14-Year-Old Girl STABS Two Teachers At School | “You Can’t Say Or Do Anything To Kids Anymore”

A teenage girl who stabbed three people at Ysgol Dyffryn Aman warned classmates she would stab a teacher before the attack, a court heard.
The 14-year-old allegedly told another student she might "do something stupid" that could get her expelled. She admitted to stabbing two teachers, Fiona Elias and Liz Hopkin, as well as a pupil, but denies attempted murder during the April 24 incident in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire.
Her father testified in Swansea Crown Court that he didn’t check her bag that morning, even though she had previously been caught with a knife.
Alex Phillips speaks with former MEt police detective superintendent, Shabnam Choudhri.
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[@piecesof9]

Why are people blaming video games and movies? It's 3rd world cultures, not video games.

[@stevestannard6004]

That's right I played Resident Evil and suchlike and I still don't take out flies&creepy crawlies.

[@kylemenos]

Not exactly, it's basically the erosion of community causing this. Everyone is separated by walls both physical and emotional. Broken homes and poor parenting amplify this to the extreme. Frankly, we are missing a core part of society that enforces discipline because positive masculinity has been taken away in favor of sexual freedom. You are right in a way it's just another layer in the onion of crap were in that separates people from shame and punishment by allowing people to exist without the capability of even communicating or abiding any laws because they are unaware of them and nothing is done to change that. You look at America and their people coming in they can't drive yet the government gives them cars and licenses and they crash constantly into buildings and others. Two-tier policies it's almost like if you are unaware of the laws you don't have to follow them if your a foreigner.

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

Ya I grew up on donkey Kong however I don’t run about with a sledge hammer today.

[@AndySmith4501]

@piecesof79 Video games certainly do glamorise and normalise violence and crime. One that springs to mind is grand theft auto, where carjackers are portrayed as heroes. So of course kids think stealing cars is a cool thing to do.

[@gvqf1031]

Это то что немцы называют "insel affe"😊. Островные обезьяны, это про вас англичане.

[@SRTC1perceptions]

Import the third world and get third world behaviours. We didn't worry about knives in schools during the 80s and 90s because carrying a knife was seen as the act of somebody who was weak and too cowardly to fight fairly. We have absorbed backwards ways of behaving through osmosis. Culture matters and ours has been dragged down to the level of tribal warfare imported from abroad because it hasn't been defended one jot for at least quarter of a century. Regular Stabbings in the street are not part of our culture.

[@deano007]

Well said

[@sallyyeomans3456]

Well said & spot on 👌

[@htantijira]

I am sure Scotland had similar issue.

[@DestroyHate.]

United Kingdom is my home 🏠 What did politicians do to my HOME 😖😭😱😢😢😢

[@Haveagodday-w8m]

Karma🤷‍♀️

[@roselewsley4125]

If the British police spend all of their time looking for "hurty words" on FB! How come they are not aware of young people like this ?

[@LenaK-i8r]

Demographics

[@charlesbertram986]

​@@LenaK-i8rZachary!

[@dexine4723]

The police aren't going to know unless the school/parents/social services call them.

[@MelaniaRose]

Good point

[@KatieKat3]

You’d think they would have some way of monitoring social media posting which include weapons in the hands of children and real threats. NOT hurty words!!! When I was in school, the worst things that happened were chewing gum or skipping class.

[@carolyoung5529]

Well on tv it was okay for Muslims to walk about freely with weapons but if someone burglars you're house youre not allowed to use any weapons to hurt the criminals, make it make sense.

[@MediaFXNoosa]

My brother was arrested by police after his house was broke into during the early hours because he chased them out the house and down the road with a bat,

[@Will-re8bt]

​@@MediaFXNoosa he caused alarm and distress 😂 and they wonder why people would rather sort their own problems out.

[@user-Peter78]

It's legal to defend your home even if it becomes fatal, You need to know the rules of the law

[@carolyoung5529]

@@user-Peter78 not yourself it isn't but not allowed to hurt the person bad, its pathetic is government they're need to live in the real world.....all theses elites live in cuckooland the criminals got more rights than the victims has.

[@kaizershozei8720]

Why are you trying to make sense of it???.....

[@elvishprincess321]

If your child is so troubled you have to check their bag for a knife each morning before school maybe you should look deeper into what you may be doing wrong as a parent.

[@jimbo5973]

I agree, but it is also the system permitting these pupils into the main stream. Public education has been turned into a 'human right' to the degredation of those who conform to it. It used to be you were 'offered' a place at school and you' applied' for one. This mentality of everyone must be educated and is entitled to it, is a marxist nonsense. The education system should be provided if you conform to it and therefore withdrawn if you do not meet the standards required. At some point familial and personal responsibility has to be re integrated into the system. We do not pay taxes for blatantly ineffiicient marxist pipe dreams. We no longer operate within realistic, attainable parameters, everything has become idealogical and politicised, flawed ideology I may add.

[@PhilipCooke-j1d]

Fk all why because parents don't bring kids up anymore, why because the tools to punish their kids have been took away from them by the government, instead of grounding your kids for a week or two to there bedroom for doing something they shouldn't of done, they are put on a Naughty Step for 10 minutes, then explain to in a very nice way why they were there and then let off the step, that isn't really a punishment because all the kid learns is I can do something I'm not ment to do and all that will happen is sit on a step and get a ice cream or something no big problem at all, and kids grow up learning from there peers what ever their friends are doing they are also going to do, parents have no control of what they're kids are doing when they are out and about with their friends, and because no one in the community knows or are even bothered about what other people kids are doing anymore unlike back in the 80s 90s where everyone knew each other and if we did something wrong we knew someone would see us who knows our parents and we knew they would take us to our parents, and we knew we would get a good telling off smacked and grounded for a week to our bedroom with nothing in it to kept us busy, this is how we as kids learn their was Consequences to our actions that we really didn't want to happen to us this is what kept us in check, now kids have know respect for there parents because they don't fear what they will do to them and this gives them the go ahead to disrespect everyone and it makes them feel in power that they can do what ever they want this all started when parents wasn't allowed to disaplin their kids properly and now kids are out of control it's maid bad kids worse and good kids feel they have to protect them self's the best way they can because they are the one's who have to deal with these bad kids that nothing really happens to them if you tell on them infact it causes more problems for you if they find out it was you that told on them so they say nothing it's really simple and when I was a kid I was good as gold around my parents but once out of their sight I was doing all sorts of things I wouldn't dream of doing round my parents because I knew I would be in big trouble and grounded for a week maybe longer depending on what I was court doing it's simple facts the government should have stayed out of the home yes there was parents who abuse their kids no matter if they was good or not and them people are still around today the government didn't stop them kids from being abuse the only thing they stop was good parents from punishing their kids when they did something wrong and now we have what we have now we didn't have this problem in the 80s 90s because our parents could smack us and ground us to punish us properly for doing things we shouldn't be doing so no parents are not to blame for the way they kids are today it's the government fault because they took away the parents power and the things kids are being taught in school now compared to back in the 80s 90s is so depressing and un real they wonder why so many kids have mental health problems and take their own life and that's because they are being brainwashed in to believing things that isn't reality kids are more confused about life more then we ever was they are being told they are something they ain't and if they go against it then they are the problem and this is what caused kids and teenagers to have mental health issues and why more and more teenagers are taking their own lifes if not others lives I feel so sorry for them because they shouldn't be put through all this bs in school leave kids alone they don't need to be learning about gay people in school they need to learn how to read write and count add up take away and all that and this country they are in history and the history of every other country in the world so they know no country on this earth has a good history every country has done really bad things to other countries and teach them why they did these bad thing what happened for them to do these things the ins and outs of it so when it comes to the country they was born in to and sre apart of their understanding how and why we are the way we are in this world then they won't be self destructive to their own country and people because they understand their isn't any country that has done more for the human race then there country and how to make it in life and be happy with who they are in this world and not to let anyone bring them down no matter what colour they are because they are all British people it's not fking hard to do and bring back smacking your kids not abusing them just punishing them for doing something wrong so they fking learn and learn fast then most the bs we see happening now we wouldn't be seeing happen kids and teenagers will be much happier in life.

[@Yeahyeah-r7p]

They probably stash them outside somewhere, kids can be very sly.

[@bbuzz1687]

They are the reult of poor parenting.

[@maryannehibbard5686]

Forget what you've done wrong as a parent (for the moment) - that damage is done. The question is what to DO now? What expert help can you enlist? Can the authorities help? Counseling? In- house hospitalization? Something!!!

[@soosoobear]

I was brought up in the 60's in a one parent family , did i become violent NO , did i commit crime NO . Something very wrong in todays kids .

[@markslist5165]

It IS related to the destruction of the mother/father healthy parental family.

[@marylauder3374]

Lack of discipline in homes and schools.

[@soosoobear]

@@marylauder3374 teachers frightened of kids , ridiculous

[@andrewjackson2843]

I know what you mean, something very wrong. My neighbors kids tried to kill eachother a few months ago, boys in their late teens. One tried stabbing the other to death over something very stupid like video games. Back when I was their age 20 years ago, we just got in fistfights. Weapons are for whimps that can't fight. Now it seems like most kids go for a weapon first, it's pathetic..coward generation.

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

@@andrewjackson2843I swear at 12 my top crime would have been pulling hair or maybe saying a bad word. Something like that. I still thought boys were gross at 12! Girls today have babies at 12. Different world entirely

[@wernethblue7228]

There are no consequences.

[@ddoherty5956]

Yeah and no fathers to make consequences unnecessary.

[@madness-i3j]

"These stories are coming thick and fast". What else is coming thick and fast?

[@gillps5130]

1400 is last 48 hours.

[@madness-i3j]

@@gillps5130 Exactly. Whether legally or illegally, they're invading thick and fast. Western governments have destroyed their countries within a generation.

[@LenaK-i8r]

Low skill, low iq, low restraint, low empathy, low morals.

[@smillatt2]

Scary ​@@gillps5130

[@mattAKB48]

Not the Britain I was born in. I'm a male, late 40s and also couldn't kill an insect, I step over snails on the ground, yet today's youth seem to be lacking remorse, feelings, empathy,etc. I was bullied and attacked but never to this extent. This sadly is the norm now, as the people that could make changes, JUST DON'T CARE, CHILDREN, ELDERLY etc.

[@kbdkbd99]

sorry to hear about the bullying - despite that you became a compassionate and valuable person. good comment.

[@EndIslam4ever]

These aren't British born and bred children

[@katiebates6134]

Kids have been mechanized. Plain and simple. Empty of empathy.😔

[@kbdkbd99]

@@katiebates6134 you're right karie, they've been badly let down.

[@davidloughlin2238]

I am mid 60s and was brought up in a world where parents and teachers were probably the most important people in our lives. Our parents took their job very seriously and so did our teachers, we lived in a structured world where adults were in charge and there was discipline. It was a nice world, we had a lot of fun, we enjoyed learning, and all of our sources of amusement were wholesome. I too developed into an adult without an aggressive bone in my body, I have a hatred of violence.

[@SueCurwen]

Bring back Borstal. Stop tapping their hand & saying there there. They need boundaries!

[@elizabethanthony3916]

👍👏👏👏👏👏

[@theoldoakvideos]

stop the invasion

[@Wakeywakey-j2b]

And the birch.

[@SueCurwen]

@@Wakeywakey-j2b That's a bit harsh wakey, ...... maybe for some orders who have done something terrible in the name of their 'faith' ! I'm afraid I'm not a death penalty believer, BUT there should be consequences for actions taken!

[@clifftonicstudios7469]

Wheres ya tool ?

[@keithtpc1508]

The problem is the total lack of discipline in schools from the outset. This never used to happen when we hade discipline in our schools.

[@parker-ii7fg]

It all started with Thatcher abolishing corporal punishment in 1986.

[@Souxie123]

@@parker-ii7fgyou’re not allowed to hit anyone, especially kids. Violence over kids will only learn them violence. Either making them lifelong victims or lifelong perpetrators. Proper education is def not about violence but limits.

[@areyoustupid.....]

​@parker-ii7fg ....every government since has enabled more bad behaviour. More governemnt control over parents. More corporate media, music, social media, music and films to fill our kids with insane ideas and parents are banned from disciplined

[@SamuelBlack84]

My dad used to get the cane in the 60s

[@peterjarmesty1884]

Discipline in home and school is lacking!

[@janiegreen5200]

Lack of parenting, lack of dicipline in the home and school, lack of shame for doing wrong

[@private7668]

Its so depressing, things like this never happened when I was at school.

[@PeterEvans-dw2ol]

There is no discipline anymore. You are not allowed to do or say anything to kids. When I was young you would be afraid if you saw the local cop if you had done something wrong you would get a clip round the ear and you wouldn't tell your parents cos you would get another one. I would hate to be a teacher today they are at the mercy of these so called kids

[@germainefisher1632]

Teachers dare not upset the children by raising a voice or the parents would be in complaining or worse.

[@cultfiction3865]

That's how it is. We were afraid of teachers as kids cos they could rip our hides up for behaving badly at school and if we told our parents, also get a few cracks from them and sent to bed. These days there is just nothing when it comes to discipline. Kids have nothing to fear. Even youth detention is an absolute holiday camp

[@ken-r8y]

Ethnicity and religion?

[@allseeingotto2912]

Take a guess

[@redMaple_QC]

You are such a racist 😉

[@dexine4723]

In the Ammanford case, white Welsh, in a very white Welsh town.

[@MotherHen2012]

@@allseeingotto2912 Well, no-one knows for sure so its all guess work.

[@kelrogers8480]

​@@dexine4723that's a surprise. And I bet the BBC made absolutely sure everyone knew those details!

[@PandorasDelight]

You want to be a BIG BOY, then take the same punishment, and parents should be charged with assisted crime by not teaching their kids wright from wrong

[@DestroyHate.]

Absolutely, parents used to be responsible for their children, and their behaviour

[@cultfiction3865]

There are instances where parents have done their best but they just have kids with behavior challenges or psychopathic traits. So it's not the parents we can always blame. Although more often, the weak parenting so common today heavily contributes to the frequency of these terrible behaviors

[@socialmediaisterrible]

Sorry but no. I have a step child now grown up and in jail. I never once committed a crime and tried everything i could including professional help. Some kids are just going to go off the rails

[@Will-re8bt]

Right from wrong? They are teaching them boys can be girls how about charging the teachers?

[@socialmediaisterrible]

@@PandorasDelight i will also point out its RIGHT not WRIGHT.... should we charge your parents with your bad spelling?

[@retroguy5984]

I have a business and Kids will sometimes steal the A board or smash the cafe chairs outside, what can we do as adults to a 14 year old who does these tihngs? nothing, we pay for it, this makes us want to quit the business as we feel helpless, the issue is there is ZERO consiquesnces for crime in the UK if its vandalism or theft. so why would they not carry on doing it. if there were serious consiquesnces to these crimes they wouldnt do it. but saying hurty words is apparently worse than theft and vandalism and potenitially shutting down local businesses.

[@trayreipond5935]

So does starmer but he's so ANTI British it's off the scale

[@DavidMeikle-ei7fr]

The lack of respect and anger amongst some children is frightening. How did they reach that so early in their lives ?

[@Karlemids]

so Chaudhri thinks its about Kudos? or is just saying that to dumb down her audience. and its not the same across all communities. its a certain demographic mostly doing it and influencing others to do the same

[@judithcressey1682]

Her and her simplistic explanation are indicative of the lack of cohesive structure and breakdown of our society and culture. The turmoil that surrounds our children, God help them.

[@MotherHen2012]

The area where this happened is a mostly white area.

[@earthling-fh2mg]

This woman seems to have no clue. She doesn’t seem to understand what Alex is getting at. This is not just “poor neighbourhoods”. I was brought up in a poor neighbourhood in the 60s and 70s. Sure there would be fights and bullying but, my god, no kid that I know or knew, ever pulled a knife nevermind stab people. This is insane.

[@anthonyroe1966]

typical leftie thats why , who seems to think that all crime etc is caused by peer pressure and familys kids coming from a poor background , thats nonsense its because you cant touch or disapline your own children legally and just good damn poor parenting , basically the parents are wronguns as well the problem is staring you in the face ,

[@junehope5152]

I left teaching as a teaching assistant two weeks ago I was being assaulted regularly

[@Ventibreeze123]

Honestly I don’t blame you, look after yourself first, kids have changed these days and it’s frightening 😢

[@suzannehaigh4281]

I left teaching as a teacher because of the appalling behaviour and their is nothing teachers can do.

[@linzianderton2090]

I left too after 17 years....first ten years loved it but discipline became non existent after that, no consequences for anything at all, the rubbish the children were being indoctrinated with so young, non existent parenting (not a poor area) children starting school unable to speak in sentences, unable to dress themselves, not toilet trained, no concept of what "no" means etc etc etc. Was glad to get out

[@rebeccaredhead7144]

I'm glad you're all putting your safety and health first

[@jamiemohan2049]

I left teaching, too. Wasn't assaulted yet, but the kids know they can do and say anything. The principal and deputy principals hated me reporting bad behaviour. I got the vibe they thought I was being too much or something. Swept everything under the carpet and was told 'girls will be girls'.

[@rayclarke9959]

When I was at school we got the cane and teachers were more respected back then,

[@SeanPittaway-lb9bg]

When I was at school the cane was not allowed but respect and fear of the teachers was still there so you don't have to hit kids and you shouldn't but something has changed in the 30 years since I've been at school because this never used to happen.

[@peteredan7352]

Spare the rod, spoil the child. We've lost our moral compass.

[@time4advancement244]

Yes, your lil country sure has

[@Jack-c2d8w]

That's what Jimmy Savile's mother, "The Duchess" said when referring to his upbringing 🤔 Not sure harsh corporal discipline is the best method for bringing up a child. Love, compassion and attention is the priority. This dysfunction arises out of neglect. But yes, obviously discipline is important

[@jpw6893]

And we are lucky, look at America.

[@autoclearanceuk7191]

the opposite is correct

[@dinaworkman306]

True, children rule, but theycare weak and have mental problems.

[@anthonybird3006]

So glad they didnt mention the elephant.

[@nickcoppard5335]

Did someone stab an elephant ?

[@gelbsucht947]

@@nickcoppard5335no, because the elephant was a gang member who carried a machete.

[@redhen2123]

Because the elephant has different heredity and genes

[@pkkerley6028]

The elephant that arrived in a bath tub ?

[@DavesGarden1714]

Whats happenning to our country violent crime is out of control and very worryingly is the young age of the people committing these crimes

[@crisdeeming2758]

Gimmigration.

[@germainefisher1632]

ECHR happened, unrestricted immigration legal and illegal happened. Politicians not giving a toss about the citizens of the UK happened.

[@darrents44]

Even back in the 80s with knife culture in a rough area, you wouldn't dare even disrespect a teacher.. Once though, a kid in my class hit a teacher, and he got such a beating for it.. Never did it again.. not saying it was right but he never dissed the teacher again.

[@crystalabel8976]

Well, to start no one‘s at home. If you do have two parents, they need to both be working. Everything is off-balance, from growing up in a house from having a parent at home , from having parents together. Society, social norms. All gone, and this is the result. Madness, anger, destruction, a breakdown of a society. Kids are lost as are the adults. Very sad.

[@carolewynn9407]

No excuse, I was a single parent of 3 ( husband died) worked 2 jobs, eldest when 13 looked after the youngest two, making sure they had their dinner( slow cooker ) and did their homework, none of them carried a knife, were violent or anything else. A parent should be supportive, loving but makes the rules, not there to be their "mates".

[@SamuelBlack84]

In some ways, I'm relieved my niece was taken out of school because she was bullied But it isn't a good thing in the long run

[@hugolindum7728]

Both parents working when the child is under 7 is part of the problem. Giving a small child to a surrogate mother for most of its waking day leads to a break in the bond between mother and child, and problems down the road.

[@suzannehaigh4281]

Both my parents had to work, I basically could do as I pleased at the age of 12, even stay out late, never anything said. BUT I came from as home where we simply learned right from wrong and always knew how to behave from being young

[@mysticjen379]

💯 There’s a widespread moral decline due to a lack of character.

[@ipohtennischannel5482]

She's probably been building up to this for years. Here's how it worked when I was a teacher in the UK... Very young, very poorly behaved primary school children quickly work out they can do as they like, and nobody can stop them. Over the years, they develop and practice their disruptive behavior to see what they can get away with. There are no limits. If only to be allowed to teach the rest of the kids, teachers will try all sorts of time-consuming strategies to curb the bad behavior. But the disruptive child knows these efforts will be doomed to failure, and they will eventually be 'permanently excluded' from school. The child also knows his or her parents will appeal the exclusion, because they are guaranteed success. The child will then return to school triumphant, and the entire debacle will start all over again.

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

she was probably just welsh

[@dexine4723]

... And eventually, the child does something bad enough to get the police involved, but they are then treated with kid gloves, with everything catering to their 'vulnerabilities' and seldom any real consequences, even for quite serious offences. After a couple of times in police custody, kids are blase, because being arrested or put before the court is no longer alarming, and has become merely a badge of honour. Behaviour often escalates, and suddenly they are adults, being told 'no' for the first time in their lives and facing adult punishments, with their future lives already curtailed by their criminal record. The coddling has gone too far, and none of it does them any favours in the long run.

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

i see my comment referring to the girl's behaviour due to her "welshness" was removed by youtube censors which clearly don't understand the subtle nuances of the english language, nor the english humour.

[@ipohtennischannel5482]

@@dexine4723 There's a point here few people will see. Let's say a very disruptive child remains in the same primary school from Reception to the end of Year Six. This means an entire cohort of children will have their learning experience marred throughout the primary years. For this group of children, there's a price to pay in terms of academic attainment. This is because everything about the quality of teaching and learning is dictated by the behavior of the disruptive child. As you point out, very early on the disruptive child will be labelled as the victim. This is the 'get out clause' exploited by the leadership of education authorities.

[@robinburn4974]

The police needs to be a force not a pathetic "service" start stop and search and earn your wages

[@susanaschwab5552]

The parents should be charge

[@RGerman07]

Time to wake up! The truth is slipping away from society.

[@Compliment_Thief]

What was the background of the perpetrator?

[@ninabaker6829]

Take a wild guess. Usual low life

[@jillharding2991]

The parents must also be charged with bad parenting.

[@Themis33]

Schools these days literally promote the ethos of 'praise good behaviour, and Ignore bad'. No, don't ignore bad. Punish bad. Just like back in the day.

[@johnnewbold3225]

Its because we deleted discipline and decided that in stead of old fashioned punishment we wil use reasoning. We have discovered that bad people and children are not well known for being reasonable.

[@tracydavies-tk3lm]

There is are no PRU units in Swansea in Wales, anymore, they stopped them, due to funding and decided that those pupils have to be incorporated into schools without more funding. I was training and doing volunteering when this started. It was causing massive problems. Half the police time was spent dealing with kids, beating up other pupils and filming it. Then the parents were getting involved as well, bullying the kid that was beaten up on social media. Police in Swansea have actually taken these issues forward in Swansea with both parents and adults. I've called out myself to parents, you have to be really thick skinned though to be able to take everything thrown at you, when you work with kids from disruptive backbrounds. The kids then actually really respect you because you care about by putting in boundaries. I be met some really bad teAchers and support staff who are too soft to be in schools to be honest. If you cannot control a classroom or gain respect that his can you teach effectively. Yes, terrible parenting is unfortunately bringing down the education system. Case in point, mum who went on hold to spain?? When 11 year old was in court for rioting!

[@mariemackie8887]

My friend's daughter was a lose cannon,her mother asked everyone for help,non given her daughter took a knife into school,she was found out and taken into care,all this could of been avoided if someone had listened to the parents

[@jimbo5973]

Discipline in schools is largely impossible due to beaurecratic 'liberalism' and lawyers, as well as bad parents. There are many pupils who years ago would have been assessed and then sent to a 'special school', to cater for their needs, instead of lowering the standards alongside the disruption of the majority of the main stream. Our teachers are largely powerless even if they were inclined to intervene, they are sitting ducks to an extent. Welcome to the self righteous, libernazi future! I heard about these issues decades ago in Europe, now they are here. A mentality that is destroying our institutions from the inside. Equity combined with the death of meritocracy, resulting in far more damage than you would initally assume. Standards were there for a reason.

[@theukeconomist6518]

Can somebody explain why we don't see this type of behaviour at a high rate with kids who are privately educated?

[@lks6248]

Because they don’t suffer multiple deprivations

[@Ventibreeze123]

@@lks6248 There are lot of kids that are economically deprived but they don’t become violent and stab.

[@cultfiction3865]

Cos they are better educated and can use intelligence.

[@stevekent3991]

You are kidding yourself if you think private school kids don’t carry knives.

[@jamiemohan2049]

Cause they don't glorify scumbag culture. Posh kids glorify poshness. Average kids are glorifying scumbags these days.

[@AZKenReid]

These people are everywhere now not just in schools. In the gym if you accidentally make eye contact with a young person they consider it a form of violence.

[@msjibberjabberhodge]

This is obviously awful but I have no doubt it's more common nowadays, but even when I was in a British High School in 1998 there was a girl in my year group who was also known to carry a knife and it was exactly as they described; so no-one would mess with her, and no-one did. She did get expelled for pulling the knife out during Science class and threatening a male teacher with it. Fortunately she didn't actually use it, but honestly, as a pupil at the time, the entire thing was treated as kind of an urban legend and was entertainment at the school. The girl who got expelled did get a name for herself in the community, which was exactly what she wanted. I would say that the threat of violence was always present in a typical British High School (although usually between the students and not involving the teachers), but when I was growing up, it was rarely carried out and even if it was, it would be punches and kicks rather than weapons. So sad to see this becoming so normalised though 😢

[@SamuelBlack84]

I went to school in the same era and the worst a kid did to disrupt the class was asking what a certain feminine battery opetated device was I was bullied but I had nothing like this

[@cultfiction3865]

I was in high school back then but when we got into fights, which we did, it never crossed our minds that a blade would get pulled. Nobody was that cowardly back then. But with todays kids you couldn't have that confidence

[@Galerak1]

Unpopular opinion but this all began from the time parents were prevented from disciplining their children. When kids grow up knowing the can do whatever they want and get away with it this is where we end up.

[@stevenmcgowan3205]

Immigrant kid 👍..... your welcome.

[@dexine4723]

Not in the Ammanford case. She's an ordinary white kid from a 99% white town.

[@sarahharris2729]

is this true?!

[@stevenmcgowan3205]

Yep....

[@barryrice7647]

Funny how this got worse when they said you can no long smack or punish a child, eve with a light tap, they do what they want now knowing you can do and say nothing.

[@cultfiction3865]

Exactly it's when the downturn happened

[@ianbeale2527]

Back in the 80's as a school kid I had several knives. Usually penknives, but when "First Blood" came out, I got my hands on a "Rambo" style knife - with a serrated edge on top of the blade and a compass on the top that screwed off to reveal a "survival kit". Yes, it was big and imposing. But not once did I ever think about turning it on anybody, not even when I had it on my while I was being bullied ! The trouble is, these days there is no deterrent any more. There's no discipline and there's also no accountability or moral compass either.

[@shegs7717]

My Grandad gave me my first penknife for my first day at infants, kept it in my pencil case, used daily for sharpening my pencils. Most kids had penknives in those days, never heard of any stabbings though and fights were rare anyway. I think this culture has just been imported.

[@cherylsmith8274]

It's incredible how we expect kids or the youth to be well behaved without any discipline, teachers aren't even supposed to raise their voice to kids incase it hurts their feelings. Kids need to understand discipline and consequences of their actions. This won't end well.

[@johnnyhock]

Bad parenting, pure & simple Kids are spoiled, no discipline, no boundaries any more

[@EndIslam4ever]

These aren't English kids

[@AJ-hi9fd]

This is more than bad parenting. There must be other influences here.

[@allseeingotto2912]

Genetics

[@ennbee2051]

Woah woah! Watch it, son watch it. Boundaries. Boun... Respect. Ohhw.

[@fifisuki1876]

Do these 'children' think the person will stand up and walk away, like in the films?

[@2000globetrotter]

It's about time parents were prosecuted as well in cases like these. In the USA, parents neglect of their childrens' bad behaviour can be prosecuted as child endangerment. I'm not saying that the USA is any kind of shining example to be followed, but if parents KNEW that they could be made personally liable for their childrens crimes and misdemeanours, they might actually pay attention to what the children are doing.

[@jenlong8568]

Interesting thought

[@simon40ify]

Unfortunately it's been like this for years,and is getting worse,just makes u wonder what the parents are like,who allow their kids to do this,they should beheld accountable too.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Please, its children not kids. Discipline and social media parents need to take away the phone and computers. No mobile devices at school

[@Steve-ho4xb]

When it comes to serious crimes like this, there should be no media black out

[@lizflitflop3906]

Lack of discipline, lack of empathy. Detached from human emotion and feral.

[@TheOwlsarewatching606]

no discussion of parent/s should be imprisoned as well as "child"

[@elizabethsmith8609]

Ive known plenty parents who do their best by their kids but all the time you punish the parent and not the child it will contine to have ..kids know its not them but the parents who pay the price and they DONT CARE

[@glennhopkins2643]

Disturbing

[@k711efl]

Name them!

[@Geraden]

Nowadays we’ll be putting the good kids into a special school to ensure that they’ll be educated properly. It’s a shame for the children that want to learn, it must be practically impossible in such a situation. When I was young the unruly kids were separate and the others could get a good quality education. Sad times we’re in.

[@duncansmith7562]

If only Putin could be UK PM. This nonsense would end next week.

[@primafacie6442]

Having watched Tucker Carlson’s interview and video of the clean, safe Moscow underground I’m inclined to strongly agree.

[@duncansmith7562]

@@primafacie6442 it is a very humbling defeat for the West to see the orderly and cohesive, identitarian way of life in Russia that the West has lost

[@redhen2123]

That's because Marxist Critical Theory was aimed at the West. Same with every other current and former Commie country, not just Russia.

[@leelhasa6294]

Or maybe a leader that was strong on our country and its values but equally not prone to invade democracies and march untold numbers of his own people to their deaths? So somewhere between a corporate globalist and a mad tyrant that threatens to nuke the world every five minutes? Perhaps?

[@gvqf1031]

​@@duncansmith7562не драматизируйте так.

[@dilwich]

Everybody knows why . . . .

[@evagandarra4013]

Makes " tell me why I dont like Mondays " look tame.

[@paulpolhill726]

Alex is an AMAZING WOMAN BRAVE STRAIGHT TALKER 🇬🇧💙

[@rogeralsop3479]

Unbelievable.

[@RobertSpivey-m4e]

Still proving it's not guns as the problem. No guns resort to knives. Problem is mental health. Wake up people.

[@skruffs1537]

Who is this girl? why did she do this? We live in a dangerous time in the UK when children see this as their only option.

[@Awakenotwoke-lf3ej]

My goodness, you certainly have it bad in Englandstan 🇬🇧

[@Cepheidvariable]

My wife is unfortunately a teacher. I don't know how she does it. It is horrifying.

[@kirannnnnn]

Resign

[@redset11]

Teachers today do not get any support when dealing with the bad behaviour of many of their students. These dangerous feral kids are not allowed to be excluded or expelled as they would have been a few decades ago.

[@cookiemonster2299]

Strange, i thought it was illegal to carry a knife? Maybe they should make it against the law to break the law. 🤷🙄

[@theoldoakvideos]

theyre not like us

[@suzannefok]

Disgusting. Not the England I visited 20 years ago. 😡

[@Compuscience-Python-Prog-Exps]

I'm in absolute SHOCK!!

[@johncorrall1739]

I'm disgusted,horrified, and appalled. I'm not shocked.

[@raymondweller1430]

We are well on our way to being a third world country, WATCH THIS SPACE!!!

[@carolgoshaw290]

Theyre desensitized

[@marionjames4986]

Seems generations have devolved and have become a generation of psychopaths!

[@GES196]

Does anyone out there think that violent video games normalize violent behaviour in kids ? I was amazed to see the level of violence in some of these games, absolutely horrific. or is it just me ?

[@JosephSeibert-d8e]

If games etc caused it then it wouldn't be minorities doing the majority of it.

[@BigMama61]

Many children and teenagers watch violent horror films and grow up Normal you have to be disturbed in the first place to act on these films I'm sure Jack the Riper didn't watch any horror films or games people like that have it in them from the start

[@sandjune2753]

It's lack of discipline since kinder garden. letting kids scream and shout being rude. Oh let them culture. No disapline, no respect for others simple. Kids need boundaries that's how they learn. This all stopped in the millennium. Big big mistake.

[@helendancelot]

Is this actually a girl or could it be a trans identified male?

[@russky68]

Complete Ferrel… & no deterrent to this whatsoever..just no boundaries or education of right & wrong.. Bonkers…anything goes in this society..🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️😔

[@annearly3200]

Off topic. In Minnesota Duty to retreat from your attackers, you are not allowed to show a weapon to scare them off. Many victims have been killed running away from their attackers due to tripping, not fast enough

[@jennysevarino6104]

I don't understand that parents can even send their children to school when the society in England are dominated by crime,

[@tinasmith235]

Name and shame ...why bother reporting on these issues when nothing is ever done ..pointless

[@SueCarr-q8n]

Terrifying

[@sandrawilks6783]

In the USA there is now precedent and parents have been charged & jailed as they were aware of their child carrying gun & killed fellow students I believe a mother who bought into her daughters bullying & other child committed suicide has also been jailed Time for accountability by parents Police & justice system need to ensure lengthy jail time & no parole for these offenders

[@Lez325]

Cannot be named- why on earth not???? its an animal not a person in my book

[@joeblackp687]

I used to teach kids with special educational needs, when the child is taken on you get a file with all relevant information in it from medical episodes to social worker reports, my bosses would not let me or the other teachers access to these files or even discuss what were in the files keeping us totally in the dark. One day one of our educators was assaulted with a chair over the head. We all refused to take on any new students without access to the files from that day forward.

[@disclosed2229]

Lack of discipline pure and simple, it was bad enough last generation but now we have undisciplined parents bringing up kids without boundaries whatsoever, ..

[@ennbee2051]

There's no boundaries or respect anymore. Now, sometimes you need to respect people's boundaries.

[@kathrynhobbs8874]

As an ex teacher….security loops at the entrance to school……one entrance, no back door, no windows to pass it through

[@jgcelliott1]

The reason that knives weren't a problem in days past was that everyone understood that the punishment for misbehavior with them would be extreme. .

[@valeriecherylirving4048]

In the USA some states are now prosecuting the parents when their kid commits horrific crimes .. I think somthing along those lines needs be looked at here in the uk ..

[@Levi-RoseWilletts4828]

Harrowing

[@daveelp1085]

Parents should also be charged: An accessory after the fact is often not considered an accomplice but is treated as a separate offender. Such an offender is one who harbours, protects, or assists a person who has already committed an offense or is charged with committing an offense.

[@elaineharris2682]

old enough to commit the crime- old enough to be named and do time

[@petergurry9652]

Remigration

[@doglifehub]

The one who stabbed the two teachers was near me. It was my old school. If it's coming to a small town like this, it can happen anywhere.

[@iap-ug3oy]

What is happening to our once proud country..Parents need to get control of these little monsters they are raising..Most parents today are a total disgrace and of course many of these children have no fathers in the home. But these brats away for life….

[@london9372]

Ever listened to most of the UK rap & drill tracks the kids listen to these days - boasting about 'chinging' people, zombie knives etc... look at their videos, gangs with balaclavas boasting about all this stuff readily available on KZbin & social media platforms. That's where it stemmed from without a question of a doubt! When I was young we were into raving & wearing smiley faces on our clothes, the music was all about love, everyone on the dance floor having a great time. Then Grime & Drill music hit, full of violence, boasting about it all, glamorising gangs & knife carrying - why is it even a question??!! IT'S JUST BLOODY OBVIOUS & something that that policewoman won't admit... British films & tv series however well written & acted they are just simply glorify, in kids eyes, this behaviour - Blue Story, Top Boy any age group can watch them because they're now streamed into their homes & watched by kids on their lap tops... No age guidance stops them looking at it full of their favourite, chart topping rap artists... This most definitely has not helped this growing heinous situation...

[@karenbolton9526]

None of this is very English behaviour

[@CliveSimmons-b9b]

Whilst not typical, it is horrendous and it is the trend ie knives in school. There is likely a wider context that began around the end of the 80s beginning with the woke banning competition, then student entitlement when teacher's had to be far more careful or have their careers ended, leading to limited teacher authority, then limited parental support for teachers, leading to increased need for verbal strictness and harsher school rules to compensate for losing any physical control, making the teacher/student gap widen, then gang culture imported from abroad, then drugs and knives prevalent in schools imported from abroad, and now behaviour plummeting, to quote the BBC on that "[from a teacher] behaviour was a "never-ending battle". Another said spitting, swearing and chair-throwing were among the things happening often.". Throw in other factors such as the pressures students are under with social media, worsening mental health, far higher rate of SEN designations rightly or wrongly, lack of responsibility, falling attention spans, schools judged by results leading to the focus on exam delivery rather than real skills, the loss of curiosity, exploration and fun, class sizes on the rise and education minister after education minister unable to pay it more than lip service. Anyway, horrendous situation, very sad.

[@nigelwatson8141]

These people live sheltered lives. I'm over 60yr old,and I know for a fact kids in my day carried knives, sewn into their jackets. It's nothing new. Only thing new is the social media we're they can become infamous.