A separate ranked system with talents would be better than having ranked on be role q and open.

[@Redknight-g1z]

I think when it is over, they are not used them again and not come back

[@AlexTheHorrid]

This only exists because they’re re-using assets from the campaign, that’s it. I think the new feature is just 6v6 and heavily marketing it.

[@MichaelNolan-fn2gl]

Imagine if they just upped the difficulty on the pve campaigns and just used this system within each level... They could make it more like a rogue lite and create instant variety. It wouldn't be quite what we were promised but it would be better than nothing. Also yes I realize I should just be giving up on them trying pve again at this point but like the answer is kinda right there

[@kingQuax]

There's a few things that are unfair about the Halloween event and that's some thing are way to op such as Moira's exploding balls combined with 3 balls it's a one shot and a easy way to get potg

[@miky_0115]

Honestly i loved pasives from that quick play hack event, becouse it gave the possiblility to adapt to different situation without the need of switching, wenever you wanted, BUT i dont like the talent sistem becouse it's: 1 random; 2 unrelayable becouse if i wnat to play a certain playstyle i need to wait a certain number off rounds and 3 i cant predict in any way what will the enemy do becouse there are too many option, and i'm not talking about playstile but whah ablility whill they chose. So after all that i think that a sistem that let you customise stuff in overwatch can work and can be fun, but i dont think that the talent sistem is the solution P.s sorry for my english

[@salinaember9527]

this mode is the best thing i've seen added in overwatch 2. so addicting and fun.

[@MikeRetroModz]

Yeah sure they gave a dash to Ana in last event and it felt amazing, I dont see that in the game now

[@nox4575]

I’m gonna be honest. I WHISH this would only be a test run for a much bigger project, kinda like what the original PvE vision was. BUT… I believe this is only the rest what was left from the originally PvE talent tree and this is only recycling… -_-“

[@dgiorr]

Paladins talents yes, but this system where you buy upgrades hell nah, ow is already powercreeped af we don't need mid game power ups, but the paladins talents system would add more choice, variety in play style and complexity which would be good imo. When it comes to the effort they put in the mode, i dont think this means they will implement it, this is clearly reused pve stuff again, soldier literally had the same talents in the pve preview, so just like mirrorwatch this is probably a time gated thing reusing pve stuff but in a pvp setting.

[@shafikkrisoondatt4002]

This is why i prefer tf2 (no disrespect to overwatch) but being able to make my character my own to fit my own playstyle feels way better then playing a charater on overwatch i like but being hella restricted

[@AthleticGuy54]

I like the talents but make it so charcters rotate like once a month

[@christopherwilson5300]

I really want them in workshop

[@timmymcgypsy6234]

I thought blizzard actually grew some balls and were going make talents part of the main game

[@OobakaSenkoDama542]

I love the game mode so much I'll be legitimately sad and a lil more bored again once its gone Also Deemzies i doubt they're cooking something new, rather these seem more like leftovers from scrapped PvE

[@thomasanderson2551]

it's probably just recycled backlog content from what was supposed to be pve stuff, sadly. i do very much enjoy the creativity of it though. halloween matches have been fun.

[@Alphadragon1979]

Let me start off by saying, I've only just now found you and only watched a few of your videos...but with those few I absolutely love your personality! Definite subscribe!. With that said, on to the video comments...I agree, the mode is fun...sometimes...sometimes you just get trash picks while the enemy team gets all of the amazing stuff...and you just get steam rolled...this is something they will have to address...Seeking helix rockets with improved cooldown...yeah...that sucks to play against... I think the original that they did was great...choose a buff, they weren't game breaking but gave you just enough to feel...different....these cards can become a bit wild, however....and like you, I think they put just a little too much work into it for it to be a one off thing, so I feel SOMETHING is coming down the pipe. I just hope they make the right choice through it all.

[@TheOmnicPost]

Thank you! And I agree, the RNG needs to go. It can be frustrating. It needs work.

[@watchpointoh3354]

So you're telling me that adding a talent system to PvP is easy, but creating a permanent co-op gamemode for all maps, where you fight bots and complete a series of randomly selected objectives, using assets and tools that already all exist within the game and its code and have existed for years, and adding said talent system to that, is impossible?

[@deanyl1763]

Maybe they should do this concept in another game? Maybe a PvE game? Perhaps call it overwatch 3! Then they should put the PvP in overwatch 3 too so that there's not a big devide. Honestly they should put the entire Overwatch 2 team on that Overwatch 3 PvE stuff!

[@moniXluv]

Overwatch would actually be watchable if you couldn’t change heroes. Team comp and player to player comms would actually have to exist.

[@deeziegaming8545]

So you're telling me the feature many ppl saw years ago in the PVE promos for ow2 that most agreed would b amazing if implemented somehow in pvp to keep the game fresh is now being beloved by many in this game mode? Call me shocked 🙄

[@TheSupportWitch]

No no no, counterwatch is the WORST part of this game. The fact that I can pick what I AM IN THE MOOD to play and not get couterpicked (*cough* sombra *coughcough*) is a breath of much needed fresh air.

[@Kandiski]

God NO. No please. NO. They can't balance a singular version of a hero, imagine the absolute shit show it could be with multiple cards and numbers

[@daikio420]

if that's the case, please PLEASE remove mercy's talent to where she's invincible when reviving

[@glmedsf]

I really don't want overwatch 2 to become paladins...

[@strombo530]

Why would that be bad? If they're so insistent on staying in the 5v5 corner they've backed themselves into, becoming a paladins clone is honestly the only step they can take to keep 5v5 working. They're terrible at balancing anything from buffing characters that NEEDED to be nerfed and nerfing characters that NEEDED to be buffed! Then whenever they go and 'rework' a character, they don't rework them at all and instead give them some QoL updates! Becoming a paladins clone with this 5v5 garbage would allow them to better approach 5v5 as now you can make a bunch of different ways to play 1 character. If they went back to 6v6, then they wouldn't NEED to do something like this as the game can stand on its own two feet better.

[@shaine9968]

Who would've know overwatch devs, adding content to your game makes people want to play it 😂

[@xieolx]

I want this To be a permanent mode. I really enjoy it. 🔥

[@fractalelf7760]

Adding talents AND going back to 6 v 6 would go far to rejuvenate the game.

[@chill5721]

Yeah , 6v6 is the best thing to ever happen

[@joshuagravois6812]

ppl think 6v6 is just gonna solve everything it will have it’s own problems, don’t think it’s just gonna “save” overwatch, there is more to it than just the player count

[@chill5721]

@@joshuagravois6812 right , but is a positive step forward ffs

[@fractalelf7760]

@@joshuagravois6812 Oh my sweet, sweet summer child… no we don’t but it is overall better for the game. The biggest issue is tank imbalance which two tanks helps average out.

[@FunniestFern]

Yeah then I’ll get to play with my tank duo finally

[@RyanRynoldsTwin]

I think the hero lock in is what overwatch needs, every other hero shooter is like that and it makes u have to be good with that hero and careful of picking in pre lobby(a skill in itself)

[@sideburngthepeacebringer27]

So you could go back to old Orisa?

[@Yo-Ween_Shows]

PvE will happen??? YEAH MAN. OVERWATCH FOREVER. VIDEO GAMES. XBOX. YO•WEEN. I AM……….

[@mycelia_ow]

4:28 - On the bottom right of the screen, why does it say "Echap" instead of "Escape" or "Esc" to close? Lmao what is this?

[@TheOmnicPost]

French (i use azerty)

[@mycelia_ow]

​@@TheOmnicPost Ooh interesting, I forgot there's keyboard other than qwerty lol. Ty.

[@SayajinKanak]

It's really fun

[@Jkclone056]

Ow2 not beating the "paladins but better" allegations now lmaoo😂

[@Jell8D]

they DEF got this from Paladins

[@Smashaflee]

Isn't this just the talents left over from the scrapped PvE?

[@TundraCrow]

Leftovers can still make fantastic dishes if you know how to use them.

[@TheBagMan0]

If orisa wasn’t in it it’d be 100x better

[@tomn.9987]

There are missteps like invincible Genji and Moira with insta-kill orbs. Then there is Pharah who often ruins the game. Overall though they got rid of most of the annoying characters for this mode. I'd say the did well this time.

[@TheBagMan0]

@@tomn.9987 pharah isn’t all that bad unless you’ve got do deal with her on a map with high cover and she has a mercy

[@disgustedguy]

6:16 - So you're saying Team 4 created a problem for which they might offer a solution that wouldn't be necessary if they hadn't created the problem in the first place? #SombrasReworkS13 I didn't think of that. Nice. I guess you just made me cross the "1,000 suns" mark. Ôo

[@TheOmnicPost]

Hahaha, look, for everyone who hates the Sombra change, there is someone who loves it. The same is true for the Ramattra change, and for every change ever, actually. So why not offer choices?

[@disgustedguy]

​ @TheOmnicPost Normally I would agree. But I don't see how they give you choices here without first massively restricting certain freedoms. That's a... very shitty approach, isn't it? Ôo They did not add something on top, they took something away, what probably never comes back. and if it comes back, then probably as "optional". That's ... not okay. (re-edit: I did "vent" a bit on your Discord, if you're interested. I think my OW time was reached its end phase.)

[@sparda2098]

Paladins has been doing this since it launched, yet their talents are a bit more balanced. I really hope they start implementing these little mechanics that make us enhance our playstyle with our characters.

[@FalconB76]

This feels like the next step in Overwatch PVP. Customise your build just like paladins and cod.

[@HelloMrDino]

YOU SAW MY COMMENT BUT DIDNT LIKE IT HOW DARE YOU lmao but seriously nice to know that it was seen

[@dogomage9003]

I asumed they just recycled pve stuff

[@junlei6964]

Although I like this there is too much rng

[@CsPPP237]

No, not in the base game

[@Forgetthereality]

Overwatch starting to sound like paladins

[@SweetSourPickle]

Same reason why I never liked Paladins.

[@SilkHomeGroup]

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

[@RockGob]

Holy sh*t it's paladins

[@rosarianathorn]

No thank you.