"FOOTBALL WILL GO BUST!" Simon Jordan SLAMS Mino Raiola & Jonathan Barnett over salary caps

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[@Red-tm1bs]

Can't help but love Simon Jordan... How can someone be such a complete and utter arse hole but still so likeable!? 😂😂

[@haroldgodwinson7241]

Intelligent arseholes are often likeable, because they usually say it how it is haha

[@cullyx2913]

😂 😂 😂 👍

[@Aman1012]

Why does he remind me of Tony Adams

[@pizzagateisreal]

@@Aman1012 because you're drunk like Tony

[@lovejoy3347]

The most alarming and unsustainable thing about fooball is the fact that you have your Alexis Sanchez's, Mesut Ozil's, Willian's and Gareth Bales, all on £350k - £650k a week, for years to come, when they should be nowhere near the game anymore.

[@ronoccc]

not to mention people like mourinho getting paid huge severance packages for getting sacked club after club

[@grantmcphee5149]

@@ronoccc Nah, that's not comparable. It's not reasonable for someone to be given a multi year contract then get sacked 2 months later and lose all that income they were promised.

[@sonicanimalcrazy007]

@@ronoccc Clubs should know better. Jose is taking the piss and ruining clubs for the last 6 years.

[@lovejoy3347]

@@ronoccc Totally correct. He must have recieved about 15 years Salary over the last 8 years when he inevitably gets the boot from Spurs. Where is the incentive to be a successful manager anymore when you can earn your 5 year contracted salary in just 18 months and move onto the next mugs?.

[@ronoccc]

@@grantmcphee5149 nonsense. There’s no other industry that operates like football. They shouldn’t be offering him that long a contract.

[@stephenhodgson3506]

I remember a few years ago when Beckham started going out with Victoria she was shocked as to what went on with his agent. She told him he was getting ripped off by his agent and that nobody in the music business would have an agent that carried on like that. The agents are supposed to work for the players and the first change that football should make is to make it illegal for clubs or countries to pay agents. The agents work for the players and should be paid by the players. FIFA should make it a condition that for any agent to be registered then he can only receive money from his client.

[@russellward4624]

She was very lucky because the deals in the music business are way worse. The record company usually owns the rights to the songs you write. They own the master recordings. And now they get a percentage of everything you make where in the past you got all the money from concerts and tshirt sales. The music business is the most abusive deals in business.

[@78bcat]

It's an argument about nothing though. A player, with whoever advises him, decides "I'm worth $10 million" and ultimately the club agrees. Lets say the agent fee is 10%, well right now that club pays...but if you change that, then the club still pays an extra million it just goes through the player. Simon imagines that players will suddenly chuck agents and the clock will be turned back 40 years is pure fantasy.

[@senzokai3156]

@@78bcat This is exactly what I was thinking as I listened to Simon. As right as he is from the standpoint of a need for regulatory introductions on this point, shifting the mode of payment on players won't change the hyperinflation caused by agents and clubs. The same amount of money will just change hands differently.

[@tfg622]

Just implement the Football Manager wage/transfer budget slider and we're sorted

[@stephenowen6862]

Always love listening to Simon. Knows what he's talking about and doesn't mince his words

[@whoinventedmonday]

Hate agents. They're all leeches on the game.

[@angrybrit7331]

Problem could be solved by simply licensing sport lawyers

[@haroldgodwinson7241]

Parasites

[@stephenmcguire1935]

Cudnt off said it any better ma self. They own to many football players etc. It's all about money

[@alexavfclineham7301]

Simon is the best presenter on talksport and one of the only ones that knows what they're talking about, he's spot on again

[@melvyndolby8625]

100 % in agreement. Could listen to him all day

[@alexavfclineham7301]

@@melvyndolby8625 definitely

[@The-Audi-driver]

Premier league players should sign a contract for 30k a week wages. and 20k for championship. If players want more they gotta win things to be rewarded. Say 5k per trophy. So if a player ends his career with 130k a week he’s a few things. Not just had a good ten min spell and gets a play rise from 15 k to 50 k. N if they say they need more because they’re retiring, tell them get a fuckin job at Tesco or something

[@ay613]

That is class.

[@senzokai3156]

Such an astute comment. Well done, mate.

[@gingeritalianoo]

The money the clubs would save in theory would only go back to the owners anyway. Guarentee 99% of clubs won't invest it back into the clubs, so better for players who majority come from working class background get the money in my opinion.

[@shanestitt4225]

Always good to hear this guy's views. Top stuff and always speaks sense

[@markshepherd7861]

Simon is the best part of talksport 👍

[@davekirkwood3540]

If you're a top footballer why do you need an agent hire a solicitor to overlook your contracts etc

[@musicwithguitars]

Say what you want about Simon Jordan but he’s the only pundit in a sea of mediocrity that both says it how it is and stands up to the Raiola’s of this world. He’s far more interesting than any other pundit

[@mohammedmukhtarali4025]

Simon Jordan should come on super Sunday, MNF. He should be a pundit and also replace piers Morgan on GMB

[@larnacaAAA]

He does love saying “notion” doesnt he. 🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisb4474]

😂😂😂

[@MegaMoney786]

Simon jordan is the best footy commentator on tv

[@jbarham2668]

He’s awful what are u talking about

[@greatestanalyser2354]

Jbarham facts

[@MegaMoney786]

@@jbarham2668 he brings his corporate and business knowledge into the frame, that many pundits dont have experience of

[@melvyndolby8625]

@@jbarham2668 i could listen to Simon all day, he knows what he is talking about. He always gives both sides of the debate, and tells you the reality of it all

[@jbarham2668]

@@melvyndolby8625 his experience in football was nearly sinking a club he hasn’t got any idea about football

[@ih4447]

Football is the only industry were people from poor backgrounds can become rich en masse. Go cap landlords, bankers politicians, private equity firms etc. These rich posh people cannot stand it when working class people start making money.

[@kinomusic9110]

En masse? A League 2 player makes on average about 40k a year (many much less). Regardless, the point is, if football goes bust there won't be anyone earning anything

[@davidbatey1932]

I think your missing the point...it’s nothing to do with certain players becoming rich, it’s players earning more money than the clubs can afford to pay them at lower levels

[@greatestanalyser2354]

I agree with you but it’s not just about that though. But I do agree with that point

[@rc9719]

@@davidbatey1932 then the clubs should nit offer them that money simple as

[@magicjack4076]

Not sure what clubs would be sustainable maybe Liverpool and Leicester but the problem with the league is that the lower teams rely too much on tv money and the “top 6” wage budget are so aburd for all the mediocre players

[@melvyndolby8625]

I read somewhere around 3yr ago that Man Utd could still turnover without people coming through the gate, as they had such a huge financial input coming in through the commercial side of the club

[@chrisjameson2292]

Football agents only care about their commission. They are football agents, they are not football managers. The only way to control these agents are salary caps. 👍👍

[@cartooncartel6493]

You dont think when you speak do you?

[@chrisjameson2292]

@@cartooncartel6493 I got 10 likes for it. You don’t have any. 10-0. Also it’s ‘you don’t think when you type do you’ in this situation as you don’t hear me speaking do you? You don’t think when you read do you...

[@sebastianjosephmarkjones9332]

You need salary caps, it's getting ridiculous

[@gerryz8216]

It’s very rare that I agree with Simon Jordan on anything but he’s spot on here

[@TizerisT.]

Listen, what Jordan says is real. You cannot have, in the year 2050, a player costing 1 billion. However, that is the current trajectory. The bubble will eventually burst.

[@johnnydynomite7160]

If I was a football chairman I would implement a salary cap.

[@declanoconnell7555]

S Jordan is one smart guy.talks lot of sense

[@amanplayz518]

No he doesn’t 😂

[@amanplayz518]

He should win the award for most bull shit spoken in 2021

[@chrismac2234]

Simon is a footballer with an education! That's fairly rare.

[@dillcarver7731]

Try supporting Leyton Orient, we've always been bust.

[@julianbanks1885]

No one asked you to support such a $hit team either. You gotta have really low standards.

[@dillcarver7731]

@@julianbanks1885 No one asked me to support the Orient, true. I was born near the ground. My Grandfather worked as a groundsman there after WW1, My father took me to matches before I can remember. I walked to every home game and stood with my family, uncles and cousins and my mates. Everyone I knew supported the Orient, I was born into it and didn't even know you could choose your club. Like being born in England, you are English, you don't claim to be French or Dutch. Once you support a club you can never, ever change; it is unthinkable. You are probably a filthy disgusting glory shopper and choose to support Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, PSG, Barcelona or whoever is successful at any time. We are from different worlds if you think you can simply choose your team.

[@tomben6180]

@@dillcarver7731 Agree with everything you’ve said but I’m a Manchester City fan who’s local, who went throughout the tough times and my great grandad was born in Moss Side, in a house where you could smell the beer from Maine Road on match day. The guy above is 100% a Utd or Liverpool fan, guaranteed.

[@dillcarver7731]

@@tomben6180 Fair play!!!!! I meant the 'new' Man City fans who never saw Maine road because they 'chose' to support another club before they chose City.

[@tomben6180]

@@dillcarver7731 I’m from Manchester so don’t know any of those but I am sure they’re around.

[@stephenkellie-area51]

Should look at win and lose payments I don’t know but that could help????

[@footballequalslife7452]

You can't mean the players?

[@Leer1969]

Wish Simon Jordan would buy out Chansiri at SWFC 🦉and get my club back on the right path,speaks so much sense

[@wthwasthat8884]

Simon Jordan would know about spending money. He nearly bankrupted Crystal Palace by REFUSING to spend any money on them and nearly got the relegated to League 1 twice. How this clown is even employed to talk about football is beyond me. Talksport has gone to the dogs.

[@alansibley]

He always speaks a lot of sense. Transfer fees and players wages have got out of control. It’s absolutely ludicrous, however, nothing will change whilst little clubs are going to the wall. It needs one of the big boys to go bust before anything changes!

[@greatestanalyser2354]

This guy is trying to blame agents for his failure as a football owner and viewers can’t even see it 🥴🤦🏿‍♂️

[@rc9719]

thank you ,

[@lewisstefan2269]

No he’s not you melt he’s clearly thinking of the bigger picture open your ears next time smh

[@rc9719]

@@lewisstefan2269 how about clubs get their affairs in order and stop giving salaries they can’t afford 😳. It’s simple financial management is it ?

[@lewisstefan2269]

@Miguel Serrano Ham what’s African got to do with it?

[@AsyaValentine]

@Miguel Serrano Ham smh

[@footballoldboy4818]

Money killed the sport. Players should use the bus Busby Babes used to tell ladies they are plumbers coz ladies didn't want a man on no money who had to retire at 32. I like it like that. Miss the old 8000 standing room only stadiums too.

[@78bcat]

But if you want a salary cap, then it must be based on a collection of equals. Let's play FIFA. When I look at the PL, I can choose 3 teams that give me 150 million for transfers, then another 3 teams that give me 90 million for transfers. Well with those ""Big 6" capping the spending to 90 is fair and a path to competitive balance and creating a better product so soon those 90 million clubs have 150 and it grows with everybody benefitting But if I look at the other clubs, the ones that give me 10-30 million, it is unfair, it is the path of price fixing cartels in dictatorships, to cap spending at their levels and forcing the "Big 6" to shrink exponentially. However, if football was to enter the 21st century, end the provincialism, the protectionism, the nationalism, etc and evolve, then leagues would be organized amongst equals. The 20 clubs within the space of reasonable travel, all with the 90 million to meet the cap (which becomes a minimum, not just a max), form a league...then the clubs at the 50-80 million form a league, etc, etc. That creates an efficient, free market model, to benefit player and club alike, to create a product that encourages growth....rather than punishing success and trying to stay small.

[@Daltwan_Kenobi]

“Perfectly balanced, as all things should be”

[@Sufiyansodiq]

I’m 19 years old from Nigeria 🇳🇬, my name is Sufian Sodiq My dream is to become a footballer playing in pro level I really need help to pursue my career as a professional footballer and to boost my talent as a footballer

[@robinpayne3640]

He's fucking spot on about the business not working. The belief that 6 clubs can hold up the rest of football is just nonsense when the self interests of the players and agents dont follow the interest of either the clubs, fans or helping towards sustaining the sport financially.

[@kelvinmaxwell1379]

Simon Jordan is just genius says it like it is

[@iv9449]

Salary caps are rubbish - don't tell me the difference in earning between tier 1 Messi's of this world and Asenenso should be €50k. Pay Messi his worth - even if it's €600k week. Pay the talent.

[@cjj9127]

The talent I don’t mind being paid the parasites agents don’t deserve anything

[@lesliekay2097]

Salary caps are just stupid. Football club profits don't have a cap so players salary shouldn't be capped. I think a certain percentage of the income i.e 70 percent can be dedicated to the salaries - oh wait we already have it *Fifa fair play anyone*

[@timdurgan]

I think we all know FFP is a total joke

[@ryanflood635]

I disagree on this one. It’s a free market. Someone’s value / possible wages is up to the owners. If they are willing to pay X for a player then who is to say they can’t... Formula one is now about to start suffering the same thing. When you add a governing body to sport you end up with every team being the same, playing the same, costing the same. Fans want unleashed raw games. If Man City win every year then so be it.. it’s up to the others to come up with a plan to beat them. And money isn’t the problem anyway look at Chelsea... telling you if they start interfering and capping stuff it is a slippery slope to averageness.. it ends up being the same bland shit. And nobody actually knows who is the best because they are all held back by regulation.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

If it was a "free market", the top 6 would be making 90% of the profit in football and the PL would be as competitive as La Liga. Salary caps are gross though. They have them in the US, which should confirm that. They're a way for owners to limit what players can earn so they can maximise profits. Even though it's players who bring in the money.

[@israeldiegoriveragenius2th164]

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[@walkermorgan1710]

Damn Simon Jordan can talk man! Very eloquent and equivocal. Nice vocabulary too!

[@stephenmcguire1935]

Aye the both off thems should not be in football they own to many football players

[@voetbal12]

This is all nonsense. A club can't afford to pay the wages? They go bankrupt? So be it.

[@kyle-dt1vc]

That’s not what he’s saying

[@ryanflood635]

@@kyle-dt1vc that’s exactly what he is saying. He wants “sustainability” which is another word for regulation. Ie caps, bailouts. Support schemes. It should be a free market if they go bust they go bust. The owners need to keep an eye on it and make sure they invest enough or sell up. And if that isn’t enough then sort out the management of a club so that it doesn’t go bust. Just like every small business owner has to do every day.

[@timdurgan]

@@ryanflood635 He's more concerned with unsustainable market inflation driven by a small amount of players in an oligopoly. If a few players are driving up costs for the entire market, a small player either has to be financially unsustainable by paying more for the same asset OR they are driven out of the market through relegation. Simon's argument is that it's an unnatural cost increase in the market, driven by a few players, that unfairly impacts the rest of the market that can't bear the cost. It's a form of market manipulation that needs regulation to protect the "little man" and ensure the market remains competitive. It's not an unreasonable argument and there is precedent in every other industry, including sports (rugby has salary caps), to suggest that this avenue should be explored

[@ryanflood635]

@@timdurgan and that’s the problem. He sees it as an unnatural injection into the market. Who is he too say that ? Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay. I understand the concern but it doesn’t bother me. The market will do what it wants. Regulation leads to stale boring end product. If smaller teams can’t compete financially it forces them to look at different options. Ie play better football. This Man City Chelsea spend is unsustainable anyway so let them crack on. Also big spending is not a guarantee of success. Again I see why he thinks what he does but it leads to shitty sports that become stagnant.

[@rc9719]

@@ryanflood635 thank you for speaking sense , common financial management a lot of clubs have good wage structures some don't , those who don't invest and buy well should suffer the consequences .

[@TheMartinTD]

Simon talking sense

[@redmed10]

Raiola seems to have an out of proportion influence on football. His top 6 players give him that leverage. He's got 30 or 40 other players who are virtual unknowns.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Out of proportion to whom or what? Clubs have far more influence. It's amazing that players still tolerate being bought and sold like chattel. Raiola is just representing the interests of his players, like he should. Why should players be trapped at clubs and only be able to move when the chairman decides, and for a fee much higher than the value of their contract-- meaning that the club makes a huge profit on them?

[@redmed10]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 Name me any other agent. When I was talking about proportion I meant raiola is sometimes presented as almost running football. When he is one of many agents. I agree with you to a certain extent. Clubs have made their own handcuffs by taking advantage of agents in the past to one up their club rivals. You complain about transfer fees but those transfer fees keep some clubs alive.

[@senzokai3156]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 If you're going to talk about being bought and sold like cattle, that's the term of the contract. Football players are contractual employees. One of the perks of this, is getting paid no matter what you do, whether its play, waste time, wilt on the bench or spend your career recovering from injuries and being useless to the club who's paying your money. No other field will reward contribution like that, in such a consistent yet inflated way. Be real. You can't have it both ways.

[@kevineveritt3157]

Simon Jordan should get off the radio and back into running a club or perhaps shaking the fuddy duddys up who run our game and bring it into the 21st century... he talks so much common sense..any club would benefit from him at the helm

[@desmo998rr]

speaking about himself in the 3rd person, what an ego.

[@TheMartinTD]

Bitter much

[@desmo998rr]

@@TheMartinTD Why am I bitter?. I have no feelings towards the man and am only pointing out it's an egotistical trait to refer to yourself in the 3rd person. Explain how that is bitter, I'd like to see you try to do that instead of making some random stupid comment.

[@TheMartinTD]

@@desmo998rr the only random stupid comment was yours .

[@dilksjoel]

@@desmo998rr Who said referring to yourself in the 3rd person is egotistical? You? If so that's bold of you.

[@desmo998rr]

@@dilksjoel You can disagree but It's well known and actually has a name, Illeism, which maybe isn't so well known. Maybe learn something before criticising when you fail to see the point made.

[@ay613]

interesting discussion.

[@VileCAESARB]

So happy that this scheme is not being implemented, all it does is further solidify the big clubs position at the top table, same with FPP and this European league they speak of. Been witnessing this all my life time, rich get richer but they wanna pull the ladder up now.

[@Taporeee]

Salary cap when the owners have a profit cap

[@angrybrit7331]

90 percent of all money in football goes to players managers and agents the clubs have little

[@Taporeee]

@@angrybrit7331 Owners often asset strip and money launder or indebt clubs.

[@angrybrit7331]

@@Taporeee yes the full thing is corrupt but the clubs you are talking about are 5 percent the rest are dying clubs with wage bills they can not compete against

[@Taporeee]

@@angrybrit7331 Blackpool, Bolton, Bury... need I go on?

[@johnnydynomite7160]

Football needs to act and quick. There needs to a salary cap how unpalatable that might seem to some people otherwise football will eventually go bust.

[@paulos1878]

Every club should be allowed 4 top earners on the same money. Thats the way to keep it a sport. Football is nowhere near a sport anymore and FFP makes it more of a business than it ever was.

[@Daynasat]

Top class from Jordan there

[@24SparrowJack]

Football should do what the NBA and NFL, cap the salary

[@sheasavo11]

Simon Jordam used to own a football club? Would never have guessed it

[@jaisonpaget5270]

agents should get a 3% of the transfer fee maybe 3% of the signing on fee too

[@WrightCharlie93]

Simon Jordan v Mino is better than The Rock vs Steve Austin

[@stanthemafia]

Talking sense

[@kelvinmaxwell1379]

Got tv off lying in bed listening to Simon Jordan, it’s just football intelligence porn

[@bobjones304]

First time I've heard this guy talk sense.

[@theredking3070]

Football agents are scum of the earth.

[@imonlytellingthetruth6562]

Jordan talks the talk and is spot on. 👍

[@Englandsbestlover]

I don’t think he likes the Johnathon bloke

[@NibberKSmooth]

Ban all agents, done.

[@F_Dot_]

What time does this show air on the radio?

[@zgpm7031]

In the morning, 9-12 i think. Very good show.

[@daddymelon6853]

10am til 1pm

[@zgpm7031]

@@daddymelon6853 Thanks for the correction. I knew it was something like that

[@F_Dot_]

@@daddymelon6853 nice one 👍

[@F_Dot_]

@@zgpm7031 you weren't far off

[@spencersandmark]

Sanchez de gea pogba Ibra hmmmm

[@damiantosd8720]

Salary cap agents ha ha

[@russellward4624]

Actually just recently Man City sold 10% of the club for 400m. So yes they do get their money out of the club. They bought the club for 200m and have made double tgier investment back and still own 90% of the club. Clubs aren't only sold when they're in trouble.

[@jaewon679]

Simon Jordan for PM and I'm being serious

[@ghostjudy5493]

Another day another useless topic on Wokesport. Can't believe sensible person like Simon Jordan still working for them...

[@gomperhooblet]

Personally I find this stuff pretty interesting tbh

[@rc9719]

trying to justify why he failed as an owner

[@dontbotherreplyingtomycomm554]

Explain how he failed as an owner?

[@dontbotherreplyingtomycomm554]

Or explain how he’s trying to justify why he failed as an owner?

[@dontbotherreplyingtomycomm554]

You don’t know do you? You’ve just added a piss-head comment without even knowing what you’re talking about do you?

[@rc9719]

@@dontbotherreplyingtomycomm554 might have worded it wrong but , he was in contact with these agents during his time in the biz , he lost a lot of money and is trying to partially blame it on agents because of they charge “exorbitant ” wages and prices for players . Rather than owners being smart about how they spend money

[@rc9719]

@@dontbotherreplyingtomycomm554 is this a Simon burner acc 🤣 . Simple financial manage if you can’t afford it don’t buy it , there are clubs that managed their affairs like Liverpool . They had a good wage structure and bought wisely meanwhile Man Utd gave 100 k contracts to fellani , Jones and lingard as well as giving a 22 year old 250/200 k .

[@shofimiah6122]

The fall of Simon Jordan, how brilliant 👌

[@shofimiah6122]

@It doesn’t matter What your name is he worked hard to build a company to only spunk it all on his boyhood club with no experience. I’m sure he’s ok...

[@cjj9127]

They’ve been killing football since the 2000s we all know it it’s just a glorified wwe now not competitive bunch of millionaire friends having a a kick about sad

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Aw no, the clubs can't get together like a cartel and cap what individuals can earn. The poor victims. The job of the PFA (the players' union) is to represent the interests of the players. Salary caps should be illegal. Businesses have no right to get together and conspire to create legislation that limits what their employees can earn. If they care about the gross amounts of money in football, they're free to create price caps and income caps. They just hate losing the power they have.