Talking to The Man - Mufti Abu Layth

Abdullah Gondal is having a live discussion with Mufti Abu Layth
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0:00 Introductions
2:15 How did Mufti Abu Layth become a Mufti? His background. How Abdullah Gondal's background is similar to Mufti Abu Layth’s background.
16:15 How is Mufti Abu Layth's current view of the Quran different from his view when he was studying Islam 10 - 15 yrs ago. What is his view of things like jinns and Jesus raising the dead?
21:55 Why do people believe? The search for meaning in life - what does this process entail? Is it subjective or objective? How people make their own meaning.
26:01 Consciousness - What is it and how exactly does it work? Is there a Soul and what is it? Near-death experiences.
38:50 Religion provides people with a story that acts as a support system in their lives.
40:12 Religions are mutually exclusive and give people a false sense of hope. How do these stories give credence to the Islamic stories?
43:14 If the claims of the Quran are metaphorical truths then how is Mufti Abu Layth's position different from that of the Meccan Kafirs who were rebuked by Muhammad?
48:20 Which stories and miracles in the Quran Moses, Jesus, Noah are real events, and which ones are metaphors? What are miracles? How many of these stories are actual facts? How should the Quran relate to individual Muslims? The question of morality.
1:05:30 The Quran - Is it a divinely inspired miracle or just the works of humans?
1:11:06 Who had the best understanding of the Quran?
1:18:56 Why Mufti Abu Layth believes in the Quran? Why does he think that the Quran is so unique such that it can only have come from a God?
1:32:10 The Quran does not provide a framework upon which Muslims are supposed to improve their morality to suit the modern context. Does this make the Mufti and other Muslims moral subjectivists?
1:36:25 Can we discard the teachings on Hudood and where does this leave the Quran in terms of it being a moral compass? What is sharia law and what purpose does it save?
1:48:20 Break
1:49:40 Is the Mufti okay with flirting, birth control, and pre-marital sex?
1:57:01 Given the changing role of women in the modern world, Can women lead prayers and take up religious roles in the mosque?
1:58:36 Is LGBTQ+ halal or haram?
2:03:35 Mufti's opinion on celebrating Christmas, Easter, valentine?- The identity politics that comes with this.
2:10:01 The idea of Kaaba and the black stone - was this an original Islamic idea or was it borrowed from other cultures? Given that Islam borrows from other cultures, what unique thing does Islam provide the people?
2:15:36 Can non-Muslims go to Jannah? Is heaven symbolical? What happens in the afterlife?
2:21:25 Does Mufti Abu Layth identify with Muʿtazila?
2:23:57 Are Ahmadiyyas Muslims and do they get to go to Jannah?
2:25:33 Is the seal of the prophet hood essential to Islam? Is the Quran obsessed with the afterlife?
20:30:50 Are weed and alcohol halal or haram?
2:34:30 Mufti Abu Layth's take on the Dawah boys - Not understanding the obsession with converting people to Islam.
2:40:20 Mufti Abu Layth's message to the audience
2:45:20 Final remarks.

[@rafiahmed8416]

Mufti Abu layth is the future. Funny, witty and knowledgeable. As a muslim I am proud to have someone like him to learn from.

[@MasteIsIllmatic]

Please reform Islam with people like him. Or stay away from barbaric Islam.

[@RafiRafi-yo8vn]

Me too

[@yaqub5322]

@@MasteIsIllmatic it’s not your religion to say this

[@mightbyson]

@@yaqub5322 Does he have to be a Muslim to say their opinion about Islam ?

[@yaqub5322]

@@mightbyson no

[@jsingh265]

I agree with mufti saheb on lot of what he said. Sounds like a genuinely nice guy.

[@sarpreetkaur8145]

This is very nice mufti very well mannered and open minded compared to other islamic muftis. Only thing is a lot of his views and understanding of Islam seem reformed. Speaking as a past devout muslim I can't seem to link what I've read in the Quran and sahih hadeeths with a lot of what he says and I find myself scratching my head thinking where is his evidence where is he getting his thinking? Granted I'm not an expert by any means but can only go off my experience. Also much of his views are classified as heretical by other mufti and scholars. Many of their objections to Mufti Abu Layth are here on youtube. I do think if the islamic world adopted more of his way/view there would be less problems in Islam's relationship with non-muslims and other Muslims particularly Shia and Sufi muslims.He is admirable if I had to be Muslim I'd follow his school of thought.

[@shivangihere9141]

@@sarpreetkaur8145 but most of the islamic scholars don't agree with him and oppose him.

[@myvoice8497]

Whitewashing

[@shivangihere9141]

@@myvoice8497 yaa exactly.

[@jj-yi1ne]

@@shivangihere9141 there is no such thing as most islamic scholars. you’re just lying

[@cpsaleemyt]

Agreeing to disagree, in a friendly, respectful and polite manner. That should be enough for a fair and decent world.

[@fiazmultani]

Dear People of the word….. Do you know the truth about..... Islam? Or do you think it's about Bombing planes and killing innocent people.....? Forget about the lies..... I' am here to tell you how it really is..... You deserve to know the truth About this beautiful way of life..... People of the world Islam is all about peace Terrorism it doesn't teach Its all about love and family and charity And praying to one God This is Islam It's something you should know..... I know it's really helped me grow It does away with greed, filth, arrogance And teaches us morality A perfect way to live..... So don't believe all you see and hear Too many people wear a title of a Muslim..... But they don't practice Islam..... People of the world Islam is all about peace Terrorism it doesn't teach Its all about love and family and charity And praying to one God This is Islam And it teaches us the creator's made this life for us a test..... And if we follow truth and do good deeds, He'll reward us in the Next..... If we remember God & teach each other the truth and patience in His way Together we can live.....in peace..... This is Islam Lyrics by Yusuf Islam Please Google www.peacetv.tv/en-gb/faq-peacetv and visit the FAQ section for answers to the questions you may have about Islam. I am sure that you will find that Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance, justice, kindness, charity, love and worshiping one God.

[@pratapgadhvi7091]

@@fiazmultani Nice words except it doesn't include the fate of non believers.

[@pinpoint3770]

too bad islam tells you to commit violence, intimidation and at least censorship on us too bad for islam this is the internet age...

[@jj-yi1ne]

@@pinpoint3770 not true. u are describing yourself and projecting

[@ImpatientStudent]

Wow, what a mind blowing discussion. Wasn't expecting this at all. May Almighty bless you both.

[@sugetsumillenium2112]

This is so cool man I'm so glad this happened, so much to learn and reflect upon whether you're Muslim or not

[@superatheist9821]

I must say thank you to all 3 , Great live chat. 👍

[@superatheist9821]

@Zack Smith , Love you brother. 😎👍

[@quicktingz2097]

Wow Mufti showed me a side of Islam that I never knew existed.

[@taufeeqkhan2629]

There is no sides of Islam .the only side is Quran and hadith

[@sobantahir1011]

That's because his position is utter nonsense.

[@Some_Deist]

@@sobantahir1011 not even close

[@mona-xf5mr]

Such an open minded respectful discussion. Restores my faith in humanity.

[@gaznawiali]

Thank you very much to all of you for doing this.

[@petercozyn9360]

I'm not a Muslim and will never convert but I can listen to you for hours. Why can't we have cross faith discussions "not debates" like this? Just a question ?... What do you think about Isreal taking over the whole of Jerusalem? Thank you

[@diemanner7164]

Came here from Harris' Facebook post. Loved the conversation.

[@taufeeqkhan2629]

Hhhhhhh came here for waste of time.1 hour

[@JohnStopman]

An informative discussion! Thanks for uploading Abdullah :-)

[@thehourglassfan3515]

Mufti’s views are a breath of fresh air. God bless you.

[@khanG-gq9hc]

Amazing discussion 💯👌🏽

[@handa3606]

Mufti Abu Layth has the BEST laugh.

[@martinharris8980]

H and A whwb

[@martinharris8980]

When is it

[@Ant42Lee]

I know right? I could listen to him laugh all day lol

[@adamprickster]

His laughter is like camels farting. Its so fake and annoying

[@daoudsalman6047]

Mufti is next level went way over everyones head

[@BrustinNikolai]

Seems like a bad communicator then 😂

[@husseinmohamed8428]

I loved the discussion but please check on the sound quality please next time.thanks

[@asiemmalik736]

You have got to love Mufti, awesome guy and very open minded. But struggled to articulate some views that are really stretching in meaning here ie consciousness, stories in Quran etc. I share some of of his views on allegorical meaning behind these stories but doesn’t really hold up to scrutiny when tested. It’s an easy position to take in order to make sense of these stories but in many cases don’t hold a moral lesson and is simply focusing on supernatural events so therefore appear redundant?

[@waelben2000]

This was just a lovely conversation. If only everyone were like this gentleman.

[@havedinner3991]

waelben2000 It’s because they’re all upon the same Manhaj

[@ultrasignificantfootnote3378]

Mufti Abu Layth, is dominating the discussion and diverting into abstractions.For Mufti Abu Layth, the Quran being the word of God is just a matter of faith, but many believers are aware of the fact that faith is not a reliable pathway to truth, they just make an execption fotr their own personal faith.

[@ultrasignificantfootnote3378]

However Mufti Abu Layth, is a sympathetic and reasonable guy..

[@urdominus]

As opposed to what? There's no empirical evidence, so if anyone says anything other than faith, they're mistaken something else ultimately for faith lol

[@suigeneris2663]

I love your username so much.

[@knowstitches7958]

Mufti is a great guy,and very reasonable man.Respect him always

[@Khan-70]

Dude , the audio quality is so badd . why dont you guys do dicussions like these in a podcast format in a mini studio or something? Atleast tell the mufti to use headphones so his voice abdullahs voice doesnt eco in muftis computer. Its so frustrating to watch this , I would rather watch joe rogan than this.

[@mrmo2546]

One can develop brainceps just by looking at this mufti's mental gymnastics. Not a single straight answer. But he seems to be a little honest than most others, hope he does some self reflection and realizes the amount of beating around the bush that's required to supposedly justify his beliefs.

[@Some_Deist]

Can you give me an example of the mental gymnastics mufti did ?

[@jj-yi1ne]

islam is your own beliefs you idiot. its millions of paradigms packed under one name. you are just debunking your interpretation of islam

[@midniteswami]

My Mufti geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Sheikh ul Islam. best ideal most perfect person to represent Islam

[@aliqasim9157]

Hopefully, people will realize one day that religions are man-made.

[@abdullahalam4929]

Nah. Islam is logical. Atheism is illogical.

[@aliqasim9157]

@@abdullahalam4929 The logic exists independent of both atheism and Islam. The ideologies of atheism and Islam are man-made just like any other ideology. Now why these are man-made requires an explanation which can get very detailed.

[@kaleemsahab6930]

@@abdullahalam4929 good joke

[@gutss3959]

@@abdullahalam4929 Wishful thinking. You think Islam is logical because of your deep rooted need to believe.

[@restinaaprilianti4798]

@@abdullahalam4929 so splitting the moon, the sea and flying on a winged donkey are logical?

[@randomimmigrant348]

Asrar Rashid and co. Should watch and learn how to engage in conversation/debate.

[@AbdullahBakshi-yn2ep]

The quote behind Mufti sahab says alot.

[@MuhammadAdamGhamkoley]

What is the meaning and purpose of the urdu sentence behind Abu layth. I can't understand what it means.

[@quicktingz2097]

Music isn't subjective. Play something in the wrong key and it sounds terrible to everyone. Objectively.

[@zoltan506]

What is music then?

[@AbdullahSameerVideos]

Aaaarriiiite! 😁

[@braindeveloperdimensional5579]

He was talking around the topic but he never came to the topic, in the midway it became boring seeing him doddle around and giving pointless meanings to literal translations.

[@mssummerrose1]

@@braindeveloperdimensional5579 my words...

[@urdominus]

Nope, he was trying to exact definitions for the over generalizations the host was making. U know, like what's "truth" lol! If u didn't get that, this whole thing went over ur head. Which is why scholars shouldn't be debating w/laymen.

[@sugetsumillenium2112]

@@urdominus people don't understand these terms have presuppositions when used and these need to be unpacked

[@carraweelosceptic964]

d d you don’t know what the truth is? Is the Quran objective truth from god or not? That is ether Abdullah is talking about. And who decides where in the Quran us metaphor and where it’s absolute? Did Allah clarify? No. Muftis like this nowadays say these things because there is more pressure given that communication has become easy because if the internet and information is easily available. This is pure voodoo and pseudoscience. Where people like deepak chopra abs his like make their careers. No difference to a psychic trying to unite that with science.

[@ihteee]

Although Abu Layth seems like a reasonable and knowledgeable person he still hasn’t answered any of Gondal’s questions with a direct answer. Very smart of him to go on random tangents whenever possible.

[@funwell3152]

Now slowly people are realizing the reality of religion and religious gods, [ of dark ages] as they are getting more and more awareness

[@jj-yi1ne]

you are dogmatic

[@ammarahsajid2457]

Great talk. Love Mufti and appreciate you called him onto the platform. What I'll say is it could be compared to the fact that there are pseudo doctors or cures out there but that doesn't mean you stop looking for the right one.

[@dawoodmotara2386]

I have a question did u ever respect your teachers

[@Khan-70]

Video quality is bad too! :(

[@tariqyounas1752]

This was like Mayweather(mufti)vs Pacquiao(abdullah)... Not a great fight but still wanted to watch it all..🤷‍♂️

[@ImranAli-tm3rq]

"We will set up the Just Scale on the day of rising and no self will be wronged in any way. Even if it is no more than the weight of a grain of mustard seed, We will produce it. We are sufficient as a Reckoner." (Quran 21:47).

[@m.haruniqbalqurashi267]

the audio has a problem i suppose...,,

[@nickhobbs6514]

Great chat, I hope there's another one.

[@badukwame]

The events of the traffic lights can be viewed and translated AS SHEER LUCK instead of MIRACLE.

[@adamprickster]

Why so many people find this man so profound is beyond me. Everything he says has to be qualified with " i believe ..." or " i dont believe..." versus what is actually written and understood by the masses. Most of what he says is utter nonsense but sounds great because of his choice of words. The scriptures, especially the Quran plainly declares it is self explanatory and sufficient. How one decides to interpret it is just that-interpretation"

[@zwayra6903]

He says “I believe” because he follows the maliki mathhab that also “believes” in certain interpretations, and this is applied to the remaining 73 sects of Islam, this is how Islam has always been, Sunnis believe scholars can interpret the Quran, Shias believe only the progeny if the prophet can interpret the Quran, pick your sect😅

[@jj-yi1ne]

that doesnt make any sense. you are just debunking your own interpretation. you are just a dogmatic islamaphobe

[@kkentertainment1990]

We all viewers in much n much support for indain exmuslim agar koi he to channel banane ko age aye or Apne views share kare love n support from India

[@MohammadKhidar]

Oh such a long discussion and Mufti Abu Layth didn't give us his amazing laugh 🤣

[@shohorabahamed3753]

What Mufti must understand is that Abdullah is used to making critiques of Islam based on the most layman apologetics of Muslims. He is not used to anything beyond that elementary level polemics. But all in all its a good discussion. I just watched for the second time because it popped up. I must give kudos to Mufti for his patience and his repeated attempts to take Abdullah beyond the Montessori level polemics. Great going.

[@zaidzain9048]

@47:22 abdullah tried to do his typical gymnastic but lyth gave him the same refutation which abdullah uses himself 😁

[@quintanvos4407]

Mufti Abu Layeth appearing in an ex muslim show is a victory for muslims.

[@lynlydvids3264]

Mufti was avoiding to directly answer from the qur'an. This means the qur'an is not perfect. He has to use different examples. My dear the qur'an Can't defend its self

[@empress2423]

Abdullah did not ask about Quran 65:4 sex (marriage sex and divorce) fm girl child brides"wives" with no period, yet, is allowed by Allah, with no minimal age. And the 4 witnesses in the Quran? used by the Sharia in order to allow to rape any woman, because only if the rapist was so dumb to rape in front of 4 male witnesses? then is rape, Otherwise is considered Zina, illegal sex, and the victim will be accused and punished, even to death

[@zwayra6903]

You have a goldfish brain?

[@zehravesile]

Mufti doesn't represent us Muslims.... He has no idea bot even de basics.....

[@rationalboy007]

ہم بھی کیا یاد کریں گے کہ خدا رکھتے تھے!

[@adamk6148]

Disappointed with this discussion. If I had an hour with Abu Layth I would’ve asked better questions, plus online live discussions don’t flow as well than in person, let’s hope waleed can meet him in person for a discussion.

[@saqibkhan-mq4sd]

First change your name from abdullah to abdul darwin or abdul science or abdul dawkins. Q k ye naam maa baap ne islamic identity pe raka ta....

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

2:27:00 the quran is obsessed with the afterlife...duh, yea so what is your problem with afterlife? We believe afterlife is where we get our rewards, if people are obsessed with their retirement, whats the big deal with afterlife obsession? it is the ultimate retirement, isnt it?

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

Val Kayar wats ur point?

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

Val Kayar Your point is about destiny. Our scholars agreed on that people have some amount of free will but Allah already knows the destiny of each one of us. We are not compelled into a life of obedience or disobedience. Also Allah helps us in our intentions. If we want to obey, he will open doors to obedience. In the Quran Allah said we get what we sent forth by our actions. Your are responsible for your actions and on the day of judgement u will have to answer for what you have done.

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

@Val Kayar can you please keep your question concise, again, what is your point? Are you copy and pasting from a site or something? Ask me a clear question

[@nonchai]

Poor old Abdullah Gondal finds himself - as many skeptics including Sam Harris have found themselves: "Nailing jelly to a wall". Oh my goodness. I like this guy Layth for his laugh and friendliness. And especially sympathised with him when he had an extremely difficult snd frustrating time in a video recorded "discussion" debate with a certain salafist fundamentalist some months back. But here sadly Abu Layth shows himself to be not much more intellectually than the equivalent of an Islamic Jordan Peterson. And there is an expression that has been used with regard to similar discussions between detractors of religion /sceptics - or even a fundamentalist and certain breeds of liberal theologian. And it is.... nailing jelly to the wall. Its a simple device or approach that Abu Laith has fallen for and I don't think he knows he's even doing it himself. He is simply using the fact of multiple meanings for words to divert himself from questions that need answering. "Truth". Jordan Peterson did exactly the same in two Harris interviews and in doing so immediately lost my respect. One *has* to agree on how two parties are to use certain words in a conversation and then agree not to do any bait-and-switch. Its not clear Abu Layth actually realises this is what he is doing. I suspect he doesn't. Thus he is in fact just fooling himself.

[@sugetsumillenium2112]

It's the way he talks, and the way abstract-minded people like Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson talk, do you know why it feels like nailing jelly on the wall? Because they have to think about the point and talk about it to get to the point, they go around in a circle then go back. You just don't understand psychology my friend

[@ImranAli-tm3rq]

Mufti Abu Layth does reference his opinions in line with some past scholars even though it may oppose the majority mainstream position in many cases...Truth can sometimes be with the minority.. and that minority can bring about change through truth and justice...examples from the past include fighting for womens right to vote...or Ali and vietnam...However the other side of the coin is that in many cases the minority opinion can be extreme and illogical like we see with intolerant extremists in society and some other groups.

[@empress2423]

I thing that Abu Layth answered clear to all the questions, but he is following a religion invented by him, more similar to Judaism in many fields, than Islam. Were he used that "tactic" of diverting himself as Peterson? multiple meanings for a word?

[@yeahbuddy4712]

Nailing jelly to a wall... Hmm I've heard that before, oh yes Douglas Murray..enough said.

[@Ccccccgggggggjj]

@@empress2423 Yeah thats the problem,according to him islam would be logic and has some moral but we have to be fair and honest , the mainstream islam is the dumbest version and has no logic in fundamental beliefs therefor, we can all arguments throw away.

[@wulfrigjones9765]

Do i not make myself Clear

[@karinesmithsmith144]

Mufti saheb is a very Nice guy, but how after do much study can He remain muslim ?

[@glencecil293]

He interprets the Sharia Law the same as the Christian interprets the old testament.

[@taufeeqkhan2629]

Make what is relation of science with ex Muslim Abdullah.

[@kkentertainment1990]

Yaha par koi indain exmuslim he to apna channel banaye jisase India ki bate bhi main stream me as sake

[@ghazalmehak2102]

Nobody can defeat abulayth he has knowledge about whole universe

[@greentomatoes5034]

Get majid nawaz on the show. That would be good.

[@Flyingtoohardtofly]

If ex-Muslims were taught this Islam they never would’ve left. What they reject is Wahabi/Salafi literalism. The Islam of Abu Tayymia. If they were taught the Islam of Ghazali, ibn Sina and ibn Rushd, a very rational version of Islam, they would never leave.

[@Wardoon]

Mufti Layth is a nice guy trying to tread fine line between not completely saying he doesn't accept Islam and that it is one big lie and keeping his stature as Mufti within his community and family. At the end of the day he would need to find a way to reconcile the two and be true to himself and remain a leader to his community without alienating them.

[@zwayra6903]

If anyone in the world didn’t care about what people think it’s mufti Abu layth, just look at the way he dresses and look at the way he’s made an outcast by salafi youtubers, you actually think he cares? The most important thing to him is to stay truth to who he is, it’s unfortunate that u translate this into “he’s thinking about leaving Islam” because you’ve now missed the point, of anything mohamad hijab and Ali dawah and farid responds and dawah man would be more likely to leave Islam than mufti Abu layth

[@iiddrrii6051]

Good lord layth won’t stop speaking over the guy

[@pureevil4674]

Nice conversation but that mufti was waffling a lot and avoiding answers directly and made me often forget the question being asked. I not sure why that mufti is still muslim, doesnt sound like he believes in half the stuff in th islamic religion. I wont be surprised if he leaves the religion very soon

[@yuisakura6648]

I don't think he'd leave, imagine he's been thinking about this for several years

[@scoovadia9452]

Exactly. Nothing about him points towards him being a Muslim. He literally has earings and a fancy haircut while calling himself a mufti. No follower of the true Islam would condone his beliefs or actions. Perhaps he likes the fame. How on earth can he remain a Muslim when there's so much evidence against Islam.

[@Foshoo1]

Mufti Sahib does make sense , i wonder what would be athiests answer to issues Mufti raises other than i dont buy it.

[@manobik]

If mufti's Islam becomes mainstream where gay imams can practice their religion, your daughter can openly express her lesbianism and put on hijab, openly apostate son of yours can express his atheism in open air and share beer with strangers in Muslim majority country... I don't think exMuslims have any issue with this sort of Islam.

[@Foshoo1]

@@manobik you are talking as if everyone is either gay or lesbian or of some other gender, there will be some small percentage of gay and lesbian population no doubt, and I don't think Islam ever discussed this gender issue or considered it as a problem as its happening now, there were gays even in the time of Muhammad SAW I have always wondered why didn't they get condemned all the time as its happening today, ex Muslims don't really have problem with Islam, they have problems with current establishment or regimes that are more of political groups than religious and they twist religion to control, ex Muslims just using Islam in the same sense as these establishments are using Islam for ulterior motives tbh any ideology can be twisted for ulterior motives.

[@manobik]

@@Foshoo1 I meant mufti's Islam is tolerant Islam. Mufti's Islam don't kill apostates /gay imams/lesbian feminist hijabis/disown apostate children/accept pork eating beer drinking non binary cousins and have a fun eid dinner as a family. I don't have any issue with that version of islam. The whole exMuslim movement is irrelevant in that scenario. That is why exmna 's main motto is normalize dissent.

[@Foshoo1]

@@manobik There is no such this as Muftis Islam and traditional Islam, Islam means peace and Muslim is the one who submits to God that's it, rest is all politics. Anything that's bad for humans beings gets prohibited even by law, for example, drugs are not legal why because they r damaging,, what you see around the world is all politics, some kill in the name of democracy, some communism, and some religion.

[@manobik]

if you think Islam means peace, good for you. However, I am introduced to many versions of Islam. 1. Yasir qadih's traditional reform Islam 2. Farid/Mo Hijab/Sajid Lipham traditional Islam 3. Gay/lesbian/bisexual Imam's progressive islam 4. ISIS/Al Qaeda salafi islam 5. Modernists islam of dr javad hashmi/ khalil andani 6. Esoteric islam of sufis and ibn arabis 7. ibadi islam 8. mutazila islam 9.ismailii Islam etc etc etc

[@mreza84]

As an Ex-Muslim I very much respect the Mufti Abu Layth.

[@jj-yi1ne]

that didnt disprove the religion

[@hajarmatveeva]

There lots of folks this Mufti style without being called "muftis" they have other names... Lots of those exist in Judaism and Sikhism as well. They don't really different from Atheists but they hate to be compared to them. Because being a believer and a 'religiously affiliated person" is still a social credit for "Decency" and even "Acceptance". As long as there will be a stigma against Atheists those people who twist religion to whatever civilized society "wishes to respect" people like Mufti will on demand.

[@Some_Deist]

I've never seen a Sikh called mufti

[@jj-yi1ne]

that doesnt make anysense you just said he doesnt follow your interpretation of islam and he doesnt

[@privettoli]

Abdul is trying to argue points that were not made by Mufti.

[@PacisEritVobiscum]

Thumbnail pic of Abdullah Gondal is so sinister. like he is a jinn in disguise!! 😱

[@kiranaaisyah5281]

PacisEritVobiscum haha yeah, but I like it. Looks so savage

[@urdominus]

Like what da hell does a "jinn" look like? Lol

[@NK-fr5fj]

I'm lost mate . I think mufti , just haven't got any clue what abdullah asking.

[@anonimus6163]

even before start warming up for fighting abdullah loose his title, it shown at 00:04:15 which just laughing at the right time can knock down the other person psychologically, abu layt want to show him how deep of knowledge of islamic studies he was when he started it 20 years ago when abdullah only 4 years old, remind me how moh hijab usually says "hey boy'.. only boy not man yet. if abdullah could bring islamic studies from neuroscience" perspectives maybe it would be an interesting conversations, i bet abu layt has no idea what neuroscience is

[@SilverScorpio17]

I'm sure he studied Neuroscience as part of his recent bachelor's degree in psychology. In the UK and US, we have to have Neuroscience if we want to complete a psychology degree.

[@mkSkeptics]

Homosexuality in Islam? one Answer Allah destoyed Nation of lut on this act

[@SpondonIAftab]

Not this act alone...

[@elprofesor8571]

And they were a diffrent ummah

[@zverh]

You naughty naughty 🤣

[@nickross6364]

the whole art and beauty and what is truth just muddies the waters. its people who know the qur'an is not true trying to just confuse the argument. thats all.

[@jj-yi1ne]

prove your dogma

[@shookreeseeree4]

Mufti Layth tried very hard to avoid the direct questions from Abdullah.. especially on the truth of the Quran..he did said it was a matter of faith..so that means it is not the truth.

[@jj-yi1ne]

there is no such thing as truth

[@oleksijm]

Question - conversion from Islam is not a new thing. Malta, for instance, was mostly Muslim until the 12th century, and its language remains Arabic-based to this day. Parts of Spain used to be majority-Muslim, that were eventually converted to Christianity. Where's the jihad against those places?

[@mugzA21]

In Portugal and Spain the believers had to eventually leave...mostly to North Africa and the Ottoman Caliphate. Even North America where several Amerindian tribes were Muslim even before Columbus.

[@mugzA21]

There were crypto Muslims in Al Andalus both Portugal and Spain even after 1492 and until 1609. It took over 100 years to expel the converts and new Christians who had loyalty issues. Malta and some parts of Sicily is the only case where it happened successfully.

[@oleksijm]

@@mugzA21 my question is where is the jihad TODAY since clearly, in theory both Spain and Malta would form part of Dar ul-Islam today. And quite a bit of their population would be descended from apostates.

[@mugzA21]

@@oleksijm ya true dat bruh

[@MasteIsIllmatic]

@@mugzA21 hahahah Muslims before Columbus? Amigo please

[@suen3634]

This was painful to watch...the mufti getting all tangled up trying to answer the question of whether the Quran is truthful. Nice guy but doesn't give a little single direct answer. He was too busy 'unpackaging' and then gets lost in what he's trying to say or not say!

[@omerh8825]

I felt the exact same way. Abu Layth is a super nice guy, but you can kinda tell that he does not truly believe everything he is saying. I personally feel like he has some cognitive dissonance.

[@sobantahir1011]

Welcome to Islamic apologetics! I'm surprised how much patience Abdullah showed here. All Abu Layth did the entire debate was dance around the questions. Very frustrating.

[@Gunner_99]

He gave a direct answer, believing that the Quran is the word of god is a matter of faith at the end of the day, he wasn’t getting tangled up. He was just saying that truth in of itself can mean differently things for people, but as for Quran being the word of god, its a simple matter of faith...

[@zwayra6903]

This video wasn’t meant to give you five second answers packed with evidence, it’s meant for reflection, if u want the former then check out his other videos

[@rpdsouza1957]

Sameer , the solution is not the amicable views given by a liberal muslim, the problem is that the core of quran , hadiths , sunnah is violent, hateful and derogatory to women and non muslims, therefore any attempts at peaceful interpretation of quran and hadiths are bound to fail because a liberal interpretation can easily by replaced by a hard core interpretation, see the state of Indonesia and to some extent Bangladesh, these otherwise liberal countries are hurtling towards Islamic extremism.

[@AnilKumar-kc7jg]

👍

[@elizabethhardy5577]

Really sweet tone♥️🌺but completely no point or clarity drowning in a lot of words🤪 Guys please do it again and have a subject or a topic, because it’s just a lot of bla bla bla😅 Mufti Abu Layhy, I’m impressed by his brilliance of talking about a point and never making one😋🤪

[@jack_separo]

There is no way that quran means that raising the dead by jesus is not a metaphoric at all, no dalil show that. Sometimes i thought fundamentalists are right, just take it or leave it. This imam is just trying to make it rational but fail.

[@RIMJANESSOHMALOOG]

Starting around 53:00 mufti gets in trouble to explain about Quran tafseer principles. He shot himself in the foot. Painful to watch

[@supersmasher246]

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[@AbdullahSameerVideos]

Thanks. That must be the default

[@XiagraBalls]

Nice friendly conversation, but boy, did that Mufti start prevaricating and tap dancing around 1/2 way in. It was like listening to an Islamic version of a mix between Turek and Jordan Peterson. What is "truth"? What is love? What about art and music? 🙄Mate, just answer the damn question! Do you believe that the claims Islam makes are true (Quran is a final message, there is a single god, M was the final prophet and is a "perfect" example for all mankind and the Quran is the only guidebook anyone needs and is for all people for all time?)

[@saadishaq8927]

At 41 mins Gondal saab missed the point he couldn't answer and just replied to the one which was not even the Central idea of the point being stated :p Anyway, still watching. Interesting discussion.

[@jombali8891]

Why they r laughing too much?

[@abdullahbhatti.]

I also wonder, Abdullah Gonal laughs for no reason while even asking questions

[@pacco1737]

NICE CREEPER SHIRT DRIIIIP

[@yesyoureright]

Heading should be. One non Muslim talking to another non Muslim. While one pretends to be a muslim scholar. All you need to know is Allah knows your plans and Allah is the best of planners.

[@ghazalmehak2102]

Mufti Abulayth dominated to fool gondal mufti is best Islamic scholar in world you r best.

[@deosee]

Can't explain so god. Classic god of the gaps

[@ALIHussain-mf4ez]

Hi Abdullah Gondal, I really enjoyed the discussion and maybe have another one in the future. My question to yourself is what do you think of MUFTI ABU layth's answers to your questions ? Any feedback of what you think of this discussion? Love and peace to you all!

[@kaloarepo288]

Yes an Islamic Jordan Peterson or an Islamic bishop Shelby Spong.Obviously gets a lot of his ideas from Carl Jung and the whole liberal Protestant tradition but given an Islamic twist.A very entertaining motor mouth however!

[@cindarellaneverland7515]

Are you referring to Mufti Abu Layth?

[@kaloarepo288]

@@cindarellaneverland7515 Yes -of course!

[@cindarellaneverland7515]

I was asking you because recently I am reading C G Jung and I also recognized that mufti got open to his views. I think in it was in december when he even elaborated a little bit about collective consciousness in his Monday live session.

[@2murie]

Mufti Abu Layth is an apologist of epic proportion and in a literal sense. He is basically apologising to everything that mainstream Islam stands for as a justification without actually justifying any claim of Islam and the Quran.

[@jj-yi1ne]

islam doesnt make any claims

[@abdulwahid430]

اک دن مفتی صاحب صراط مستقیم پر اجایں گے

[@Umar_1994_]

he's not a Scholar or Mufti, don't present him as such. He's just another speaker who wants an audience.

[@empress2423]

Yeah such a long and deep chat... I'm going to listen again. Why people "believe" in religions? because in order to believe in science only, in the inductive rationing, people must accept to live in uncertainty, into not having all the answers about the universe /life beginning, past present and future, while religions supply all the deductive answers! In timeline hour 01:35+ "Jews took they Rabbis & priests as lords:. The main point is: is non of Muhammad or his Allah speaking in his head's business, what Jews, do or doesn't do. Judaism is a non missionary group of people, absolutely not into converting people!, who respect other believes. Jews can take cats, a dragon, a unicorn?as a lord, whatever!, is non of anyone business. In timeline hour 01:50+ Mutah temporary marriage on order to allow pre marital sex... what about a father of 7, Nikah Mutah women behind the back of his wife, in order to cheat on her? As is pal Nouman Ali Khan? Aww I forgot: by him humans are not monogamy. Yeah, what about the culture, science, society progressed and advanced as in the western world where he chooses to live, due to the monogamy society, where having sex in addition to the partner, is seen in a negative way? while Polygyny, backward societies in the world? remain them backwards... So Mufti Abu Layth, keep dreaming about sex with multiple women!, or move to some backward society in the Middle East, Africa, etc. In timeline hour 01:59 Pakistani men are Bi sexual? that might/may be right for most of men in the world? and that was common in societies in the iron age, while sex between man (is not clear in the Bible if the prohibition includes oral sex), was prohibited in the Jews Bible. Today? we don't live in such society, so there is no need to ban gays, as they are a small percentage of the population. In Timeline hour 02:08 Muhammad "affiliated" to Jews? He identified which the Jews?? Nope, he obviously was envy of the Jews in timeline hour 02:15 & 02:23 If by his "believe" all people can go to Heaven without being tortured in a Hell before, with no need to convert? then, he is following Judaism, not Islam, not Muhammad. Jews have no problem believing that there is no "special" reward for Jews in Heaven, because by Judaism? all good people go to the same Heaven as the Jews, and no need to convert. We find this reasonable and right. ... and I LOVE we "muslims" refer to the Quran saying " In the times of the Prophet", the only problem is that I cannot find those words on the Quran, a book made, intentionally, with no context of specific time or place

[@scoovadia9452]

Please can we set aside this "muftis" liberal views from the actual Islam. We know that the Islam he follows is not the true reflection of Islam. His liberal views don't change the fact that Islam is what it is.

[@notionSlave]

Huh....? Going against the direct word of Allah? lol...Wtf............???

[@robertcorona5394]

There's just making fun of the Muslim

[@moemohamed8891]

Islam makes fun of itself

[@englishwithmuzammal3596]

This is called, spoof or circus of life - a waste of 5 min... No offense, a personal point of view.

[@dawoodmotara2386]

mate your talking about Allah he knows everything so he knows what the best is for us he gave this knowing it is for the whole world plus Allah does not make mistake no matter even if times have to change Allah gave it in mind of giving it for the whole world till the end of the world yes we cant kill if this is the rule of the land but it is allowed to do the same thing back therefor when people do this they will think about it before they do it because when they do it the same thing will happen to them