Talking About Eunectes For Way Too Long | In-Depth Eunectes Analysis

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@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
SPECIFICATIONS: >Editing mistake at 11:30. The subtitles should say "Near the start of the video I called her a "Parasite unit"". There could also be other spelling mistakes and typos I did not notice due to the length of this video and being an ESL, so apologies. >Module 2 was clearly meant to work with Skill 1, despite the exaggerated way I talk about it. The idea was clearly to make a Module specifically to synergize with Skill 1, since Module 1 literally doesn't do anything if you use that skill, and in that Module 2 works well. However, it's not worth it to get a whole module for Eunectes's Skill 1. >About Parasite Units, if you want to get really nitpicky you can argue every single unit in the game is a Parasite Unit to some extent. For example, Surtr would be a parasite unit because you have to "accomodate for her" by putting her in places where she can hit enemies. For this video, I meant units that you actively have to play around to negate their weaknesses, or their annoying kits. >Despite Eunectes being now great, I would still argue there is no reason to build her, especially if you have a turbo-stacked meta sheep super sweaty account like mine. Unless you like her. But at least now she isn't actual account damage anymore. Though, she does require a lot of investment with the Module 3, because HG for some god damned reason decided to have module materials be the most scarce and pointlessly time-gated resource in the game.
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 Жыл бұрын
Parasite units is a bit of a dangerous slope to play around with, as the meaning shifts depending on your overall tactic used. If your main strategy is to just not block any enemies a defender would need accommodation to work in a team that is build around the no block idea, and in that case would become a Parasite unit. So it kind of depends on your 'normal' tactic framework.
@littlejohn8435
@littlejohn8435 Жыл бұрын
​@@zomfgroflmao1337 The meaning stays the same since they are high risk, high reward units. Ling being a DP sink and eats deployment limit in a team, Eunectes having big wind-up, Hung useful for high aspd enemies and Aak with friendly fire.
@yufeng1707
@yufeng1707 Жыл бұрын
I want to make a suggestion that for "Normal" units that can be put into any team comp, since you already made a TCG YuGiOh reference, how about "Splashable Units" which is akin to YuGiOh's splashable cards that can fit in any deck? Just some food for thought since Gummy likes cooking food.
@krazy4862
@krazy4862 Жыл бұрын
The nitpick on parasite units doesn't really work. If every unit is a parasite unit, then none of them are, so it's not really useful to say everything needs to be accommodated. Your example argument brings up a good point to clarify though. Placing Surtr correctly is important to her usage, but this is not an accommodation. That's like saying you need to accommodate Nightingale by placing units in her range. Both examples are just basic gameplay mechanics; you place healers where they can provide their healing; you place dps where they can hit something. Certain stages might interfere on certain types of units' usages, but that's more of a stage mechanic to increase difficulty. A normal unit is one that can be used mostly universally, like guardian defenders, assuming they're being used correctly. If your Saria is in some corner of the map and can't heal anyone, and you're not in ch8 with the global mortar enemies, that is on you. That has nothing to do with Saria. Parasite units should be considered as such because even when used correctly, they directly interfere with team synergy, strategy, and flexibility. Eunectes, even with her module, still needs some sort of babysitting, whether it's SP, block, both, or more. This makes her a parasite unit.
@bloodred255
@bloodred255 Жыл бұрын
" However, it's not worth it to get a whole module for Eunectes's Skill 1." CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
@shatterhand_ftw_3965
@shatterhand_ftw_3965 Жыл бұрын
To summarize the video: Eunectes
@zephyrprime8
@zephyrprime8 Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that Surtr is so strong because HG realised how bad Eunectes was and went "crap, we gotta make better 6 star units. Who's next, that redhead girl? Yeah just give her like, a super strong dps or something I dunno."
@eertikrux666
@eertikrux666 Жыл бұрын
Dualist defenders are defenders pretending to be guard Centurion guards are guards pretending to be defenders
@yokashi
@yokashi Жыл бұрын
True, but centurion guards are way more effective than the other. Duelist defender was a really terrible idea.
@MostMoba
@MostMoba Жыл бұрын
​@@yokashi Cant say. They just need Eunectes alter alter with 2 sp cost and 1000% increase stats)
@shionuzuki5549
@shionuzuki5549 9 ай бұрын
@@MostMoba That is the definition of copium. Normal defenders (if you need any) will be better in 95% of use cases. There is very little leeway in the use case where difficulty ramps up (CC high risks) to experiment with niche setups and frankly, who has the time to do that? I can't imagine playing one game for 15 hours a day, 365 days a year.
@MostMoba
@MostMoba 9 ай бұрын
@@shionuzuki5549 ... It s copium from another supah vid. So it's not copium ) Also if her third mod will decrease her dp cost by 8(like aoe caster) and give 2 block off skill it would be not bad ) Or just give her inherit ribbon of honor(+100% atk if block only 1 enemy)
@malwingori9206
@malwingori9206 Жыл бұрын
More people should use a completely unrelated card game to explain gacha games. The video has a good structure and a good mixture between jokes and actual analisys of the operator
@megabenis6257
@megabenis6257 Жыл бұрын
Reasons to E2 max pot module 6 m9 level 90 Eunectes: -Hot -Snek
@crysenthos7022
@crysenthos7022 Жыл бұрын
I like how they somehow made an SP recovery mode that is worse than Defensive recovery. I never understood why they needed to add that SP trait to Eunectes, the 1 block is fair and balanced already IMO.
@tsuki5993
@tsuki5993 Жыл бұрын
holy shit i had the same exact opinions, her entire fucking kit, stats, and archetype completely contradicts one another. and the fact that hg, for some reason, had to balance her out (till she became shitty to use) AND THEN RELEASE SURTR AFTER HER, is just a huge fuck you to anyone that rolled for her
@kyubbikcat2281
@kyubbikcat2281 Жыл бұрын
For some reason, her sp talent stacks with Ptilopsis. So her sp recovery is kinda cracked.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
Does it does also apply to her slowed sp recovery?
@kyubbikcat2281
@kyubbikcat2281 Жыл бұрын
@@Rar830 Yeah. Since the trait goes from “can’t recover sp when not blocking” to “recovers so slowly when not blocking.” In other words, her module allows her to benefit from sp batteries like Warfarin and Liskarm even when she’s not blocking.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
@@kyubbikcat2281 Gotcha, how is it cracked though?
@kyubbikcat2281
@kyubbikcat2281 Жыл бұрын
@@Rar830When you stack her talent with other sp boosts, she gains SP insanely quick. Only when she’s blocking tho. And with the module upgrades and Ptilopsis’ help, she can get her S3 up and running pretty much every fight. And considering how busted she is when her skill is up, it’s kind of insane.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
@@kyubbikcat2281 Cool, I cna see how that would be crazy.
@Xiol02
@Xiol02 Жыл бұрын
No no SUPAH you dont get it, its not about her feet, its about her thighs. If she had normal sp recovery she would be great. She could tank the two enemy archers in TC-4 for the whole time without healers, only her third skill was used at the end to fight the boss.
@Salim-RS
@Salim-RS Жыл бұрын
Got spooked Eunectes pretty early on (around the time great chief rerun) Not 2 weeks after using her, got spooked by Mudrock who basically just curb stomped snek girl into oblivion, genuinely tried to use her in a few stages and it just does not budge given I can simply just, drop a better defender or place Melantha down with less drawbacks. Thank god her Module 1 came about or else she would've stayed as a toddler speed bump for enemy waves.
@IrvineTheHunter
@IrvineTheHunter Жыл бұрын
I got that with Oni, and Blemshine, Blemshine isn't even a good defender RIP.
@echigokurogane8612
@echigokurogane8612 Жыл бұрын
Really makes me wonder about “negative traits” as a whole in the game, because some of them are really a problem for some operators. The Abjurer branch for instance have the negative trait of only healing for 75% of their ATK on skill, but because all of their skills either give them +ATK or +ASPD, that trait isn’t much of a negative to them actually. Which would make me very upset if HG decided that their module removes this negative, even tho their are worse things to deal with on their kits, like their SP costs.
@echigokurogane8612
@echigokurogane8612 Жыл бұрын
*aren’t really a problem
@Raskulle
@Raskulle 10 ай бұрын
I have some news that may upset you.
@vitormax2005
@vitormax2005 Жыл бұрын
Oh, i use eunectes in so many stages she helps so much
@keion_arknights
@keion_arknights Жыл бұрын
0:06 It's me. I'm on my way to Shitaly at this instant to commit horrors this world in all of it's history and prehistory isn't ready for. Here's the thing with these activation "requirements." See Jesselton here 3:57? You drop her right on top of the boss and she solos. That's it. Almost like there's something to her being used for bigger enemies where her cost begins to justify itself for what she does on the map, and she doesn't kill the enemy while trying to charge sp because it's an enemy that actually has an hp bar. Hmm. Firstly, her role. She's a duelist, yes, in role and archetype, which is part of the defender class. However what she does better than any other duelists (the role, not the archetype) is actually surviving things for an extended amount of time, which is actually quite defender of her. Surtr's skill in contrast shortens the more damage she takes, not so good if you're against a bulky elite or boss that is actually actively attacking you and shortening your damage dealt and your time blocking; Eunectes is 35 seconds til the end, and facetanks Patriot with module 2. 5:22 She's block one because she's for heavy enemies. Blocking more doesn't help her charge faster. It does however let her die faster if she's being faced with an actually substantial force. 9:46 Harping on about her sp limitation means you aren't using her to block, which it would be 16/13 seconds of initial sp. Recharging sp without initial generally isn't something done. Most stages only have one boss, and you just retreat once the thing is dead. Some stages may have a stream of threatening elites, particularly in CC, in which you replace the helidrop antics for parking her and Saria to deal with it for the whole map. This "perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances" is actually how to create an interesting operator who specializes in a role, and both works better and justifies itself when facing a certain caliber of enemy, but generally doesn't provide as much in other situations (e.g. no bosses). The issue here that you're describing the whole time is why a duelist doesn't fit into a defender/centurion/laneholder box, when every part of her kit screams boss fighting stat stick.
@ARandomStormtrooper
@ARandomStormtrooper Жыл бұрын
Found the guy who emptied Target's copium tanks section
@QB.113
@QB.113 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Also, love how you used some Neon White tunes--that soundtrack rocks.
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
Neon White genuinely my 2nd favorite game of all time
@TheScreamingIdiot
@TheScreamingIdiot Жыл бұрын
as a proud(sad) snake simper. I honestly can't disagree with this video. It's just fact. However, as Eunectes is "my trashcan operator" I can't help but sit here and think about what modules would do her well. I honestly think a module that simply gives her +1 block, and maybe 0.2+ sp because they seem to love that tiny increase, would do wonders because it actually lets her have more than one enemy queued up to get clapped by her gigantic stats. And it would make it interesting for people to have to choose between constant SP regen(but slower) and the ability to SP battery her. And her being able to finally charge her own damn skill up. But for now, her current module makes her at least usable, and makes me feel like my materials were sliiiiiightly less wasted on M9 lv90in her.. slightly :,)
@Konpekikaminari
@Konpekikaminari 10 ай бұрын
15:14 at least they seemed to have learned it's OK to completely remove a negative branch trait with a Module- as seen with Lumen's Y Module which straight up says "no more reduced healing"
@ilyasykatsuya
@ilyasykatsuya Жыл бұрын
thank you for the new upload! after watching this video now i have a clear conclusion that i gonna cook m6 gummy
@zoramarslink5788
@zoramarslink5788 Жыл бұрын
Gummy is a solid IS2 unit though. Not to mention the ability to heal without health restrictions has it's own benefits.
@littlejohn8435
@littlejohn8435 Жыл бұрын
They fixed the Eunectes problem by releasing Surtr.
@timphiz
@timphiz Жыл бұрын
I'll say it, Eunectes was bad. She was very powerful, but before her module 1 she was just such a pain in the ass to use it was virtually never worth using her for reasons beyond "I want to use Eunectes". Which wasn't a bad reason, I used her for that reason myself, but it didn't make her good. Should you build Eunectes? I'd recommend building any 6* you happen to have since for the most part they have the most interesting kits in the game. Should you pull for Eunectes though? Even after her modules I still wouldn't recommend it for gameplay reasons, she's not really bringing anything important to the table.
@socrates1796
@socrates1796 Жыл бұрын
even after hero module, she still bad imo, all the cost, chore, comp around her is not worth the contibution she makes
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
Bringing an enormous mech to the table seems to me like something important to bring, sometimes.
@phyxiuss
@phyxiuss Жыл бұрын
I never had a problem using her when she came out. Be better 🤪
@Clockwork_Doll
@Clockwork_Doll Жыл бұрын
I have Eunectes at module X level 2. Before her module came out, I had her at E2, and I was trying to make her work in... I want to say a ch10 stage? But she was just barely falling short. So I gave her some levels. She did worse. She was now killing enemies one hit sooner, which meant she was blocking enemies for less time, therefore her skill took longer to come online. Let that sink in. She became stronger and performed worse. By leveling her up, I had performed permanent account damage. No other branch in the game can claim to have less value. She is so fun when she *does* work, but for the love of all that is good, do not make the same mistake I did.
@hughu9340
@hughu9340 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I wanted to hear more about Gummy!
@echigokurogane8612
@echigokurogane8612 Жыл бұрын
Oh and another thing: If HG is gonna be giving branches and specific operators negative traits just to fix them with modules later on, why not just… stop giving them negative traits? Paprika on CN is a Chain medic, and similar to Chain casters her heals bounce to any allies near her target. But for some ridiculous reason they decided that it was a good idea to carry the Chain caster’s branch over: subsequent bounces reduces the healing. They had absolutely no reason to give Paprika this trait, especially because they fixed it with the Chain caster’s module. Best guess is that they did this to give players an arbitrary reason to get her module later one. They did the same thing they did with the Abjurer branch for her where she gains increased ATK and ASPD on her skills to counteract her negative trait. The problem there though is that Paprika is medic, meaning that her ATK interval 2.85s, not 1.6s like the Abjurers. So she gets her heals out slower even with her ASPD buff on one of her skills. Modules only actually buff some operators and branches. For the others modules are just bandaids.
@Mighty_Dork
@Mighty_Dork 4 ай бұрын
She was one of my first 6*. I tried using her and felt disappointed, she didn't feel like she's useful. But then I realized that sometimes she can be a monster. She is a vital part of my auto deploy in the Harold boss fight in the recent Kjerag Degenbrecher event. She's weird but she can be good
@shilohmagic7173
@shilohmagic7173 5 ай бұрын
12:30 that's actually a really good explanation of how Fiammetta fits into my squads. I always bring archetto and an AOE guard to accommodate for Fia's particularities, but she's my favorite DPS in the game. aside from like, yalter and texalter
@echigokurogane8612
@echigokurogane8612 Жыл бұрын
Before I got Tsukinogi I thought she was a parasite operator, but after after getting her and actually using her, I realized she isn’t, at least to a degree. Because of her SP cost on her skills she has trouble getting them up in time for some enemy waves. Ones that pretty much constantly throw them at you with little time to recover. She’s actually pretty decent In Annihilation mission due to waves generally being spaced out more. But even still I’d like hers and the other two’s SP costs reduced because that’s their main problem and that will make them much better and more usable for more players.
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
Tsukinogi isn't a parasite operator because there ain't no way you can accomodate to make her good LMAAAOOOOO
@echigokurogane8612
@echigokurogane8612 Жыл бұрын
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH lmao. But on the real for general content she can be on a more respectable level if HG sees that her problem isn’t with the branch trait or even with her talent to an extent. Her talent was a much bigger problem before the branch rework, but now since she can heal on her own it isn’t that much of a problem now. Her main issues lie with her skills. Her and many other operators main problems are their skills, but because of how modules are done the only way their skills would be buffed is indirectly.
@enzoongweekiat1711
@enzoongweekiat1711 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree with this. If Chen has 50 sp on her third skill, she would be just as terrible but since hers is lesser, she isn’t too bad
@MostMoba
@MostMoba Жыл бұрын
​@@enzoongweekiat1711 It s only 25 second charging 😂 And even less with warfarin .
@meowspark9
@meowspark9 Жыл бұрын
The pain I feel in retrospect thinking about how I pulled for Eunectes, E2 her, and then quit ak for a while. now I have e2 eunectes before mudrock and saria I never use her now because I like to use mudrock and ifrit as my higher cost units and 3 is a crowd.
@gummiken3338
@gummiken3338 Жыл бұрын
started the vid, thinking about how the view may be slightly outdated due to it being from the time before modules, but then i realized, video's LITERALLY from 1 hour ago lmaooo //sits and enjoys supah's voice
@Phos9
@Phos9 Жыл бұрын
Her S3 text said that she attacked all blocked enemies when she was released. It’s unclear if she was meant to have that feature but they forgot, or if it was removed. Her skin does give her that char aznable raging ironhide though. And a little tool belt on her tail.
@MatildaHinanawi
@MatildaHinanawi Жыл бұрын
Naked Amiya soap is SUCH a firstworldproblem LOOL
@ian59
@ian59 Жыл бұрын
The way Euenectes works fits very well in the SSS format (w or w/o module) and she's actually 1 of the meta choices I'd recommend, especially for Toron mine where you start to care a bit more about survival and block count. The mechanics of the mode completely negate all of her weaknesses and she makes a great alternative to Irene if you don't have her or even if you just want to have a backup to mitigate RNG. Unpopular opinion but I think a lot of the people that struggle in SSS or complain about it being too random just haven't adapted to the different meta and haven't adapted their play style to it. Also, there's an argument to be made that building an operator just for SSS is worth doing since it is the main source of end game advancement and you should be able to easily build an operator before the debuffs.
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
You know, I don't think she can gain SP from Vanguard stacks without her module. Haven't tested this tho
@ian59
@ian59 Жыл бұрын
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Fair point that could be true. I also didn't think to test it.
@Rynth
@Rynth Жыл бұрын
You're onto something with the comment of the skill 3 not being AoE, it actually used to say it was AoE on the skill description when she was first released. That was patched out later on, but that + the skill animation leads me to believe she *was* designed to have the AoE feature and it was removed for being... too strong? I can't imagine that would have been too strong at all, but I'm not the balance team.
@ketsura3618
@ketsura3618 Жыл бұрын
I mean, the only ever reproved OP by FrostByte as far I know is Lava Alter lmao. And I tought Eunectes was also know her tighs, its were she actually peaked my interest and made me put her on my "wishlist".
@hierophant5790
@hierophant5790 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@NikkiTheViolist
@NikkiTheViolist Жыл бұрын
I wanted to get Eunectes back when she first came out, but sadly I didn't get her until after her module came out
@lorax1274
@lorax1274 Жыл бұрын
Supah, that's all well and good, but all I see is snek booba on a thumbnail and that's good enough reason for me. However I do not have Eunectes and with all those stupidly stacked new Operators coming out I am not going to go out of my way for her. She is free to spook me however. Preferably in my bed at 3am.
@Einzeilhandery
@Einzeilhandery Жыл бұрын
Heidi is good for operators of this type now, i had a lot of fun using eunectes and aurora
@lilithsstuff
@lilithsstuff Жыл бұрын
The subtitle for "I'm just dude on the internet, not a cop" 😌
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
oink oink
@STREEEEEET
@STREEEEEET Жыл бұрын
Fun video. This was narrated by Nina Conti monkey puppet that got older or his dad. (She is an amazing ventriloquist).
@randomgoat9029
@randomgoat9029 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid supah. 👍
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
thank you random goat you an OG
@randomgoat9029
@randomgoat9029 Жыл бұрын
​@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAHill boost your server when i get money. I love your vids
@edhikurniawan
@edhikurniawan Жыл бұрын
Those vampire enemies love to meet Eunectes with s2. Manfred too. Those vampires increases block. Also Manfred can be stunned. Practically I stall him forever with the help of Honeyberry, to prevent elemental damage. Moreover, the victoria cannon wouldn't prefer to target Eunectes, even when hit, she won't die anyway. With 4000+ HP pool she has.
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike Жыл бұрын
I think HG made those Duelist Defenders when they weren't quite sure how to go forward with enemy units. For example, high atk units going way beyond defender's def would pressure them very hard with too much with 3 block, same for magic/true damage melee units. Eunectes might also have been really good if they went for meatshields (shieldguard) style enemies as a template, where she'd have something stuck to her like Supa's Gummy Pillow. Luckily HG didn't cheap out and went for more diverse enemies/maps. I don't think Eunectes was terrible without the module, Surtr just did her job cheaper, easier and more reliable. You'd really just use Eunectes against a boss to kill him with a single shot of her skill. In the same way, I also don't think Mostima (or Guard Chen) are/were terrible operators, just not META or maybe "MOTA" (Obvious), because if "Surtr it" doesn't work most people will be more likely to try Surtr + other units than changing the method. I also think many older players like myself might have pretty much a core squad of units which work most of the time and just add something like ethan (for those obnoxious spam thingys) or whatever to counter something specific, rather than making a squad after looking at a map and the "parasite ops" would take space away from something like thorns, saria, blaze and so on.
@blitzrohan
@blitzrohan Жыл бұрын
I, too want to go indepth on eunectes
@Efendi_
@Efendi_ Жыл бұрын
I love mommy Ling as a noob she carried me in most stages I can just steam roll almost every time just with her and few vanguard units for SP
@dokutahblob
@dokutahblob Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: just use Gummy instead.
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
You're always so based Blob
@dokutahblob
@dokutahblob Жыл бұрын
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH I may not be a present to mankind as you are, but I do want I can
@lynnoka2432
@lynnoka2432 Жыл бұрын
had some great laughs, thank you
@orange6359
@orange6359 Жыл бұрын
If they gave her normal sp recovery then she will become too strong. 45 sp for a huge wall with ridiculous amount of damage she will enter Surtr tier.😅
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 Жыл бұрын
Now I want a video about the worst modules in the game that do nothing or make the operator worse (is there an example for that?). My most hated are Leizi, which is basically just a stat stick 80% of the time, because for some reason they made her lvl 3 refill her SP even faster so that the module effect can be useless even longer, and Iris, an operator that was balanced in a way that her skill sleeps a target just long enough to fill her attacks up, until the module gave her stats and an additional stored attack, that you can't reach with her skill anymore. Not sure why they thought destroying the natural synergy would add great amount of value there.
@blazingpotatopcgamer2662
@blazingpotatopcgamer2662 Жыл бұрын
Leizi a beast on SSS tho
@asheqabeer1798
@asheqabeer1798 Жыл бұрын
Fartooth mod (I 4got which one) gives her 7 ATKspeed.......... She needs atleast 11 ATKspeed to launch an additional atk in her skill3. It doesn't make her worse but in a vacuum stat boosts aside it is literally useless.
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 Жыл бұрын
@@blazingpotatopcgamer2662 nothing to do with her module, every arts damage dealer with some utility is great in sss ..., that doesn't make her module good or even passable...
@zchen27
@zchen27 Жыл бұрын
Angelina's modules overall are pretty bad for both options.
@kekelyro2950
@kekelyro2950 Жыл бұрын
Litterally Hung's, Blemishines, Seige's, and Elbenholz's modules are pretty trash.
@nightmare6450
@nightmare6450 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest, I never looked at her 3rd skill sp cost and just assumed it was like nian and dusk with like 120 cost
@Jamesss6
@Jamesss6 Жыл бұрын
Eunectes was my frist 6* After 2 years of playing, I can say that mecha snake is the second best defender, only behind the almighty Gummy
@much7395
@much7395 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about awesome snake operator
@zartymophibs
@zartymophibs Жыл бұрын
This is what happened with corroserum, his whole kit is a giant contradiction while his archetype is amazing
@clowncar711
@clowncar711 Жыл бұрын
blast casters aren't amazing, they absolutely suck lmao. and Corroserum's kit also sucks. it's just that Ifrit's kit is so fucking cracked, and even then, the average player will probably only use her when there's a convenient Ifrit lane or if they need a res debuffer
@Kaleforce
@Kaleforce Жыл бұрын
Corroseum's kit doesn't have any anti-synergy, it's just that his numbers are bad.
@yufeng1707
@yufeng1707 Жыл бұрын
Being real, I would have preferred her modules to just give her initial SP to helidrop and use her S3 immediately than a shoddy SP gain when not blocking.
@dustlight1762
@dustlight1762 Жыл бұрын
Everytime SUPAH said "but(t)" My eyes are blessed
@TemjinZero
@TemjinZero Жыл бұрын
A lot of Eunectes design could have been pretty easily fixed by tweaking her stats and giving her a Def or HP --> Atk type modifier where her damage dealt runs of a function of her Def or HP stat, perhaps only during skill activations, or having a passive that does this every few attacks or so. This would give her a 'usually off' state, and then high burst damage without compromising her functions as a Defender/Tank. Really strange to see devs not go this route when it is all over MOBA game design in their offtank type champions... and when you consider also the popularity of MOBAs in Asia as well...
@ArgosTengu0876
@ArgosTengu0876 Жыл бұрын
The video won't say Eunectes is bad. But as a random commenter I will say: Eunectes is a baddie.
@Team_Orchid
@Team_Orchid Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note, S3 has no range expansion. Unless a boss is right in front of the snek or being blocked by her that massive attack stat does not mean a thing, which further limits the spots you can put her in.
@shironeko3457
@shironeko3457 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, what do you expect from a duelist defender? Let's say if she can't even block to gain SP then what the point of increase range of her skill? Think man, think. Her range is fine, if needed they should add AOE to her S3 to synergize with her block count. This is what happen when HG haven't test out new archetype on lower star Operator before released Eunectess.
@souffle420
@souffle420 Жыл бұрын
> _“Perfect harmony of everything that could've gone wrong, going wrong”_ Aah, someone said it. HG just went monke when they made her archetype. Would be great if they reduce the DP cost but nooopeee. HG was like, _“Let's slap this 1 block gurl with 30++ DP cost for no fukken reason. Oh, also, she can't regenerate her SP unless she's blocking someone.”_ Now they fixed her with natural SP regen (albeit crippled), but the cost still stay the same gdi. Even Mostima got a discount. HG, wtf??
@Khroniclas
@Khroniclas Жыл бұрын
My least favourite parasite units are Exu and Aak. Thanks for the new term.
@demoncat1511
@demoncat1511 4 ай бұрын
i don't think i needed to know about naked arknights characters being turned into soap, but thanks ig...
@shouter0086
@shouter0086 11 ай бұрын
To fix Eunectes we just need to change her S1 to "Attack up GAMMA"
@slesh_master
@slesh_master Жыл бұрын
Eunectes Is Just Too *BiG-Brain* for the average doctor to utilize correctly. (has her at 90lvl,3M3skill and max Trust doesn't know there she is actually useful)
@oyaoya7164
@oyaoya7164 Жыл бұрын
Cant argue about it, all facts are true like guard skadi were really bad before the drugs came in (AH module synergy) and this snek woman being an absolute trashcan when not blocking.
@tabooization123
@tabooization123 Жыл бұрын
that yugi analogy
@koekelbagstrogoff966
@koekelbagstrogoff966 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I said the same last time, but here it is again: you're really doing her high atk dirty and she does not deserve it, if you actually respect the role she's meant to play as a duelist. Her being a defender-duelist instead of a guard-dreadnought actually lets her stand her ground against enemies that would pulverize those dreadnoughts in seconds who only have the high attack but an almost non-existant defense, all while still being able to also take them down on their own without needing additional support with that high atk unlike (most) normal defenders who'll only do scratch damage. The 1-block by extension isn't so much a downside as it is a guide for when you should be using her, i.e. in lanes that have elites coming through at regular intervals, because you only want her to block 1 (otherwise very dangerous) enemy at a time anyway, which she's given the tools to take them down in time before the next one arrives. The restriction of non-module sp generation can be a pain in the butt, sure, but again this usually isn't a problem when she can actually survive the damage she's expected to take. If a particular enemy does manage to take her down before her skill is up (with or without medic support) then that'd be an enemy with such high attack you shouldn't have bothered to try to block those to begin with, rather tham using a ranged strategy for those edge cases. I'm not arguing that her modules are bad or unnecessary, only that they make a good operator even better, not a bad operator viable.
@geethaprem580
@geethaprem580 Жыл бұрын
Well penance came up and she can pulzerize anything while having 3 block
@koekelbagstrogoff966
@koekelbagstrogoff966 Жыл бұрын
@@geethaprem580 That comparison doesn't really fly, I'm afraid. Because of her 3-block and how her talent and skills work with the fact she's 'unhealable' and has a lowish defense, Penance excels in high-traffic lanes with a lot of low hp and low damage enemies with the occasional elite, where she can build up overheal and charge her s3 before that elite comes in, whereas Eunectes with her much higher def and being able to be healed excels in low traffic lanes with heavy-hitting elites. Somewhat ironically, Penance's own event had a perfect showcase in the Cleaners, enemies that could hit both hard and fast enough to easily chew through Penance's massive hp bar, but also barely struggled to hurt Eunectes in the same token. Just see S-5 where all the Cleaners could be trivialized simply by puttig Eunectes below their spawn, a position where Penance would otherwise get dunked on.
@Zorgdub
@Zorgdub Жыл бұрын
Wait, what? I was absolutely certain that her S3 made her hit targets equal to her block count. Did I imagine that?
@usagitan
@usagitan Жыл бұрын
11:20 you sound so genuine
@0bscurelight689
@0bscurelight689 Жыл бұрын
if the module 1 just removed her trait then she's just be straight up broken
@pitchblack9053
@pitchblack9053 Жыл бұрын
I see you updated the thumbnail. Still cultured nonetheless.
@PlatinumKrown
@PlatinumKrown Жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that modules are generally (except for abyssals and some others) not strong enough. They should be like FGO Rank Ups, a fix for a mechanic or skill on an operator that has to be earned by investing in that operator. Some operators should get skill buffs like lowering sp cost, and others like eunectes should get her sp gen fixed. They are way too expensive for a marginal + 10% hp at max level. Modules are either not worth the cost or almost perfect by improving an ops niche. Also, I think duelist defenders exist for CC's with anti-guard risks or strictly defender playthroughs, no other reason really makes sense.
@ZAYKONN
@ZAYKONN Жыл бұрын
I did raise Zumama, and altough I don't bring her out that often she is one of the coolest units imo, I am also extremely biased towards every alligator HG threw in Gavial's Return but that's something everyone can understand. Tbh, she's probably very good at handling sort of "Elite" enemies, like the shieldbeares, she doesn't turn them into mash potatoes in one hit while still doing lots of damage. Kinda makes me wanna finish her S3 to test her out, but I'm out of materials after M6 Gavialter and Blaze E2, so if she can't be Lvl69 M3 Mod-1 Lv1 she can wait abit longer. Yes, my ops are Lvl69, because who wouldn't wanna 69 the entire AK cast.
@shironeko3457
@shironeko3457 Жыл бұрын
HG did her dirty, because she's the first one of her archetype, she could be better if they tested more about this very niche archetype. At first, I don't know what they were trying to do to make a Duelist Defender. First let's talk about "Duelist" part, we had Dreadnought Guard which can do the same thing as Eunectess do with 19 DP and better SP generation. The only thing Eunectess has better is S3's healing and S2's stun, but is that the two and only good things to make her worth to use over Dreadnought to deal dmg? How about "Defender" part? Her S1 and S3's DEF increase and self-sustain sound very suitable for defenders' job, but then again her trait and archetype work against her. No one wants a single block Defender with SP issue cost up to 33 DP to defend their base. In the positive side, hybrid like her can survive longer than Dreadnoughts usually do, and deal way more dmg than any melee Defenders that do physical dmg. Then why HG did all the negative things like SP generation issue, high DP cost, only block 1 and have no AOE, is it just to balance her? Then look at Surtr, she has many broken things in her kits but the only downside is the massive HP grain in her S3, the one and only single downside, and even her talent covers it up. Back to Eunectess, so clearly it's not so "balance" to add all those negative stuffs. It's just simply poor design, it's hard but I have to admit it. Overall, Eunectess is still useable and can do some niche stuffs. But useable doesn't mean she's good, because her archetype was designed so poorly that others can easily outclass her. I wish they will rework of buff her and her achertype someday. If we happened to get her alter I would like to see her as one of these 3 archetypes: Fortress, Artificer or Summoner (but we already have a limited Summoner the chance this will happen is almost 0).
@yosi2142
@yosi2142 Жыл бұрын
bro great and informative video. can you do one for Surtr too? Im looking at her kit and I just can't wrap my head around on how to use her. I drop her down with a healer but after the first enemy is fighting with her everyone else just passes through. am I missing something here?
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
I technically made it, it's the "Who's the best operator?" video Here the problem seems to be that you think Surtr needs to stay alive. Don't bother. Place her on the boss, activate Skill 3, and let her kill herself (The other 2 skills, while strong, are not worth using)
@aryapratama5648
@aryapratama5648 Жыл бұрын
Surtr is suicidal operators, you just let her dead and that is okay
@ConexCX
@ConexCX Жыл бұрын
putting a healer for surtr isnt needed just put somebody else like phantom to stall the enemies she is hitting. i just put nearlter and surtr together then they destroy anything that comes
@QDRG64
@QDRG64 Жыл бұрын
How to Surtr: 1. Deploy her against incoming tough enemies/bosses. 2. Activate S3. 3. Win. 3. Retreat her. 4. Repeat step 1.
@markopusic8258
@markopusic8258 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I agree with how you portray "Parasite Units", at the end of the day they are either just normal units but with extra steps, or units with specific applications like Shifters. At the end of the day, what really matters is the universal law of "risk vs reward" or whatever you want to call it, and in that regard, "Parasite Units" merely have more factors in the equation, that doesn't make them good or bad if you ask me, and certainly not so bad that you need to slap such a negative word on them. The bigger issue is probably how Hypergraph specifically designs such kits to hinder units rather than really exploring unorthodox gameplay patterns. By the way, fun fact, I have used Eunectes' S1 exactly one time, in H10-1 because my strategy revolved around indefinitely stalling Manfred (who inflicts the sp debuff thing in that stage) so I needed a really beefy baseline tank and Eunectes S1 was my best option.
@aadipdip1326
@aadipdip1326 Жыл бұрын
I use her in SSS with 2 defender and 3 guard stack using her S2 (accidentally pick wrong skill and due to my blaze die), i would say that it was hilarious 😂
@S1e73n
@S1e73n 10 ай бұрын
Build every waifu you Support. It's on about the love before reality fights back
@Rmotion9
@Rmotion9 Жыл бұрын
guard skadi is not completely worthless do not let this man tell you lies
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
Utterly COMMON Rmotion9 L
@cefrinaldi8060
@cefrinaldi8060 Жыл бұрын
They really should make her able to charge skill without blocking enemy in the first place.
@hyperdokutah5582
@hyperdokutah5582 Жыл бұрын
Man wish i got unectes on contingency cause her along with stainless would be a great synergy Eh its alright i still got golden glow
@antarex4017
@antarex4017 Жыл бұрын
does Ptilo increase the SP charge rate with the first module since charging permanently is enabled (even at a slow rate) ?
@cgyang
@cgyang 11 ай бұрын
Yes
@antarex4017
@antarex4017 11 ай бұрын
@@cgyang thank you
@luckykitty1740
@luckykitty1740 Жыл бұрын
I figured out how to use Eunectes now I think she is one of the best Operators in the game. Trying to explain would take too long and would rob everyone else of the satisfaction of figuring it out.
@grimm7783
@grimm7783 Жыл бұрын
Eunectes s3 for something that has a chainsaw-esque weapon somehow does not do aoe like 99% of aoe guards except Estelle she special
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Жыл бұрын
She hits one person with her fists, and the uncontrollable swaying of her horns hits the rest.
@SantokiYama
@SantokiYama 4 ай бұрын
I love my parasite dog. He can hold lane better than snake feet lady.
@DisIngRaM
@DisIngRaM Жыл бұрын
Just from the thumbnail, I think she is never at "bad" position. She is not Great or Meta, but she does what you expect of her, she rarely fails me when I count on her to do the job (Kill a Bulky strong enemy)
@insanitydrive7710
@insanitydrive7710 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie Supah, I miss the funny skits
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
literally 0 incentive or reason to make them anymore. I'll just stick to ideas that I think are really funny
@insanitydrive7710
@insanitydrive7710 Жыл бұрын
You don’t think your own skits are funny?
@yautl1
@yautl1 Жыл бұрын
You're actually wrong at 4:16, module-less Eunectes *can* gain SP from other sources *but only* when she's blocking an enemy.
@terry5183
@terry5183 Жыл бұрын
Soon I will be able to skip both the boss mechanics AND the parasite unit mechanics. I will just "Texas/Alter" it, just like right now I just "Typewriter" it. Weird but I feel like with time I focus less on playing the game and more on getting units that will allow me to skip the gameplay part because Yostar just decides to put BS on top of BS on top of 3 health bars, death defying, defender 1 shotting and SP draining mechanics with having to save citizens and deal with cold or other stupid statuses as a cherry on top. ...................Nah, I'm probably overthinking it. Also. Your wife burnt my dinner when I used her S2 not too long ago. Thank you for that.
@stayfun2170
@stayfun2170 Жыл бұрын
Skadi > gummy
@gulag4767
@gulag4767 Жыл бұрын
I Just love defenders
@d0kid0ki2_
@d0kid0ki2_ Жыл бұрын
I got really distracted with the Monster Hunter you're playing in the background lmao, where did you get the mods from?
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
nexus
@thegoldexperience8340
@thegoldexperience8340 Жыл бұрын
Supah, blink twice if you are being held at gunpoint by Eunectes enjoyers
@mounteverest1025
@mounteverest1025 Жыл бұрын
God, your way of talking is annoyingly making me laugh out loud and want to slap your face. Never change Supah, never change
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
Thanks??
@Aureels
@Aureels Жыл бұрын
Eunectes make fans solid.... and she is a snake..... Coincidence? Skadi worthless? With the Abyssal Hunters being so cracked? With all the bonuses they share? oO Surtr become a real parasite unit when you make a Infinite Surtr Strategy..... but the kind of parasite you invite home and give willingly food.
@joshchet6821
@joshchet6821 Жыл бұрын
I hate that they need modules to fix operators. Modules should be an end game upgrade to make units better, not fix they're mistakes. Also, a unit like her should've been better, literally a Gundam in Arknights.
@karentensei2270
@karentensei2270 Жыл бұрын
Does doing event affect gacha result? Bcuz i got her after doing her while doing her event worse is at texalter banner(still no alter😭) and last draw bcuz idk where i can get more ora i just do her event to grind some now idk where to put her now maybe she will just join the lvl1 6stars until a need her😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨
@Khroniclas
@Khroniclas Жыл бұрын
Surtr, Mlynar, Silverash, Eyja, yet Eunectes is not allowed to have S3.
@t0uchme343
@t0uchme343 Жыл бұрын
I won't beat you up, I will just tell you that Zumama hot, Zumama segs.
@AVA-NIELS
@AVA-NIELS Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused, isn't the ''Can gain SP from external sources without blocking'' effect for module 2 only? Or also module 1?
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
...Also mod 1.
@IceQub3
@IceQub3 Жыл бұрын
So your character in monster hunter is basically roza
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH
@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH Жыл бұрын
It's Le Malin from Azur Lane
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