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[@thetankmuseum]

Hello, Tank Nuts! Enjoy watching Historian David Fletcher discussing the ACAVP. Let us know your thoughts below.

[@markfryer9880]

They screwed it up by putting the engine/transmission in the rear. The turret was undersized. Mark from Melbourne Australia

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

Taking to account all those composite materials used for body protection helmets even uniforms and boots in my eyes ACAVP is a good and logical concept I mean those materials could be used to upgrade already existing vehicles or built super light new ones or even make thicker armour available with less weight

[@dmcarpenter2470]

David's videos are always a rare treat.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

Please let David make more whoopee!

[@brianj.841]

Might have been useful to air-mobile. Making it a recce vehicle only was a bad idea, I think; especially since they already had Warrior-APCs. Make Warrior-APCs using this armor? Was that what they were hoping for?

[@Sir_Soar]

"Now they've finished with it, and we've got it you get a chance to see it.... whoopee" Never heard anyone sound more excited haha

[@catlee8064]

Beat me to it!

[@alaric_]

Had to acually laugh, rare thing these in internet. Never change, Mr. Fletcher! :D

[@BrownEyePinch]

It's rubbish

[@lairdcummings9092]

Like Droopy Dog's deadpan: "I'm so happy. Hip. Hip."

[@andyjwagner]

Cut to Patreon ad--and end of video!

[@TheTfrules]

"The thing to look at, if you can stand it for any length of time..." David is a priceless font of quotes

[@skasteve6528]

David should have been a used car salesman. Customer: 'Can you tell me about this Reliant Scimitar?' David: ' Well this thing, if you can bear to look at it at all, is said to be made of plastic....'

[@bobuk5722]

Brilliant!

[@talksinsentences]

Let David know that I have never heard a better placed "whoopee". A master of comic timing.

[@beverlychmelik5504]

The fact that it can stop 30MM is impressive. So many fighting vehicles can barely stop a 50 BMG, let alone their own gun.

[@TheDing1701]

Tech from 1993. Imagine what they could do now!

[@MrFredscrap]

Koreans are using this kind of tech now on their K21 IFV, can stop 30mm autocannon APDS round. Although im sure they did further develop the idea somewhat since.

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

@@TheDing1701 All about money and timing conflict purpose, no point spending trillions on a fleet for it to never see action.

[@Pystro]

@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 I'm actually of the opposite opinion. Vehicles get replaced with new developments every few decades anyways, so you wouldn't save money by developing something with conventional armor instead. And if you know you're gonna have a fleet of vehicles standing around and not seeing conflict for decades, you'd want their chassis to be plastic-based rather than something that rusts.

[@herpderp9774]

That is really rather impressive in its characteristics, especially the armour being capable of resisting 30mm rounds, I honestly expected it to just be proof against small arms and 50cal. A modern make of a smaller reconnaissance vehicle constructed like this could really be rather zippy around the field as well as reasonably cheap to manufacture and run with its less weight (wear on drive train) and only the need for a smaller engine.

[@Wernerrrrr]

I heard 13mm, but I'm not sure.

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

@@Wernerrrrr I heard "ALUMILIUM", so I am even less sure

[@allangibson2408]

E-Glass is bottom end fibreglass. The only thing cheaper is the chopped strand mat used in cheap speed boats. Aircraft use the stronger S-Glass or step up to Kevlar for impact resistance or graphite for stiffness (or mix all three together to get the required mix of properties). Four layers of kevlar cloth in an epoxy matrix 0.5mm thick will stop a 7.62 rifle bullet 99% of the time (once) (bullet proof vests use 20 layers to be sure).

[@MrFredscrap]

I can confirm David said 30mm rounds, he said it can stand 30mm rounds from the RARDEN Cannon (which is the 30mm autocannon on the Warrior IFV) This is the same armor performance as the "plastic" Korean K1 Infantry Fighting vehicle (currently in service).

[@fredygump5578]

I completely expected him to say, "This is the tank they are making me talk about this week."

[@SF7PAKISTAN]

I nearly choked on my coke when I heard that the armour was good against 30mm rounds, that's bloody impressive. And with the advancement in material engineering since 93 one wonders what a modern solution could withstand. I'm perplexed as to why wasn't this researched further considering the benefits

[@MrFredscrap]

It is further researched... Outside of Europe. Koreans use this tech on their K21 Infantry Fighting Vehicle (in service). Although they did blend aluminium and ceramics in it to provide better protection from fragmentation (good enough to stand 152mm arty shell fragments from 10m away)

[@alamore5084]

Impressive! Lot's of benefits with this design and materials.

[@rogerbradbury9713]

I worked at a research site, so I can tell you that the letters DERA actually stand for a piece of advice to their Government employed workforce: Don't Ever Rush About. 😃

[@Electronzap]

Never in history has a country with plastic tanks been conquered.

[@scockery]

Things gotta be drastic to take on the plastic.

[@bryangrote8781]

Not true! Nations with plastic tanks got conquered all the time in my backyard as a kid. Many times the Germans failed yet again in the Backyard Battle of the Bulge!

[@Electronzap]

@@bryangrote8781 I may have to do more research on this topic :)

[@jakedee4117]

@@bryangrote8781 Indeed, and many brave little plastic men never returned to their toybox and suffered grievous wounds from firecrackers.

[@AverageJoe___]

@JZ's Best Friend then your childhood must’ve sucked

[@WildBillCox13]

Whoopee . . . thank you, Mister Fletcher. Legendary British understatement.

[@bigblue6917]

So the title said 'Plastic Tank.' Hello, I thought. We having a look at the latest offering at the museum shop. Then up pops David in front of what looks like an armoured troop carrier. So my first thoughts are either David's not as tall as we thought or Tamiya got the scaling very wrong. Turns out David is as tall as we think and Tamiya were not involved.

[@Tinderchaff]

How do you know, he didn't go into the whole list ;)

[@IamMikeedude]

the new 1:1 scale model

[@pteppig]

Looks like it would make a great scout ! The problem is, you cant really look out of it that great. And its a bit difficult to hide when your 10 ft tall. Sounds like a design flaw to me. Lets put a turret on top, with lots of optics. Its an armoured troop carrier...

[@bigblue6917]

t's true

[@bigblue6917]

@@IamMikeedude 1:1 scale will be fine, thought technically that's a replica rather then a model. But is that the tank or David? Only I've ordered both.

[@quadg5296]

That is huge for a recon vehicle. It makes the fox turret look tiny. Invisible to IR sights but twice as visible to the mark one eyeball.

[@marc0523]

I thought that too, I assume it's because it is a test bed, and they wanted the space inside to change things about easily. A finished version would probably be much smaller.

[@cringecasserole]

It's forever been my platform that Mr. Fletcher is always correct. It is no longer my platform, as I'm not waiting for a train.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

If you train yourself..you can use platform...

[@lairdcummings9092]

FRP. Fibre-Reenforced Plastic. The fibre can be glass, aramid fibres, kevlar, carbon filament, or even more exotic materials. I used to maintain acoustic windows and antenna ice caps for submarines made of such materials, and they can be amazingly tough and durable.

[@Rubashow]

David doesn't like vehicles being called a platform. I think he is more of a family man.

[@sthenzel]

The nice thing about composite over steel is, you can put so many weird and wonderful stuff in it - glass, carbon, Kevlar and other fibers, some we don´t even know about yet, metal mesh for keeping electromagnetic interference in and out, plus it´s a better thermal insulator, it aborbs radiowaves, it is lighter and can be manufactured relatively easily. It´s downside compared to metals (as others pointed it out already) are the structural properties. If metal stressed beyond the elastic limits, it gets deformed, but its´still nearly as strong as before. The hull (parts) may be out of whack, but if it still is servicable, all is good. Composites, even with their better strength-to-weight-ratio, are compromised, they cannot provide structural stiffness anymore.

[@zopEnglandzip]

Most mbts have composite armour... It looks to me like the most sensible route is the placing of your polymer/ceramic/fibre armour over an easily repairable, modifiable, durable steel carcass which is essentially what has been happening with various packages on everything from hmmwv to challengers. Repairs and inspection/ndt is basically witchcraft on fibre reinforced polymers.

[@sthenzel]

@@zopEnglandzip I had that thought also but left it alone, as this path was diverted from in the 30s because it didn´t prove as good as a welded or cast one-piece hull: Even slabs of super-composites are nothing more then armour plate bolted to framework. Still it may be viable if the vehicle only has to be 30mm-proof. Those slabs, as they are lighter, could be easily shipped in bulk to the maintenance crews.

[@zopEnglandzip]

@@sthenzel it'd be interesting to see the arrangement of ceramic in the chobham or Dorchester armour, I suspect as long as one steel structure is contiguous the other layers can be jointed and still do their job. Obviously the Dorchester armour on a Challenger 2 took 70+ rpg hits, seems like the most thorough testing of this method we're going to be aware of until it is declassified. Interesting topic, more interesting because it's obviously still evolving and there's no widely accepted standard practice yet.

[@iberiksoderblom]

Composites are still an interesting area in terms of vehicles. And with a lot of future... This prototype is still impressive !

[@ruzziasht349]

Fibre Glass = GRP = glass reinforced plastic. The resins used are very similar to the Isopon craft kits we used to get as Christmas presents in 70s and 80s where you could cast objects such as sea shells in a clear liquid plastic that went hard. Great for making paper weights.

[@okrajoe]

This is now officially the best Tank Chat episode ever!

[@lucar.5045]

Essentially a 1:1 scale plastic model kit. Just at £ 5.999.999!

[@reallylionbastard]

Can't wait for airfix to get into full scale tank designs🤣

[@j.robertsergertson4513]

I love that old dude ! " They finished with it ,we got it now you get to see it ! Whoopee The dead pan delivery ,cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnelrick8945]

Heh, I see Mr. Fletcher's boundless joy and infectious enthusiasm is on full display, here.

[@terencepriestman317]

I had the pleasure of being on the build team at vickers Leeds back in 1999 when we had it there for final build. It pretty much came to us straight out of the autoclave at Vospers. The P stood for prototype btw. She was a pig to build, grinding fibreglass is not good for your health and sent me to hospital once with fibreglass in my eye. All the running gear and engine were from leftover spillages at RAF BICESTER where we went to rob what we could. The FOX turret was literally all we could get and was just for show. It didn't even have a barrel. We got it running with what we could, that engine came in and out more times than a sailor in a cat house. I could still do it now I reckon. Sky came to film it in the millenium and it got an airing on xmas day, it was then taken from us by DERA and even ended up on BIG BREAKFAST one morning. I've still got the VICKERS mag article about it somewhere in my collection. Good times but again, a pig to work on.

[@mikes.4136]

I’ve always had an interest in the ACAVP. I think it was quite an innovative design. It’s good to see it in such fine shape.

[@astonrichardson5288]

I do love our David! ❤️ “A big slab of composite armour built on a track chassis and a turret”

[@gunner678]

Yes the Fox turrets were redundant once the vehicle went out of service. They were of course use later for the CVRT SABRE.

[@mikeynth7919]

It is sort of like HMS Vanguard having Glorious and Courageous' old guns "Well, we got these turrets lying around and we thought, why not build another battleship and stick them on?" to "This is a demonstrator, we really don't need a modern turret, what do you got in the warehouse?"

[@gunner678]

@@mikeynth7919 yes good comparison!

[@Br1cht]

I so enjoy David’s very dry, very British humor.

[@urosmarkovic6535]

Ok I come with Molotov and that thing literally melts like an snowman mid summer 🤣😂

[@christopherreed4723]

"Behold...ACAVP!" "ACAVP!" "ACAVP!!" "It's only a model." "Shshsh!"

[@matthayward7889]

Love this chat! One of my favourite armoured vehicles and I took hundreds of close up pics when I was at the tank museum. Under the track guards there are a lot of holes that look suspiciously like bullet holes: ballistic testing, maybe?

[@edward9674]

Thank you for not doing mid video ads anymore!

[@rickansell661]

Just to clarify about DERA, Chertsey and QinetiQ, because David got it a bit wrong. DERA was all of the non-nuclear research and development parts of MOD merged into one body. So rather more than 'half of Chertsey' ended up in it, all of what remained was absorbed. For example the organisation I was working for at the time, the Defence Operational Analysis Centre, was also merged into it. Eventually most of DERA was privatised. Around 2/3 was hived off as QinetiQ and the remainder, doing the things that had to remain within Government, became Dstl (the Defence Evaluation and Research Laboratory), still in the Civil Service and part of MOD. Dstl has over the years absorbed some other bodies, the most recent and important being the research arm of the Home Office.

[@wot1fan885]

Woopie is right . These tanks chats are my favorite videos on youtube . So thanks .

[@timbo66]

And you get a chance to see it. Whoopee! My favourite Fletcherism so far. I get the impression he did this under considerable duress. Thank you Mr Fletcher!

[@Peorhum]

So nice of the tank museum gives David the PLATFORM to talk about armoured vehicles.

[@joshuabessire9169]

They could put a podium on a mechanical mule and use it as a stage.

[@chrisg6091]

"It still gets taken out, from time to time, to frighten people to death" 🤣

[@Cancun771]

6:32 This looks as though you could seriously hurt the driver by swivveling the turret.

[@HatlessMuffin]

Military designer's: Yeah, well shut up

[@Cancun771]

@N Fels Sad to see that instead, German megacorps and banks carved up the country, like FRAPORT.

[@pteppig]

@@Cancun771 The Greece governement lives on mounting up debt while having low or not enforced taxes but high corruption. But not as corrupt as ukrainian politicians or sons of US politicians that "work" in their state industry. It has been the same in the last 300 years, with calls for help to austria and germany to bail them out.

[@Cancun771]

@@pteppig It was about time some low-life Putin troll showed up. You guys crack me up, Ivan.

[@johanmetreus1268]

@@pteppig Not sure the German banks are less corrupt, first helping cover up the state of finances to double the loans to Greece, then passing the whole mess to the central banking of EU while counting the profits... Though most of those loans didn't go to corrupt Greeks, but to pay orders from the German industry.

[@MililaniJag]

After 30 years looks like the advanced plastic/glass fibre composite E-Glass has held up well. Cheers!

[@kippamip]

I remember being in bovi early 2001 and seeing this, as well as the CVR(T) trialing rubber track's around the test track. I was busy enjoying putting the DTT through its paces.

[@kippamip]

@Aurens Driver Training Tank. DTT.

[@bobuk5722]

Hilarious commentary. David, that was brilliantly done. A long, long time ago I almost got job at DERA. BT offered more money ....

[@krissteel4074]

I mess around with a lot of composites like micarta and G10 which are insanely tough for their weight, but not to the extent I think it overcomes a good high alloy steel for some components like armour and various chassis bits. The other factor with them on such a (in this case) very large scale is that once you've busted something its a proverbial nightmare to repair and in most cases you're better off binning it. There is some aspects though which do make it appealing in the sense you can mould and shape it with some very basic technology and still come away with something very practical along with the weight savings, maybe just one of those little projects that tried a little too early in the technological timeline

[@zoiders]

G10 is circuit board material and Micarta is just resin bonded fibre. Neither of them is a "composite" in armour terms or a structural material. By "composite" they are referring to solid and supremely strong ballistic fibre reinforced plastic like you find in helmets. Ceramic plates. Kevlar and rubber spall liners beneath that. Spaced box section steel armour filled with sand of all things. It offers far better protection than plain old steel. What you see here is proof of concept. Not a failure. The Challenger II and Leopard incorporate many composite armour components - this is merely an attempt at allowing that to trickle down to AFVs.

[@MrFredscrap]

About 10 years too early maybe? Given the Korean K21 IFV currently in service is using this kinda full composite design and they started that project around year 2000.

[@zopEnglandzip]

@@MrFredscrap it's an aluminum hull with ceramic composite panels, pretty common way of doing things.

[@leigh6879]

love it !whoopee! he's such a big fan, erm... thank you i haven't laughed as much in a long time, wow what a legend!

[@amarmusovic7748]

I fell asleep something like 4 times during this 9-minute video... 🤭🤭

[@russwoodward8251]

Thank you David Fletcher. A very fascinating vehicle.

[@alancox5777]

I recon they used the fox turret for two reasons. 1. As u mentioned. That’s what’s they had but 2. The warrior turret being steel and a lot heavier was probably not used due to its higher weight

[@kenbrown2808]

at first glance at the headline, I was expecting a self propelled decoy tank. but with it being resistant to the most common means of looking for tanks, it doesn't even match the need for that.

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

Like the Tiger 2 in a the German Armour Museum (I will not try to write the name in German)...

[@NoelCraigNI]

Me and a friend made a plate 100x100x25mm in dimension made of a typical off the shelf polyurathane and some home brew graphene. The plate stopped 3 rifle rounds 1x 5.56x45, 1x 5.45x39 and 1x 7.62x51, all of which were discharged at pretty much point blank range. That was 2 numpties from Belfast working in our kitchens for fun on a non existent budget. I suppose the idea of futuristic plastic tank's isn't a complete write-off. There's no telling what could be accomplished in the future.

[@jep77ray]

Love this man's chats, he could tell us about a tea cup, and it would be interesting:)

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

"Whoopeee!"

[@EXO9X8]

I daresay the call for more Patreons and subscribers would be far more effective if it was our dear Fletcher reciting it in a dry fashion.

[@Brave_Sir_Robin]

No doubt!

[@the_midnight_mechanic_stua1503]

Needs a whoppeeee for each patreaon

[@kevinlytle6215]

Composite armor makes a lot of sense. Add exotic layers like ceramic and and every absorbing space for heat etc and the ability to mold in very curvy shapes. Wonder what is the issue that stops other more deployable designs from coming out.

[@tedferkin]

As much as I love our Dear David Fletcher. I have to correct him on pronunciation. QinectiQ is pronounced kin- eh-tick. And DERA (The Defence Evaluation and Research Agency, which actually had bases all over the UK but mainly in the south. There was a huge base at Malvern in Worcestershire which did Comms and electronics, also the people at Porton Down) is pronounced deh-ra (like terra) not dearer. I worked for DERA, we'd always get told off for the dearer use as they thought it made us sound like "more expensive"..... QinectiQ was the privatised elements of DERA, which the chief executive and his wife ended up with a majority share, not dodgy in the slightest at all, no not going down that litigious route at all

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

Whoopie....does not apply then..?

[@WyldestZakk1980]

it almost seems it´s in 1/-2 scale :D It´s freaking huge!!

[@frankbarnwell____]

It exists, we saw it, you've shown it to us all.

[@Pitchlock8251]

Holy crap. I heard of this thing. But I had no idea how massive it actually was.

[@charliepirhonen9734]

haha, "If you can stand to look at it for any length of time."

[@jammiedodger7040]

We really need a company like Vickers

[@the-primered-thumb]

As an ex tankie, what a stupid place to put the fire extinguishers great video by the way 😁👌

[@StarlightEater]

I love this guy. Friggin legend.

[@Deamon93IT]

6 million quid for this box on tracks is not too shabby indeed. A shame nothing came out of it, looks like a potentially very good IFV (if you arrange the internals a bit better, to allow grunts on the back).

[@timothyfricker7413]

Nice to see Longcross test track I haven't been on it since I was a toddler

[@christopherlng753]

Plastic tank?! Feels like someone wanted a life sized tank model :p

[@EastBayFlipper]

Imagine this vehicle with an EV drive and anti-tank javelin missiles as a tank destroyer. Invisible to IR, light and rapidly deployable b/c of the reduced weight and "tank-riders" in the former engine compartment. A few of these in the woods would make an armored advance very dicey.

[@Kenny212_2]

hahaha, never change david, never change :P you are an absolute genious when describing these kind of...."things" :P

[@christophersilsby7829]

If you don't want to use the word "Platform". In the carpentry you can have a Platform for what you start with. When your building anything, the base is the Platform

[@MrFredscrap]

Korean K21 Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) is in service and is made from similar type of material Yes the "plastic" (really a fibreglass composite) armor is good against 30mm APDS rounds (ie Russian IFV main autocannons), and fragments from 152mm arty rounds

[@marc0523]

This tank actually sounds brilliant. In Ukraine has shown anything, it's that NLAW type weapons are a real threat to armoured vehicles. Any ability to make your vehicle more stealthy (thermal, noise etc) is incredibly useful. Your vehicles needs to either be almost invisible, or strong enough to take a real pounding.

[@paulmanson253]

Well,with enormous respect to Mr. Fletcher,I recall a Vietnam veteran remarking with deep bitterness that of the M113 APC,"A Chinese .51 would happily go through end to end" . I suppose those were copies of the Russian heavy machine gun. This was intended for light reconnaissance. Is there some valid reason the hull would be a bad idea ? Turrets are upgradable. The shape reminds me of the M113. A slight rework would have yielded what I would think a significant improvement over an aluminum hull that only serves to be a bullet magnet that traps the explosion forces of a mine,killing the occupants unless they ride on top. Am I missing something here ? Anyone knowledgeable care to say something ?

[@MrFredscrap]

Probably not much domestic interest in it at the time (South) Koreans did take the idea to it's fruition with their K21 IFV. in service since 2010 ish. Funnily enough the korean version of this, the thinnest side armor is still rated for 14.5mm AP rounds from those russian machien guns And top armor is good enough for close proximity fragments from a 152mm arty shell.

[@zoiders]

If you can pop a Kevlar lid on your head that will keep out shell splinters and glancing shots from rifle rounds then an AFV of the same material is 100% a common sense development.

[@WilliamNeacy]

I was so in awe of the weapons grade shade being directed at this vehicle, I can't remember what the hell it is.

[@hammer1349]

Given the stealth capabilities of the plastic composites used, if it could be scaled down it would certainly make for a very effective scout vehicle, admittedly I refrain from using armoured reconnaissance vehicle but I think something like that could make quite the difference on the battlefield rather than having to rely on outdated CVR(T) platforms and the warrior for scouting duties

[@sappersteve1443]

I believe that the 'P' stood for Prototype, and its nickname was the "Tupperware" tank?

[@alexalbiston5675]

Warrior roadwheels and tracks? But with the sprockets at the back? Interesting!

[@markfryer9880]

Being composite saves weight! Well as anyone who has handled HDMDF High Density MDF, which is basically solid plastic and heavy. It is often used for toilet doors and partitions or shower cubicles in a commercial or educational environment. It's no fun to work with, as you have to pilot drill holes for any fasteners and they can strip easily. Hence my scepticism about It's use in an armoured vehicle. Mark from Melbourne Australia

[@obsidianjane4413]

This isn't anything like MDF. Its literally several inches thick fiberglass. I'm pretty sure drilling and screwing fasteners into your tank would be frowned upon by superiors. Weight is relative. Its all about the mass to strength ratio vs. other materials like steel or aluminum. Even HDMDF can be lighter than the same modulus (sheer, tensile, compression, etc.) of steel plate even if you need something silly like cubic feet of it.

[@alamore5084]

Installing a toilet cubical is an innovative idea on this IFV.

[@Mjk10957]

Is there any reason why the tank musuem dosnt have a warrior , spent many a hour cutting around iraq in the back of one. Great vechicle untill the aircon breaks then its like sitting in a flipping oven good times lol

[@michaellind3653]

if the warrior is in current use that would be why, probably not enough to spare.

[@66kbm]

Its purpose would be a light recce vehicle. I would love to see that thing next to a CVRT just for size comparison.

[@kentuckycrittercamera9407]

David Fletcher, the most British man ever

[@brucelamberton8819]

Stopping a 30mm round is no mean feat.

[@ZGryphon]

Maybe I've just watched too many _World of Tanks_ videos, but to my eye, the fact that they made the lower glacis big and vertical enough to put advertisements on it is the first clue that they weren't really serious about the armor on this vehicle. :)

[@chrisagnew2923]

You had me at whoopie.

[@laurinjoelschafhausen]

Fletcher vs platform. I feel greatly entertained.

[@tendiesoffmyplate9085]

ACAV stands for armored cavalry as well

[@leoarc1061]

Mr. Fletcher, as usual, is quite correct. Composite amour is a lot better than even the strongest alumilium armour.

[@ihcfn]

The tasche, the myth, the legend that is David Fletcher!

[@mitchfromtheinternet297]

I hope I’m as dry and witty when I’m 80, what a great character David is.

[@major0noob]

i think the "weapons system platform" thing is just junior officers trying-to-get-promoted-lingo. since it covers fighter planes, bombers, vehicles, boats, ships, towed gun chassis, every small arms, actual platforms, etc, etc...

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

Taking to account all those composite materials used for body protection helmets even uniforms and boots, that vehicle doesn't look strange at all.. at least in my eyes I mean such matters might be the solution for upgrading already existing vehicles or built super light new ones or making thicker armour with less weight

[@obsidianjane4413]

It doesn't look strange today but for the early 90's it was very "Buck Rodgers" .

[@ButchE30M3S14]

So basically a Kevlar vest on tracks :-)

[@RonJohn63]

Since ATGM are soooo ubiquitous and lethal, maybe this stealth-lite is the most practical idea.

[@filmaelculdetomare]

Very interesting machine, I didn't know that it existed!

[@AtheistOrphan]

@JZ's Best Friend - Airfix kit surely?

[@urosmarkovic6535]

If you sheet ceramics between the carbon fiber it can do wonders with small weight

[@stephenmcdonnell5702]

David is A legend 👍👍

[@Norrikan]

I went through nearly this entire video thinking it was an IFV; imagine my surprise when it turned out to be a gargantuan recon vehicle.

[@1984Phalanx]

I agree with your opinion of the word platform. It always sounds odd to me when I hear "weapons platform"

[@mopar_dude9227]

It sounds perfectly normal, and has been used in the automotive industry for years. It just means that the vehicle is based on the same basic running gear and chassis. It makes sense to refer to military equipment, especially armored equipment, as sharing the same platform. Many tanks, APVs, and speciality equipment (bridge layers, retrieval vehicles) share the same chassis and running gear. It is just easier to say they are based on the same platform.

[@andypocalypse]

I used to work for Perkins engines in Stafford :)

[@andypocalypse]

we made engines bigger than my car xD

[@DaveyChainZ69]

I would have thought that ACAVP stood for Armored Cavalry Prototype 🤔

[@Eulemunin]

Lovely work as always.

[@tomsoki5738]

If they made a CVR(T) Scorpion like this it would be amazing. Get out all the little flaws in the scorpion, put the Scorpion 90 gun on it, stick a small hard kill active protection system on it and you have a world class light tank.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

There is no point to the 90mm An autocannon with missiles is better. And if you want direct fire he, a 120mm breech loading mortar is better.

[@tomsoki5738]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 infantry support is the role of the 90mm along with light-medium anti armour. Then a javelin bolted on the top could deal with MBT’s. You don’t want to waste javelins on groups of soldiers/ bunkers or medium armoured vehicles which an autocannon can’t take out easily

[@alancox5777]

I’m at the start of the video here and what I see is warrior running gear with a fox turret ( gnrs night sight removed). Yeah