Talking Guitars, The Universe & Everything with Dan from That Pedal Show!

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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 Intro Playing!
» 1:20 Introducing Dan!
» 3:20 Why Guitar Stuff Brings us Together!
» 5:13 What It's Like to Play Music With Others!
» 7:25 Why Use Pedals & a GigRig?
» 21:40 The Origins of GigRig!
» 26:45 Who Is it For?
» 28:40 What's New?
» 35:22 Getting the Most Out of Pedals!
» 38:38 Pedal Order?
» 42:06 Wet/Dry/Wet & Stereo!
» 43:50 The Right Gear for the Right Gig?
» 49:44 The G3 Atom
» 51:02 Competitors?
» 51:49 The Problem with Audio Transformers?
» 55:20 Collecting Pedals Over Time
» 57:22 Retailers?
» 1:02:10 Thanks For Watching!
» 1:02:33 Outro Jam!
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[@iryan9]

We don't get enough of Dan just playing, that intro was great!

[@patrickmckay6621]

his new board is crazy futuristic madness. great interview

[@stanislavmigra]

Dan, when he plays his rig, is something else. Prime example, that gear will make you better player.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah, cheers mate, that tele is fantastic!!

[@rsmallfield]

That were h'inspiring, it were!

[@mikedr1549]

He's a terrific player. Mick is as well.

[@Liam_Doherty_UK]

Dan’s enthusiasm for what he does is contagious. He’s a pleasure to listen to. 👍

[@TheDrunkenScoundrel]

As a small business person who has spent most of my life dealing with small businesses I really want to give you two a shoutout for the discussion at the end: This is how normal people do business and the people who don't do business that way are just wrong..sure they may make money fast, but it isn't JUST about that. More people need to learn how to do what you have talked about.

[@kaiying74]

If we don't have nice tones today then all hope is lost... 😛 5:50 - OMG. Dan's just said something I've been saying to people for years. YES. You absolutely give a little piece of yourself to people you play music with in a band. Something about the vulnerability you have to give over to the larger whole to ensure the success of the band. I absolutely believe that's a thing.

[@Gibfenez]

Dan is an amazing designer and analyzer of all things pedals. Amazingly helpful and a complete gentleman in business. Total pro in service and quality. I am building now with the G3 and am having a blast just putting it all together. Dan is right, it all about the fun of it. All of it, the building, experimenting, playing, learning. Never stop. Enjoy it all.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah mate, that’s so wonderful to hear, thanks so much 🤓🙏

[@compucorder64]

It's true. Guitars, pedals and instruments are like toys, they encourage playing. And that makes people happy. Pedals are endlessly fascinating, modular synthesizer modules are too. Lego for creating sounds.

[@risteardohaodha23]

Couldn’t agree more with your comment !

[@ToddTheJoker]

I loved this! My two favorite YT channels are Andertons and That Pedal Show and the sense of community that Mick and Dan generate with their show is palpable and I am glad to be a part of it! It's a beautiful thing! Thanks Lee and Dan, and Pete(from behind the scenes on this one)

[@kenphillips3282]

You guys are absolutely correct, playing live music in a band for an audience binds us musicians/guitarists on a whole other level. It is magical. So at age 68 in Australia and still playing live music, I continue to experience that joy and magic that I will forever be grateful for. Rock on gents 😃🤘

[@jtkane317]

That opening Jam is so very 80s. I dig it.

[@bluesbuster2000]

Love you both guys… and Mick and Pete. Thank you for your shows on YT. ❤

[@nathankellstadt412]

This was great. It's like when TV shows would have crossover episodes. I kept waiting for Pete to stick his head out and say hi.

[@Wadey1960CS]

2 Legends in the gear industry. What a Joy to watch, Love hearing gear nerds talk about their passions. Thanks @Andertons Music Co, @ThatPedalShow, and @TheGigRig

[@Payne2view]

Always a pleasure to see Dan so modestly showing his company's best switching system.

[@jasondejong3062]

Can’t even start to describe how much knowledge I have gained from Dan and mick, basically everything I currently know about signal path and pedal stuff is owed to TPS. Love those guys and Lee too!

[@mclarensmps]

When TPS and Anderton's crews combine, it's my favourite time on KZbin. Fantastic conversation, and I love Dan's playing :)

[@toms5951]

Has there been a TPS takeover of Anderton's? Would love to see Dan and Mick build a rig while walking the store, either on a budget or not.

[@Mahdi_ddA]

My name is mahdi and im 22 years old and Live in italy but i watch your videos every day guys really i love uk And england i hope this 2024 my dreams it comes true to play guitar in uk 🌟🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🎸🎸🎸⭐⭐🌞🌞🎸

[@mudwiser1391]

Good luck Mahdi!

[@LAFORCETV]

GO!

[@thejuggernaut5327]

Nice to see Dan at Andertons, classes-up the place.

[@SocksworthRiffs]

I could I would like to just spend time with Dan and talk about gear, because no one is into gear like me around me. I could listen to conversations like this all day honestly, Dans knowledge and love for gear is unmistakable.

[@petercarparelli]

Dan is the man. Love TPS

[@jeffreyradick6486]

Having watched Dan & Mick on KZbin for a number of years, I have to say that when watching Dan play, it is very noticeable -- like night and day -- when he turns on a sound that inspires him. His face is different, his playing is different, and it becomes a completely different thing to hear and watch.

[@justynregini8532]

What a great Video, well done TPS and Andertons - a wonderful combination!

[@gregantonowicz2818]

I love Dans playing. And it's cool to know the cap is a decent dude. Always figured he was anyway, but still cool.

[@rodrigoguaspari9445]

Does anyone else ever also have the thought that Dan is the loveliest man in the planet ever?

[@67er_matze97]

stellar episode!👍 The joy and inspiration you guys are spreading is just awesome

[@davidsanderson7715]

I could listen to Dan chatting tone all day long.

[@anthonyalfredyorke1621]

Thanks Gents for a fabulous hour & four minutes, you can't go wrong with Andertons and Gig Rig with a bit of Danish on the side " OH SUITS YOU SIR " . PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.

[@Stewbert_72]

Loving Dan playing through the Johnny Marr. It inspired me to pull trigger on one and they are incredible

[@mmiller6873]

Like seriously, I have so many ideas generating from this episode. Well done!! I play through a Headrush unit, however I now want to build myself a nice pedal rig and have fun experimenting with all the possibilities.

[@sybamunki]

38:25- I've discovered this exact thing. I've been in the same covers band a few years and early on I had a load of pedals, then HD500 to try to get each song to sound like the recording. The last 2-3 years I rely on 3-4 gain stages, a mod and delay and I'm sorted! Plus I feel I sound like 'me' for the whole set.

[@victorparedes6887]

Love this chat. Thanks guys.

[@chriscuthbertson]

I love the screens on my Helix..... total game changer.

[@johnf883]

I love my G3S !! Still have my G3 also. Wonderful switching systems which greatly improves tone and useability in any size board. I live in USA and shipping from UK is faster than shipping from USA. I wish dealers here had The Gig Rig products so that we could see/hear them in person.

[@WadMartin]

Dan, thank you, Andertons, thank you for having Dan.

[@JimmyDel]

Love hearing from Dan. Always comes across as such a genuine guy and you can see the passion in him when he talks about this stuff. As a G3 owner I can highly recommend GigRig stuff. Build quality is outstanding and service is absolutely top notch. Great stuff 🤘

[@lance134679]

I don't think the analog pedals vs digital multi effects debate will ever end. For me, the answer is to have analog pedals for effects I use all the time, namely boost/overdrive/compression, as well as tremolo, spring reverb and tape delay. But for effects I only use occasionally, my H9 and HX Effects fills in all the gaps, especially for mod effects like chorus, flanger, phaser, and rotary speaker, along with others like octave and wah.

[@41DegreesSouth]

For me, the answer is to not give a fuck about the "debate" at all. It's about as useful people arguing about which cigarette brand is the "best". It's ridiculous. Play what makes you happy.

[@shrubbster1]

In case no one has said yet, the festival he's talking about is ArcTanGent. Fantastic community, music and setting.

[@robertfrippers]

The maestro of tone!

[@TheFeelButton]

Screens! Cheers Captain and Dan!!

[@Tylerxfm]

What an intro from the man himself! Great video!

[@cloremancey2653]

Always a pleasure to see Dan. Great that you guys work out something together and hopefully be able to support a great brand and range of amazing well built and thought products from GigRig. I own a g3 and absolutely love it. Sounds great, super flexible and easiest to use putting it far from its competitors. The KZbinrs from US seem to not give enough credit to GigRig solutions. Yes GigRig is a small company and besides that pedal show’s amazing presence and community, they probably cannot allocate much budget for marketing. Great to see that andertons has always supported them showcasing many times the quartermaster even though they had not much to gain. Lee deserves his nickname of captain and is sailing this ship very well with success, support and authenticity. You have to give credit to genuine people.

[@cameraramblings4107]

I remember Dan trying to sell me one when he first built them. I couldn’t for the life of me work out what he was going on about but i remember he was very passionate about it. I only used three pedals back then so a switcher not a priority.

[@robbieredball]

Love Dan and his playing, listening to him made me buy a Tele and kit it out with Don Mare Supersport pups and I'm a strat lover like Mick. Love that Anderton's is a family run shop that obviously loves what it does. I grew up in Blackburn where Reidy's was the big local music shop. They had a sunburst strat in there when I was in my early teens and wouldn't let anyone try it, I used to hang out there every saturday and stare at the strat thinking I'd never be able to afford one. Got 5 now Reidy's and you should have trusted a young kid to try it. I suppose it added to the aura and love that it seemed unattainable. Something magical about music shops like Andertons, they make kids dream.

[@bobby-b9876]

2 legends. Big fan of dans work. Hopefully get a pedal board from him one day!

[@GRBAquatics]

Very Cool, Thankyou. So Awesome. Dan is a Champion. So knowledgeable and amazing player. That Pedal Show is awesome. All the Best. Cheers

[@cliftoncaskey5696]

Nice little XTC quote at the beginning!

[@andyfenton1510]

Love the comment of ‘having a modeller and I must use the right overdrive for the song.’ I use a Helix or an HX effects, and use my favourite pedal at my favourite setting. I still love my pedals, but love the flexibility of the Helix.

[@Giovy-Perez]

I love Dan! amazing gentleman... Thanks Mr.Lee

[@sjlacey65]

Don’t be so sure Lee, still watching and loving this - TPS and Andertons, what’s not to love

[@MadAxeman926]

Incredible sounds coming through my headphones from Dans playing. That stereo was just surreal. Having recently taken Lee's advice and bought a Quartermaster 8. The Quatermaster along with the gen-x 14 felt like an extravagant purchase , but it really has simplified my pedalboard as well as getting better tone through my aging 1980's Marshall combo. I can't quite justify the cost of the G3(s).................. yet!

[@EJH-jn6mo]

Only thing missing from G3 that others have are more parallel stereo paths and Dan has said that’s coming soon in an update. Love what Dan is all about, he’s the best.

[@spaghettimeatballswow]

I love collabs!

[@jloiben12]

The biggest benefit for pedals to me is how much easier it is to make changes. Like sonically, it is all largely the same. It is a user interface thing for me. Pedals make getting variations much easier/quicker/etc

[@KoaCharvel]

I love it when 2 different channels I follow do a crossover!

[@stephenbedford1395]

So peeved that I missed Dan's meet and greet at Pedal Empire here in Brisbane, Australia (Dan's home town) a few weeks ago.

[@pikap8649]

Of all the TPS videos I’ve watched I was taken back when he said Australia. I never noticed his accent wasn’t British but now I can hear it plain as day.

[@tedc6694]

In my experience 200 people close up to stage IS the apex of adrenaline. Especially if friends are in audience that haven't heard you play. But the REAL magic is when everyone is playing right on, and you sound better than practice and look at each other and give the slightest nod to another member and with eyes wide open and a broad smile they nod back knowing EXACTLY the butterflies in your heart... THAT'S the BAND peak experience. Icing on the cake is having 100-200 people cheer when you do ANYTHING. Wink and shoot a finger gun at the crowd and they cheer like they LOVE YOU? That can be addictive too, but not as REAL as the connection to band members

[@Chris_Nouvelli]

Well said. I’ve never played to a crowd that size, but I felt every word.

[@DomSchu]

Dan is a tone chaser like the rest of us. I totally agree having the two amp rig is really hard to go back from. My favorite rig was my Mesa Rectoverb stack with a Budda Superdrive combo on top. Effects loop only on the Superdrive. So incredible getting the chewy midrange edge of breakup tone from an el84 combo with that warm and full bodied 6l6 boogie set cleaner.

[@LJG781]

Fantastic ...

[@Xenious]

Rocking that Oto Bim! TPS got me so hooked I picked one up myself from that demo and my previous experience on a Biscuit. Oto FTW! Now I just need to get one of those new Gigrigs. Those 'label' screens rock!

[@Piplodocus]

I 'kin love Dan! I'd never get on TPS cuz I don''t *mostly* use TGR stuff (that's very specific, for extra geeky reasons), and mostly because I'm a total nobody, but equally I still own LOADS of TGR PSU stuff (but not a Gx) and TGR make loads of superb stuff I think is basically THE BEST for less weird, more "regular" (but still pushing boundaries), people than me. But either way he's a wealth of superb knowledge and just largely seems a great bloke who is in it for all the reasons I am also on the same mission for. I love Mick so much, but Dan is on more my crazy vibe when let loose (albeit, we all track slightly different über-geek paths). Keep on being splendid, you legends!

[@cmatte82]

For a small w/d/w rig, use a combo amp for the dry, and then a small stereo amp or two of those amps in a pedal, like the EH 44 magnum, and drive a stereo 212 under the combo.

[@frusciantegeartone]

So as much as I agree with the whole “I remember the first time I plugged into (insert pedal here)” thing, but honestly you can have the same experience with digital units. They are more in depth tinkering, which is either awesome or absolutely horrible, depending on your preferences. It boils down to a few things. What are you trying to achieve? Want a John Frusciante board with ALLL the effects and don’t have the money? Effects units are the way to go. If you are just a few pedals kind of player, maybe you’d enjoy the slight better sound of a tube amp with real pedals. But even then, cables and power supplies can be an issue. I’ve been back and forth too many times and I’m about to just switch to a helix and stay there for a while. It does everything I want and cost a fraction of what I’d spend on actual pedals.

[@CuntreeBoy]

Back in the early 2000s, I'm guessing it must have been 2003, I bought a set of Joe Barden Danny Gatton pickups off of Ebay. At the time, the pickups were really hard to get hold of as there seemed to be a hiatus in manufacture. I arranged to drive and collect the pickups, from my home in Suffolk, from the seller's home in Swindon, as I didn't want to risk them being lost or damaged in the post. After the seller handed me the pickups and a cup of tea, he said "Come and have a look at this prototype of something I've invented". We went into his front room and he showed me this huge pedalboard with this long, black rectangular thing with foot switches on and that the pedals plugged into. I was a 'plug direct into the amp' player back then, so the significance of what I was looking at, I'll openly admit, went a bit over my head. That rectangular thing was the original Pro 14. I subsequently saw Dan each year at Music Live in Birmingham and The LGS and, each year, watched his brand grow and grow. What great fun those shows were. It's really heart warming to see what a success Dan's company has become and how many players around the world now use his products. The guy has just ploughed away year after a year because he believed in his product(s). Today, I have the G2 and GigRig power supplies on my board and I still have the pick ups.

[@tomshoemaker662]

Episode of the year so far!

[@Dunewar]

One thing i think you overlooked in the modeler vs pedalboard topic: option paralysis. I sit behind a computerscreen all day, i don’t want to do that all evening too. I’ve spent hours looking for the right patch scrolling through menus, when all I want to do is press a button and go Vrooaaar

[@Happy-Me.]

My first pedalboard was the Yamaha SB-100 professional effects system as I never really liked the separate pedals system and the chaining of leads and power leads or depending on batteries. I then went on to the GT-6, GT-10 and still have the GT100 and I bought the GT-1000 on release. The best of all worlds and master of none I guess but very reliable and the sounds aren't that bad. For me the next pedal board I'd buy would be the Quad Cortex which is excellent! 😎

[@patrickcarroll1754]

I think there's room for both. There, the end. Love Dan and Lee

[@Les537]

Dan always has tasty licks. Rock on, boys.

[@compucorder64]

Great sounds Dan. The G3 system is ingenious, almost like parts of Eurorack modulars, but for pedals - kinda like matrix mixers too which are also great creative tools. Really loved that demo of applying different modulation on different sides. The only thing I do like that at the moment is with the Tremelo, which I use one one side, only because I don't have a stereo tremelo. But, I do have mono modulation pedals (apart from SCF+). Must try sticking different mono mod pedals on the L/R side. And that's more of a frustrating limitation than a feature. You can do some of this in a more limited, blocked way, using a pedals like the Meris Mercury X, and LVX, or Empress Zoia, just because they let you program multi-patches. But the fact that the order of drive / delay / reverb would be more fixed without a switcher doesn't bother me so much since I run them in that order 90% of the time. It's stuff like playing with the stereo of modulation that's more interesting, and modulation on delay lines, maybe of different types. I love the way the Polymoon / LVX can do those modulated delay lines, or the DOD Rubberneck with the send/return on the delay. Not the same thing exactly, but does give you flexibility. I wonder if we'll see a Mercury X on your board in the future. Can do some things the CXM can, or at least similar, but can do lots that it can't do.

[@drewdunn2066]

Dan the man.

[@acousticglue]

Hence even though I play in headphones mainly, the stereo effect using a Helix and pedals such as LVX and placing vibrato on one side is glorious but there are so many tricks within a DAW that pedal makers are not doing on outboard equipment that can be inserted in live rig. OBNE has begun that journey, EHX made a routing tool BUT there is so much more! Or you can go down the same ole road. The beauty of music.

[@radud5176]

Legends!

[@stuartcarden1371]

Being in a band when everything is smooth and sounds great and playing with great people...There's no better feeling in the world!

[@user-oi3jz6fv8p]

Who you play with is a huge component

[@stephenturner8102]

I saw the thumbnail and thought you had Tim Pierce in, then saw the TPS hat

[@MrRiverlord999]

In my music room I have a Multi-Effects unit and a trad pedal board plus a valve amp and a Stryman Iridium. I just can’t get away from my trad setup!

[@RobertFisher1969]

I don’t know that I’ve ever found a pedal that I found more inspiring than the same effect in a multi-effects unit. The reason I switched from multi-effects to individual pedals was because, at the time, there were things multi-effects units couldn’t do. Whether it was a specific effect (EHX HOG) or routing options. These days, though, I feel like the multi-effects units have caught up or are catching up. Firmware updates mean that new effects can be added, and they have much more routing flexibility. I think I could probably get rid of most of my pedal collection and go back to only multi-effects…or even an iPad or computer based system. That all said, I’m really glad companies like GigRig are out there giving us the options they are.

[@justinguitarcia]

Its all about work flow. Lots of folks appreciate the tactile nature of dealing with individual pedals or outboard gear opposed to plugins. I love that all the digital stuff exists now cause the price but turn individual switches and knobs, as silly as it may sound, is very satisfying and just feels more connected (for me at least). There is a spontaneity and movement to working that way that can be really satisfying

[@frusciantegeartone]

I’m with you 100%. I’ve went from pedals to multi fx, back to pedals, and now selling pedals again to go buy a helix floor and hopefully be done with the back and forth. The new digital world is so amazing and compact, it’s unreal. I’m sick of cables, power supplies, weird pops engaging pedals, hard to figure out noise, etc… If you are a couple of pedals and tube amp kind of player, more power to you and I actually think they sound/feel better. But they aren’t that much better sounding, and honestly combining the 2 together make a great compromise.

[@grahamsaunders7432]

Great show with Dan, great guy. Would be great if you had Jack Griffiths on sometime ( Ex Peach Guitars Guitarist )

[@Ace-lp2od]

On the earlier question of playing in a band. Most for me has been 7,000 up to now. I found that much easier than playing to a few people in a pub who are either staring at you or have no interest in what you are playing.

[@alguitarchristie]

I have used multi effects and tried to replace my modulation pedals with for example the Boss MD 200, but the digital versions of the analogue pedals are tinny sounding! You can't get a sound of an Mxr Phase 90, or Flanger etc..... they just have a warmth! With the quartermaster I can bring them in and out and keep the clean signal pure. And I can bend down and change things on the fly much quicker!

[@user-su4ly6rg7z]

Dan ❤❤❤

[@anthonyvieni4894]

Dan is the best I absolutely love the pedal board he did a while back Mr. Griffiths on his channel… and I look forward to seeing him design an inexpensive rig he is amazingly knowledgeable…

[@briantate692]

Lee nailed it, when you rehearse or play live, there is a point when you say , what was that about

[@chrisst-amour8661]

Worlds are colliding!

[@scottakam]

Dan is the best. More than a hack like me will ever need but best of luck with it!

[@shfnderrock]

So cool 👍

[@brooksrownd2275]

Oh great, something else I never knew I needed! :o

[@BlackofAzur]

Dan rules !

[@hegz1484]

More Dan, less rush!!! Get him in again :D !!!

[@gavinskio]

So great just to listen to folk passionate about the same thing without a script. I can't justify a gig rig, but I totally buy that thing about a new pedal leading you to a new sound/style. I got a cheap compressor recently having ignored them or used one I. A multi effect: £30 has changed my playing forever, and I can't see me playing without a stand alone compressor ever again.

[@markkempster7367]

Yay amazing to see Dan on here :)

[@mark.guitar]

Longing for a G3 at the moment. Tried wet dry wet using a Bluguitar Amp1 for the dry and a Katana 50 and a Blackstar HT5 for the stereo wets. Even with "cheap" gear it makes a huge sound. Who is going to be first producing a compact stereo amp for wet dry wet?

[@johnf883]

Dan, build 2 identical boards, one without a switcher, the other with G3 or Atom and demo the difference in sound on That Pedal Show. People will be surprised at the tone difference.

[@kyledonworth3845]

Link please.

[@MarcFonda]

There are few of us watching to the end!

[@kahlrhoam6769]

Dan’s THE 21st Century *Clean Power Ranger*! 👏🍿

[@thisisqualia]

I think they are still there complimenting each other... Hahaha Love all of you guys! Thank you.

[@BradRocker]

Cappers is the man.

[@ArthurDent33]

Thank you for the restful sleep this vid has given me

[@chrismoly]

Is that Johnny Marr sig Jaguar? Looks stunning 😍

[@Stewbert_72]

I got one . Do it if thinking about it

[@evalonious]

8:32 😂❤🎸 Love you Brother!😂

[@tgflowers2393]

Some of us are still watching 😉

[@freitopolis]

Dan!