Tanner Leatherstein Rejected by Hermes - How Trustworthy is He? - Live Stream Highlight

[@xeracalm2023]

There is a difference between being a Hermes' leather expert and a leather expert. Clemence is Hermes branding of a leather that is basically a juvenile bullskin. Just like barenia is a special name for a type of leather. It doesn't mean that he doesn't know leather. I have friends in the industry and they are not going to be Hermes experts on Hermes special branding of their leather types. Its not like saying chevre, lambskin, etc. If you want to buy some similar leather you can search for taurillion, shrunken calf (if you want closer to togo).

[@seabreeze4559]

yeah a legal thing

[@SuperDacob]

Very fair point you make Someone Out There but the thing is he did not make a generic video about any old no brand bag and any leather. He decided to make a video about an Hermes bag. We know how important it is to Hermes and their clients to properly differentiate their leathers, types of leathers, colors and so on. So in other words, if he wants to make a video about Hermes leather bags, the least he could have done, as a leather expert, would have been to research the bare minimum about Hermes Evelyne bags and their leathers. Cuz otherwise he comes across as somebody who took the word of none other than the realreal 🥴 for the leather and authenticity of an Hermes bag he bought from them. You can see how that could come across to the viewers who are actually very invested into Hermes lingo and standards? I understand that the majority of his viewers are probably not into luxury brands anyway but the few that are might feel like his lack of research into Hermes could potentially be seen as unprofessional, given that he is, after all, making a video about Hermes. Furthermore, why all the rush to dissect any Hermes bag? Why not be patient and wait till you score an authentic one directly from the Hermes website? Why the need to push out this Hermes bag dissection video so soon? Oh right… cuz he wanted a lot of views quickly. Allegedly. So are we sacrificing quality for a quick video production? Seems like what Chanel is doing with their leather bags since a while: make them and make them quick for quick profits despite the fact that quality and quality control suffer under those fast paced rhythms. How is what he is doing with this fast produced and not fully thought through video of his any different from some leather brands churning out subpar leather products very quickly just for quick maximized profits? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JanetChristophersen]

Thank you, clearly the name is an in-house name, and for giving further clarification,

[@c16621]

Tanner is legit. He does NOT force his own products down your throat. He does not talk about his own company. I had to dig to find his website. The things he says I have learned studying bags for 30 years. He is right in his estimations on each bag he deconstructs.

[@nomanejane5766]

He talks about his brand all the time, he even has it linked.. he also wears a shirt with their logo in multiple videos...

[@nomanejane5766]

Also if he is legit then why he say vintage coach isn't better?

[@nomanejane5766]

If he is legit then why he say vintage coach isn't better? Why didn't he understand how brands price their things, it took him to go to a LV store to understand where all the money goes. People can be wrong, even the experts

[@queenhoe9006]

@@nomanejane5766because vintage coach is not better than new coach. You can even see it from the way the leather is tanned. The technology has advanced to make it better now.

[@dillinrivera91]

I love Tanners videos because they’re informative and he’s super laid back and not “extra”. Tanner is the reason I’ve sold my YSL and Gucci bags and I don’t regret it one bit. Social media has brainwashed people into thinking that luxury is the best in quality when in fact it’s not. Idc about a name, prestige or history of a brand because in reality all you’re paying for is a name! I will never fathom people paying 4-5 figures for a bag…it really is mental…

[@mainelux5482]

So true 😊😊😊😊

[@noah-j00]

can i ask what handbags you use now? i’m looking to see my Prada and Celine but i need bags ..idk where to go from here

[@ampg1798]

I think making an occasional mistake does not take away your expertise. He makes excellent, non-biased content, that is actually very insightful. Never felt pushed to buy anything from him. I like that he shows how the bags are made, and the amount of work that goes into each, then encourages you to decide what you want to do, depending on how much you value status that comes with a name brand. I also like that he reviews affordable items, and will tell you hey this is made really well, and this other thing is garbage. That is incredibly awesome. You make a few valid points but your dismissive attitude, petty comments, and eye rolling just come across as extremely unlikeable. Saying things like "i dont want to throw shade, he seems like a good family man, but maybe too perfect?" ...that IS shade, for no reason. Also, would you tell an art critic that because they can't paint, they can't recognize excellent artworks or techniques? That is a terrible argument.

[@c16621]

Good comment. You are intelligent.

[@prestonval4439]

Tanner with his 31 million+ views is disrupting the narrative of the Commissioned Luxury Influencer. Consumer's ultimately vote with their wallets, Luxury retailers selling to the masses is finally hitting a wall.

[@kedejack3718]

I think people put too much faith in these luxury brands. Hermes, Chanel, etc etc are all selling an experience and not a quality product. I'll believe Tanner Leatherstein over ANY luxury brand ANY day.

[@ask230]

Respectfully, put down the Koolaid. Hermes and other luxury leather brands do not have a monopoly on the best craftspeople and knowhow. I have seen exceptional leather workers in small unknown shops, and I have also seen utter crap coming out of the supposed top branded luxury leather stores in Paris, Milan and New York. The idea that there is special know-how that can't be replicated or is difficult to replicate by small workshops is untrue. High quality leather work is a very learnable trade, and the know-how is more a commodity than a trade secret. However, replicating these luxury brands and what they represent is very difficult. That's where lies the competitive advantage. And that advantage and intangible value -- and the status and trust it confers -- can usually be maintained unless a rarely occurring brand disruption takes place.

[@riomanaog8208]

He’s deconstructing branded bags to see if the price we are willing to pay is really worth it. He always says that as long as we know what we are buying and happy paying with its asking price, then we are good. He’s not even promoting anything.

[@SuperDacob]

He literally promotes and sells his own leather goods… so… yeah… ya might have missed the memo…

[@JClover2]

​@@SuperDacob He seldomly brings that up in the videos. I had not known for a long time that he makes his own things. Also, this is my first time on your channel, and your condescending responses to others on here are off-putting. I'm sure my views and subscription won't be missed.

[@Great_PatBingsoo]

@@SuperDacob stop getting your panties in a wad

[@staciarenee2982]

See, i love, love classics with a quirk, but when she went through tanners video, she took what he said completely differently than i took it. Tanner says constantly that these brands have prestigious reputations to uphold, marketing, etc, and the logo is what you're paying for. He does give these brands props by stating that most use full grain beautiful leather. They just emboss the leather, which takes away from the natural feel and beauty. He also says he does these videos to promote other brands (such as polene, he raved about their leather) by saying if you just want a luxury material bag, go with xx brand if the logos arn't important to you. He already did an Hermès wallet, and he said/showed how amazing the leather was and how they were hardly corrected. He raved about bottega veneta as well (purple bag) but was not happy with a wallet. When it comes to us luxury lovers, i can see how some may get very offended or upset by what he's doing or saying and question what he's saying. You can believe what he's saying or not, but he definitely seems like someone (has even mentioned he's not really personally into luxury) he's not super knowledgeable about the brands themselves. He's just breaking these bags apart to see what their process is with the leather and if the leather is full grain/high quality. I've seen so many go after him, but at the end of the day, it's his opinion & i personally like how he is dissecting these bags to show us if they are even leather or not (ie bottega veneta wallet).

[@ChrisCanomi]

Classic w a quirk took it sooo personal I felt bad😢 I love em both

[@niaknadawn]

actually yes he does mention in almost every video that big brands put alot of money in marketing, stores rents, sale systems, heritage etc. and that is what we pay for. from what i see he respects the market system but just reminds people like me, since i once thought big brands use the best materials, now i know brands don’t have to use the best’ (will be corrected anyway) i am a bag lover myself , i bought a crossbody bag from them as a sample, truely good leather quality but not that user-friendly, since design is totally a different aspect. i appreciate his systematic shared knowledge on leather.

[@MrsVanB]

I agree wholeheartedly with you! 👏 I tried to explain this, but I am not an English native speaker. 😅 I also shared that I think he found his niche and that is why his older videos have far less views than his more recent videos. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@alistairt7544]

Exactly! I grew up knowing a lot about luxury since my parents love luxury goods. I've always correlated luxury products with high quality craftsmanship and materials, plus, it's pedigree and heritage and history of innovation and leader in style and fashion. But his content def has opened my eyes on the fact that you're also paying for so many things and it doesn't always equate to high quality and craftsmanship. I still like luxury goods, but I feel like I'm more logical, practical, and smarter in what I decided to spend my money on.

[@nomanejane5766]

No, he does not. He doesn't even add the marketing, brick & mortar stores, employees etc into the expensive of the product

[@kamant8200]

@@nomanejane5766 because they are indirect expenses meaning that they do not influence the production costs.

[@gradstudent91]

Oh please. Everyone is mad when someone exposes the quality versus the cost. Any well made bag can be repaired, that's not just a Hermes thing. A better question would be to ask why are these brands justifying spending thousands on marketing? It's capitalism. Plain and simple. If it were about practicality, aesthetics, or quality then Hermes couldn't stand up because other brands could do the same. You question his intentions but you're doing what you accuse him of. Be honest you don't wish him well.

[@SuperDacob]

Honestly, if I have to be honest, I think you are not really clearly there… and you misunderstood my entire video. Not everybody is out to get you or others miss thing. So take a seat and breathe cuz you all riled up like a chicken in a grill rodeo.

[@gradstudent91]

@@SuperDacob sit down. I understood what you were saying. He's doing exactly what needs to be done. I like your videos but you went after one of my faves and I don't like that 😆

[@SuperDacob]

We need to practice critical thinking. I am not coming for him the way you imply. The world is not always black and white. See it this way: he can dissect and criticize and analyze other brands and their quality of leather. So why can’t I analyze and criticize his work too? Why is that off limits but him criticizing and analyzing other brands’ work is ok? And don’t forget that Tanner is a brand too. He is a brand on social media. We have the right to question his quality too. Its fair game. Point of the matter is this: in his tease video on the Hermes Evelyne bag he comes across as ill prepared on the Hermes subject. Not knowing what leather Evelyne bags are made in and seemingly trusting the realreal enough to purchase a bag there and thinking it will surely be authentic. You can surely see how it can come across as sus to say the least. At least to Hermes leather fans and connoisseurs… hopefully this clears up the misunderstanding and you are less upset. Xoxo

[@McRambleOn]

If U watched @superdacob you would realize he talks abt capitalism and marketing ALOT and is a consumer advocate

[@lauraangyal8191]

Word! Lets not be haters. Tanner knows his sh*t.

[@divorceguru]

If you follow him you would know he himself admits he can’t make the Hermes bags (or anything as he’s more into the leather tanning side of things). He did an interview with Peter Nitz who has a leather atelier where they make gorgeous looking bags. Peter talks about Hermes bags because he was trained by a Hermes artisan and has another Hermes artisan now working for him. He talks about authenticating Hermes bags. This dude never claimed to make bags and openly says he doesn’t know much about making bags. Whether or not he knows leather I don’t know but that’s supposedly his thing so he’s analysing the quality of the leather, which is nice to know. I think all of us who are into luxury know that we’re not paying only for material and craftsmanship.

[@SuperDacob]

If you followed me you would know I follow him. So there, first of your accusations debunked. I watched the full podcast with Nitz because unlike Tanner, when I go into making a video about the quality of somebody’s content, I actually DO prepare myself. Finally, how is my video analyzing his content any different from him analyzing the leather of others? So he is allowed to do it and question something but heaven forbid anybody were to question him. I hope you see how hypocritical people’s stances are on this matter.

[@divorceguru]

@@SuperDacob I'm sorry I wasn't accusing - my comment probably came off wrong. I was just pointing out that the comment you were reading (wasn't even your commentary) was correct that he doesn't know how hermes bags are made because he himself admitted as much and I think the person who wrote that comment hadn't seen that particular video (it was long but interesting). It's confusing when you're reading a comment someone else wrote about someone else and I'm commenting on the comment that you're commenting on... LOL I think I need more coffee! I love your content anyway I wasn't throwing shade!

[@ChrisCanomi]

@@SuperDacob gurrrl love u, but u reached this time, pal was not accusing u 😭😭😭😭

[@sparten17708]

I'm fairly certain he doesn't work in a tannery or with tanning of leather. It looks like he works for a whole sale warehouse

[@rlkinnard]

Tanner makes bags or has bags made; he. has a website Pegai.

[@nandiaconstantinou8181]

Hello Dacob. :) Kelly is a practical bag? :D It's actually the most unpractical bag. You need to carry it by its handle thus you cannot use one of your hands and your hand hurts. If you carry it on your shoulder with the strap, it's very ugly. And you need half an hour to open it and to close it. Luxury is convenience, and Kelly is not convenient at all. People suffer with that bag. :D

[@travis_vh]

20:04 but he said in a few videos that the the price he estimated is only based on price of leather and craftsmanship and not on marketing and stores also his leather goods have a leather with a lot more natural characteristics which a lot of people enjoy

[@rachelkhaymovich2964]

I'm slightly confused at the comment that the Evelyne is made in Clemence not Togo which is not true because the Evelyne has been made in both leathers

[@vee9043]

There are definitely authentic Evelyns made from togo leather. It is difficult to tell the difference between the two leathers on a bag that small. It is usually when you get up to B30 size or larger, where you can clearly feel the weight of clemence. Togo and clemence are bull leather: togo is from a mature bull, clemence is from a younger bull. Togo leather is usually 'tight' with smaller grains but there are also togo leathers with the larger grains, softness and slouch of clemence. There are also some clemence leathers with veining if the younger bull was more bigger. Some SAs can't even tell the difference depending on the particular hide that is available that year.

[@debbiemcnamara7059]

He knows more than most. He has nothing to prove.

[@nancyprivate6774]

I have found some brands that use the highest quality leather sourced from American cattle and bison made in American tanneries and put together perfect - now I cannot bring myself to buy designer brands - I know it costs them billions to build up their brand and rent their beautiful stores, etc. - but I dont really care - all I care about is the hard earned dollars that I spend. I guess as I have gotten older I really do not care to impress anyone - I can buy anything I want so I just buy for quality.

[@ohshedee2020]

I never got the sense that id buy anything else after he dissects an item

[@rosianaeo9380]

There is Evelyn in togo. Bought it in Christie. No way in hell Christie sold fake item.

[@drewb9743]

It’s like buying Starbucks, people know it’s overprotective but they still buy it.

[@maryjanedodo]

The main issue is that there are top quality products that are fugly & poor quality products that are beautifully designed - true luxury products should be top quality + beautifully designed. Unfortunately many brands are now selling items that are worse quality than their replicas - so that eradicates their investment value & encourages the replica market - which in turn further lowers the scarcity & prestige through mass conspicuous consumption by the trashy peasants - LV & Chanel being great examples...

[@burgersuperking]

The problem with designer clothes is that many designs are simply not durable at all, and can not be durable. I bought some RTW peaces and returned them after realising that maintaining them would be a total nightmare

[@barbie47556]

A few months later!! Boom Dior got exposed for selling cheap goods and charging high prices buy low, sell high that's how business works. Yes, he made mistakes but the real truth is out. I have a few luxury bags and shoes and I don't regret buying them.

[@askirtheflin5580]

What is your point? Get to point. What are u trying to say about Tanner

[@SuperDacob]

Have patience. No patience = no understanding.

[@chemdawgsd2146]

Patience is one thing. Lack of content is another.🤡

[@BleuSaphir]

I find him so entertaining and insightful regarding of Prada all major mainstream luxury brands. Personally I don’t think Hermes is that amazing. I doubt they pay their “artisans” well.

[@diamond1567]

I agree that Tanner doesn’t account for the costs of designing goods to fit a specific lifestyle. I do like how he brings more awareness what you’re spending your money on, which is important when you’re spending thousands of dollars on designer goods. So now when I buy designer bags I make sure I truly love the design and try my best to ensure it’s made of quality materials. If I don’t love it without the logo, it’s not for me.

[@dawnlovescouture2644]

Thanks for bringing up that the shapes of the bags can’t be copy written. I’ve often mentioned how Hermés did not invent the shape of the Kelly. If you are familiar with bags from the late ‘40’s and ‘50’s, you know that this shape was popular at that time. Hermés has managed to make this shape timeless. There’s something to be said about that.

[@simonecomtesse2772]

Yes I mean it is not a surprise or new to us that luxury bags are overpriced 😂 He is just telling people who are fed up with the luxury brands that it’s all not worth it. At the end of the day everyone knows everything is overpriced but we also know this is not just about leather quality or stitching but those brands are also selling dreams 😏

[@jennifermcmillan2588]

The real real have authentication… I’m sure that mistakes happen but if it is that close that authentication experts aren’t able to see the difference then designers are doomed . It is funny that ppl assume they sell fakes 🙄

[@AnastasiaBeverhousen]

Of course we are all angry at the luxury brand’s prices darling. Dropping 15k is not a lot for me but I’m done with the game and getting bad quality items. I’m moving to replicas like all my rich lady friends.

[@adrienneknowles6486]

Then you are going to be supporting criminal gangs, terrorism & drug gangs. I know who I’d rather give my money to.

[@nasali4817]

He is right as poor quality leather is given to customer and customer build their brand .

[@renatocastiglione6676]

I’m so glad you took the time to make this video Dacob, I follow Tanner and I do enjoy his video’s, i anyhow don’t like his products, but that’s beside the point, he dissect store bought items and tries to debunk the cost and reveal the quality or the lack of…when it comes to quality I sure trust him. Cost of manufacturing on the other hand is so complex that it’s different for each brand, and each factory and also manufacturing costs have very little to do with retail prices, me working in the fashion industry and also earning my degrees in fashion related studies that’s the first thing I’ve learnt. Going back to Tanner, he has made a video mentioning the boutique locations and the cost of the experience, but he targets clients who have no appreciation of “luxury” period. Still every time he touches Hermes he mentions the simple construction but always calls out the highest quality, most amazing leather and the highest level of craftsmanship regardless of belittling the complexity of the design. I will never budge on my respect for Hermes as a brand for the simple reason: they will rather have empty shelves and no online inventory than compromising the quality of their products. They operate their own workshops, train their own employees regardless of experience, so they can provide customers with the quality they built their brand on, and what is expected from them. Hermes prices are on par with many if not most of the high fashion and heritage designer brands, yet Hermes is the only one I never had a problem with, and I have never received a compliment on an unidentifiable unbranded leather good until I purchased the Hermes Apple Watch (dumb purchase but that’s another topic) but the barenia leather watchband had people stopping me to ask where it’s from because it’s beautiful, and that in itself speaks volumes of Hermes leather. Also fun fact: while watching your video I went on the realreal and there are so many Togo evelyne bags, I gonna reach out to my salesperson at Hermès just to hear what she got to say 😂 Thanks for a video where you said everything that most of us been thinking. ❤

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you for your in depth comment Renato 🙏🏻💖 I am glad you looked into the realreal Evelyne offerings. I just do not feel confident purchasing luxury bags from them online because they seem to make so many mistakes and seem to not really know to authenticate properly. Allegedly.

[@renatocastiglione6676]

Oh Dacob I completely agree with you, the amount of fakes I’ve seen on the realreal and similar sites is shocking and concerning, especially that they’re commonly marking items as final sale. I think they’re losing the consumers trust and soon they will be left to fight for survival.

[@drewb9743]

He actually mentioned about marketing, etc

[@GiveMeTheLook]

I would honestly respect these luxury brands if they brought their collections down to two shows a year and they give us quality products worth purchasing, they could honestly keep their prices down because they’re not trying to do so many fashion shows and collections etc. and it would create more demand. Because once it sells out you have to wait till the next collection and now you’re really excited to see what they’re going to bring out next. And even creating a line and saying we only made 1000 of these bags then you can charge a lot of money and have that exclusivity. But that’s just my theory

[@TheFiown]

I bought a lovely Hermes Birkin in Orange the other day. I paid 198 euros.

[@gloriarecinos]

Ahhh Dacob I was looking for this on the live. Thank you!😊

[@SuperDacob]

🙏🏻💖🌸🌸🌸

[@greenfash6328]

Hermes said girl don't come for me.

[@switchhiter69]

Dacob, very thoughtful video!

[@TheFiown]

I worked for six years for LVMH and I know that back in 2006 we paid between 45 and 75 euros all included for a luxury bag, usually made in Italy or Turkey. I visited a factory near Shanghai that manufactured for Donna Karan and Kors and they charged 30 euros for a high end bag all included. High street bags in 2008 sold for about one dollar from the manufacturer. It's the same with clothes. Good quality jeans cost 6 euros, a high end mans suit can be as little as 12 euros, high end shirts in coton cost 3 euros in China, 5 euros in North Africa and can be 16 euros in countries like Madagascar. Fairly good sneakers ar around 1 euro. The rest is all marketing, shipping, packaging and mark up.

[@miriamhavard7621]

You mean the RealReal is actually FakeFake?????!!!! 😮 Allegedly. 😊

[@awaitingSaint777]

All great points. People that are complaining about the prices are jealous because they can't afford it. I can't afford it right now but I'm not mad. I want some. ❤

[@tamarfischer283]

And who cares about luxury stores and abusive salespeople ? I'd rather pay for a beautiful bag that I'll have for years

[@darnisejennings9138]

Tanner makes me proud of my coach and Louis Vuitton purchases.

[@tamarfischer283]

His marketing is even more genius than you say. He NEVER tells you to buy from him but everybody comes to that conclusion by themselves and he is all sold out. But he is SUPER entertaining and does a GREAT job at marketing. And I find him genuine and likeable so yes- I'll try his bags. I certainly would never buy a bag for thousands. You don't need tanner to tell you these things are overpriced- but he has a super entertaining way of showing it. I wouldn't miss a single one of his videos

[@glockenrein]

Just because Hermes made up a fancy name for the leather they use doesn’t mean people can’t see the actual leather for what it is. If you serve me chocolate and call it something else I’ll still be able to tell it’s chocolate and judge how it tastes.

[@jenylogan1]

I realise the blogger is American, but he should be aware that fascination’ is an absolute, you are not ‘ quite’ or ‘very’ fascinated, you are simply fascinated. I do not understand what algorithm brings these puerile videos in my orbit .

[@rlkinnard]

Tanner does not talk about the cost of design, but Hermes bags were designed decades ago, the Kelly in the 30s, the Birkin in the 80s. Knowing about leather does not mean that you know how Hermes brands their leather. He probably knows enough to determine the cost of the leather and construction and enough to tell people that they are paying for image and not for quality.

[@ChrisCanomi]

I love his brand Pegai “dopp kit” model❤

[@melindaadetona5058]

There really is no justification for the prices luxury brands charge. The quality, perhaps Hermes aside, is suffering and going down hill. LV and Channel are excellent examples of this. Higher prices and worse quality. I am not surprised people are angry. When you spend that kind of money you have a right to expect more.

[@prestonval4439]

"Ouch or Amen ", are the only replies warranted after Tanner's reviews. He dissects leather bags but you'e discrediting the RealReal.

[@lu_re7198]

Because Dacob thinks he knows more than professional authenticators.

[@ajarnchristian]

why are people coming for Dacob? His two-cents is very welcomed in this video and I love how he gives his opinion without being "extra". love your content. sorry I followed you so late in the game. Im playing catch up with all your videos... Im now in 2023 Dacob youtube era. haha

[@tamarfischer283]

Leatherstein is COOL. and he knows a lot about leathers. Big deal- clemens, Togo. Overpriced- that's for sure. I'm shopping with tanner.

[@DubSalvation]

The state of this dude

[@Bakerygo]

I visited the online shop of Tanner and I wasn't impressed by the products. They seemed alright but not my cup of tea. They lacked luxury in my eyes. He's not entirely wrong with the point he's trying to make but I agree that you're not paying for just the product when you're buying from a big brand. Personally I can't justify to myself a bag that's more than 1000€. There are luxury brands with comparable quality to that of a big brand but in lower price range. There's a tradeoff to be made, price vs brand recognition.

[@tinakris7893]

I really think you just have to take it for what it is. I watched his videos for quite some time. He seems like a kind person. I purchased his long wallet made of quilted lambskin that he touted as being just as good as Chanel, and i have to say that I was not really impressed with the leather. The craftsmanship was pretty good, and there was beautiful sections of leather on the inside. However, the lambskin leather on the outside overall felt dry, looked matte and did not feel luxurious, nothing compared to Chanel. I think that definitely taught me not to trust anyone automatically, even if it seems like they know what they're talking about. Everyone is trying to make a living. I have also promised myself that I will never purchase anything that an influencer has been sponsored for.

[@DIYTRUTH]

This right here is exactly what Dacob was trying to tell everyone.....thank you for sharing your purchase experience with us as I even ventured into the website for a serious look and well, I just couldnt get over the fact that I felt like everything Tanner has done up to this point was just marketing for his own brand......

[@GrammarSplaining]

What Tanner continually fails to see is that what something is "worth" is simply and entirely what people are willing to pay. It's not a bare formula of the combined cost of labor and goods, nor is it even the label. An antique baseball card is nothing but OLD ink and paper with the labor cost meaningless in 2023, overall virtually "worthless" -- but it could go for a thousand dollars because it's worth that much to people who prize such things.

[@Divinenubian]

None of the bags are worth it we just appreciate his content so we understand what we are buying

[@seabreeze4559]

I generally believe him but as a KZbinr assume he embellishes specifics sometimes, for entertainment.

[@waynesabados4048]

I’m in agreement with you. I do occasionally watch him, specifically for entertainment! Who doesn’t dream of ripping one of our bags apart to see how they’re made. It’s like the gentleman who cuts shoes in half to see their construction. I’ve learned quite a bit from both of them on bag and shoe assembly. As for the ‘down with luxury’ comments that are posted, it’s basically people showing their frustrations - they would like to have those items but for what ever reason cannot justify the purchase. If your budget is Coach, that’s wonderful…if its LV, that’s wonderful too!

[@imnugget8085]

I bought one of his goods its last 2 years no wear or tear so it's worth it if you travel if you don't travel alot cause you can't afford it lets be honest then yah. Honestly he may be secret luxury if he didn't have the youtube channel bit its worth it

[@bobluchetta-stendel3863]

This was the first video of yours that I’ve ever seen and I loved it. I love your skepticism and critical thinking. Thanks for sharing

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you 🥰🙏🏻💖

[@inabruesuig]

this is a gossip awful video. Tanner does wonderful videos and he is an expert, 'gorl'

[@ginzaboy8460]

One thing that is important to remember with mainstream luxury brands as opposed to independent craftsmen is the service you get. When you buy something from LV, Hermes, or Chanel and you have a problem with it, you can take it to any of their hundreds of stores worldwide and they will take care of you. When you buy from small, independent brands, it is more difficult to get service or repairs in case something goes wrong. Especially for people who don't live in major cities, the service/repair aspect is a very important consideration when buying luxury.

[@tarreemhacaruso2687]

Agreed. I had a vintage Hermes bag restored by them to like new condition. I won’t take their bags anywhere else

[@expiredtea5800]

"please do not brands brainwash you" -you as you defend Hermes xD

[@SuperDacob]

I do not defend Hermes as a whole. Nothing is only black or white! What is bad is bad and I call it out but I will also always praise what I find good in a person, brand or anything really. You do not seem to understand how critical thinking works. Might be time for you to step away from social media for a while and read a few books first to level yourself out a bit and learn to empathize.

[@tamarfischer283]

I'll correct you, you are wrong. Tanner always mentions the marketing, stores, advertisement that it costs designers to sell bags. He just says if you don't care about those thi gs (and I dont) then don't waste your money

[@SuperDacob]

I’ll correct you. You are wrong. His assessment of the costs is flawed. If you don’t care about the budgets, then don’t comment on them.

[@tamarfischer283]

@@SuperDacob excuse me. You said we should correct you if you are wrong about leatherstein not mentioning the immense marketing expenses the fancy brands have. THATS what I'm correcting you about. I am not a bag maker so I wouldn't comment on the cost of leather production

[@ingridkiss3402]

There are plenty of vintage Evelynes for sale in Togo (including on Sotheby's). Are you telling us they are all fake?? Maybe you should have done some research.

[@DIYTRUTH]

That's not what Dacob said, watch the video again. Did you go watch the 50 second video that Tanner made? Did you see the leathers? I am no expert but they look like 2 different leathers with the purse having Clemence and the unrolled dyed half skin being Togo.....Dacob is right, Tanner is just dogging other brands while selling his own brand. Its obvious what Tanner is doing-its a shitty marketing strategy and if Tanner was truly being honest he would have bought directly from Hermes to inspect a truly authentic piece.

[@DIYTRUTH]

Here we are over a year later and still people come to this comment section defending Tanner when it is obvious what he has been doing all along which is marketing for his brand and this is what Dacob was trying to tell us but of course everyone defends Tanner cause he has to be honest, right? Nobody putting down another brand while selling their own is honest.....wake up people!

[@chauminh]

Merci

[@chauminh]

I saw an authentic Evelyn hermes bag online

[@premeyumlife443]

Thanks for this my love, I didn’t know about him. 🙏🏼😘😘😘Sandy

[@MoniSandoval-he5ms]

Thank you for opening up my eyes. I went to his website to see the bags he sells, and it doesn’t mention where they are Made. But I did notice that he prices the bags he destroys within the price range of the bags he sells. However, the quality of his product does not look similar to the bags he destroys. I’m not justifying the price of the bags he destroys-they can be less expensive and still make a significant profit. But if everyone had it, no one would want it because it wouldn’t be as remarkable. That said, some prices are ridiculously expensive-$30,000 for a bag. And I understand why some people may be angry about the price since it’s just not attainable for most people-$10,000 or more for a bag is pretty outrageous. Then they see people buying multiple 10,000k plus bags through social media. That’s why more individuals fake their wealth, companies have started restricting returns, and people are buying replicas. Plus, some companies have done something similar in the past, but instead of pricing their items high for only wealthy individuals-companies have only wanted certain people in their clothing-thin and beautiful.

[@MC-kl5mp]

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[@mainelux5482]

I love Tanner. Love Himalaya Michele more than all youtubers as marquitalv that only show off her bags and pretend to be a small size while she is at leader a xl. Liar

[@kamikani08]

Tanner is legit, secondly, there are evelyne bags have been made in togo leather, The RealReal does sell authentic products, there has reports of Fashionphile having replicas at their site as well but it seems they go under the radar...I have seen the video that Tanner made on this several times and I still bought my evelyne from The RealReal...lets not get triggered when we hear TRR...luxury items can when someone or someone's doesn't do due diligence when it come the authenticity luxury items..

[@aureliegoncalves5241]

They re both taurillon 😂 so if doesnt effect is ability just because a brand give names on is leather it still a taurillon leather with a medium grain, for an craft man doesnt change anything

[@rainerschellenberg5621]

OMG! I always learn a lot with your videos, Dacob. Thank you for the conversation 😊

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you Rainer 🙏🏻💖🌅

[@MoniSandoval-he5ms]

Thank you for opening my eyes. He does fall to mention everything is stated location of the boutiques, marketing website, engineers, photographers employees, wages, benefits, packaging, shipping, Designers, etc. I looked into his company that makes bangs, and they don’t say where they’re made, and the quality is not as excellent as some of these bags are destroyed. I’m not justifying the price of those bags. They could be cheaper, and they could make less of a profit, but he’s comparing apples to oranges.

[@gen_o]

Dacob, on second view and since we were on the subject of research, I looked him up, reading some articles back in 2021 including one from FT. His creds seem to speak something but what I took away is that he did not hide that he was hoping that this increased viewer/ follower base “might build interest in his own brand”. So your suspicion has been confirmed. Still does not change my stance that his marketing strategy does not make me want to buy his leather goods. I also looked into the IG post and comments (the very slow sleuth that I am lol😅). I think that right now he may be in the process of having his Hermes bag authenticated (I understood his response to mean that this has not been authenticated yet ; he said they will look into it) and for all we know, he’s going to end up claiming a refund from the RealReal (is that allowed? I don’t know). So we may all have to wait a bit longer before that axe falls into the poor Evelyne’s bag. 😉

[@SuperDacob]

Great detective work Gen O! Sly fox 🦊🥰💖💖💖

[@andyzamora584]

If I’m buying luxury I like to be romanced about the product, I don’t want to hear about the factories, all the details how they’re made!

[@SuperDacob]

Very fair point Andy 🙏🏻💖

[@ditsygirl5409]

I think the real real gave a wrong description. I saw the clip and immediately noticed that it’s not Togo leather as the leather is smoother so it should be clemence. But then it tells us that this guy don’t know hermes leather.

[@chemdawgsd2146]

🤡🤡🤡

[@SMR218]

Thank you for this video Dacob! I agree with your thoughts. I watched a few of Tanner’s videos and felt they where missing the points that you brought up: A luxury handbag is more than just the materials is made of. There’s the design, training, marketing, years and years to build up a reputation etc. I also felt a lot of resentment from those who commented on his videos. Unnecessary negativity…Ultimately nobody forces anyone to buy from a luxury brand.

[@stell7469]

Tanner is legit

[@jennalofsness9897]

The critical thinking comment is so beyond true! 💯

[@teresalehtonen8499]

You are just funny

[@AmbercoolPhotography]

Technically for all reviews, items should be purchased directly or from authorized resellers. So Tanner reviewed a non-authorized retailer, and that is a different category.

[@SuperDacob]

Great point 👍

[@rozsakyshki1930]

You dissecting this situation… ❤ the analysis of the omnipresent and oh so powerful marketing darling

[@SuperDacob]

We go we go Rozsa 😉🙏🏻💖

[@rozsakyshki1930]

@@SuperDacob We go wee go, we-go we-go wee go… 🎶

[@cordulam]

What I find annoying about Tanner is the stupidity of his calculations. Material plus wage for the worker is how he calculates the worth of a bag. Running a business requires much more than that. I also don't trust his knowledge about the prices of leather and hardware. Tanner seems to be an experienced cobbler though. So I do trust his judgement about how well a bag is crafted.

[@TC-fq7cy]

No need to phone Hermès, just go to the boutique you will get one if it’s available( in Europe).

[@graceprotocol4842]

It's this video that made me subscribe 💯 #criticalthinking

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you for subscribing to my channel Grace 🥰💖🌅

[@Tommaso_Squarzoni]

People would do anything for money… I guess he just wanted the views and forgot to do his research…

[@13ikea]

Classics With a Quirk warned us . 🤐 Also, Him reaching out to Hermes via phone says a lot… is he REALLY knowledgeable about these luxury houses? 😂

[@SuperDacob]

Its the phone call to Hermes for me! 🥴

[@-gavyn-]

exactly, i wish classicswithaquirk didn't delete her video. let's face the facts, he doesn't know nearly as much as people think he does & they place way way too much merit into his word.

[@13ikea]

@@-gavyn- didn’t notice she deleted it . 😧

[@staciarenee2982]

He didn't claim to know all about luxury houses, he just buys them to see the leather quality and craftsmanship. I don't think he's a luxury lover like us lol.

[@13ikea]

@@staciarenee2982 which further validates Dacob’s point of why some houses charge what they charge. 😂

[@MC-kl5mp]

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[@SuperDacob]

🙏🏻💖🌅

[@MC-kl5mp]

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[@bellepierre24]

I've watched his videos and I am always baffled at his disrespect of other people's work. Just because he charges $0.50 for per hour for his labour doesn't mean that is the rate that others charge. If you think a product is "overpriced" you are not the target customer. Luxury goods are no one's birthright. People feel that they are entitled to own these brands and will buy fakes to pretend to be in the economic sphere to be seen with what appears to be such goods. But who are you kidding, you know you are a fraud when you are buy a fake of a product beyond your means. People being vexed at the prices of luxury purses shows how screwed up people are.

[@MC-kl5mp]

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[@curlykutie]

I don’t think leather specialists know that much about Hermes or to know that they have multiple leathers.

[@SuperDacob]

They don’t need to know but if they want to make a video about an Hermes bag and the leather of that bag en they need to do proper research first otherwise they can come across as someone who just wants to make a sensationalistic video for the sake of views but with not so much integrity.

[@curlykutie]

@@SuperDacob Well cutting through a Chanel wallet could also be indication of what his end game is.

[@MC-kl5mp]

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[@madamerhos]

‘Applause applause’ for YOU, such a great video again! I saw his video just this morning by accident and skipped when I saw the bag is from the real real. Now watching yours, we love your analysis ❤️

[@SuperDacob]

Thank you Madame Rhos 🥹🙏🏻💖