Simon Jordan & Stefan Borson DISAGREE Over Whether Man City Will Choose To Settle With The PL 😱💰

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@Footballthoughts23
@Footballthoughts23 6 ай бұрын
Settlement undermines the whole system. And the money just magically disappears
@gy6078
@gy6078 6 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s pretty fair when they have failed to do their job the past 20 years when they let Abramovich into the Premier League
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 6 ай бұрын
How? Settlements are part of litigation.
@raymondcochrane8617
@raymondcochrane8617 6 ай бұрын
Ha ha . What money. You're wrong in your thinking as usual. There's no reason why city will settle because they want nothing more than to clear their name and reputation to make sure there's no avenue left available for the premier league to to start yet another vendetta and give idiots like you the opportunity to spew more uneducated misinformation.
@chucky7826
@chucky7826 6 ай бұрын
​@russellward4624 yes but regarding ffp, it makes an absolute joke of the system, if you can break the financial rules and then buy your way out of the consequences with the same wealth they have been using to cheat in the first place
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 6 ай бұрын
@@chucky7826 how did you detrmine they broke the rules? A settlement is a way to assure the party gets some punishment instead of no punishment. And it assures the other party not getting an undeserving punishment. Innocent people are found guilty all the time.
@paulm3805
@paulm3805 6 ай бұрын
Martin O'Neill's been on the botox
@paulhooley9638
@paulhooley9638 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant 😂
@southlondonmonkey
@southlondonmonkey 6 ай бұрын
@@ancient1946 Duh OBVIOUSLY missed the joke
@MrMoneyLong
@MrMoneyLong 6 ай бұрын
@@southlondonmonkeywhen you take some people out , you have to take them back in again.
@paulhooley9638
@paulhooley9638 6 ай бұрын
@@ancient1946 Wakey wakey 😂😂😂
@ello_o-n3t
@ello_o-n3t 6 ай бұрын
@@ancient1946Jesus Christ mate 😭
@theo9372
@theo9372 6 ай бұрын
Mark my words, this wont be city settling with the prem. It will be the prem settling with city.
@MarkRyan-zp7us
@MarkRyan-zp7us 6 ай бұрын
City should take them to the cleaners.
@MrJones895
@MrJones895 6 ай бұрын
All bullshit city will get a fine for none compliance but that’s with eufa not the prem
@kippaxstreeter
@kippaxstreeter 6 ай бұрын
And they will. Then move onto to other certain individuals.
@Back2Brick-Ben
@Back2Brick-Ben 6 ай бұрын
Surely this is Evertons fault
@Mancunianblue
@Mancunianblue 6 ай бұрын
@@Back2Brick-Benno it’s Sadiq Khans or Meghan Markle.
@stevelonmo9495
@stevelonmo9495 6 ай бұрын
Thought it was quite amusing when Jordan interrupted Borson to lecture him about City's charges being related to potential fraud and false accounting over a number of years, when it was Stefan Borson himself who highlighted this to Jordan a few weeks ago, along with the fact that, if true, this would have to involve multiple third parties (sponsors, independent auditors etc) - with the kicker that it would therefore be very difficult to prove such a serious conspiracy.
@willlloyd9480
@willlloyd9480 6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you are a city fan ?
@madeinengland9488
@madeinengland9488 6 ай бұрын
@@willlloyd9480we don’t have fans
@stevelonmo9495
@stevelonmo9495 6 ай бұрын
@@willlloyd9480 I'm guessing you're not.
@terryjames9535
@terryjames9535 6 ай бұрын
I am , it was funny
@tommaxwell7643
@tommaxwell7643 Ай бұрын
Any one can see the involvement of the middle east countries in world sport is just sports washing. Using there vast amount of money to worm there way in and eventually have a major say in world sport, ie, Qatar world cup and 2034 world cup in Saudi.
@DominoEffect2528
@DominoEffect2528 6 ай бұрын
If the premier league settles. The fall out would be massive with 19 other Premier league clubs asking for answers
@omatseyeugen5697
@omatseyeugen5697 6 ай бұрын
What would they do exactly?
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 6 ай бұрын
@@omatseyeugen5697 sweet f all
@shamus3477
@shamus3477 6 ай бұрын
​@@omatseyeugen5697stop the league from being played
@DTM93
@DTM93 6 ай бұрын
@@omatseyeugen5697 They could easily pull out take their ball and go home like they did before when they made the Premier League after leaving the Football League. They may stand up against them and say unless Man City face justfied punishments we won't be playing any further games. The other route could be to take them to the sporting courts there is options the Premier League bosses aren't the top and pinnacle of English football. They aren't judge jury and executioner if most clubs revolt against them they'll have to change and change quickly to save their league.
@LeominsterFC
@LeominsterFC 6 ай бұрын
@@DTM93You just typed three paragraphs and don’t have a single clue what you’re talking about. The case is no longer in the PL’s hands already. If you seriously think the clubs will “band together and refuse to play” you’re living in a fantasy land.
@mikee7406
@mikee7406 6 ай бұрын
If guilty the sanction must not be financial. Money is nothing to the city ownership.
@Marais-cu3vo
@Marais-cu3vo 6 ай бұрын
Their crime is that they spent as much as Arsenal and Man United. Oh, the horror.
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
And what if they are found not guilty? What is the punishment for the premier league, some of the other clubs and the millions of little Hitlers that are running around with zero knowledge base demanding punishment… what happens to all of them?
@Ramps-rc9iy
@Ramps-rc9iy 6 ай бұрын
@@Marais-cu3voWow you actually think this is what it’s all about, the cheats have been cooking the books for years and the fact that there legal team have constantly put obstacles in the way to postpone it going to court speaks volumes, if they aren’t guilty they would have had this case go to court already to clear there name, you lot are deluded.
@kevdog5043
@kevdog5043 6 ай бұрын
@@Marais-cu3votheir crime is that they’re cheating scum
@thor8419
@thor8419 6 ай бұрын
@@Marais-cu3vo Are you stupid? they have been charged with bloating their profits.
@danielwang1615
@danielwang1615 6 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan is such a prick. Stefan is saying both sides are well represented. EPL has high priced lawyers and so does Manchester City. What is Simon waffling about?
@solskjaer1195
@solskjaer1195 6 ай бұрын
Because he's a City fan and knows this is absolute bullshit and wants his Tinpot club to get off Scot free.
@alexalexalex797
@alexalexalex797 6 ай бұрын
“No no, um um um, man city bad, bad, if not found guilty its um um um money! Yes, evil money! Vs the poor pro-bono PL lawyers.”😂
@Danimal28
@Danimal28 6 ай бұрын
Easily- cases take time, the premier league will run out of money far quicker than city
@kevinmurphy1880
@kevinmurphy1880 6 ай бұрын
@@Danimal28the premier league isn’t ever conceivably going to run out of money to pay legal representatives they already likely have on retainer. This is just simply untrue.
@CHILLIFLAMES
@CHILLIFLAMES 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the Premier league spent over 20m on legal fees last year. Sure they can up that if needed ​@kevinmurphy1880
@RSLang919
@RSLang919 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure Everton and forest are gnna really be pleased with a settlement. City settle for 115 charges, they say there not guillty of. and Everton and forest get points deductions for something they admitted to? If this happens, premier league loses all credibility anyway!
@mjgwindowcleaning3699
@mjgwindowcleaning3699 6 ай бұрын
Yep it shows that the Premier League has no teeth if it can’t prove that Manchester City are guilty or not it does obviously race suspicion. Man City have refused to give any evidence as they been legally advised that they are every right entitled not to so it comes down to the Premier League having to try and prove that Manchester City, are guilty. This is a whole cat of fish compared to Nottingham Forest and Everton.
@LionKingMCFC
@LionKingMCFC 6 ай бұрын
Is it City settling with the league or the league settling with City. The league embarrassed themselves when they brought these charges against City. City have never settled on anything, ever.
@RSLang919
@RSLang919 6 ай бұрын
Takes 2 to tango
@Gdatshim
@Gdatshim 6 ай бұрын
@@RSLang919 you sound clueless....so if a cop pulls you over suspecting drunk driving and you do the test and are cleared, your at fault also WTF
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 6 ай бұрын
@@LionKingMCFC it wont be settled the premier league will go bankrupt and the super league will start you dont mess with trillionaires
@RFCDAY
@RFCDAY 6 ай бұрын
Simon may get his day in court with the way he talks about City over the last two years.
@fruittwist4665
@fruittwist4665 6 ай бұрын
But how!? Man city have been charged in a civil lawsuit. It's NOT defamation to state and speak or bring up the point that they been charged...it isn't defamation by any stretch. Many city can't hand out cease and assist when its quite clearly that they have been charged by Th EPL..uz it's true.
@creasicle
@creasicle 6 ай бұрын
There's also the issue of reputational damage to the individuals implicated. It's hard to see City settling.
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 6 ай бұрын
Let me tell you, nobody even knows of City's supposed charges nor even cares outside England..Only Prem rivals want to hang onto that 😂😂😂
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 6 ай бұрын
@@Whooooooaaamaaan small club nobody cares about? Keep on Deluding yourself just to feel relevant 😂😂😂 City is well known in Africa, America and most in Asia too ... Escaping from reality with teenage little jab jokes won't help you 😂😂😂
@creasicle
@creasicle 6 ай бұрын
​@@Triple_X_Xwow you know every football fan in the whole world. Impressive!
@Ramps-rc9iy
@Ramps-rc9iy 6 ай бұрын
@@Whooooooaaamaaan🤣 perfect response absolutely perfect.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 6 ай бұрын
​@Whooooooaaamaaan if nobody cares about City why is all the talk about City? When they talk about Everton the comments is full of "what about City?". When they talk about Forrest its "what about City?". When they talk about LCFC they ask "what about City?".
@richarddenton699
@richarddenton699 6 ай бұрын
As a City fan I would find a 'settlement' unsatisfactory but the argument that City shouldn't want it because the whiff of suspicion would always remain is a nonsense one. This has become so tribal that even if City were to be cleared by the PL, UEAFA, CAS, the ECHR, The United Nations, the Pope and the Dali Lama those who want to believe will still believe ....... regardless of the evidence. There is no neutral 'court of public opinion' on this.
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 6 ай бұрын
I'm a lawyer and I can tell you Simon Jordan doesn't really have a clue what he's talking about. There's only so much money you can spend on a legal case before you quickly get into diminishing returns. From that perspective there is clear equality of arms.
@conorhayes9567
@conorhayes9567 6 ай бұрын
U r a lawyer and are we supposed to believe someone who lies and manipulates poorer people for a living
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 6 ай бұрын
@@conorhayes9567 All my clients and opponents are large companies. I don't deal with poor people. Also, if what you say is true and I'll do anything to get ahead, wouldn't I be saying spend all you can - because that would make me richer. But I'm saying don't spend so much, which is against my interest! Think my friend.
@iniester6724
@iniester6724 5 ай бұрын
@@conorhayes9567you’re as clueless as Simon on lawyers!
@fromahappy5536
@fromahappy5536 6 ай бұрын
According to Simon no team is bigger than the league......then again, according to Simon Man City is bigger than the league! What's wrong with this guy?
@KindaWheezy
@KindaWheezy 6 ай бұрын
As a team, no team is bigger than the whole league. You must abide the rules the league sets and must follow the the guidance given. However, financially, Man City have a nation state to back them up and the prem have a large, but not nation size pot to draw from.
@fromahappy5536
@fromahappy5536 6 ай бұрын
@@KindaWheezy so are you saying Man City has the capacity to bully the Premier League? You can't act big and small at the same time
@kennybadejo625
@kennybadejo625 6 ай бұрын
Notice how Stefan always seems somewhat coy on CIty's case, but quite "matter of fact" on other clubs? Now advocating financial resolution not a form of punishment for them.
@CTRLALTNUKE
@CTRLALTNUKE 6 ай бұрын
Because one is a fraud (subjective) case and one is overspend (numerical). The City charges are criminal in nature so it's opaque and grey (coy).
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
No…. He said that that ship had sailed, it might have suited both parties mutually to do that but it's gone to far and that the premier league would be less damaged now to lose the case than to settle. You literally made your version up to suit your own narrative
@Gdatshim
@Gdatshim 6 ай бұрын
do your research he said in a interview before the PL has not said what the exact charges are in detail where as all the other clubs are saying yes we are guilty
@peptalk7658
@peptalk7658 6 ай бұрын
The PL is looking to settle, not MC. Let's get that straight. They can't prove the slanderous charges they brought out of pressure from the big clubs and are rightfully scared of being sued for defamation.
@Chris-oz9qx
@Chris-oz9qx 6 ай бұрын
115 charges FC.
@broman1429
@broman1429 6 ай бұрын
Yes most people are in denial and just want city to be punished 😂😂
@GodzilaatrendZ
@GodzilaatrendZ 6 ай бұрын
The premier will have to settle city for reputation damage and force to apologize live
@SuperCityMCFC
@SuperCityMCFC 6 ай бұрын
Is anyone following the pattern, the rules were made by our rivals, the rules were adjusted to ensure we failed, we defend ourselves and our lawyers are too good, now the money we spend on lawyers should be counted towards FFP....that's what Simon hinted at. The entire thing is manufactured and City will clear their name.
@adammohamed..
@adammohamed.. 6 ай бұрын
Maybe because your rivals are not a nation state , which to be fair Newcastle is as well and 3 times as big as City. The Prem has got themselves in a mess, 1st with Abramovich , then the leveraged buyout at United and finally the one two punch of unlimited oil money. This is on the PREMIER LEAGUE and we need an independent regulator to sort this out. The league cant keep its hand out the cookie jar and seem to be obsessed with these unsaved characters that couldn’t care less about our clubs. These are OUR clubs not billionaires and unlike Germany we dont have a say. Althgough we never win , Levy at Spurs simply wont risk our finacial future trying to compete. I just hope we dont end up with a yank like Chelsea. How do you spend a billion and end mid table.
@SuperCityMCFC
@SuperCityMCFC 6 ай бұрын
@@adammohamed.. Utter nonsense...stopped reading at Newcastle are bigger than City haha 😂
@adammohamed..
@adammohamed.. 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperCityMCFC Saudi are at least 3 times more wealthy than the emirates, ( of which you are owned by the biggest of the 7 Emirates ) Saudi have $1 trillion invested in America alone.
@SuperCityMCFC
@SuperCityMCFC 6 ай бұрын
@@adammohamed.. Irrelevant if you can't spend it
@AlexSmith-bi9yf
@AlexSmith-bi9yf 6 ай бұрын
Did your rivals pay Mancini from a private bank ?
@thor8419
@thor8419 6 ай бұрын
They've said it could take 5-10 years to settle these 115 charges against City. A financial settlement is definitely MOST LIKELY!
@albertmcmullen2669
@albertmcmullen2669 6 ай бұрын
Jordan, can't stop talking and interrupting. He has to prove daily how clever and articulate he is. He fully beleves his words and statements are sacrosanct.
@baserakoodie554
@baserakoodie554 6 ай бұрын
I think Simon does not understand the legal process involved. Both sides have able lawyers ,some getting paid ridiculous amounts.The fact is that some of the best young sport lawyers are not even involved in this case. In the 21st century you will find many many lawyers who have experience and knowledge of sports law. The case will be won or loss on the facts and evidence presented, not on which lawyers are employed. Thanks.
@kevinmurphy1880
@kevinmurphy1880 6 ай бұрын
Most sensible comment I’ve seen so far. No support from me for city here, but to assume they’ve been able to lopsidedly spend their way into winning a legal battle based on the skill of their representatives is beyond naive.
@howardhasan576
@howardhasan576 6 ай бұрын
Simon has completely missed the point
@Bewar3them00n
@Bewar3them00n 6 ай бұрын
Difficult when your wearing such hateful blinkers
@Sproles11
@Sproles11 6 ай бұрын
That’s all he seems to do when it comes to this stuff
@Bluearmy76
@Bluearmy76 5 ай бұрын
@@ancient1946so have you 😂
@bradsays
@bradsays 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how much Stefan Borson is getting paid by City to be their public spin doctor?
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants 6 ай бұрын
Same amount as you for sucking boys off.
@visalvimal6968
@visalvimal6968 6 ай бұрын
how much is sky , bbc gets paid by red cartel clubs to br their propaganda machine to tarnish city?
@Sproles11
@Sproles11 6 ай бұрын
He’s the only person that speaks fairly about City on this topic. He’s not even spinning anything
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 6 ай бұрын
So the pl changed a team 115 times but are now afraid to go on with the case because money will be lost? Wtf? They should have known that from start, who they are up against, right?
@Pa-pb6kb
@Pa-pb6kb 6 ай бұрын
Whatever happens the pl must not back down, crowdfund if necessary
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 6 ай бұрын
​@@Pa-pb6kbAnd if the pl lose?
@Pa-pb6kb
@Pa-pb6kb 6 ай бұрын
@@GermanChickenwing do you think justice should be dictated by whether you can intimidate one of the parties involved? If they lose they lose
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 6 ай бұрын
@@Pa-pb6kb How can City do that with money? The pl are the once changing City not the other way around
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz
@DavidRegaL-lw5xz 6 ай бұрын
​@@GermanChickenwingthe bindippers will probably help crowdfund them, that's if they can get a job 😂
@whyimsmarterthanyou
@whyimsmarterthanyou 6 ай бұрын
Poor Simon. The lad is twisting himself into knots trying to craft a narrative that a Prem who settles has been bullied by City's capacity to lawyer-up. By all means, Simon, ignore an inconvenient reality that a Prem who settles is indictive of said league not having the there-there to substantiate they allegations. If the Prem turtles after being so certain about their case . . . that is a harsh repudiation of their character and integrity as an organization. For shame, Prem. For shame. Pray for Simon, fam. Lad's going to be subject to some awful stick.
@salkel8617
@salkel8617 6 ай бұрын
If premier league had evidence against city it wouldn't take so much time ! That's tell you a volume. Simon don't want to hear the truth!
@Ramps-rc9iy
@Ramps-rc9iy 6 ай бұрын
Get it right, it’s the cheats lawyers that have stalled it from going to court, why would they do this if your lot aren’t guilty.
@Samivermusic
@Samivermusic 6 ай бұрын
If you take away the time spent in legal hearings between the PL and city it's not been that long considering the number of years the allegations relate to.
@fordcass4325
@fordcass4325 6 ай бұрын
How many charges to get through can't wait for the result
@Chris-oz9qx
@Chris-oz9qx 6 ай бұрын
The PL clearly does have evidence if it's charged them 115 times. 😂😂
@broman1429
@broman1429 6 ай бұрын
​@@Chris-oz9qxdoesn't work like that cause they are still looking for the so called evidence
@kindo4703
@kindo4703 6 ай бұрын
The 115 case has become a liability for the Premier League, because they failed to do their due diligence💀
@asiam9788
@asiam9788 6 ай бұрын
PL should never contemplate a settlement, truth needs to be upheld and if guilty proper punishment given…example made, so that no one ever tries to UNDERMINE the best league in the world!
@tomcrown9546
@tomcrown9546 6 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan ruined that discussion with his constant interruptions and talking over Borsen. No point having an expert on if an amateur constantly talks over them. Jim needs to do his job and control the discussion.
@gerainthopkins7576
@gerainthopkins7576 6 ай бұрын
as soon as Etihad airways goes on the stock market the whole case is gone and the Premier league is open to a huge settlement paid to City for dragging their name through the mud.
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 6 ай бұрын
I think, if they settle with Man City, the other 19 clubs should pull out of the competition immediately
@IanDavis-fs8dd
@IanDavis-fs8dd 6 ай бұрын
You don't even know what they have or haven't done.
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 6 ай бұрын
@@IanDavis-fs8dd I’m not claiming to know
@rgaskell6099
@rgaskell6099 6 ай бұрын
Jordan interrupts all the time when he’s losing the argument
@bigbadbluenoserfc
@bigbadbluenoserfc 6 ай бұрын
it really is obvious when simon is debating someone who knows his stuff in his industry was the same with hearn in boxing, simon is really easy to tell when hes out his depth and its happening more and more these days
@joehart3826
@joehart3826 6 ай бұрын
He is still broadly a quality presenter if not the best he ain't perfect though
@OfficialFA
@OfficialFA 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, his head is too far up his own ass...
@Abattoirville
@Abattoirville 6 ай бұрын
Why does Simon interrupt Steffan before he has a chance to reply?
@kevanskelton9982
@kevanskelton9982 6 ай бұрын
The legal fees are a red herring. Both parties, and any premier league club, have enough money to hire the top level of barristers and solicitors for as long as needed.
@GamingInTheFASTLANE
@GamingInTheFASTLANE 6 ай бұрын
give premier league a load of money and it all goes away
@chris-kn4ll
@chris-kn4ll 6 ай бұрын
“Not because I want one” Simon referring to not wanting a settlement. There you have it folks. Simon confirming he doesn’t want Man City escaping punishment.
@frasierfreak92
@frasierfreak92 6 ай бұрын
Nobody should want a settlement. If rules have been broken, there should be punishments. Simple.
@chris-kn4ll
@chris-kn4ll 6 ай бұрын
@@frasierfreak92 and if rules haven’t been broken then equally there should be punishment. Punishment for all the media propaganda and misinformation and witch-hunt against Manchester City
@cheesybellend6842
@cheesybellend6842 6 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan and everyone who isn’t a city fan , bravo sir jordan
@chris-kn4ll
@chris-kn4ll 6 ай бұрын
@@frasierfreak92 and if the rules haven’t been broken, there should be equal punishment to anyone else involved in this which hunt against Man City
@kontomylitis
@kontomylitis 6 ай бұрын
You guys have no topic. Slow news day. City won't settle. They're innocent
@rickrennyoneill
@rickrennyoneill 6 ай бұрын
how do you know they;re innocent
@madeinengland9488
@madeinengland9488 6 ай бұрын
@@rickrennyoneillinnocent until proven guilty that’s how
@B1G_Dave
@B1G_Dave 6 ай бұрын
Asking an ex Man City financial advisor, about Man City's fraud, is like asking a thief about a stolen painting.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 6 ай бұрын
He has nothing to do with the current owners. He handled the sale to Thakshin Shiniwatra.
@samroberts6697
@samroberts6697 6 ай бұрын
@@russellward4624doesn’t suit the plastic agenda unfortunately Russell. Man City…..the excuse for everyone else’s clubs failings 😂
@1159geoff
@1159geoff 6 ай бұрын
One that knows what he's talking about and Simon Jordan.
@rj6657
@rj6657 6 ай бұрын
Lost all credibility this bloke S.B
@Gdatshim
@Gdatshim 6 ай бұрын
how so?
@nickchivers9029
@nickchivers9029 6 ай бұрын
​@@Gdatshim probably said something OP doesnt agree with.
@me4374
@me4374 5 ай бұрын
They’ve got to get relegation and titles stripped, otherwise the game has lost all credibility. 115 FC are just pure corruption
@carl3681
@carl3681 6 ай бұрын
The prem will be losing sleep hoping City settle with them ...they are slowly drowning.
@khemchanpersaud6739
@khemchanpersaud6739 6 ай бұрын
"And there's no corruption, of course" lmao...
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 6 ай бұрын
- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool never called Hackers FC - City found Not Guilty in Court - City regardless are called Cheats?🤣
@adetayoadesola7306
@adetayoadesola7306 6 ай бұрын
Simon's smirk when Stefan said they are commercial people haha
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
The problem is, Simon is too emotional about it. Stefan talks from the perspective of cold hard facts and is completely emotionless about it. Simon wants it to be true with all his heart and he can't keep that emotion out of his language and behaviour.
@shamus3477
@shamus3477 6 ай бұрын
​​@@leighhudson9279if it wasn't for time frame technicality than city would have been banned from Europe. Obviously some sort of truth to it
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
@@shamus3477 that's completely wrong. You are just regurgitating the same uninformed nonsense that the fan on the street believed to be true because of the way the media chose to report it. The court papers are there to be read. Most of the evidence was not time barred and all were deemed to be insufficient evidence. The time-barring is a pink elephant!
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
@@shamus3477 that's just not correct. Go and read the court papers. The majority of evidence was not time-barred but was found to be insufficient. The minority was time barred but was noted in the court papers that it was considered no more on favour of uefas case than the rest of it. Please read the court papers before trying to talk about it as a matter of knowledge.
@Seannn1
@Seannn1 6 ай бұрын
@@shamus3477 God you are an absolute moron
@LdevArt
@LdevArt 6 ай бұрын
VAR and corruption in the Premier League has ruined football. They can shove it-their 'greed is good' ethos is obscene. You can keep it- i would rather watch non-league football and womens football. More skill, more honesty, more players playing for the love of the game in their local communities
@creasicle
@creasicle 6 ай бұрын
If the Premier League agree to settle for a financial sum I will fully get behind your comment but I think FIFA have to set the standard. As Simon likes to say the fish rots from the head down. When FIFA are handing World Cups to warmongering, murdering megalomaniacs it's hard to ask the leagues beneath them to set a standard of irreproachable virtue.
@ConnieStevens7
@ConnieStevens7 6 ай бұрын
💯💯 agree with both of u! This is a joke now, it can’t go on any longer
@mariechu6123
@mariechu6123 6 ай бұрын
You lost an element of support with the frankly ridiculous "more skill" bit. Don' be silly.
@LdevArt
@LdevArt 6 ай бұрын
@@mariechu6123 come back with something remotely intelligent to add when you have rewatched the WOMENS EUROS AND WOMENS WORLD CUP-HIGH SKILL ON DISPLAY.
@mariechu6123
@mariechu6123 6 ай бұрын
@@LdevArt I assume you are joking . Hilarious nonsense.
@wayneshone3471
@wayneshone3471 6 ай бұрын
They’ll get away with it 😂 you’ll see
@tast7017
@tast7017 6 ай бұрын
Jordan says he’s got no agenda against city then goes on to speak like they’re definitely guilty
@TheMrClutchy
@TheMrClutchy 6 ай бұрын
All this man does is give a fact based opinion and everyone acts like he’s a paid up city fan 😂
@solskjaer1195
@solskjaer1195 6 ай бұрын
He is a Man City fan though. Has been all his life too. He can't be objective on this.
@HC-np2hb
@HC-np2hb 6 ай бұрын
@@solskjaer1195 who can be objective on it? certainly not united, liverpool, arsenal fans etc.
@solskjaer1195
@solskjaer1195 6 ай бұрын
@@HC-np2hb The PL can. Why would they pick on City for no reason? Viewing figures aren't down on the league. It doesn't make sense. City have been rumbled and they don't like it. That's all this is about. There's no way 115 charges can all be errors.
@djn1856
@djn1856 6 ай бұрын
@@solskjaer1195Who owns the premier league?
@dylanb.117
@dylanb.117 6 ай бұрын
​@@solskjaer1195 guess which 2 clubs decided the head of the Premier League?
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 6 ай бұрын
The right question is whether Pep will choose to settle with PL and the answer is absolutely NO!! Pep is a greedy serial winner..He wants to win everything
@multipl3
@multipl3 6 ай бұрын
Wont be down to pep to 'settle'
@CTRLALTNUKE
@CTRLALTNUKE 6 ай бұрын
@@multipl3 Pep manages all the accounts receivable and payable through Salesforce before he takes training every day.
@halldd
@halldd 6 ай бұрын
Fraudiola
@theo9372
@theo9372 6 ай бұрын
The f would it have to do with pep, hes just the manager not the ceo.
@singingthebluestv
@singingthebluestv 6 ай бұрын
Translation. Let us try and make out that if city are cleared its because of the money available. Rubbish
@caymanjoe2527
@caymanjoe2527 6 ай бұрын
Always love it when stefan Borson is on talk sport!! He talks a lot of sense and puts Simon Jordan to shame.. 😊
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 6 ай бұрын
If this is true then the pl have failed.. How can you changed someone 115 time and then looking for settlement? What type of settlement are they even thinking of? Pay City some money?
@neilfarricker8632
@neilfarricker8632 6 ай бұрын
because they have zero evidence to win the case
@CTRLALTNUKE
@CTRLALTNUKE 6 ай бұрын
PL are always making errors.
@Ramps-rc9iy
@Ramps-rc9iy 6 ай бұрын
@@neilfarricker8632No that’s you’re opinion not a fact, big difference.
@neilfarricker8632
@neilfarricker8632 6 ай бұрын
@@Ramps-rc9iy Same as UEFA who had no evidence either. That's a fact for you
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 6 ай бұрын
​@@Ramps-rc9iywhat's the evidence then?
@glenngibbions
@glenngibbions 6 ай бұрын
Jordan being a knob as per usual........zzzzzz
@21Cul21
@21Cul21 6 ай бұрын
When did Stefan work for Man City?
@theo9372
@theo9372 6 ай бұрын
Before the sheikh talkover, he helped in city being sold to the ex thai prime minister. He had nothing to do with the sheikh buyout.
@21Cul21
@21Cul21 6 ай бұрын
@theo9372 No, I was just asking the question as I did not know thanks for giving me the information
@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh
@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh 6 ай бұрын
He's a man 115 city fan , mate...
@Mancunianblue
@Mancunianblue 6 ай бұрын
@@TonyODOnnell-tt8gh😴
@Blacky-label
@Blacky-label 6 ай бұрын
I've been saying for a while now, man city will beat this
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 6 ай бұрын
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
@shah.server
@shah.server 6 ай бұрын
Simon looks almost desperate here.
@zerus4435
@zerus4435 6 ай бұрын
That's it, i'm no longer a united fan. I will start to support City, the best club in manchester & england.
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 6 ай бұрын
Stop acting like you haven't in all these years 😂😂
@TheFudbalKlub
@TheFudbalKlub 6 ай бұрын
City settle: they want to avoid a trial and possibly money lost PL settle: they want to avoid being made fools for the chargers and possible money lost Either outcome means no one knows for sure the truth.
@Dean-f2c
@Dean-f2c 6 ай бұрын
Why do they invite Stefan, he is clearly on City payroll
@nickchivers9029
@nickchivers9029 6 ай бұрын
What evidence do you have of this?
@bluemoon1716
@bluemoon1716 6 ай бұрын
Because he doesn't indulge in the smear campaign? Take your hate blinkers off
@Dean-f2c
@Dean-f2c 6 ай бұрын
@@bluemoon1716 I understand your point, however to me he defends City all the time but not any other club. Just my opinion, City only guilty when proven so
@Ramm111
@Ramm111 6 ай бұрын
​@@Dean-f2cThat's because those other clubs u're referring to have already admitted to their guilt or have denied any wrong doing and were found to be guilty of those charges... City on the the other hand continue to maintain their innocence and so far the Premier League has yet to provide enough evidence to actually convict City for those charges
@Sproles11
@Sproles11 6 ай бұрын
@@Dean-f2c I wouldn’t say that he defends City. He just speaks about City and the entire situation impartially and based on the facts available. Nobody else is willing to do that, so it comes off as if he is defending the club
@phatmeow7764
@phatmeow7764 2 ай бұрын
IMHO a settlement is the worst outcome for the credibility n integrity of the EPL! if not even 1/115 charges could be proven true then an apology and possibly financial compensation should be going City's way? otherwise relegation and fine...
@kadiummusic
@kadiummusic 6 ай бұрын
Rules, are rules, are rules. If they've broken the rules throw the book at them. End of.
@SibongubukhoMangele-ek3hs
@SibongubukhoMangele-ek3hs 6 ай бұрын
Does the premier league have the evidence to back it up and are the people who were working at city that time managers etc willing to testify against city ? 🤷 think about that mate
@mkkravist11
@mkkravist11 6 ай бұрын
A settlement to 115 but not to anyone else? And that’s NOT anything to do with 115 being more powerful, intimidating and richer than the league, UEFA etc?? It’s smelling like a stitch up, boys. All other clubs should refuse the punishments pending the 115 outcome. Then we’ll see what’s what.
@user-ke6fj8cg6m
@user-ke6fj8cg6m 6 ай бұрын
Zzzzz
@4857i
@4857i 6 ай бұрын
If theres a financial settlement i am 100% behind FSG joining a super league with real madrid and barca and leaving the league immediately
@mrwho.4446
@mrwho.4446 6 ай бұрын
lol
@wilddragon78
@wilddragon78 5 ай бұрын
Borson is an absolute clown to think City won’t have a clear advantage with the resources they have. 😒
@TimG2553
@TimG2553 6 ай бұрын
I think for the good of the game settling would be a bad idea if they are proven to have broken the rules then they should be punished heavily as it sets the wrong precedent
@gillie-monger3394
@gillie-monger3394 6 ай бұрын
If the PL/FA settle with city i will positively campaign for a Super League because a settlement will be the death knell of English football as we know it.
@bensmit1821
@bensmit1821 6 ай бұрын
They can’t settle out of Court! It undermines the integrity of the whole League! If they get away with this! I don’t even know where to start!!!
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 6 ай бұрын
If the Premier League fail to adequately deal with Manchester City, then I hope the other 19 PL clubs have the sense to breakaway and form a new league.
@madeinengland9488
@madeinengland9488 6 ай бұрын
You sound about 12 years old get a grip
@petuser1
@petuser1 6 ай бұрын
a "cease and desist notice " notice is issued knowing your in a strong position
@phillydavison
@phillydavison 6 ай бұрын
If they don't face any consequences for their actions given what the league has done to Everton and Notts Forrest then what is the point anymore.
@desmo998rr
@desmo998rr 6 ай бұрын
Simon does love a soapbox
@Gagsy10
@Gagsy10 6 ай бұрын
Why do talksport insist on getting in Borson, who's one goal it is to defend City?
@salkel8617
@salkel8617 6 ай бұрын
He is defending the truth
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
How is he defending city? He's just stating facts. It's not rich vs poor, neither side have a financial advantage because both can afford the highest quality councel. That's just a fact. He has always said, if city are found guilty, the punishment will be massive! But it's a big if!
@Ramps-rc9iy
@Ramps-rc9iy 6 ай бұрын
@@leighhudson9279I think it’s a big if regarding you lot getting away with this, no smoke without fire.
@ben_jam
@ben_jam 6 ай бұрын
Balance
@embody_your_awakening
@embody_your_awakening 6 ай бұрын
Stefan is a huge city fan! I grew up with him
@mattd5236
@mattd5236 6 ай бұрын
Settlement will herald the end of the PL. Too many other clubs have had sanctions and penalties placed upon them to allow such a position to pass.
@LeominsterFC
@LeominsterFC 6 ай бұрын
Moron, those other clubs admitted to their charge. Man City have 115 and deny all of them. Pretty easy to see why the first two have been handled quickly and the latter is still ongoing. But that doesn’t fit your narrative so carry on.
@beniwal.mayank
@beniwal.mayank 6 ай бұрын
Settlement is the best way to go , 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@ghettablkgffb
@ghettablkgffb 6 ай бұрын
Points reduction and more . Can't just be a settlement
@cebu7743
@cebu7743 6 ай бұрын
You must be a City fan 🤣
@linimcfc715
@linimcfc715 6 ай бұрын
Yeah for the prem. If I was City I'd take them to the cleaners.
@judesterkyberneticka3598
@judesterkyberneticka3598 6 ай бұрын
one rule for city.
@London666_UK
@London666_UK 6 ай бұрын
Why do they keep getting this Richard Nixon lookalike on?
@ashleymoore9063
@ashleymoore9063 6 ай бұрын
I will always argue the opposite position no matter how insane that appears .Thanks Simon
@choysum
@choysum 6 ай бұрын
Does the settlement also involves compensating the other teams? Because it’s the other teams that suffer not the PL!
@jimmyniful
@jimmyniful 6 ай бұрын
If they allow City to settle, you can rename the Premier League the Man City League.
@leighhudson9279
@leighhudson9279 6 ай бұрын
Allow city to settle??? It would be the premier league wanting to settle because they know they can't win in court!
@mark4045
@mark4045 4 ай бұрын
If Man City aren’t prosecuted and punished then I will never watch football again. How do they go from a second division club to the second most valuable club in the world in about 15 years. They have done it because of the financial issues that they are being accused of doing wrongly. There’s no way that they can go from being the second division club to the worlds second most valuable club without doing it. They don’t have the fan base or the global appeal to do that. There whole financial structure is based on dodgy deals and creative sponsorship deals which is exactly what they are being investigated for. If they don’t get punished then it’ll be an absolute disgrace
@ducati916SPS
@ducati916SPS 6 ай бұрын
In football as in Business he who has the deepest pockets Wins!!
@deividas_kimontas
@deividas_kimontas 6 ай бұрын
They will get away! 🤑😖
@barryhobbs3743
@barryhobbs3743 3 ай бұрын
The key thing Simon Jordan said was that the person in the room with the most money will win. In the Talk Sport studio, that's you Simon. You're just a bully and we all know that.
@JustinCooperMarsh
@JustinCooperMarsh 6 ай бұрын
Shouldn't be allowed to settle. They have cheated their way to countless trophies and should be punished accordingly when found guilty.
@BasherBrown
@BasherBrown 6 ай бұрын
Jordan’s hatred for City is obvious,he’s going to hate it when city are found not guilty
@Ruscococo1
@Ruscococo1 6 ай бұрын
Man City need to give certain evidence which they won't give, they did it in the UEFA case and then put in a little info later on which meant it wasn't conclusive evidence. They will do the same and get charged for maybe one or two charges which will be a 6 point deduction. It means Forest and Everton are happy, its sort of obvious what will happen.
@Samivermusic
@Samivermusic 6 ай бұрын
The UK courts ruled that man city had to provide information to the PL for the investigation and make enquiries of third parties. I am pretty sure I read in a legal journal they had complied with that ruling.
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants 6 ай бұрын
Another KZbin lawyer 😂
@tbone2646
@tbone2646 6 ай бұрын
Money truly does solve all problems
@whoknew2273
@whoknew2273 6 ай бұрын
a fine means nothing to these people
@AAL-mu8ms
@AAL-mu8ms 6 ай бұрын
These people? What's your people made off then? Go on, tell me your club let me break it down and embarrass you
@whoknew2273
@whoknew2273 6 ай бұрын
@@AAL-mu8ms yes John you break it down lol
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 6 ай бұрын
come on mate who do you support
@zachy7461
@zachy7461 6 ай бұрын
​@@AAL-mu8msyour poor grammar and overall use of the English language is genuinely embarrassing.
@John-cj9er
@John-cj9er 6 ай бұрын
@@AAL-mu8mswhat’s the club he supports got to do with it? The state of Abu Dhabi have ridiculous wealth, he’s right a fine would mean nothing to them. Only points deductions or a transfer ban would hurt
@Charlotteeelotte
@Charlotteeelotte 6 ай бұрын
Why cant they prove one of the 115 charges and take 5 points of city this season ? If they cant even prove one charge this whole thing is bs.
@nickchivers9029
@nickchivers9029 6 ай бұрын
Because that's not how it works dummy.
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants
@My_Big_Blue_Underpants 6 ай бұрын
😂Clueless
@dandrews.89
@dandrews.89 6 ай бұрын
Simon is bang on, City will bury the Premier League in legal fees if they can. It’s fucked
@Sproles11
@Sproles11 6 ай бұрын
That simply isn’t a possibility here
@Jayslo1357
@Jayslo1357 6 ай бұрын
As a fan of a pl club, I don't really want to see city being able to settle their way out of regulatory fraud. I mean ffs, should rich criminals just be allowed to pay their way out of punishments??
@roberteshun1376
@roberteshun1376 6 ай бұрын
Why everyone seems to believe city are settling their way out. Maybe it is the premier league that can not back up their allegations. The comment here seems so one-sided. I'm pretty sure if the league can nail city, then they won't hesitate to do so. The fact that they even charged them means they intented on punishing city if they were found guilty. Any form of settlement is on the epl , bcos why will u settle if u can find someone guilty.
@Jayslo1357
@Jayslo1357 6 ай бұрын
@roberteshun1376 yeah well we'll see won't they. They did say the source may not be reliable. It may be that the settlement talk is all made up. However one reason why settlement might be attractive is due to the risk of the loser paying all the legal fees. If premier league assess there to be a risk of losing, they might accept city pay a massive fine possibly and cover the cost of both sides legal fees. For city, that might be an attractive outcome but the PL clubs won't be happy if there is no points deduction
@madeinengland9488
@madeinengland9488 6 ай бұрын
@@Jayslo1357city won’t settle now they should take the premier league to court
@roberteshun1376
@roberteshun1376 6 ай бұрын
@@Jayslo1357 u make a valid point.
@Silverblue121
@Silverblue121 6 ай бұрын
If only, Simon could keep quiet and allow the guests to answer the question that has been asked.
@adammohamed..
@adammohamed.. 6 ай бұрын
its getting boring now. Premier League we know you are scared stiff of City`s power outside of football , just clear them as it isnt fair on the fans ( City have some of the best in England , very loyal )
@kriswheeler5686
@kriswheeler5686 6 ай бұрын
Smarmy lawyers doing shady things👊🏼 So glad QPR got done all them years ago. We’ve almost finished paying off getting promoted
@scottpurchase-y7r
@scottpurchase-y7r 6 ай бұрын
Paste and repeat, for gods sake this guy is on every week and the same conversation happens. Wake up talksport and put something new on.
@embody_your_awakening
@embody_your_awakening 6 ай бұрын
Stefan is about as entertaining as a rotting fish
@KeanoR850
@KeanoR850 6 ай бұрын
If they settle every premier league team should boycott every game involving the 115 club!!!
@madeinengland9488
@madeinengland9488 6 ай бұрын
Just give city the 3 points every week then lol good logic
@DavidAugustine-lc4cj
@DavidAugustine-lc4cj Ай бұрын
If Fred and Rose West had Citys Lawyers defending them, they would have walked out of Court! Money corrupts. 😂
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 6 ай бұрын
Arsenal FC are mocked for finishing 2nd to a club owned by a country with 115 charges waiting to be heard. That’s crazy
@ma466
@ma466 6 ай бұрын
Don’t blame MC for Arsenal downfall in title race. It’s Arsenal to be accounted for not keeping up the pace.
@mancuniangamecat8288
@mancuniangamecat8288 6 ай бұрын
@alexbelotti1603 Innocent and try coping harder.
@tomadams94
@tomadams94 6 ай бұрын
@@ma466that’s not the point…
@AAL-mu8ms
@AAL-mu8ms 6 ай бұрын
Better than a country (Britain) that supplied Israel ( mainly Eastern European immigrants) with bombs to murder women and children.
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 6 ай бұрын
​@@tomadams94yeah the point is Arsenal playing in a league with financial cheating and getting external finances from Americans and Oil states yet their fans still complains.. if Arsenal was in any league but prem they wouldn't even be in top 20 big clubs
@suvinmicheal
@suvinmicheal 6 ай бұрын
Lets not forget the beautiful football they played
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