"It Amounts To Deception!" | NHS Staff LAUGH At A&E Patient's 46-Hour Wait

Staff at Royal Shewsbury Hospital have come under fire after they were caught on film laughing about how they weren't hitting targets after they admitted one of their patients had already waited 46 hours for care.
Former NHS Chairman, Roy Lilley explains to Talk's Kevin O'Sullivan that even though the laughing may be seen as "black humour" by some people, staff should not be doing it. He says: "It's disgusting."
Kevin says: "You go in with a broken leg, you want to be seen a bit quicker than that."
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[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Open borders and an NHS is laughable.

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

Open borders and a welfare state cannot co-exist. It has to be one or the other.

[@sparrow_6177]

Having both is just not possible and I cannot understand why people can't see that.

[@Leoviliti1]

Three quarters of my local hospital emergency waiting area was crowded with middle easterners last week as I walking through that area for an x-ray . I couldn't agree more.

[@junky360]

​@@Leoviliti1 just because your garden is flat doesn't mean the world is.

[@zeroounce8874]

😂😂😂 on purpose

[@pheart2381]

We send billions of £s to foreign countries,but cant care for our own people. The solution is right there.

[@azillliasmith2734]

This ...

[@elizabethsamson5591]

Foreign aid needs to be stopped-until we work out how it can be used by our people.Only, if there is any left, only then should our tax payers money go to other countries.

[@zeroounce8874]

You mean… sent £s to foreign countries and that’s how laundering money works…through charities and wars. Please educate yourselves people. 101 laundering. Those countries don’t see that money…. So you can stop crying.

[@zeroounce8874]

@@elizabethsamson5591😂😂😂

[@martinlunn2994]

I worked in the care sector for years I ran a domicillary care agency and was a manager of one of the top homes for ppl with dementia. I left why? All I saw was government cut backs to social care . And don't get met started on the private sector that rips families off!. The nhs needs a complete overhaul get rid of the top heavy management system, the diversity officers and get back to basics "caring for people!"

[@veryhappychappy12]

Could not agree more Sir.

[@janyb1907]

I'm a holistic massage/reiki therapist and am considering doing caring as I also have experience in this sector. I am sad to see how this profession has deteriorated.The foreign cares don't appear to be doing the job properly and are very likely not trained in caring.

[@martinlunn2994]

@@janyb1907 my advice is don’t! Care staff in this country do an amazing job. But it’s long hours and very little “thank you’s” plus normally it’s minimum wage! They do a tremendous job but are undervalued and that’s such a shame. I always argued that carers should have a “pin” number and be trained and paid appropriately. But obviously corporations and profits are more important than lives

[@user-qh8nh7oe6d]

Completely agree with you. I was an NHS nurse, and last few years worked in nursing homes. Basic care has gone, it is shameful.

[@christinefiedor3518]

@@janyb1907 totally agree. It’s well known that overseas quals are not always comparable. Training is not international and competences gained should be carefully cross referenced to maintain standards. But even a baseline vocational quals is not mandatory and it is up to the employer who they take on. The elderly and people with disabilities deserve to be supported by workers with the appropriate skills and knowledge which are completely underestimated in my view , especially as more and more people are living with complex care needs.

[@annieevans]

If you have nearly 1000 people a day coming into the country, no wonder the NHS is overwhelmed. 27.000 people across the channel to date THIS YEAR.

[@Galerak1]

Your maths doesn't add up. It's currently 26th June, that's day 178 of 2024. At 1000 people per day that would equate to 178,000 immigrants, but you also state 27,000 have crossed the channel which only brings the daily average to around 151.7 I'm all for stopping the boats but using inflated figures to drive a point home doesn't make your argument remotely believable.

[@sparrow_6177]

Exactly but they are always brushing that off. It's not rocket science yet these bigoted politicians think they are so clever but cant do the maths. If you had a cake to share around 8 at a party but 28 turned up, there would not be enough to go around, how do they not get it??? Another thing which peeves me is look at the amount of money they have (sunak for one) yet they too, use the NHS...... I bet they don't have to wait for treatment or have long waiting time either. With that sort of money, they could pay for their healthcare after all, it is them encouraging migrants to come here. Illegal or not.

[@rikimarco1826]

@@Galerak1 Also, take into account the 750,000 net legal arrivals last year - that's about 2,000 a day. Either way - the maths do not add up for the NHS.

[@tinaari88]

It’s more than that, they even lie about the numbers 😡😡🐀😡🐀

[@number8533]

Who also haven’t paid a penny towards the pot. People come over here to HAVE operations! It’s a joke

[@rattyfan3594]

I bet illegal immigrants don't have to wait!

[@SanityBob]

Obviously not, they get a BUPA voucher and keys to a Maserati, with £7k cash the second they climb out a their dingy You effing prick

[@andrearoyd2942]

O f course not it will be their humanrights, meanwhile we we are polite, queue and wait our turn. Yes we should help people in need, but 800 in one day, .....

[@jeffthomas2364]

Don’t talk such BS.

[@betty-boo9821]

What?

[@susangarbutt7189]

No they dont have to wait they have there own doctors dentists and nurses at the hotels.

[@TwistedTiara]

My daughter, 7 months pregnant, already had a collapsed lung 8 years ago, coughing up clumps of blood was made to wait for 8 hours, she was given a bed but went outside for air as she was feeling sick and her bed was given to someone else, she had to stand for ages as all the seats were taken as well, there must have been at least 150 people waiting to be seen, absolutely disgusting. The NHS needs to be stripped from the top all the way down, get rid of the DEI shite and the woke/trans crap as well, it's a friggin joke and we pay for this terrible service, if this was a different business it would have been shut down. Make foreigners pay for their treatment and stop illegals abusing it also, giving them free dental care when I've been kicked out my dentist after 50 years being there.

[@carolfletcher2601]

Totally agree

[@nan3271]

I'm going to Europe to get my teeth fixed!

[@TwistedTiara]

@@nan3271 I was thinking the same thing hun

[@robdee9341]

That's shameful Tiara. Hope she is OK..

[@TwistedTiara]

@@robdee9341 She is now thanks but it was unreal, they didn't even have the operation she had on her lung on file, apparently the details about the op were with another health care company not the NHS.

[@dianelopes8199]

put our tax money into our hospitals ,and stop paying paying it to fighting age men in 5 star hotels ,,

[@juliawigger9796]

How about collecting 40 billion outstanding in corporation tax!

[@clovermark39]

How about Politicians refusing a payrise on their first year of office as main parliamentarians. Make the pension to be received after a certain time.

[@dianelopes8199]

@@clovermark39 yes and ban life time pesion payout and a private driven car for rest of there life when only done 6 weeks in office ,like that terrsa may , what a scam , if i worked for just 6 weeks caused a utter mess and got paid rest of my life and given my own chauffeur driver,i be laughing me butt off , just 6 weeks work and we paying her pay off for life ,,

[@mariachester950]

We know what the care is like....I would have liked to see what the many many managers do....undercover....the big bucks people...and why is the NHS....depts having bank holidays...why.....roll on shift...24/7....every dept....that's what we pay for.....

[@mariachester950]

Example...facture clinics ..closed because its a bank holiday....and the desk staff....who you only say your name...most of the time.....Monday off...what is this lunacy....

[@steveelliott9746]

I live in Shrewsbury. This is the hospital which has had a major scandal in the maternity unit. Hundreds of babies died or were brain damaged. Mothers also died. Staff blamed mothers for the death of their baby. This is not due to underfunding or to creeping privatisation. Look it up.

[@mterrylane819]

i agree, with you

[@ML-xh1go]

Doctors who run surgeries should be paid for the patients they see, NOT how many there are on their books, my neighbour says he told the doctor that they were just a call centre,

[@raymonddonaghy2314]

Absolutely correct I can't believe that's never been implemented

[@archiemcberry7102]

The NHS is a "Sacred Cow" that will never allow itself to be reformed. The levels of bureaucracy have been in power for a lifetime and will defeat any measure to "change" the NHS. Politicians are not powerful enough to reform the NHS. If you cannot stop the boats how do you think you can improve the NHS? The NHS will cry, "More money." And that is it!

[@ianbennett1491]

Same as the BBC.Both are a law unto themselves and virtually untouchable.

[@MrReubenTishkoff]

Also, NHS is a voting block of sorts. People inside who benefit, people with chronic illness and in need of constant care and old school socialists will support whoever promises more to the NHS.

[@raymonddonaghy2314]

Historian David Starkey said the same on question time and he's never been on since

[@archiemcberry7102]

@@raymonddonaghy2314 Somewhere along the line the NHS went from serving the patients to serving the bureaucracy. The elite never see the suffering of the patients. Out of sight, out of mind.

[@lizeggar2421]

Which is why I am voting REFORM UK after always voting Tory .

[@valprince5455]

I pay a thousand pounds a week for my mother in care with severe dementia, she has been there two years so far, do the maths! She had a fall at home and was admitted to hospital. Doctor told me she had to go into care as I could not cope with her deteriorating condition, she is 88yrs and I’m 65 yrs . Social care must become a priority

[@andrearoyd2942]

Heart goes out to you. My father in law was in a care home for the last 18 months of his life, he died at 100 & 4 weeks old. Quite frankly after the illness of mother in law, then the watchful eye on father in law for 20 years, we had had enough!! As for the care home, his was £1,200 a week! he wasn't entitled to carers allowance, neither was he entitled as there is no system for it, TAX REFLIEF. Problem for the Health service, or the decanting of the elderly & other chronically ill people to social \ community care - the welfare state never considered the advances in medication & generally the longevity of the individual.

[@cashkitty3472]

Go in . Get her as an outpatient green as her stuff and refuse to send her back. What can they do

[@cashkitty3472]

My nan is 99 and thankfully lives in her house and is still ok and can go upstairs . My other babe was 95 got out in a hinge and 4 months later was dead

[@theresamarie1379]

Snap. £90,000 per year to keep my dad sitting in a chair in a care home because he fell over at home. 18 months later....

[@lindagilbertson6055]

O​@@cashkitty3472

[@ML-xh1go]

The government closed our small hospital that use to take those from hospital who needed rehabilitation before going home, so no bed blocking,our country is not only broken it is over populated with immigration, hundreds of thousands of refugees that we were not acquitted to deal with,

[@sparrow_6177]

Very True and yet still these millionaire Politicians use the NHS rather than pay for any treatment they need themselves. Like they cannot afford it. Also a few years back, if you got an appointment letter, it used to state on the bottom ' are you entitled to free nhs treatment? Now I notice this is no longer on a letter. The NHS has become a free for all. No wonder we have them coming here every day.

[@veryhappychappy12]

No one's clapping now.. Personally I never did.

[@marisataylor1828]

The reason for clapping for NHS was an exercise in damage mitigation and emotional control of the populous. It was patronising, cringeworthy, and designed to manipulate the people. We all fell for it, even the Royals. I did one or two until my instinct kicked in and I stopped. It didn’t mean that I didn’t appreciate all the very hard work, but my skin started to crawl.

[@tazzie2shoos]

@@marisataylor1828 I have a family member that worked for NHS during C19. He cringed about the clapping/banging pots for the NHS, not least because he said the wards were empty and they were all just standing around waiting for patients that never came.

[@TheNix333]

So proud for not bothering to support hard working nurses?

[@tazzie2shoos]

@@TheNix333 It was social engineering - in a health 'emergency' the NHS is there to save us not the other way around - that's what it was set up for.

[@ValTwineDeaner]

I never joined in with the woke clapping, I refused to take part. Other people were working all through Covid and got got applauded. Vote Reform, they'll sort it out.

[@CTE-hs2qe]

4 hours! My partner has just got home from 26 hour waiting with staff bringing beds in the hall from the side rooms and the rooms were empty. They were lying saying the rooms were full when nobody was even in there. NHS is shocking, we are paying for NHS and most of the staff are incompetent in doing there jobs.

[@zeroounce8874]

They are told to do these things by management. They want to bankrupt nhs intentionally. It’s all orchestrated.

[@tjj4lab]

Absolutely no one should be surprised at this. The NHS spent a couple of years laughing at us over Covid. While we were under house arrest, they were in empty hospitals being so bored there was a massive spate of Tiktok dance routines, by dozens of staff at once in completely empty wards. None of them spoke up and told us it was all a lie. Who wouldn't want to get paid to go to work, with no actual work to do?

[@janyb1907]

These vile people should not be working in the health service.Only trained caring people should be doing this work

[@AJ-hi9fd]

I spoke up, you didn’t want to listen. My previous reply has been censored/removed.

[@carolharris8167]

I can't comment on all the tik tock NHS staff dancing. I worked all through Covid in a hospital and yes the wards were empty to start with, we were waiting for the influx of Covid patients to come in so the beds were empty ready for this. It didn't last long, we couldn't keep up with demand,, to the point most staff were going off sick with it. I will never forget that year and what everyone went through in the NHS hospitals and outside of the hospitals, very sad.

[@number8533]

@@AJ-hi9fd same. The media had everyone believing every hospital was like a war scene. I tried to tell my family but they thought I was playing it down so they wouldn’t be so worried 😳

[@jeffthomas2364]

No one said every hospital was busy. Yes there was empty car parks, empty clinics, empty wards coz guess what? Everyone was at home, why was everyone at home? Because we were under lockdown. The busy wards you seen on the news where they were losing people and it was dire were the respiratory wards where no members of the public were even anywhere near. So yes you did see empty hospital car parks and corridors and departments, all non urgent appointments and elective treatments were all cancelled. It’s not rocket science. I bet you all believe The Earth is flat as well.

[@Drewtheelder]

Two issues in the election, the cost of living and the NHS, BS, what about the boats?

[@janyb1907]

Boats do should be top of the list for things needing attention.Stop the boats and deport the illegals

[@clovermark39]

Yes I thought that. They daren’t bring that up.

[@adrianbrown1492]

First for most ordinary English people is immigration.

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@adrianbrown1492....I agree and only English folk 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇮🇪too

[@garethwilliams976]

The boats form only a tiny proportion of our immigrant intake.

[@ChristineRead-ck1uq]

Had to go to A&E three times during the winter and each time the wait got longer. The shortest was 8 hours and the longest 13 hours. There were people in the waiting room who'd been there for over 24 hours because they had nowhere else to put them, apparently. One old chap was in his 90s and had been sitting alone in a wheel chair for over 16 hours. Other waiting patients were constantly trying to help him by simply talking to him and making sure he didn't need anything. Hospital staff were largely ignoring him. So wrong in every way.

[@ChristineRead-ck1uq]

​@@mzd9219A bed or even a stretcher might have helped the poor man. He was suffering from cancer.

[@lizflitflop3906]

Maybe reduce the uk population of ppl who aren't legally here taking the resources!! No housing, no health care, not enough schools, no dentists!!. Bad money management also.

[@zeroounce8874]

Don’t worry population is going down quite fast. All the poor and gullible will be gone first. Depopulation agenda is in progress…and nobody cares if you were born and bread here. Poor is poor. Soon we will not afford food.

[@nickjung7394]

What is needed is a similar enquiry to that of the Post Office with senior managers interrogated by qualified barristers in a public forum!

[@amyp66]

I would wager that Princess Anne went straight in the other day

[@carolfletcher2601]

Yes I agree it makes me sick same for Charles and Kate. Why font they put some of there money into nhs

[@MOLL146]

This is a ridiculous comment ; emergency cases -head injuries /road traffic accidents etc get the best care in ICU . It is the non urgent /hospital ward care that is lacking . If YOU had a head injury YOU would go to the very top of the list .

[@amyp66]

@@MOLL146 It's not so ridiculous after the experience I had recently with my mum. A twelve hour wait overnight with her in awful pain. Kept her in for two days, one of those in a corridor (I bet she didn't get that treatment either) sent home only to have to return as they didn't treat what we presented but something else.. So another 14 hour wait where I had to plead with a nurse practitioner to deal with what we actually came for rather than the low sodium that they found after a blood test. She was admitted again for another week where she had the most awful treatment along with most of the people around her. The whole experience has actually made me very fearful of ever going into hospital myself. In addition my daughter has just spent three months working in the very hospital that Princess Anne was in and was equally appalled at the treatment given there. I would also pretty much guess she wasn't roused from her sleep at 5am to move her to another ward, sorry corridor, as they needed her bed space. The whole system stinks and it begins in A&E

[@MOLL146]

@@amyp66 I can completely sympathise with you , believe me I have spent many long hours in A&E with my Mum who I cared for until she passed away at 100 years old . My experiences in hospitals have been absolutely traumatic from 45 years ago when my Father passed away in a terrible state in hospital . The point I was making was that a sudden traumatic accident and treatment in ICU results in better care . My Mum was in ICU after I LITERALLY FOUGHT WITH THE HOSPITAL TO SAVE HER, the care was second to none , then they put her on a ward and left her to die . I , like you am terrified of going to hospital . There are many people in this country who are priveleged and can pay for private care , lucky them ! Incidentally, Princess Anne is very no nonsense and would not demand special treatment . She sits in economy on aeroplanes ( I have seen this ) and is very aware of her surroundings . This is a woman who wanted her children brought up without titles . Princess Anne could have been in a private hospital for anything she required . Also one has to be aware of press intrusion and security . We can’t blame the failings of the NHS on the Royal Family , if they were not Royal they would still be rich enough to receive the best care without you or I knowing about it , blame the successive governments of this country . As I previously said ; this terrible situation resulted in the premature death of my Father 45 years ago , our hospitals have been in dire straits for a very long time .

[@zeroounce8874]

And you all admire them… Charlie the boy works hard with WEF.

[@cameronkobe7838]

I don't think they're laughing at the patients. I was recently advised to go urgently to A&E (London) by a triage nurse on the 111 service after an accident. Despite being told my case was urgent, I was in the waiting room for 17 hours and considered myself lucky. There were others there when I arrived who had terrible injuries and were in dire need. It was horrible. I felt bad for the nurses as well. They weren't sitting around laughing, they were run off their feet and all looked exhausted. Some of the patients were a real handful too and trying to push to the front of the queue, and you'd end up torn between sympathy for them because they were in pain, and anger because everybody else was also in pain but was waiting their turn. The place seemed totally understaffed, and the doctors and nurses were drowning in backlog. Absolute state of the NHS.

[@chrisjones3901]

Yes I agree its false to turn this all on the nurses laughing yes they are laughing but it's not that way its they are helpless

[@kaydee5352]

Yes to be fair I don't think this nurse was laughing at patients it sounded more like laughing (not laughing!) at the situation they and patients are dealing with..like hands tied behind back..☹️

[@marieparrott7944]

They were definitely not laughing at the patient who had to wait 46hours….we have all had a slightly untimely laugh which is sometimes misinterpreted as unacceptable

[@johnvella5834]

I live in Shrewsbury and our hospital is disgusting and can vouch for it.

[@karenrussell8704]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm thinking of moving to the Shrewsbury area, so I'd better make sure I'm never ill or have an accident!

[@perseus431]

Some of the most callous people in our country work in our hospitals.

[@amandahudson2038]

Also the least compassionate

[@garethwilliams976]

And many ofthw most loving and caring.

[@perseus431]

@@garethwilliams976 It's been a long time since I met one of them.

[@sparrow_6177]

Ain't that the truth. My husbands hospital notes are full of remarks about ME because I made a complaint after he ended up in intensive care from multi organ failure which a surgeon caused.

[@gosskamperis2016]

I recon it was a NERVOUS giggle rather than a "funny ha ha" giggle.

[@cheryljones9339]

I agree. Like a "what can you do?" kind of laugh. She didn't find it funny.

[@artistreality]

That's nothing. Wait until the real scandal of morphine abuse in NHS hospitals when it comes to the elderly. I'm not the only one who's had healthy elderly family members go into hospital for minor issues and then never return home. In one instance multiple complaints about unnecessary morphine being used. If you can afford it, go private.

[@susanwright1999]

Agree there uthinasing big time

[@chrisspencer6502]

Yes pensioners should go private bloody layabout

[@Paul-wt7wo]

And midazolam

[@janyb1907]

​@@Paul-wt7woHancock should be arrested for treason

[@mairiconnell6282]

Going Private won't help in this situation. After all it is the same doctors one sees, therefore, there will be the same scrips written. I understand what you mean. My GP Practice is the worst for increasing my opioids.

[@Pendragon1122]

They laughed at us with their TikTok dances so what’s new?

[@laurentaylor4933]

My sister, an NHS Sister for over 30 years , retired , cried at listening to this.

[@chris-913]

My sister's bf is a HCA in A&E and says that apart from the constant 'sickness' days taken by staff, when they are actually at work they are on a go slow! She has been told by her boss not to rush as she'll "get no thanks for it". she says nurses are often sat around on the computer looking busy but actually just chatting together whilst patients wait in agony. Another says they have been told not to wake the on-call doctor unless it's a life or death emergency. Even when it is a life or death situation doctors will just not attend, particularly for the older patients. So many people are dying of strokes and sepsis. She says it's as though nobody wants to do any work. Patients are often ignored or told off for complaining. The elderly are just left in corridors until the next shift. Patients who have a family member with them are treated better than others. People are dying in corridors or side rooms and just left there for hours. I am terrified that I may end up in A&E one day.

[@christinefiedor3518]

As a retired paediatric and general nhs trained RGN I sincerely hope and pray hat this is an exaggeration and is not factual. This is gross neglect and in breach of duty of care and , as such is a criminal offence.

[@starlight1867]

@@christinefiedor3518I had a stomach bleed made worse by blood thinners. In agony after vomiting a mixing bowl full of blood waited 3 1/2 hours for the ambulance, 2 hours on triage to see a doctor and get pain relief then 16 hours for a bed still vomiting blood. Luckily got an emergency endoscopy in the morning and had it clipped. Some nurses saw me vomiting blood into a bowl and in great pain (not making a fuss I might add) and just walked by without a word. The odd one stopped to help me - it was an absolute nightmare with nurses ignoring buzzers but laughing and joking around the nurses station on one ward. I was in hospital 13 days so you can see how serious my case was at that time.

[@petercrane2560]

me missus has told me she'll die on the couch rather than be admitted to hospital!!!

[@TheRuthdobson]

​@@petercrane2560I'm in agreement with her. I'm 55 and dread the day I may need the NHS, I'm skint too so yes I'd probably die at home when it's my time 😢

[@noladavis5085]

And this is why carers like me get £80 a week for caring for our loved ones for over 30 hours a week. We are trapped as well as being called Benefit scroungers. Won't be long before we're paid in vouchers too.

[@TheRuthdobson]

I'll second that. I somehow survive on carers allowance 😢

[@noladavis5085]

@@TheRuthdobson I truly empathise with you. We get punished if we try to better ourselves. I can't imagine the amount of money we are saving the government, but we are treated like crap

[@sysasst670]

Unfortunately money won't fix the problem for the NHS. It needs rebuilding from the bottom up. Stopping health tourism and not free at point of entry for non indigenous population is a long overdue starting point.

[@amandahudson2038]

Put a pay here desk in every hospital reception area for those who have not contributed taxes.

[@amandahudson2038]

I subsidise local authority until ,my savings where zeroed

[@christinefiedor3518]

I hear you. I trained in the nhs , now retired and live in Australia. When visiting us my late mother in law had not brought enough of her medication with her so I took her to see my gp. He took her history and checked her blood pressure then gave her the prescription that she needed. On the way out the reception asked to sign the form so that Australia could claim the cost back from the nhs. Same thing happened at the pharmacy. Only a few weeks later a friend while on holiday required a stay in hospital in the uk. Knowing how the system worked she asked the staff for the forms so that she sign them in order for the uk to claim the cost back from Australia. Imagine her surprise when the staff said “Oh you don’t have to bother with that, it’s not worth the paperwork”. No wonder the whole world laughs at the uk!

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@christinefiedor3518... ..I'm not surprised at all....

[@zeroounce8874]

😂😂😂

[@MsAmanzi]

I wouldn't blame the staff for laughing, it is black humour to cope with the conditions. If they didn't care why would they work in such a stressful environment? Its all about the management and funding.

[@drewpeacock7707]

My 91 yo mum fell and broke her hip, she waited 15 hours for an ambulance then 12 hours in the ambulance outside the hospital…they didn’t operate on her until 3 days later….disgusting NHS, disgusting government, disgusting UK

[@mterrylane819]

third world for UK people, politians fat cats and elligals living the life of reily

[@johnwickenden5643]

To be fair, the giggle didn't sound like black humour, it sounded more like embarrassment

[@jsteere9222]

4 hrs that’s a joke I was there 9 hours. Without pain relief got so dehydrated I had to be put on a drip after my blood pressure went so low. There’s no care in A&E. they have to look away

[@eyesopen1850]

A&E = Avoidance & Excuses in Shrewsbury.

[@lothos-tu4uh]

tbh, that laughter is 'embrassed laughter', not 'mocking laughter'... and, similar to the police forces around the nation, i dont blame the ground-level front-line staff, i blame the management-level people running the establishments and the utter waste of resources on things like DEI and 'inclusivity'...

[@number8533]

Exactly.

[@LWD1099]

NHS is wasteful, and peoples taxes pay for it, but its not working and it needs to be changed, when something works in another country then look at why it works and look at how it can be implemented to make what you do better. But a big big problem is there are too many people in this country for the infrastructure can handle. And until that changes no amount of tinkering will make the NHS a world class service. Its failing, its broken, it needs Reform.

[@simonthwaite9136]

Vote reform so I can get medical help in my own cuntry

[@chrisjones3901]

Vote who you want but it not going to be a quick fix

[@karenrussell8704]

Was that a deliberate spelling mistake? Lol

[@simonthwaite9136]

@@karenrussell8704 yeah heard it in a song

[@marisataylor1828]

I don’t think the nurses think it’s funny at all! What else can they do but their best. It IS gallows humour and embarrassment, frustration, exasperation and exhaustion.

[@barbarachristina2026]

still you should never even think about laughing like that, if you are supposed to be a professional taking care of people who are vulnerable especially elderly people who maybe have no family left. it disgusts me that they talk and laugh like this and especially behind patient's backs. it has also been the case, give the wrong type of people who should never do nursing in the first place, some kind of power over others and they will laugh and ridicule those weaker than themselves.

[@suesanbooth6739]

My husband was left in an ambulance for 12hrs even though the cre0w phoned ahead to let them know he was a possible sepsis, he was still in the ambulance when I went back, but only for 1hr so intotal 13hrs with sepsis

[@colynnburrell]

Call a spade a spade. Our wards are choked with immigrants elderly relatives.

[@christinefiedor3518]

Which is also surprising as many elderly relatives of immigrants are looked after by family!

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@christinefiedor3518 ......... the ones that are Ill and expecting medical care are choking up the wards obviously.... immigrants don't perform operations et cetera on their elderly do they!🙄🙄....

[@adriangrundy4277]

​@christinefiedor3518 so they treat medical conditions too? .... is there anything they can't do? Makes me wonder why their countries are such shitholes if they are so wonderful

[@garethwilliams976]

Rubbish!

[@christinefiedor3518]

That’s a bit of a surprise as any immigrants look after their elderly at home which is a cultural norm for them.

[@cosmic-tiger]

To play devils advocate, it’s entirely possible she’s laughing out of embarrassment. People do sometimes laugh when they are uncomfortable. That doesn’t excuse the lack of prompt care of course.

[@sparrow_6177]

I have seen nurses in a hospital where I live, chatting in corridors and flashing their false eyelashes whilst patients buzzers are going off. My husband was taken from intensive care after organ failure and sepsis (he also got C dif) and put into a filthy room with full bins, yet the cleaner was at the nurses station, twirling her duster whilst chatting with nurses. I actually took pictures of his room for my complaint. They were adamant his room had been steam cleaned yet I could draw my name on the window and there was ground in grime on the floor. whilst a lot of nurses are very overworked, you have some who just do not give a damn about the job or their patients. I voiced my concerns and one nurse had written on my husbands notes that I had told her I had a big mouth???? Why on earth would I say that, more than likely her opinion of me because I had complained. We have his paper notes and their comments about me on HIS health records are appalling.

[@HoneyBumblebee300]

I totally agree with you. I saw with my own eyes the care received by my mum before she passed away. She always used to tell us how the night nurses (mostly agency nurses) were treating her. I stayed the night with her 2 days before she passed away. She had trouble breathing and asked for a doctor but was ignored. When I asked one of the night nurses, who was on her phone, for a commode she told me to wait for another nurse. One male patient was asking for help but she did not get up. I wrote a complaint letter but only excuses were given. There is no point in complaining as you get nowhere.

[@sparrow_6177]

@@HoneyBumblebee300 You would not believe the response I got from a surgeon after my husband ended up in intensive care. He needed a 2nd operation because a staple had come off his bowel. He was told he needed to go back to Theatre but was left a further 30 hours. Sepsis had set in by then and he went into organ failure, he spent 3 weeks in intensive care on a ventilator and dialysis machine. Thank god he is alive but he now has stage 3a CKD. The response from my complaint - I wish i had done the operation sooner but it was in hindsight. We all make mistakes.????? So sorry you lost your mum x

[@HoneyBumblebee300]

@@sparrow_6177 I too am sorry about what your husband had to go through. I know this is a bit drastic, but I rather die then end up in a hospital. Things have changed so much and most medical staff are not as caring as they used to be. I wish you sbd your husband all the best.

[@sparrow_6177]

@@HoneyBumblebee300 Thank you so much. You too.

[@samanthaostrowski6755]

Too many people in this little country. There is the root of the problem. VOTE REFORM UK 🇬🇧 IT'S THE ONLY WAY. If you vote labour there will be even more people with familes. Starmer want open borders, Rayner wants more people. Vote Reform uk 🇬🇧. Nigel farage wants to change this broken system. When will this country ever learn. Previous governments made promises but never kept them. Nigel is making a contract with the British people to put us first, no matter what colour you are.

[@elainepettis5075]

In my area. We lost 2 hospitals, 1 was a training hospital. Both sites were built on for housing. A new hospital opened in 2000. It has 463 inpatient beds and it serves an area of 500,000 people. More houses are being built over the road from it also. No wonder there is problems.

[@timothylakin5035]

My town in the Midlands population 90 thousand hospital gone houses built on site nearest hospital 18 miles away

[@stevee2979]

I was a nurse for over 30 yrs, we laugh because if you didn't you'd go nuts. None of its funny, working for the NHS isn't funny either.

[@barbarachristina2026]

sorry but you shouldn't laugh when talking about patient's misfortune you should feel sorry for them and respect them. brings to mind those pathetic tik tok dances ... outside the closed doors were people were dying of Covid ! Were you all going nuts then ? it's disgusting !

[@lumpycustard3433]

Does anybody think its worth staying here in this awful dysfunctional country any longer? Im off as soon as possible!

[@sarahlund-nt3kw]

I honestly don't blame you. Our country is turning to s***.

[@samholden4171]

I Feb up too of living in broken Britain would go to Australia if I could

[@lumpycustard3433]

It's not quite so easy for us to just pitch up somewhere else and have all of our needs taken care of ! There's equity for you eh?!!!🤔🙄😐​@@samholden4171

[@helengunter378]

The entire Civil service need to be sacked

[@adrianbrown1492]

Yes until this is done our country will always be run by these people who hate us.

[@briantitchener4829]

It all started some years ago when hospital managers were closing wards left right and centre which created this bed shortage in the first place. Simply not enough beds now, but far, far too many unnecessary managers. Disgusting state of affairs.

[@petegooch5909]

And who was the Health secretary at the time? HUNT!

[@stitchlover633]

ive often wondered where did the beds go it just seems deliberate

[@lg2151]

I was recently unfortunately in hospital and needed an mri on my back. Went in at 9am Friday and was sent to a&e for an xray etc even though it was an mri. Did a bladder scan, lost the results somewhere so did another one transferred to the trauma unit waited to hear when the mri was. Was told at 8 pm that it wouldn’t be until Monday. I asked for the appointment time and I’d come back. Was told I had to be kept in all weekend otherwise I’d be classed an outpatient and would wait 6 months. It’s a hospital not an hotel!!! How much would that cost using up a bed for someone who was able to take painkillers at home until mri apt on Monday? Absolute waste of time and money. Finally got the results of the mri by 5pm on the Monday. I literally sat watching time money and expertise being flushed down the toilet. They need restructuring and efficient processing not more money to waste.

[@nrgoose]

If they don't laugh they will cry, NHS staff should not have to work in these conditions, I'm surprised they have anyone doing the job.

[@mandyjames8211]

Couldn't agree more. It's black humour because the NHS is a joke. Don't know how the staff put up with being constantly set up to fail each day

[@chic-tv]

My mother went in , laid in her own excrement while nurses sat doing nothing , came home with bedsores , she does not deserve to be treated like that , all her life working and nhs did this she is 77 yrs old . Never felt so angry .on every visit to her , nurses sat , enjoying themselves while she laid , not being turned , pure neglect .

[@Sun_Flower1]

Need to bring back Matron. Everyone was scared of her and got their jobs done properly.

[@evelynsommerville]

I'm so sorry your mother went through this absolutely shocking, take care😢

[@miniward9182]

That was done to my Husband of 61 years. 59 years of being a KNOWN paralysed Paraplegic & me the only carer. Negligent Nursing finished him off with bed-sores.

[@anurse1406]

How about you lift your ducking finger and take care of her you could’ve cleaned her up you could’ve changed her the nurses have other priorities like somebody that can’t breathe

[@adrianbrown1492]

Mr Lilley spouts a lot of facts and figures but refuses to acknowledge the real reasons the NHS is broken. Immigration firstly and GP's refusing to work full time.

[@delythedwards7103]

Give that poor nurse a break! They aren’t laughing because it’s “funny”, but because of the ridiculousness of the whole thing. Those nurses are being yelled at by everyone. They are the ones trying to advocate for the patients but have absolutely no power to do anything.

[@andrewfoster4359]

Absolutely it was an embarrassed laugh and hopeless laugh not making fun of those waiting. Poor reporting and analysis😢

[@barbarachristina2026]

uhn they were laughing for sure. i've seen this behaviour in other places NHS so many so called nurses (most of whom are not nurses as they are tied up doing paperwork) actually health assistants and can be extremely upsetting towards patients i've seen it myself !

[@delythedwards7103]

@@barbarachristina2026 I work with them and they are amazing. And yes, many have to do paperwork (not of their own choosing). It was clearly biased reporting. It’s so easy for people to sit at home and be judgemental. People always want to criticise, it’s so sad. How about putting yourself in their shoes. Every day huge wait times, everyone complaining and you are powerless to help those poor patients. Those nurses have endured this for years and there is no end in sight. Nervous laughter is actually a normal response. And I’m pretty sure she was a nurse, but what different does it make if she was a health assistant?

[@andrewfoster4359]

@barbarachristina2026 yes thete are occasions of bad behaviour for sure anc that's absolutely wrong and needs calling out. This was very clearly not that situation!!

[@louiseowen8495]

Same here. I was in 4 months ​@barbarachristina2026

[@paulinedodds6388]

If you listen carefully you will see they aren’t laughing at the patients but at the times they are supposed to be seen by. A lot people turn up at A and E with minor things and block up the A and E too.

[@ffudon]

it was only 2 minutes ago the sheep were pan bashing for the tiktok work-shy clowns. Never forget - Never forgive ✊

[@sarahlund-nt3kw]

😄

[@radders7952]

I don’t think they are laughing. It must be awful for them. It’s a wonder they don’t leave. AND they want to close the other A&E in Telford. The town gets bigger and no more provision . Then they combined the drop in with A&E disgraceful. 😢😢

[@FlytoColombia]

Agreed. It's a very British way of dealing with a helpless situation. They're not laughing out of amusement.

[@AlastairGunn-sz2om]

Are you sure about that . WELL they dont seem to be laughing now they didn't get the PAY RISE they wanted.

[@tazzie2shoos]

I know this is a mad theory, but maybe, just maybe, the sacking of health care workers who refused to have the jab has made the problem a lot worse 🙄🙄 And pls remember Labour sat in opposition and didn't oppose a damn thing......

[@ld-zj1bn]

I dont think theyre laughing as if its funny. Its how they feel - they have an impossible job and they see the futility of their position.

[@scotswumin5502]

Wow, is it really 'the patients' bed blocking? It's the availability of care packages in the community that holds up discharge.

[@Lisalisag2023]

That staff member did not sound as if they found that amusing it’s one of those probably been verbally abused for the whole shift and if you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Try working in it before you judge.

[@MrLetmein2011]

I don’t think they are laughing in a nasty way , let’s not lay into hard working nurses please.

[@mterrylane819]

never the less her attitude is not acceptable

[@Tymonie]

And they blame patients for "bed blocking"

[@kaydee5352]

Yes that was the bit that I didn't like ! ☹️ not so much the laugh because I think that was just laughing at a horrible situation ie disbelief ..but bed blocking comment sounded like blame🤔

[@Isherwoodsounds]

Even in Worcestershire its sometimes over 16 hours. Plenty of nurses and doctors chatting round a desk. We pay their wages. I wasleft outside ct room waiting for canula to be removed . I was told 10 minutes. More like 25 . No one else went into ct room. I tole him I thought you had forgotten forgotten . Ih no he said . Were having a bit of a banter as we stary early. What the hell. Lazy attitudes.

[@dianegriffen2756]

And they have time for tik tok routines

[@charlottew1245]

If you have a chronic illness, that requires regular trips to a and e, you will soon find out the level of so called care .. only a few nurses care and do the majority of the work. The junior Drs attitudes are often appalling.. they just want you to leave .. they are not knowledgeable, they just run a couple of tests and if they cannot see anything obvious, you are sent home. they rely totally on test results and are apparently not able to make any diagnoses beyond that.

[@GeorgeM705]

Chronic illness should be managed by your GP, not by a&e. A&E us for acute life threatening issues.

[@bluevelvet3769]

It's no laughing matter if u have a health condition .they take the piss.

[@rule3036]

The staff member was laughing at the ridiculous situation, not at the patients predicament. Pretty obvious.

[@sarahlund-nt3kw]

It's a bit like, when I was laughing, to myself, when I had to smear peanut butter, on my hamster's cage door, so that it found it's way back, to the cage. It felt really strange. That doesn't mean that I was laughing at the hamster going missing. I was laughing, because it didn't feel quite right, about putting peanut butter, on the cage door. I felt like I was vandalizing it's cage. 😂

[@James-gf9jl]

Still waiting for the NHS CEO Prtichard to be interviewd about what SHE's going to do to sort out the NHS. Her job, in other words.

[@beverleybrown5365]

We have to fix our care to the elderly in the community before anything will be fixed in the NHS, I have left work to care for my mum because I don’t trust our care system and I’m a Registered Nurse. People know they will have a huge wait in A&E, but the care when your actually in a bed is appalling. After the care my mum received from GP and Hospital admission I have no trust in the system for elderly, we should all remember that we will all be elderly and if the system is as bad as it is now god help us all. 😡

[@kaydee5352]

It's scary especially if a person doesn't have anyone to watch out for them..I dread it. Good luck with mum😊❤

[@NiallWardrop]

If you have to deal with the NHS you discover that the word "appointment" has a special meaning there. In normal life an appointment is an agreement between two people to meet at an agreed place and time which both parties will try to do or let the other know in good time if they can't. In NHS speak an appointment is where you are expected to turn up on time but they have no similar obligation. You may just wait for hours or tricks may be employed such as calling you somewhere around the appointed time, weighing you and returning you to the waiting room for another long wait, but you were "seen" on time. Then on leaving they tell you to go to the desk and make another appointment for a year's time, this will not be kept but will be changed at short notice at least once near the time.

[@alidabaxter5849]

I watched this programme in absolute horror. The only person who seemed to care was the excellent young man who went in as an undercover investigator and was moved to tears.

[@maryhall3722]

It was a laugh of incredulity. They were giving generalised examples around stating the fact that beds are blocked and there was therefore no movement possible. The member of staff was not laughing in ridicule of one particular patient

[@carolharris8167]

I work in the NHS and I can see why they're laughing. The whole NHS is a joke. How can you set targets when you don't even know what type of injuries patients are coming in with. Looking at a patient could take longer than another patient. They're right about bed blocking. It's not the patients fault there aren't enough places in the care homes. Then we get some care homes, not all I hasten to add who refuse to take them back when the patients needs haven't changed after being treated, so it then becomes the hospitals problem. I could go on but what's the point as nothing changes.

[@miniward9182]

Our Ambulance Men & Woman are better than the Doctors etc👀❗️

[@carolharris8167]

@@miniward9182 One of my nephews is a paramedic, I can sort of see what you're saying there.

[@kieranb7047]

This is Shrewsbury A&E in the programme and what they dont even mention is that they want to close the A&E in Telford 15 miles away and have only Shrewsbury A&E to service the entirety of Shropshire and mid wales. Absolutely disgusting.

[@louisemiller4970]

To be fair I don't think the staff were laughing in that way at the 46hr wait. I really don't think so, but I agree with the comment's that during covid hospitals were empty, Save our NHS, but no one said Save the Care Homes

[@number8533]

Yeah I don’t think they were laughing like that either. It’s also not the drs and nurses fault that this happens daily.

[@paulkirk6989]

''Just stop '' net zero,

[@lozzamadozza4571]

I am not a fan of the NHS and the way it is managed and our money being spaffed. However these nurses were not laughing at the patients, they were laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. There are a few bad apples, but we need to stop demonising nurses, the state of the NHS is not on them

[@roslewis9923]

The infrastructure can no longer provide for the current population, so how can we have any more migrants legal or illegal?

[@avrilcrisp5725]

I spoke to 111 at 3am and was on the ward by 4.30am. Not all NHS services are bad.

[@sarahlund-nt3kw]

I agree. Not all of them.

[@margeretpaert4435]

Disgusting..remember when they were all tic toc dancing...while the hospitals were empty.. When it was covid... 😢

[@zannasloane]

Anyone mentioning the problem with getting a GP appointment taking so long that problems that might have been nipped in the bud deteriorate to the point A&E is the only option....and have YOU tried using 111 for something serious?

[@kaydee5352]

It's a bit like being told go to pharmacist ,they then tell you "no, best go to your doctor"🙄

[@bluevelvet3769]

Gps are a nightmare also not all of them .but most are rubbish.and they don't know what they are doing.

[@andreaharrington9705]

Firstly why were they being recorded? Secondly these poor staff need humour to cope with this crisis and it’s unfair to be targeting them

[@deidrecourtney7184]

they showed no care or empathy at all

[@michaelduffin1722]

Heart attack victim I personally know.............7hrs he was told by 999 to get an "emergency ambulance?????

[@chizzy2214]

I believe that's called an embarrassed laugh, she wasn't taking pleasure in it clearly. We would laugh in the face absurd levels of adversity. It wasn't funny-laugh-funny, it was absurd, and we felt helpless.

[@marys6800]

I was told by the mother of a nurse that those who don't speak English are seen first because interpreters charge by the hour and the cost can be very high otherwise.

[@raymonddonaghy2314]

If you can't speak English you shouldn't get treated its that simple

[@LWD1099]

​@raymonddonaghy2314 if you can't speak English you shouldn't be living here!! It should be a prerequisite to being allowed to even stay in this country. They should be able to read write and speak English.

[@AliBaba-fu8oy]

That's true I know

[@deidrecourtney7184]

billions and billions of pounds spent on interpreters no mentions of that ,

[@elainewhite7815]

I have witnessed a foreigner faking the need for an interpreter.......now I know why.

[@loua6268]

It they could discharge patients quicker it would help free the beds. Often you are told you can go home at 8.30 and don’t leave until tea time ( or even later!) because you are waiting for the pharmacy, or waiting for the doctor to complete the discharge etc etc. if they could smarten that process, more people would have access to beds.

[@Redtop1965]

I don’t think the staff were laughing because it's funny or gallows humour, but at the ludicrous situation of 4 hour targets.

[@theresamarie1379]

Too much admin and not enough nursing. Why triage? Why does it take 3 people in separate appointments in three different rooms before you see the right person. That with people going to A&E because they can't get a doctor's appointment. It's all designed to make people go private through frustration and necessity.

[@skycanecorsa100percentpure5]

ITS WOKE DIVERSITY NHS DOCTORS WORKING 3 DAYS A WEEK MUST BE GETTING A FORTUNE TO DO JUST 3 DAYS VOTE REFORM TO REFORM UK GOVERNMENT SERVICES

[@Absaalookemensch]

I've worked in 11 ERs and Trauma Centers in the US from coast to coast for decades. I've never seen an emergency patient wait more than a few minutes to be seen by a provider. Even when we have 2 or 3 codes at the same time, an emergency patient is still assessed within minutes.

[@drandrewallan]

In 1980 there were more managers in the teaching hospital I worked in than there were doctors and nurses put together and it’s got worse!

[@lornahoyle3376]

The attitude of staff to patients is terrible i usec to work as a nurse and other staff would accuse people of faking things to get in which is rubbish and loads of mistakes being made how can they ask for more wages when the care is so poor and hospitals are graded as inadequate . Stepping hill hospital in stockport has just been sued for 30 illion for neglect of a baby and that s one of many serious mistakes

[@barbarapalmer1404]

Where is the HNS boss, where has she been for this parliament? Why is so much being spent on non-jobs, such as DEI? It isn't all the politicians at fault.

[@BillsAllotmentDiary]

Blair introduced NHS Trusts which are run by private sector companies the same companies that have syphoned of tax payers money.

[@lindajones7219]

CORRECT AND BLAIR AND HIS COHORTS HAVE STOCKS SHARES IN THESE SAME PRIVATE SECTOR HEALTH COMPANIES

[@andrearoyd2942]

Apart from the saga of ''bed blocking'' that is people waiting in A&E can't be admitted to a ward, the other issues are the public's abuse of what A&E is, they don't understand the word EMERGENCY Equally if someone is ill that can't get an appointment with their doctor. There needs to be more emphasis of public awareness & education. Our health service HAS SO CHANGED, there is excellent, there is good and there is plain bad & ugly. Throwing money and more staff at it, IS NOT THE ANSWER.

[@Sun_Flower1]

4 week wait to see a GP at my practice! The receptionists tell everyone to call an ambulance or go to A&E if they can't wait 4 weeks to be seen. It was never like this until 2019, when boats started arriving, unchecked, across the Channel.

[@andrearoyd2942]

@@Sun_Flower1 Can't remember the £millions now spent on interpreters for the NHS - but then you have to consider most are non taxpayers & if they are needing interpreters, they are needing treatment. Just too many now, what was it the other 800 !! good god and we pay France $millions also to help police it.

[@pamalden4023]

I think it is being left to get into this state in order for health care to become private. Imo

[@anthonywilson8998]

Why does no one call for more beds. We have only one third those inFrance and Germany. We have been reducing beds for 30 years .That produces a total blockage that results in inefficiencies at the ambulance reception stage,then only half can be processed and then restrictions due to release when all the beds are taken up with shortages of volume.

[@michelesorrell6944]

The NHS would save money by not giving repeat prescriptions to people that have stopped needing them or have enough in stock they haven't taken.

[@joannaborley3673]

Stop blaming covid. Before covid government cut away 20000 beds and during covid took away another 10000 beds across the UK. That's the problem

[@notbaltic280]

70 per cent of medical students are women. The course lasts 5 years. So you average first year doctor is 24 years of age. Most women want to begin having families between 30 and 40. Most women - especially those in high paying jobs will elect to work part time. So for a large percentage of their working life they are combining doctoring and motherhood. So you do the maths. 30 percent work full time Up to 70 percent part-time. So you are going to be short year on year. Implement equal opportunities- not opportunities of outcomes - and staff your NHS.