Talking About Gabbie Hanna - Frenemies # 39

[@summer.888]

One of the things you learn in therapy is your triggers aren’t other people’s responsibility and just because you’re in therapy doesn’t automatically justify shitty actions.

[@nate1462]

I NEED to know what kind of therapists she’s going to because literally this ^^

[@souurmoon]

You're absolutely right

[@Wooplot]

truth.

[@peterpumpkin7745]

Ok well she left the show because everyone was complaining so you can shut up now

[@J88-q9q]

@@peterpumpkin7745 no she left bc she’s embarrassed for continuously acting like an ass when she gets triggered

[@SuperRaedizzle]

i should have known how this would end when ethan said “let’s order pizza” in an uncle fester costume

[@genesis8284]

Deadly combo!!! And they were talking about death at the start..

[@lilithhr]

EXACTLY

[@inuyashaluvr]

pls it’s so cursed they have to stop doing this if frenemies ever comes back 😭

[@SuperRaedizzle]

something is about to bust 😭

[@a1yssaa]

i said this earlier bruhh

[@hotman718]

They should talk about financials behind this scenes. Trisha bringing that stuff up on the podcast is really unprofessional and insulting to the employees. Not to mention uncomfortable to watch. Just discuss that stuff off camera and in private.

[@mnkpepper]

true, wrong moment but she wasn’t entirely wrong, just terrible timing and delivery.

[@AngelxBabyxoxo]

I agree financials for their businesses should be discussed behind the scenes but are we forgetting Ethan decided to question percentages out of nowhere when Trisha was just trying to celebrate their skincare collab…. bc that’s where my discomfort started in the episode and then it just got worse from there unfortunately

[@carlyalberti7826]

YUP!!

[@smileytrashbag6484]

forreals

[@christinatodd8344]

@@mnkpepper right, like some of the stuff she was bring up - it made sense why she was wanting to know some answers or talk through it more. Obviously, I think what happened is she let her emotions get the best of her and started lashing out. Ethan was clearly uncomfortable as well talking about the finances too but open to being up front with her.

[@ali-bb5ej]

happy 1 year anniversary of this meltdown. rip frenemies

[@timothyo718]

Wow I just coincidentally decided to view this today. Was checking out some Gabbie drama videos.

[@jeskah8zy0u]

Back for the laughs . And honestly regardless of the toxicity and that Trish is nuts … bring back this podcast.

[@saniyahphillips1210]

jeskah8zy0u here bc on the newest one ethan said it’s been a year I couldn’t believe it

[@kirstentubes]

Cheers

[@cxynx]

you will always be remembered 😣

[@meganwilson2173]

This is exactly why dominos doesn’t deliver there....they were trying to save the podcast....

[@lauraanne5936]

Best comment.

[@ChismosaPrincesa]

LMAO TRU

[@damedrops5138]

Moses probably got the full Trisha wrath feel bad for that guy, I could see issues with that relationship from the beginning

[@jonezytown]

even the restrictions of the domino's delivery service area couldn't save this podcast lol

[@SophiaNormantas.]

😂😂😂

[@re_i_gn]

All the negativity aside, it's hilarious how the worst arguments always happen when Ethan has the most outrageous costumes.

[@neville2308]

And when they order pizza lol

[@re_i_gn]

@@neville2308 There's no such thing as a coincidence.

[@juliepedrazzi5680]

It's almost like she wants to target him when he looks less attractive

[@madisoneeet8064]

Was thinking the same! 😂

[@mariallama07]

THATS SO TRUE LOL

[@neonindigenous3095]

Ethan doing the ads by himself is like mom and dad fought at the dinner table and he’s trying to make it right for the kids. 🥺😂

[@leniseomeasoo6315]

😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂 so flipping SAD

[@neonindigenous3095]

@@leniseomeasoo6315 Lenny!!! Lmaoo yesss!!

[@hannahsmith6601]

🤣

[@fujoera]

He looks so sad :(

[@lestatsluv317]

"Mommy just had to excuse herself for a moment... she's not feeling well tonight. She made a mean lasagna for us, though. Dig in!" 😂 😂😂

[@noodlepoodlegirl]

Begins with friends, ends with enemies. A true forshadowing.

[@trashcollector6184]

Bravo Vince

[@drdoofenshmirtz5282]

enemies --> friends --> enemies

[@HowdyFL]

Watching this podcast is like being at your friends house when you were a kid and their parents started arguing in front of you.

[@MulderItsMe714]

This

[@Ecstract]

Spot on

[@mementomori1251]

100%

[@bearstudio9521]

Yup.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Wow that’s scarily accurate

[@rachellewis7822]

Having Trisha as more than a Co-Host would not be possible. Yes H3 have their own crew not only because it’s their show but because they’re CONSISTENT. Trisha has already walked out of the show 3 times. It would not be fair to hire hard working people and have their livelihoods at risk for how she feels on a given day. That’s not how you handle a business.

[@laurabirchardmorganrog]

such a good point

[@helengriffiths5235]

Overlooked point!

[@thedoc8338]

Such a good point!!

[@StuckAtHome-oo5rg]

Facts. She is a child.

[@jaker.503]

I was thinking the same exact thing!

[@DynamiteProd]

I hate the term “gaslighting” is now part of the common lexicon. Most people use the term and have no idea what it actually means.

[@A2Z83]

gaslighting happens a surprising ammount though and most people havent had the word for it until now

[@brandyc9645]

I agree. As someone who has actually been emotionally manipulated this way, I literally felt mentally tortured. Like my ex would hit me and then try to convince my I was crazy and that this didn't happen.

[@dannyt7269]

But she goes to zoom therapy 4x a week! She knows what it means…

[@Meli_monster]

Me. I don't know what gaslighting is. Everytime I hear it I don't understand it. I looked up the Google definition but I still kinda get it confused.

[@lahoop4865]

She is not using the term correctly

[@mikef55]

Imagine being so filled with rage & you turn round to see Ethan's googly eyes with uncle fester make-up and a wig 😭

[@ThriftShopTunes]

One person who deserves an apology is Zach. Ethan gave him so much shit for believing in curses only to now have his own pizza curse

[@goldeelocz]

Yes!

[@blairg8171]

Omens are real

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Yes

[@imghost3032]

Shit you right

[@megahealey2972]

No more pizzas!!

[@user.Icarus]

Dressed up as Uncle Fester AND ordered pizza, Ethan should've seen this coming.

[@victoria1700]

LOL

[@knoelle1357]

Also Mercury is retrograde, things are going crazy.

[@elijahslattensmusic6909]

@@knoelle1357 planet alignments is pseudo science

[@Official_KC]

At this point I feel like Uncle Fester is some weird emotional trigger for her. It's really strange. I'm not even making a joke here

[@bruhbun]

I just made the same comment! Like WTF why temp fate?!

[@gioovannabp]

What not to do: -Talk about Gabbie Hanna -Ask someone to get Domino's -Ethan dressing up as Uncle Fester -Also talking about business/money on air

[@ashensmashin]

💀

[@gioovannabp]

@@ashensmashin it's the doom of this show

[@sofiac5119]

yeees the doomed combination

[@starrrxxxgazerrr]

Or talk about money on air!

[@gioovannabp]

@@sofiac5119 They always joke about it but not on this one... Dan tried to stop the pizza even!

[@amna6024]

I rewatch Frenemies every few months like it's friends lol.

[@canadiancoffee]

same!

[@yasmin2543]

same🤞🏼

[@vannishpegasus3094]

I'm watching this series for the first time

[@xxxcrazyducksxxx]

You’re not alone haha

[@jerusalem027]

Same fam

[@relaxingwhitenoisevideos9967]

ethan reading the ad reads alone is heartbreaking, he tried his best to make the ad read fun and entertaining even tho he is so stressed inside :(

[@trvpvngel]

Right like it’s not even that deep and he probably doesn’t even care but it’s just so sad 😭😢

[@lunakrajina7973]

it killed me inside watching him like that

[@relaxingwhitenoisevideos9967]

@@trvpvngel i think its deep specially on the business side, remember theyre making frenemies merch on teddyfresh. i mean they can still sell it but itll be not as exciting as them announcing and selling it. also they already built frenemies so good and have plans in the future of frenemies thats gonna be hard to just let go. they can still be family, but frenemies is such a good podcast. these things are all crushing down infront of ethan while doing ad reads :( he probably thinking how its gonna affect his personal relationship with trish and brother in law since they already built good friendship and family.

[@meganmitchell3886]

Where’s the ad reads?

[@JLM498]

That’s show biz unfortunately ☹️

[@karlabruciaga9900]

Not them ordering pizza again and this show possibly ending... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COINCIDENCE

[@callistoarmy5576]

Friends ❣️ Because I'm not famous like other singers that's why no one see my music videos. Please see once and then decide ❣️

[@bohemianprince7944]

I say they never show their faces here again.

[@coconutmaul]

HOW DOES EVERYONE KNOW WHA HAPPENED! It's only been up for like 10 mins :(

[@yoshi-gy7sw]

@@coconutmaul members only get it the day it was filmed

[@nataliamunoz3358]

@@coconutmaul trishas channel. she explained

[@aaaalexp]

I feel like I can’t even enjoy the start of this podcast because I know what’s coming 😢

[@UglyStrawberries]

Same I had to skip to the end.

[@oscarthegodyt6168]

I regret looking at the comments now 😞

[@sarahmelanson5282]

Same

[@CesarHernandez-lm9rr]

I felt the same way, I started getting nervous the farther along I got in the episode

[@emmamooney3820]

@@UglyStrawberries do you have a time stamp?

[@PoisonCreosote]

It's so weird to watch this in hindsight. I feel like all this blew up because trisha felt ugly that day and had to do her own makeup. It sounds bizarre, but if you look back at this video and the two huge blow ups before this, trisha mentions repeatedly that she feels ugly and jealous that ethan out done her on the costume department lol

[@proudtobeme92]

So true.

[@hannahlafave9916]

I can't believe I never noticed that before lol.

[@iCODE.]

It baffles me that, this is what y'all get out of the video 😂. It's like obviously she has every right to get triggered if she's getting attacked constantly, they were literally toying with Trisha and using her for content

[@Wastelander23]

There’s just a number of things that upset them that day I think. Especially the pregnancy announcement. Trisha’s the type of person that when they’re in a mood, EVERYBODY feels it.

[@Leah.M.]

So true. Watching Trish try to balance that huge hat over her wig, and it's probably hot in there. I'd be irritable too.

[@freya5703]

Frenemies rules: 1. Don’t order Pizza 2. Don’t dress as Uncle Fester I don’t make the rules 😐

[@kieraerra6222]

LMAOOO EXACTLY

[@brandonb69]

and don’t talk ab gabbie hannah^^

[@Bananajoe13763]

@@brandonb69 this should be a rule for everyone like let her not be relevant anymore 🥴

[@petrichorweather350]

Don't mention gabbie too

[@EathanSwift]

LMAFO IKR EVERY TIME ! 💀

[@jento8508]

Uh, Ethan and Hila’s pregnancy is not a recycled topic because their pregnancy isn’t just some other topic to gossip over. it’s real life time? they’re pregnant?

[@skywithguns4467]

It’s weird to treat your your friend’s pregnancy as recycled and boring content.

[@jento8508]

@@skywithguns4467 so weird.

[@StarFire4]

Pssst… it’s because Trish is jealous that another woman is getting attention. She wants to steal thunder from a pregnant woman. Pathetic.

[@i.i.iiii.i.i]

@@skywithguns4467 I mean they already had a kid at this point they are just recycling their genes 😆

[@robbiet4028]

I didn’t realize Ethan has a mistress named Hilda

[@haepisaus]

The ad read was the most awkward and sad thing ever, Ethan literally had to act excited and read the ads enthusiastically while he and his crew just got dissed with the uncle fester make up on

[@nuhitzz]

The way he had to read BOTH lines as well and tried to do her voice. So awkward.

[@LlamaDrama77]

Timestamp? 👀

[@jamieboy9351]

time stamp?

[@chubchub6787]

@@LlamaDrama77 32.45

[@chubchub6787]

@@jamieboy9351 ^^

[@Aceoffadenails]

I have BPD and the fear that people around me have to walk on eggshells is so huge, becoming aware of when I was making people feel that way was such a big motivation to get the help I really needed

[@gracemoseley6710]

As someone who experienced abuse from someone with BPD and very much had to walk on eggshells, thank you for being self aware and working on yourself

[@paytonsme]

I completely feel you. that’s awesome. Fortunately a lot of people with BPD go through that character growth. It’s upsetting that extreme outliers like Trisha become the public perception

[@kayy8512]

Trisha came in with a bad attitude, about how she was dressed, and how her makeup artist canceled. It was a tiking time bomb.

[@wholesomesimmer3719]

It was both of their faults let’s not pick and choose who to blame just cause u like one more

[@namelessdoes]

@@wholesomesimmer3719 what did ethan do though? He asked the crew if they wanted pizza and Trish went off

[@isabellethamm9772]

That is pathetic honestly

[@isabellethamm9772]

@@wholesomesimmer3719 Ethan did absolutely nothing wrong in my opinion

[@HelloNewMoon]

Yep. Trish was already in the manic state. You could tell. Had she stayed home Moses would gave gotten the brunt. It was going to happen

[@dailyangels2943]

I’ve always thought Dan and possibly even the other staff should be paid a little as talent too bc they contribute to the entertainment of the show. Dan’s laughs, commentaries, etc he’s not just the prop set up IT guy he’s actually a personality, despite not taking as much air time as Trish and Ethan

[@WoahhTeamJacob]

Same, i love Dan.

[@b00psn00t]

The crew gets paid very well.

[@a.b.9170]

Agreed, the crew contributes a lot to the tone and feel of the show; they have their own voices and their own personalities.

[@pewdavid3338]

Yup save Dan and the crew, they all big help

[@Bigchi3f]

Agreed I really wish Ethan had stood up for them during the argument.

[@gallopvaly123]

Maybe the domino’s pizza curse isn’t lifted after all

[@dieauferstehung]

nah trisha is just evil

[@cjsalazar7250]

@@dieauferstehung tell me you don't know watch Trisha without telling me you don't watch Trisha

[@dieauferstehung]

@@p88d7 narcissism is pretty evil its egoism and egocentrism and pride combined. all evil traits

[@vVAstrAVv]

@@dieauferstehung bad traits arent evil. Just bad. They make worse people. But shes no rapist or something. You dont have to over blow something to justify your dislike.... To others anyways

[@vVAstrAVv]

@@p88d7 idk what youd call it. But i agree with your point

[@AmayaHudson]

This was my first time watching Frienemies completely through, I have 20 minutes left. Being at this part and knowing this is the end is like watching moments before a disaster strikes. My anxiety is so high right now!

[@rileycavanaugh6889]

That’s crazy bc that’s literally what I’m doing right now

[@isislee919]

@@rileycavanaugh6889same

[@Queendominiquee]

I love that so many of us still watch these episodes

[@lucilandry6391]

Me too. I don’t want to finish.

[@NataliePastina-jz6ky]

I watched but I forgot some of the episodes. What was the episode where T was literally screaming about the crew specifically ab and Sam or Olivia being hired instead of her sister. Please let me know what ep!

[@KristysEdits]

EVERY TIME Ethan dresses up as Uncle Fester, something bad happens HAHAH

[@lukecollinson4327]

And eating pizza

[@graceslittlefilms9358]

Curse of the dominoes

[@Alpha_omega_102]

ManiFESTERing bad energy!

[@emilygonzalez534]

Wait! Woah! You’re right lol

[@rachealfaucher4520]

omgggg 😱

[@bodeybreaks9342]

They should just start taking breaks whenever they're not feeling right.

[@J88-q9q]

The thing is no one know when she “isn’t feeling right” she assures she’s fine and not upset and blah blah then completely lashes out it’s so random

[@porteroffinland]

Yes yes yes

[@shmell918]

@Dobie she is extremely open about how much therapy she does, don’t be a dick

[@golden__]

Or maybe she should control herself like an adult... shes 33 not a toddler.

[@SparkleTheater]

@Dobie learn to spell it first

[@ambers1400]

Imagine being the employees and sitting there listening to someone who makes ten times more than you (on this alone) say that production doesn't need 5%

[@ambers1400]

And the employees do not make 5% that is to cover over all cost of production, so truly out of touch and comes across as greedy to me.

[@leece_6702]

And Ethan even said there too, that it doesn't even cover the costs

[@NathanVierke]

damn true

[@kwangleason3222]

She is the most selfish and greedy person Ive ever seen

[@merlinho0t]

There will never be another podcast like this one. It was the only podcast i’ve ever listened to and was excited for every week.

[@imenkhelil3218]

So Ethan is recycling ideas when he talks about Keemstar and Hila’s pregnancy but Trisha can bring up David and Jason all the time?

[@Kacefacexoxoxo]

THIS

[@ceimunique]

Literally

[@stellarcompanion]

Zach needs to drop a few Keem "HYPOCRITE" soundbites

[@shey9113]

Especially since she makes videos and tik toks about it. It’s literally the same concept

[@Sara-gc2zy]

EXACTLY

[@glippert07]

I'm willing to bet my entire yearly salary that Ethan spends WAY more than 5% on producing this show. He's got like 10 employees dedicating a good portion of their time and effort, he covers the equipment, the studio, and shooting and producing all of the bonus content. Trisha is getting a BANGING deal for 45% of the earnings and 50% of the sponsors.

[@stevenmom58]

And 50% OF THE MEMBERS FEE! Like whattt?? Not even 1/3, she pushed for FIFTY. that's outlandish. She's only 1/3 of this podcast but she thinks deserves a half, like she "made" H3. Her greed is insane. Trisha is a straight up diva, no wonder no one stays working with her for long and personal relationships don't seem to last long either. Jeez after this, i wouldn't be surprised if ANY company is hesitant to work with her again. Especially something like a reality tv or talk show.

[@watchonjar]

@@stevenmom58 "Especially something like a reality tv or talk show. " I feel like these where gone a long time ago.

[@fantasticcat9539]

@@watchonjar you’re watching a talk show though????

[@Justbreezintoday]

@@stevenmom58 well said!

[@watchonjar]

@@fantasticcat9539 I meant on tv

[@mathieumarlaire]

"Having mental health issues is not an excuse to act like an asshole" -Trisha Paytas like 2 episodes ago

[@CelineParky]

So ironic isn't it

[@lpycb42]

It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason though. Just because you act like an asshole, because you have mental issues it doesn’t mean you don’t get to be called out or you don’t get to suffer the consequences.

[@wineinwinter]

They didn't act like an asshole

[@CelineParky]

@@wineinwinter Bet. They literally called Ethan jewy. They just lie for clout.

[@garigarigar6913]

@@CelineParky wow so bad. It was a joke he called her crazy all the time and said she shouldn't have children... He's much worse

[@spilledsalt]

It’s insane how in literally less than 10 minutes she went from having a great time with Ethan to throwing away one of the best friendships she’s ever had.

[@coleeatz2066]

That's BPD for ya

[@lilithjade4363]

it is, but bpd is also like that sometimes.

[@mallory7783]

Its so sad because I LOVE these episodes so much

[@samd2862]

@@frank6842 💀 ??

[@ifohvii7914]

Don’t say that it clearly wasn’t she had multiple fights with him over serious things and yet he still chase after and create more fights so he could get views she started and kept the popularity so

[@satinepetit2512]

i know this is so incredibly frustrating for everyone involved (including Trisha) but props to Ethan for never yelling or getting super aggressive

[@carolpetra1396]

I really admire how he handles these situations

[@linnarlobe4939]

Right?! I would start yelling 10 seconds in lol

[@brandymariee]

It's annoying that Ethan took her criticism of recycling material and he took it and said "You're right, let's work on that" and then she keeps arguing.

[@onwednesdayswewearpink2761]

she was raw emotion at the time. I think they will make up

[@crakplug8292]

@@onwednesdayswewearpink2761 have you seen all the discord ss and trisha tweeting priv convos between her and ethan??

[@axgiebby]

@@crakplug8292 wait wait

[@imjustapancake3188]

@@crakplug8292 what the fuuuuuck

[@soledadv4271]

@@crakplug8292 where can u find them ??

[@katelyndonais3623]

not everyone that watches frenemies watches H3, so it was still a pregnancy announcement for ethan… and it’s exciting idk why she can’t just let them be happy and share that

[@katiebear9477]

The way Ethan supports her, they should have the next nines months titles of frenemies Ethan and hila pregnancy. That’s the least a best friend could do when your BFF is growing a beautiful family. They could waste a whole year talking about it and she should be happy and support no matter what

[@feckingloser]

Idk it was a little icky to me as he knows how much she struggles to get pregnant. When I saw it my immediate thought was that Trisha was pregnant because Ethan & Hila had already announced it in the previous ep.

[@minnichud]

@@feckingloser at what point is he not allowed to be excited because of her? They’ve had to go to fertility clinic, and Trisha literally said she doesn’t want to go to the clinic. I mean why does everyone have to walk on eggshells but her?

[@shayb8315]

Right! I was excited to hear them talk about it together

[@jesskelfer8861]

She was jealous about the babies cuz she wants one and can’t have one. She can’t break up with other people she said that so I think she couldn’t handle it unfortunately.

[@SergioGFishing]

Almost a year later and tbh, I do miss the show a lot. I truly wish it would have worked out differently. I miss this duo so much

[@crn1318]

same, a year later, still watch sometimes. i miss it, i really wish trisha would’ve just apologized and seriously worked on her issues. it’s unfortunate, they’re such a sibling vibe and it’s great

[@sometimessmiley9840]

Same, there will never be a more entertaining duo

[@thesaltypineapple7663]

Trisha is too problematic. I like her, but she has a lot of behavior issues that would not benefit Ethan

[@belle8732]

it's really sad thinking about moses as well. i wish everyone was healthier and things went differently. i hope relationships are mended in the future

[@imjustapancake3188]

Shoutout to the H3 crew, they’re a huge part of both podcasts. I love hearing their silly sound bites and laughter in the background. They have a certain charm to them, and thank you to the crew for making these podcasts sparkle even more. They really add a comedic swing that’s needed along Ethans side. Ethan and the crew all work together incredibly well, and they’re practically family. Thank you for doing such diligent, consistent, comedic work. You brighten many, many people’s days and lives. Never forget how much we appreciate y’all

[@Kaylamity_slays]

And they 100% deserve the 5% cut of frenemies!

[@Lee-fw9mr]

As an add-on ---- Trish is upset that you guys just hired a pretty, young girl. The same girl who put the Q&A segment together. That's why Trish was complaining about 1) the Q&A segment as stupid and lazy. 2) having a say in hiring from now on, and 3) she was critizing her own appearance a lot at the start of the podcast. Trish is upset that another beautiful girl has joined this Team, interacting with all the guys. It's nothing to do with you guys (Ethan, Hila, crew, babies #1-4).

[@Schmacksz]

@@Kaylamity_slays she didn’t say they didn’t idiot you can’t comprehend she meant she said cause they take the 5% she thought she could have kind of a say

[@jakekovitz3358]

ian pls stand up

[@blancmarquis2269]

There 3 not 2.

[@lindsay_rcs6550]

Trisha: "I'm not mad, I'm frustrated" Ethan: "I see you're frustrated" Trisha: "I never said I'm frustrated"

[@moogiejoogie3773]

Then Trisha accuses Ethan of gaslighting her, right after she gaslit him saying “I never said I’m frustrated.” She is just too much. Maybe ethan should just find a new co host at this point

[@darkstarmkv]

She literally says she's not mad but then goes into detail about how much the production costs bother her. She's annoying to deal with and seems like she wants to be the entire personality of the show. Ethan should find a new co host instead of dealing with her drama every 1-2 months.

[@Tamra_Bambam]

She’s insufferable and impossible to deal with...in any close relationship. Hence why she has no friends and ruins relationships. Both Ethan and Moses are far more patient then 90% of people would be..but they’re simps so 🤷🏻‍♀️ to each their own. Sounds mean but...Trisha will more than likely be alone in the end. And poor Moses will have every one of their intimate conversations (and God knows what else) blasted through the internet. I can’t feel too sorry for anyone who involves themselves with her though. Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.

[@Filmwithpurpose]

😂🤣

[@anayaadams563]

She can be mad about something & not be mad in the moment she brings it up, you can tell by her demeanor she really doesn’t care .

[@PettingPink03]

i hate that trish was so bothered by him wanting to rehash topics with her that he has already covered on h3. i personally don’t watch h3, i’m only here for frenemies. so hearing him cover those hot topics and including trish in them is entertaining for me because i never heard them on h3 to begin with. i guess that could be annoying for someone who watches both but idk what the big deal is about ethan trying to include trish in certain topics

[@Marfmellow88]

She is very insecure, jealous and has low self esteem. Trisha isn’t a bad person but she needs real therapy to know how to interact with people appropriately

[@Zahra-qt5hb]

i think the problem for trish was they thought that frenemies was separate. like totally diff from h3, and they watch all the h3 podcasts so didn't get why they were trying to talk about the same things all over again (keemstar etc) on frenemies? About the pregnancy thing: in the ep everything seems fine, trisha obvs wants to be happy for ethan and hila and they talk about it; its all good. But, even I don't get why they titled the whole podcast "pregnancy announcement". esp when she was so obviously excited about pride month and they already have multiple vids on their channel titled around the pregnancy. idk

[@gemmamoody7823]

I watch normal like off the rails and the live on Friday but the way things are discussed with Trisha is so different it never feels like repetitive

[@Marfmellow88]

@@Zahra-qt5hb yeah. They need to have preproduction meetings all together to discuss topics and costumes and themes...it does come across that ethan runs the show and trisha never knows what to expect. There is very poor communication between the two of them which is what always killed the show...

[@mwmulv]

I watch both and don't hardly notice. It's a different conversation.

[@yellowtents]

watching this back, trish was clearly manic on this day. She is so on edge and talking so faster than normal

[@bettyhe601]

The feeling when u are super anxious and you feel defensive most of the time. It’s definitely toxic and I think Trisha matured more from this past year

[@dramaticScar]

@@bettyhe601 wow... people say she does that every year

[@soren5312]

I'm watching it again, this is my read; Trish felt ugly, her makeup artist canceled and she had to do her own. Now she's feeling inferior to Ethans costume, already bad vibes. The nail in the coffin is Sam being here. Trish is clearly a girl who doesn't have girlfriends because of her deep insecurities and boy did they come out here. A thinner, prettier girl who people are paying attention to? Trish is storming out.

[@chelskay1581]

@@soren5312 idk if u watched the whole thing but they really end in a fight abt money ;(

[@marensophiebbjrn5294]

That's not what mania is. You guys have watered down that term so insanely. She has BPD, they don't experience manias. She has mood swings and can feel euphoric, but this is not what mania looks like. Educate yourself

[@joshuashapiro]

Knowing that a fight is about to break out is giving me SO much anxiety.

[@elliekinzz1]

Same, I skipped to the part straight away just to get it over with 😭💀 the anticipation was making me anxious af

[@duckie4655]

Same here, just spent awhile on the reddit reading up on the absolute dumpster fire ahead.

[@tylerbenjamin328]

Yeeesss.... I have to skip to the fight first and ill watch the other stuff later.

[@marlimarlirni]

Right same. I am like any minute now

[@caseymariedaniels6941]

I am only at 33 minutes and I am not skipping and my anxiety is through the roof!!!!!! So sad she has to act like this when doing so well

[@afm398]

I will never understand how she stuck by Shane for so long despite everything he did to her but she gives up on Ethan so easily

[@peacethrumuzic]

I think because she was a fan of Shane Dawson first she stuck by him for so long.

[@Mrlaolcj]

@Ayah Malouhi Exactly what I think!!!

[@yoshiontheloose]

Because Shane does baby talk/sugar coating and Ethan does the real talk.

[@dulapeep1972]

they’re still going to be family lmao just because she wants to step down from the show doesn’t mean she’s kicking ethan out of her life completely

[@yusraturkmen9896]

Thissss

[@naomi7826]

My heart broke when she said that she didn't like Ethan and the crew recycling content and when she talked about the pregnancy and Ethan sat there in silence :(

[@sophiag317]

what timestamp is this? i feel like i missed that completely

[@naomi7826]

@@sophiag317 1:31:20

[@mckenzie7904]

he looked so sad

[@mckenzie7904]

imagine being excited about something and having your “best friend” shut it down and not care

[@naomi7826]

@@mckenzie7904 Exactly. He always hypes her up and this is what he gets in return :(

[@1in6win]

This was my 9/11

[@SydneyMayzie]

This comment is outta pocket lol

[@lizmueller6971]

real

[@emilyjohnzon]

LMFAOOO

[@tlmjjs1339]

I actually genuinely enjoy the topics that are discussed especially when they’re recycled onto frenemies because the extra commentary including trishas input are entertaining! I think people that watch all 3 episodes that H3 put out every week like myself, can expect to hear topics discussed over a few episodes sometimes but it’s not an issue to me AND FOR THE RECORD: I was actually excited for the new advice segment :( dope idea!

[@oliviaparkinson3416]

Yeah, whenever they talk about stuff on off the rails/after dark I want them to talk about it on frenemies too so we can get trishas take.

[@mianoel360]

literally

[@reneehelda4089]

1000% agree

[@alexie101010]

Also, can we mention that some people don't watch the regular H3 episodes? I watch all 3 every week, but I enjoy them all and sometimes on after dark I WISH I could hear Trisha's opinion on certain topics they never bring to Frenemies.

[@tlmjjs1339]

@@alexie101010 yeah totally!!

[@Kelly99844]

Ethan was trying so hard to deescalate the situation and Trish would NOT stop.

[@OliBolivia]

No he wasn’t moving on about her being frustrated. He wanted content honestly by the looks of it.

[@IgorGoncallves]

@@OliBolivia she can’t have a conversation...

[@McQueen713]

@@OliBolivia literally Trisha is clearly upset and she said “I’m just frustrated ….” And he says so why are u frustrated? And she was like IM NOT WTF ??????? How does that make sense

[@OliBolivia]

@@McQueen713 Yes but honestly it seemed to me like he wouldn’t let her frustration go, he wanted to be right no matter what. She was just getting more and more triggered and everyone could see that so why not stop. And even if she was frustrated to begin with I don’t see Ethan would keep talking when she is frustrated instead of waiting for a better opportunity, it’s not productive and I think Ethan knows this. That’s my take tho.

[@OliBolivia]

@Funk Boii yes but honestly it seemed to me like he wouldn’t let her frustration go, he wanted to be right no matter what. She was just getting more and more triggered and everyone could see that so why not stop. And even if she was frustrated to begin with I don’t see Ethan would keep talking when she is frustrated instead of waiting for a better opportunity, it’s not productive and I think Ethan knows this. That’s my take tho. She was negative but Ethan didn’t make it any better tbh.

[@tylerdray1663]

The whole pregnancy recycle mention made me uncomfortable. Of course they’re going to talk about it more than once and with Trisha, they were supposed to be close friends.

[@fairlyenjoyable]

Right? God forbid they're overly excited about having a baby, especially after all they've been through. That was so cruel of Trisha to say.

[@skywithguns4467]

And Trisha accused them of being bad parents in the past. Frenemies is a fun time, but Trisha has to always to make everything upsetting and stressful for no reason. I get she has mental health issues, but she said herself it’s no excuse to be an asshole.

[@jaeceee]

There’s definitely some envy there because what does she expect!? They are having twins and they are thriving ofc they are constantly going to talk about it

[@andronikisa]

@@fairlyenjoyable right wtf it's like she's jealous...also, i don't fuckin get how she could be mad about the money? if i was in her position, with new friends like that, money would be the last thing on my mind!!! so fuckin greedy... it's sad :(

[@laue1221]

whats the time stamp for this? i cant watch the whole podcast it makes me cringe so bad

[@anastasiaivanova6694]

Trisha came to this show in a bad mood because she was not feeling cute. And she blew one of the best gigs she had in years and a person who was "trying" with her. Crazy

[@sparklesparkle4851]

She’s slaying on Just Trish now she’s okay

[@anastasiaivanova6694]

@@sparklesparkle4851 frenemies was legendary

[@theceech]

@@sparklesparkle4851 no way shes even making 10% of the money tho

[@tylerherrera2481]

She still gets checks from frenemies/Ethan

[@AmaniElm]

@@sparklesparkle4851I don’t even watch her podcast

[@apeace90]

Am I the only one who really has no idea what she’s talking about every time she says he goes on and on about Teddy Fresh every episode? He might mention it when he’s wearing it, and they talk about it together, but he never does like a full ass promo of Teddy Fresh.

[@michellefajardo6482]

Right! He only talks about it for like 5 minutes when a new launch is droppinh

[@alyssamariie88]

It’s because it’s not about her

[@pix3l_brat]

It's full on projection

[@jbarnes7148]

She was wildin'

[@mariavillegas9077]

Even in the other episode when she was mentioning her clothing and they played the music video and they went on for about a good 5 minutes about her new line she encouraged him to talk about Teddy fresh and all he did was just mention it was there and that was it

[@amvalen5641]

Shes so painfully insecure and damaged from bad friendships. She gets stable people in her life and self sabatoges.

[@ericarose9686]

I couldn’t agree more, I used to have these same tendencies and it’s so sad. Ethan is no doubt one of the most positive people in her life right now (she’s mentioned it many times before) , he’s been so patient and understanding with her and I feel like she can’t fully accept his friendship without involving self sabotage :(

[@joewarhurst4143]

Why we jumping to the conclusion Trisha is the one who had the "bad" friends taking vlogsquad out the equation (obviously) she could of always been as toxic without trauma or not!

[@movedbymusic1]

YES. As someone who used to do this myself because of MY mental illnesses, watching it happen from the outside looking in is so heartbreaking. You’re gonna have bad days and people are gonna trigger you. No one else is responsible for your triggers except yourself. She gets defensive and starts going off and she doesn’t know how to stop which is exactly what I used to do. I hope that when she’s in a better mental state that she can talk to Ethan calmly and clear headed to work it out and acknowledge that she was in the wrong here.

[@taylagallant7166]

it’s so sad honestly

[@presko]

impostor sus

[@leahmostyn3659]

First 5 seconds Ethan: 😀 'Hey its frenemies, we're back" Trisha: 'we're back, I get to kill you today" Talk about foreshadowing 😬

[@idkjshssbvVs]

LMAOOOOO this is true

[@DivyMoon]

But she hasn’t seen the movie...

[@idkjshssbvVs]

@@DivyMoon what movie

[@Rainaman-]

@@DivyMoon yeah that was the funniest bit. She just sums up the plot of her character and then goes to say she doesn't know that movie. Having seen their convo on Whatsapp, this just seems like some really bizare compulsive lying to make somone look worse than you and be a victim.

[@boscorner]

trisha gets extremely bored IMMEDIATELY when they talk about anything other than her, or drama that immediately effects her. thats why she doesnt like the fan advice segment

[@garlicsaucespill9482]

Yep, she wanted to talk about brokeback to seem more like an ally because it makes her relatable but she’s said multiple times she doesn’t understand pride and it’s obvious she sees gay people as jokes or tokens just like ethans Tourette’s. You can see her mood shift when he cuts her off during her broke back rant

[@slooftaroof]

Imagine how awkward the production team must have felt sitting in the room and watching this argument between ethan and trisha

[@zipciki]

yeah while slowly chewing the dominos pizza

[@missbieber1211]

Yeah I don’t get how nobody pitched in

[@Night-Shade.]

@@missbieber1211 cuz it's not their place to talk about it

[@missbieber1211]

@@Night-Shade. I get that but it just seems odd !

[@Night-Shade.]

@@missbieber1211 They could’ve made things worse so I understand why they kept silent.

[@ritariza2835]

Therapy is a wonderful thing, but i've started noticing that some people use terms they learn in therapy (e.g. "gaslighting") in a way that is TOO broad. Someone disagreeing in a reasonable situation is NOT gaslighting.

[@ritariza2835]

For instance, if someone DID cheat on you (a fact) but they act like YOU are crazy for being upset about cheating, THAT is gaslighting. But if two friends disagree about something they have different opinions about, that isn't gaslighting.

[@Ohhmeganx]

It doesn’t seem like she understands what gaslighting is

[@ritariza2835]

@@Ohhmeganx Exactly 😰 It can't be healthy for a person to think everyone is "gaslighting"/ab*sive" to them. It's gonna sabotage her relationships if she doesn't figure out the difference between a normal disagreement and ab*se.

[@dianaking1106]

Agreed. They also overuse it to a point that it can no longer be taken seriously even when it's contextually correct. It's so frustrating.

[@Angie-zk4ei]

Great comment. People throw the word 'gaslighting' like it's nothing. It is a manipulation tactic with the intent to make someone doubt reality and their own sanity. Ethan was NOT doing that at all.

[@tomatosoup2000]

As someone who’s been through emotional manipulation for almost my entire life, Trisha using the term “gaslighting” so ignorantly and incorrectly makes me really uncomfortable. She accuses everyone of “gaslighting” her when she’s called out for her immature behavior..

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

True, but, and I know this doesn't make it better, Trisha is far from the only person to do this. Personally, idk what gaslighting is because it's such an overused term! A lot of the time, I feel like people will use this term synonymously with "lying" because it sounds more powerful. I don't use that word because I know it's both overused and misused, but people who do may just be ... ignorant.

[@Hilo-gk3ix]

Thank you! This is it! Some people in these comments are even using the term gaslighting to say Trisha is turning around and gaslighting him. It’s like regardless of the argument and who was right or wrong there was no gaslighting occurring so please stop using the term for everything. 🤦‍♀️

[@AM-gt1yt]

@@Hilo-gk3ix no she did gaslight him tho. By saying she hated the costumes and didnt even know what movie they were from, it made him question his reality (literally what gaslighting is) where she had texted him earlier saying “thats my fav movie, love those costumes!!”

[@Hilo-gk3ix]

@Mari I’ve been in that situation many times as well and if you look through my replies to other comments you’ll see me defending Trisha on this point saying that I genuinely believe they weren’t upset until he kept picking at this issue that they were angry when they explained they weren’t several times. It is, however, not gaslighting as it doesn’t make someone question their sanity it just works to upset and frustrate you. Gaslighting is a much more serious form of manipulation than trying to invalidate someone’s feelings or telling them how they are feeling. So initially just throwing around the term gaslighting is watering down the true meaning of the word. Now when Ethan says they’re upset when they aren’t and then pushes them to the point where they become upset and were to say “see I told you you were mad from the beginning” then that moves towards gaslighting but it is still a little gray.

[@Hilo-gk3ix]

@Mari I didn’t say it was an abusive situation but that it was a more complex form of manipulation than just saying “You’re mad” “I’m not mad” “Well you’re angry or upset it’s ok to admit that” If that was the case everything would be gaslighting. In the end someone telling you you’re angry and you know you aren’t isn’t going to make you question your sanity or at least it shouldn’t. Again (I know you aren’t and I don’t expect you to because it’s a lot of random comments to look through) if you read my other replies you’ll see that regardless of the argument my stance is just on the term gaslighting. I’m aware that they both did something wrong so you don’t have to reply and tell me the “bottom line”.

[@Sarahsmokes777]

At this point idc if the show ever comes back. I just want them on good terms. I want their baby to be cousins and hangout. Wahhhh.

[@cthulhuhoops]

That's how I feel too. I hope for the sake of their family they've reached some type of cordial agreement, especially after the shit that happened with Colleen.

[@mikec6545]

Just finishing the saga for the very first time. All I want is them to all be family again!

[@theceech]

man y ppl have estranged cousins. theres SA allegations among other things. teach your kids its ok to not have toxicity in your life regardless if theres a blood relation

[@galacticyolo]

it’s so uncomfortable hearing Trisha complain about how she doesn’t know who the character is and didn’t wanna do this when the messages were posted on Twitter and she literally said “omg yesss my favorite movie. let’s do it”…..

[@laurenjones9307]

You can see the confusion on Ethan's face too. It's really hard to watch😥

[@naomir8158]

I literally know it’s so sad she gaslights him so much that he just agrees with her to keep her from getting mad

[@hazelenglish9340]

At what time in the vid does that happen?

[@richard892]

@@hazelenglish9340 very end of the video

[@galacticyolo]

@@hazelenglish9340 it doesn’t happen in the video. the messages were tweeted on twitter by ethan and then deleted. some ppl screen shot them so if you look you can find them

[@elizabethbentley2582]

Recipe for disaster: -Trisha in a bad mood -Uncle fester cosplay -Dominoes pizza -Discussing trishas potential stalker

[@AllthingsHatala]

I don’t know what they were thinking 🤣

[@biteerrkatherine]

This was going to be a disaster from the start, they are never allowed to eat pizza together again.

[@poonpunisher1]

@@biteerrkatherine or be in costume

[@angelinavargas4035]

This! Legit feel like gabbie triggered such a manic episode for trish and they lashing out at the wrong person

[@Jessicabee9100]

@@angelinavargas4035 no I think Trisha was being annoying from the start. They mentioned they were on their period and she was already complaining about their costumes from the start and started bringing up “gaslighting” for like no reason 🤣 Trisha should just not come and cancel Frenemies whenever she’s in a bad mood cuz she’s beyond bitchy and rude

[@laurareeve-stuckey6064]

When Trish says "I've got hate in my heart today" at the start, it shows that the fight at the end was based on her own issues, not something Ethan is doing. I truly hope she realises she went in with a bad mind frame and that set the tone for everything to come, so she can't play the victim later on when she's constantly throwing jabs.

[@paytonvandy8140]

@@raes7184 there’s a difference between having a bad day and completely flying off the handle at someone. Trish should have removed herself sooner or asked to take a break instead of lashing out. Ethan is not her keeper.

[@eceacar1741]

@@raes7184 Go talk to a therapist if you want you feelings recognized 24/7. In daily interactions, this isn't what mentally ill people need.

[@catreenel]

​@@raes7184 omg he's not her fucking therapist, he's her friend and he's also trying to produce an entertaining show. he shouldn't have to walk on egg shells, he has literally already been so careful and nice with her, standing up for her on everything. but he has a right to defend himself and tell her when something bothers him, just like she always does. and "was pretty rude the whole show" ? bruh literally where

[@asne9350]

Not me rewatching this series for the 3rd time, dissecting it and trying to pinpoint the exact moments everything went wrong

[@iCODE.]

Trisha ate him up

[@BecomingSilhouettes]

Literally same lmao. 5am and still rewatching

[@junebug-4213]

It was when Ethan started interrupting her when Trisha was talking about Brokeback Mountain.

[@elijahjordan778]

Trisha interrupts him all through out the video, she’s just really dramatic and blames everything on her mental health. Like gabby Hannah

[@stasiyasworld]

imo she got irritated by ethan because he wasn’t paying attention to trisha talking about something she really cares about, a movie about lgbt rights and it all went downhill from there

[@ennagy]

Ethan doing the ads by himself is the saddest thing I've seen in a while

[@luniette]

Every time they fight Ethan looks ridiculous and they have pizza lmao...

[@alexalvis98]

The pizza curse

[@AutumnRenee]

There’s no such thing as a coincidence ;)

[@ekrak0ski87]

It’s always a bad omen💀

[@gingerosepixley7270]

@@AutumnRenee HA

[@katiiemorton]

LMAO

[@J_neila]

They shouldve known dressing up as uncle fester and eating pizza would end in a fight...

[@Idkdontaskok]

😹😹

[@elizabethgregory]

Exactly

[@wormswithteeth]

*There's no such thing as a coincidence*

[@mikaylamozo4075]

BRO IT CAME OUT LIKE 5 MINUTES AGO HOW YOU WATCH THE WHOLE THING IM CONFUSED

[@J_neila]

@@wormswithteeth LITERALLY

[@0aka567]

Watching this again, there are so many little red flags predicting Trisha’s blow up: her saying that she’s in in a bad mood that day, feeling ugly because she had to do her own makeup, hating/not knowing the reference to her costume, Ethan talking over her and making immature sexual jokes about TrishSkin, talking about Gabbie which is clearly super triggering for her, possibly also feeling jealous over Ethan and Hila’s pregnancy…

[@0dayyy]

and also the fact she’s talking soo fast compared to the other episodes of the podcast, i think she was manic in this ep

[@montanaw7]

Omg currently rewatching and I noticed all the same things!! You’re spot on.

[@tiffanymolina1285]

She knew the reference, check the original text. She’s also hiding where she says it’s one of her favorite movies. Compare her showing it here to the whole chat. I think she denied it cause she was feeling insecure

[@saturnsings3471]

and the biggest one of all…. the pizza.

[@serenjuls7]

yes i was thinking the exact same thing you can slowly see her getting more and more triggered

[@cskillzkchitt]

Funny how she cares about “recycling titles” when Hila is pregnant but she didn’t gaf when they talked about David dobrik for a month straight. Get real 😒

[@cskillzkchitt]

@@stephaniestuff absolutely 🥴

[@KatieTassell]

1 because David heavily involved her, 2 because she's jealous hila is pregnant (understandable, but she could handle it with grace)z

[@gowtham12349]

@@KatieTassell bro David literally cut her off to not involve her. She was obsessed with Jason, when he broke up she couldn’t take it

[@allisonmiller3669]

@@gowtham12349 exactly!! She was waiting on a chance to pounce on him she was so mad they cut her off .

[@KatieTassell]

@@gowtham12349 that has nothing to do with what I've said though... I'm just saying when talking about David, it involved her. Not that David actually involved her in anything

[@hsmith44]

Trisha: “I’m not upset, but it’s frustrating” Ethan: ok so you’re frustrated... Trisha: I’m not frustrated!

[@marvinareas9843]

I know right !? Can someone clip this!

[@bubbasmith7312]

lol. yup. She just a wack.

[@strikeflow1]

Double like👍

[@maryannazurin2322]

I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out...

[@bruh666]

omg yes that bothered me so much

[@Ash-ms]

These conversations about production and money should be offline. It's bizarre, unprofessional, and clearly somewhat triggering for both of them. It no doubt makes the staff uncomfortable, as well.

[@bangitybangbabang]

You're so right, I did not need to see this conversation. I respect them trying to be open with the audience but talking about money is behind the scenes business. We don't need to know this.

[@alyssabakeberg7945]

They shouldn't have added this in. Viewers understand if something is personal you could give a brief explanation as to why it ended early and move on. It's pretty crappy of her to do this on the show but she asked for this to not be added in which is understandable.

[@Vickyt32]

They def shouldn’t have posted it :(

[@rabbitfnord]

She did it to corner Ethan on camera and in front of the crew knowing it would most likely end up on air and embarrass Ethan. 🗑

[@Ash-ms]

@@rabbitfnord I think she was having a narcissistic meltdown...probably instigated by being jealous of Hila's pregnancy. I don't think she was trying to embarrass him, as much as she just trying to get what she (selfishly) wanted.

[@asdfg1236395]

I’ve never fully watched this in it’s prime but I’ve been aware of the situation. The moment Ethan said “all you do is show up”, that is when stuff hit that fan 😬

[@trumanbadra8003]

sometimes the truth hurts

[@randompersonn4]

Uh no, stuff started going south when she was interrupted (God forbid somebody else speak)

[@pokelover02]

Nah, it was bad from the beginning. She was already having a rough day. It’s obvious she tried her hardest to put on a happy face even when he was making jokes about things she was serious about. It’s hard to keep the mask on for that long

[@effie3798]

Trish doesn’t understand what gaslighting is. She absolutely was gaslighting Ethan in this. Honestly, I can’t stand her when she gets triggered. She transforms into something evil.

[@Migzee]

It’s like you can see the switch go off

[@bink6778]

@Cunty McCunt this is the dumbest take. Being the “talent” doesn’t make you more important than anyone else, Trisha should be kissing their feet for letting her partake in this show in the first place. Her reputation was in the absolute gutter until she was on Frenemies for a while. She literally just shows up and takes 45% and has the nerve to complain ON AIR about not getting that extra 5% while bashing the work put into this show. If she has complaints she should have done the segment and spoke with them afterwards. Instead she just refuses to do segments that everyone else worked on right as the segment starts. That crap would get you fired almost anywhere else. We’re not talking about class-A talent here, she’s entirely replaceable.

[@killerxqueen9922]

@@bink6778 replaceable? Not really dude, she’s the only reason I watch H3 podcast again. Off the rails went wayyy off a year or two back and Trisha balances Ethan out

[@killerxqueen9922]

...usually

[@jessicahs5426]

does trisha realize that ethan talking about hilas pregnancy is not recycling content but rather him discussing his fucking life like what?!

[@averyl268]

But let her talk about Jason & David for episodes on end 😭 which I didn’t mind because I enjoyed watching it but cmon girl

[@martinumber1]

Recycled!!!!

[@abbyrose7477]

it’s sad that she just brushed it off that way. he’s literally so happy about the pregnancy and she’s calling it out as “recycled content”. sad.

[@charlescozart6417]

Her argument is that it was even used as the title for frenemies yes talk about the pregnancy but it shldnt be the title of their show its not h3 after dark it's frenemies

[@ninamaxwell4078]

Yea life≠content...it’s literally what is just happening currently like they talked about gabbie and their skin care line on their tik tok and now on the podcast..is that not recycled in their terms...its just what’s happening in their lives

[@kizzykizzington5144]

she needs a therapist who is actually going to tell her about herself instead of boosting her ego. She needs to learn its her problem if she gets so offended by the truth about things.

[@aaroneusjames2342]

I like when people tell me the shit about myself that triggers Trish.

[@CindyCya]

She would probably drop them

[@Maxarlie]

do you really think she’s going to pay someone to tell her what she doesn’t want to hear

[@megpatt1751]

she'd probably fire them as soon as they point out her bad habits in thinking lol

[@herlindajaimes7960]

@@Maxarlie bahaha

[@kater1960]

The “Pregnancy announcement, ‘cause I’m not pregnant.” Is Trisha’s jealous through and through

[@ecclecticsimmer]

She did have a right to be, jealousy is a normal emotion and she was having a hard time getting pregnant.

[@aidangriffin27]

Trisha was just making a point about how she doesn't like Ethan's clickbait and recycled content. It didn't even seem personal

[@sicatsz]

@@aidangriffin27I agree and even if she was upset, (I personally think she wasn’t but ended up getting upset at the end) him repeatedly telling her she is upset is triggering for her and I felt like he knew that :/. But no excuse for Trisha’s behavior.

[@golden__]

​@aidangriffin3345 it did seem personal bc he should be able to announce his wife's pregnancy on his podcast 💀 not everyone who watches Frenemies watches him and hilas other podcasts so how would the new fans know? Trisha just didn't want the title bc she was jealous she wasn't pregnant at the time.

[@pokelover02]

@@golden__ I’m new here and genuinely thought the previous video was announcing Trisha’s pregnancy. To learn that it was just clickbait after she’s been trying so hard to get pregnant is super messed up

[@DegreeZeroNG]

Let’s just remember that Trisha wanted to be an “independent contractor” and not a stakeholder in H3 when the Triller lawsuit came up. Only wants more ownership when it benefits her and no responsibility when things go wrong.

[@StarringMaja]

Sooo true! She never wants to be associated with any of the negative things but when it comes to having control and literally as much money as possible, she's all for that of course.

[@emilyward4388]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@emilyward4388]

@@StarringMaja yep. She wants to be popular and make as much money as possible.

[@NathansCosmos]

THIS

[@lifeofamakeupaddict777]

Totally!! She is consistently contradicting herself!

[@katep7818]

I feel like Trisha ALWAYS acts like her feelings are more valid or holds a higher priority than Ethans feelings. Trish- Ethan literally did not do anything. He has feelings too and you just attacked him over something that should’ve been discussed privately. Don’t end the show bc of this. Obviously if you are unhappy with pay, than you should be professional and discuss it off camera. Kinda disappointed that you made this all about you

[@brandywine49]

Exactly!

[@warmlettuce9317]

Yep

[@HereIamToBeNoticed]

Agreed. I’m sure she caught Ethan off guard. I feel so bad this all had to be public.

[@elronlushtail3666]

And Dr. Drew didn't help by validating her behaviour.

[@ashleydawn517]

The mentality of “I can’t control my triggers so everyone else needs to adjust” is a sign of complete immaturity.

[@DesertDweller1776]

Complete insanity…..

[@dugget5492]

Dude I don’t understand anything about the trigger thing because I donde live in the US. If Trisha is an example of that, it’s the most stupid thing on this world. And she needs a new therapist, she’s clearly wasting her money

[@ashleydawn517]

@@dugget5492 I am from Canada. I don’t understand her version of triggers, but I do have some myself. Basically, triggers are things that can cause you to have a specific intense emotion (usually related to mental health). It has since lost the severity in its meaning though because of people like this that misuse/ overuse it. For example, I was severely abused as a kid and have PTSD. If I hear someone say that person’s name I can go into a full on panic attack and cannot function adequately. People now tend to use it to say “I immediately feel…. when I experience…”.

[@dugget5492]

@@ashleydawn517 I’m from Venezuela. Thanks for the explanation. You’re right, that misuse takes away the seriousness. It’s becoming a kind of excuse

[@ashleydawn517]

@@dugget5492 I absolutely agree. It makes it difficult for a person that does face triggers to disclose them to people close to them too. It’s kind of like a person that wears glasses while driving saying they are blind and need a seeing eye dog.

[@gflsos5838]

Original Oppenheimer and Barbie

[@Moneyymitch926]

i cant defend trish on this... it makes me sad that she does the things she does. she lies and she gaslights just as much as she claims everyone does to her. its not cool and im sad to see trish this way :/

[@j4cki3.]

when they started the show she said she was already upset and its obvious talking about gabbie triggered something and she blacks out and gets defensive and then regrets it but i think shes burned the bridge at this point

[@nelliejaafar1027]

Extremely disappointed in Trisha’s reaction to the fan advice segment and the pregnancy announcement title. That was so incredibly self-involved, dismissive, and just plain mean. Like we get it, you like being the center of attention. Just own it at this point. Don’t make it about Ethan “gaslighting” you or unoriginal content - her intentions and predisposition to insecure, attention-seeking behavior is more than evident.

[@trinity6052]

time stamp ?

[@zee1990]

@@trinity6052 start at around 1:28:00

[@kokujosei]

@@trinity6052 roughly 1:29:17

[@Eli-vx6xv]

It especially sucks bc last episode she went on a rant abt Ryland not appreciating his fans and she goes and does the same thing. Super disappointing

[@trinity6052]

@@kokujosei thank you 🙏🏽

[@kudiyyy]

Crazy how Trisha can say Vape Nation is bad, the crew are trash, wikifeet is unfunny, their regular podcasts are boring, their parenting style is bad, all the name calling to ab, but no, she’s not rude at all. Ethan is rude one time, she has a meltdown and quits. That right there is the definition of a toxic relationship where someone lacks respect for the other and keeps crossing boundaries

[@destinym2802]

Let’s not forget that she is completely uneducated about Tourette’s and Ethan could never just be himself without her being like “are u ok?that was Tourette’s for sure” if Ethan tells her it wasn’t,she will argue and say it is even tho she isn’t the one with the condition and he’s asked her to stop assuming on multiple occasions and she hasn’t.

[@lukereyalp1942]

To be fair in regards to ethan as a person, he has gone down the shitter. He's a boring Internet person who is obsessed with frivolity. He's very insincere and I've been watching since the beginning. It was better when the crew were involved and the show was about memes. It changed when they both starting feeling guilty for being rich and going on tirades about people's behaviour when ethan himself used to bully the crew into doing things all in the name of the show. Other channels could have done exposes on him at certain times. Mo munney mo problums

[@kunpunko]

@@lukereyalp1942 um…

[@michelebergman4336]

@@lukereyalp1942 more like…Mo Medication 💊 Mo Problems !!! He’s being drugged by the LEXIPRO! It’s makes him ZOMBIE so he doesn’t have Anger anymore..but it makes him very monotone & as u say…Boring!! He wants to stop taking it but it’s not something u can just stop! It takes year to slowly taper n it’s horrible Withdrawels emotionally & physically so lots of people can’t stop? Ethan’s cool guy & he is fun to lesssn too but I think he could involve his crew more as they are all young & smart & contribute some interesting voices👍

[@CyndeLooWho]

@@lukereyalp1942 🙄 That’s not “being fair.” All you did was change the subject and attack Ethan for no reason. You don’t need to spend your time. He’s routinely being abused by Trisha, a woman who’s easily triggered and instantly becomes an irredeemable asshole.

[@goooot9311]

Trisha goes to therapy, learns psychology terms like “gaslighting, abuse, delusions, psychotic, etc.”. and then uses those terms to justify her nasty behavior and make her vapid arguments appear less hateful and more credible. Gabbie does the exact same thing, and that’s why the two of them get so triggered by each other; because they remind each other of themselves. It’s baffling how little self awareness they both have.

[@jymsc]

So true. Also seems to be that these apparent "therapists" must be advising them both to stay away from the very people they are - I bet Trisha is told how triggering people like Gabbie are and to avoid them, and Gabbie is told how triggering people like Trisha are and to avoid them, when the actual reality is, they're both toxic af and need to take responsibility for their own issues instead of projecting all the time. Which they're hardly going to do when they've obtained such success being so scummy.

[@rosietheservant7857]

Look up what it says about narcissists going to therapy. Talk therapy and some others do not work for narcissists. The narcs just learn how to mimic how they should act and use what they learn against others through manipulative tactics. It's sad for the people who the narcissists abuse.

[@penelopefray1769]

No one has said it better! 👏👏

[@5325bunny]

Bingo!!!!!!

[@heatheralaw777]

she doesn’t go to therapy i think she j doesn’t know what those words mean

[@Shuriken0]

"let's order pizza, but first let's run the ad reads" *cut to Ethan sitting alone*

[@Tifairy]

That was actually so sad seeing him read the ads alone 😓

[@ileGL]

omg. I didn't know this had happened cause I didn't read the comments and now I feel sad :/

[@mt-zf6xp]

They seriously need to quit ordering pizza. It's the common denominator

[@rosaalvarado8976]

😂😂😂

[@belleccino]

Yeah I had to rewind to understand what happened

[@agustdpr]

he’s literally EXCITED for having a baby and they are just shooting him down for bringing it up? wtf

[@agustdpr]

i just reached to the end of the episode and THE WAY they flipped it onto him, they are so narcissistic - THEY GET SO UPSET WHEN ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THEM? the podcast is called FRENEMIES PLURAL, it’s not frenemy

[@dudeanderson2401]

I think she wants one of the babies in addition to 50% of the membership. She would probably think that was fair.

[@agustdpr]

no LITERALLY and it’s so visible. trisha will be the aunt of the kid when they marry moses, so it’s like just be happy for your possible future niece or nephew’s arrival and love them like your own 😔

[@Almostallison]

I knew this would happen when I saw the “pregnancy” title. Trisha has really back communication and jealousy issues.

[@agustdpr]

@@dudeanderson2401 i can’t even. no but at least show HAPPINESS and COMPASSION for the babies and Hila am i right? why is Trisha just expecting this from them 😭 this ain’t build a baby workshop

[@Sektorfive]

Trisha forgot that in episode 1 she invested absolutely nothing in frenemies while ethan gave 20000 dollars into it just so that it can start + employees that need to get payed. Ethan didnt even know that they would get this much success so honestly he should get an even bigger cut than trisha but hes very generous to give her 45%

[@alexisrae2020]

POV you're still coming back to this episode in 2022 🥲

[@itsyaboi921]

I feel bad for people with BPD but when Ethan said “I shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells” I felt that

[@ena_ina]

yeah i have bpd and its tough honestly hoping other ppl dont feel the same way around me

[@emmajenkins4732]

@@ena_ina the fact that you are aware of it shows that people probably don't feel the need to be extra cautious around you. Its so important to be conscious and self aware. You can't help having a mental illness but you can help how you manage it. I'm sure you are doing great :)

[@cullenshaver106]

@@emmajenkins4732 Trisha is aware of it just like a lot of ppl with BPD but dealing with emotional situations are not easy to handle and it’s common to explode and become very destructive. She can recognize what’s happening and why she’s reacting the way she is but that doesn’t mean she has full control over her emotions and reactions. Her stepping down from frenemies is for the best as she said. She knows that her friends and family have to take an emotional toll and “walk on eggshells” around her which is why she is stepping down from the podcast, it’s tough for both sides/:

[@WynterThe2000]

@@cullenshaver106 nah her behavior is unacceptable, bpd or not. everyone is responsible for themselves and she treats ethan like shit bcuz she knows he will forgive her

[@cullenshaver106]

@@WynterThe2000 👍🏼 yup she is responsible for how she treats others which is why she’s stepping down from the podcast, so the staff and ethan won’t have to deal with her destructive behavior

[@maddiegraf]

Why can trisha talk about David for episodes on end but GOD FORBID HILAS PREGNANT

[@Bridgerblu]

Forreal

[@decouvrir69]

Trish is so disgustingly jealous about Hila being pregnant that she is causing so many issues, to bring any kind of attention and focus back on her. She is going to great lengths to pull attention and justify it anyway she can. Bottom line. Hila being pregnant is the literal reason for Trisha being fucking horrible lately

[@pussypowerxo6995]

frrr like are they not allowed to b happy, ik if i ever got pregnant i wouldnt shut up about it for the first few weeks

[@maddiegraf]

@@decouvrir69 and such bullshit about the money, he has played her ads and linked to her channel, and not to mention trisha mentions fashionnova even tho ethan hates it! ethan is such a good friend and always supports her… sad to see trisha dump something good in the trash yet again.

[@savannahcox9629]

@@pussypowerxo6995 I’m currently pregnant, and one it’s so exciting so I talk about it all the time. And two it totally consumes you especially at the beginning. So yes I don’t understand why they can’t be happy. And talk about it

[@Kellypermhhp]

Hearing about Hilas pregnancy in the latest frenemies was honestly one of the best episodes in a while. I was excited for Ethan to talk about it, why is Trisha so upset about it being about him for once. The past enemies are all about Jason, David, hairbyjay, gabbie everyone she has problems with. Let him have his moment

[@mooooo8799]

!!!!!!!!!!!

[@olivia5187]

!!!

[@danielazavala4566]

Exactly

[@lauramullan4444]

she brought it up too when they got the food I dont understand :(

[@Lucy_f831]

!!!!!!

[@jlane8750]

Hilarious that Trisha goes "why cant we take that FIVE PERCENT and hire separate employees for Frenemies"-- as if that 5% is enough to fund a whole new crew

[@alextric2812]

I seriously wish gaslighting never became a popular term so we didn’t have to watch all these rich influencers use it incorrectly. The words mean nothing now

[@heathersouter]

fr its like "oh you lied to me? okay gaslighter🙄" its not just trish specifically but its so annoying to see it used like that because gaslighting is so serious and damaging it sucks to see it thrown around.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yeah if you want to laugh watch Dave Rubin use the word incorrectly

[@katatonic726]

The term was coined in 1938 or so~~~ if anything be mad that some internet personality said it & everyone else only JUST fucking learned it from them 🤣

[@veilenedream5825]

yeah it's a cycle that ruíns a lot of useful words :(

[@kristenjoanne8274]

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!! They try to sound smart by using "big words" but they end up making asses out of themselves by using them incorrectly! Read a damn book....

[@esof55]

she basically managed to insult everyone, including the fans, and still acts as if people are gaslighting her. She was looking for this honestly.

[@mxmse437]

She's not a good role model at all

[@garigarigar6913]

She didn't insult anyone. Lol

[@wyshsshhssj7619]

@@mxmse437 an opinion nobody asked for, heard

[@dantepereirea3992]

She’s literally sick can people have a heart and research bpd more what you’re doing is basically shaming her for sneezing. It’s a symptom of her condition.

[@marielmartillano]

@@dantepereirea3992 so is it heathier to encourage it and let her get away with making her illness an excuse? It's ironic cus Trisha said it herself that mental illness is not an excuse to treat people like shit. Nobody is attacking her, only calling her out and try to make her realize that she needs to take accountability for her actions and words that can be below the belt SO MANY TIMES (calling hila the c word and telling them that they're bad parents) Also she keeps bringing up Ethan's tourettes even though he explicitly said it makes him uncomfortable, yet Ethan has to be careful about what he says cus it might be a trigger to trisha 🙄 She needs to grow up.

[@xmeganc]

Trisha giggling about them getting 5 percent and implying it’s too much is gross. Trish always talks about paying their people but god forbid Ethans crew gets some money when they do a lot for the podcast. Sick

[@rileyhurford7304]

they/them. not she

[@princesscaliduh]

Never been so disappointed in Trisha 😕

[@tc-zl5rs]

sick is a bit of an overstatement.

[@webgard_]

@@rileyhurford7304 she goes by both

[@RainwriterMusic]

Hell. I wish more ppl were like Ethan. Paying your employees enough to live a good life is a choice and he made that, himself~

[@jescerie7382]

Remember how trisha started this ep by gaslighting Ethan about the costumes?? Then just continued to lie and insult him until she finally decided to be the victim

[@alexandriaketison3982]

She literally says “it’s frustrating “ and then says she isn’t frustrated. She was already pissed when she walked in and has seemed off them entire time 😭 Guess that’s why it’s called Frenemies 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@lyl3]

I literally kept screaming that at my screen.

[@user-hk4di4kz7z]

i think she was already having an awful day to begin with her make up artist cancelling

[@rosewater1862]

I think she means confused? Adn shes not really botherd, I think everyone knows when she is but I do think ethan was pushing it saying she is, like what does it matter? Just talk, don't try to push it in her face that you think she's upset. I do think that's gaslighting because she isn't upset shes just confused. It's obvious when she's upset, she was just confused

[@8BitCR]

STOP ORDERING PIZZA!!! Something bad happens every time

[@teopro793]

Yeah it's almost like they manufactured it to be this way... there's no such thing as a coincidence

[@churcur1783]

Yaaaa they said dominos I was like noooooooooo

[@mattydips2887]

Its that horrendous combo of pineapple jalapeños and olives. I couldnt possibly think of a grosser pizza

[@deadams8905]

@@mattydips2887 I must be hungry because that sounds good but with the fancy olives not the black ones

[@dess9618]

@@teopro793 Literally

[@mrscupcakechic]

i am normally always IMMEDIATELY on trisha's defense but.... this was awful. she's accusing him of "gaslighting"? she was getting angry and bringing up VERY personal information while getting louder and louder and more frustrated - and then gets angry when ethan acknowledges that? and for the record, as someone who's spent 90% of their life in therapy, you don't get to just throw that at people's faces for leverage. very sad.

[@jasminegonzalezDLT]

And she talked about money !!! 💰 second hand embarrassment 🙃

[@spookyemmy888]

she didn’t get loud once she was very mature and was explaining her feelings while ethan was saying her feelings aren’t true

[@Awzuki]

why are u always on Trisha defense immediately you should always take everyone into consideration not just her because you like her, that's just gross

[@teslanicole1691]

It is a VERY frustrating feeling to have someone tell you how you feel when that’s not the emotion you’re trying to have come across. She has trauma, he wasn’t gaslighting her but to her it felt like it because he was telling her how she felt when she clearly didn’t think she was coming across that way. This is about perception and her needing to be more aware of how she comes across and not everyone being there to gaslight, etc. And Ethan needs to be better at communicating and getting to the solution or issue instead of being dismissive to shut it down.

[@rholder81]

@@teslanicole1691 I don’t think Ethan is the one that needs to learn how to communicate. He is usually clear and concise. She’s the one with the problem and the one that needs to work on her communication. She was upset from minute one when she started talking. The tension was palpable. She was talking about strangling him with a cord for fucks sake.

[@devyn7sg]

Lmfao trish is so scared of Gabbie because they’re literally the same personality type 💀

[@dkowalczyk5363]

She's scared cause she lied about her so much

[@anola2217]

@@dkowalczyk5363 and are you aware of how many lies trisha has been caught in? lol

[@valeriewilmoth5309]

HANDS DOWN The truest shit I’ve ever read. This woman pisses me off so much, I’ve never seen someone who thinks the world revolves around them so much. She’s literally insane and it’s so insanely unattractive

[@gotham7296]

trisha and gabbie are on very different levels and you can tell. don’t even start

[@anola2217]

@@gotham7296 Shiver me timbers. They are not lol