Clues (TNG S4E14) | Star Trek Journey 195

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@targetaudience
@targetaudience 2 күн бұрын
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@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 2 күн бұрын
When the lads said they wanted a real mystery, where the audience weren't ahead, I started waiting for this one.
@TheElderBlotch
@TheElderBlotch 2 күн бұрын
I love Clues because episodes like this and Brothers show that while Data is invaluable as an ally, he can be unnerving, uncanny and downright terrifying as an enemy.
@ANTIStraussian
@ANTIStraussian 2 күн бұрын
I hated when that random writer added a throw away line that he had been in starfleet for 27 years before joining the enterprise. Dude has been with humans for 27 years and has never heard "early bird gets the worm"
@ShamrockParticle
@ShamrockParticle 2 күн бұрын
​@ANTIStraussian but the other episode that says the early bird that hesitates gets wormed
@jdb101585
@jdb101585 2 күн бұрын
@@ANTIStraussian Maybe it's not an overly common saying in the future?
@existentialgamer9206
@existentialgamer9206 2 күн бұрын
Me too. Never noticed as a kid, but rewatching as an adult I’m like wow, Data is dangerous! Invaluable when he’s on your side and he has saved the day plenty of times but if something goes wrong, watch out
@accidentalmadness1708
@accidentalmadness1708 2 күн бұрын
@@ANTIStraussianhe also apparently didn’t have any rights for those 27 years.
@evannuh-koo-la4054
@evannuh-koo-la4054 2 күн бұрын
I found it very considerate of the Paxans to put on Troi's uniform, do her hair, and her makeup when they possess her the second time
@miller-joel
@miller-joel 2 күн бұрын
Well, they are not monsters!
@kerry-j4m
@kerry-j4m 2 күн бұрын
There're somethings even alien possession can't stop a woman from doing,her hair and make-up. And of course no female officer will walk around the ship in their sleeping clothes either.
@paulpolpiboon9535
@paulpolpiboon9535 2 күн бұрын
Huh! Didn't think of that. Perhaps her unconscious still has some passing control on a mere reflexive level? Like if she picked something up, it would still be her right hand, if she had to go to the washroom she wouldn't do it in her pants, if she started moving around she wouldn't skip or run, she'd walk, all these daily type of decisions etc etc Hell maybe she even brushed her teeth LOL. Anyways that's my guess
@tracycampbell4526
@tracycampbell4526 2 күн бұрын
You don’t want to know what else they did.
@moosematson3892
@moosematson3892 2 күн бұрын
Data's ability to (on a Dime!) Switch and make you worried or even terrified of him. Is crazy amazing.
@MerelyAFan
@MerelyAFan 2 күн бұрын
Given the fact that there's no indication that Troi's possession gave her enhanced strength, I choose to believe that she has the ability to manhandle Worf at any point and is just too polite to demonstrate it.
@rhaedas9085
@rhaedas9085 2 күн бұрын
Worf did say there were a few on the ship that could hurt him.
@kurtl8425
@kurtl8425 2 күн бұрын
Well she clearly has been taking Worf’s “Klingon-fu” classes.
@paul_andrews
@paul_andrews 2 күн бұрын
Data did say they could manipulate matter.
@andymccurdy5029
@andymccurdy5029 2 күн бұрын
we know troi can do it Klingon style form the ep parallels so the evidence is mounting to say you might be right
@noquarterracing3637
@noquarterracing3637 2 күн бұрын
Are Betazeds secret badasses? Lol
@Gregory11811
@Gregory11811 2 күн бұрын
The Hunt for Red October is terrific and I will die on that hill!
@targetaudience
@targetaudience 2 күн бұрын
Rest in peace 🙏🏻
@jvmauck
@jvmauck 2 күн бұрын
@@targetaudience I'll also be sharing that grave. Red October is fantastic. Lol.
@tjkhanks
@tjkhanks 2 күн бұрын
Don't be too upset. They just don't like the movie because he didn't get to see Montana. 😅
@vohbovohborian28
@vohbovohborian28 2 күн бұрын
It's a fantastic movie yes
@wfe4210
@wfe4210 2 күн бұрын
It doesn't surprise me. You can never tell what they like.
@cteal2018
@cteal2018 2 күн бұрын
Gordie and the beard thing becomes something of a meme. LaVar wanted to grow a beard, but the studio wouldn't let him. SO he started mentioning it in episodes....
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 2 күн бұрын
Imagine how absolutely creepy it would be to look in a mirror, it's your face, but it isn't you in the reflection. Pure nightmare fuel.
@ClamBurger66
@ClamBurger66 2 күн бұрын
Thats called aging lol
@newdefsys
@newdefsys 2 күн бұрын
One of TNG's best episodes. Data's unflinching poker face as Picard calls him out over the fake probe image is the chef's kiss.
@BEW419
@BEW419 2 күн бұрын
re: The probe. The first time Data suggested sending a probe. The second time it was Riker's idea.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
They really didn't need to bring back Dixon Hill's secretary, but it's such a nice touch.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
Worf is leading a class in a Klingon martial art called Mok'bara. It is really just tai chi done with more aggressive motions and clawed hands. Visual effects producer Dan Curry was a practitioner of tai chi and thought it would be fun to bring it into Klingon culture and show Worf training the crew. So yeah, Worf as security chief has taken it upon himself to teach his fellow officers some unarmed self-defense techniques. Pretty cool idea! It's also probably a pretty good exercise for recreational purposes on long journeys between star systems.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, I really liked that touch. I can see, on a ship of a thousand people, you would have people that are pretty adept and advanced in their hobbies or practices and you'd form clubs and groups just for that thing. I imagine that same space being reserved for other physical activities, piano classes being led by a crew member or like a hiking club making use of the holodeck once or twice a month with members going to exotic locations that aren't even on Earth.
@actor_jim
@actor_jim 2 күн бұрын
Always wanted a line from Worf "Counselor TROI broke my wrist?!?"
@Reepicheep-1
@Reepicheep-1 2 күн бұрын
"Try not to break any bones."
@jamessatter7418
@jamessatter7418 2 күн бұрын
Soon we find out that Josh and Alex previously reviewed this episode but all memory of the original review was striken from their minds by an extraterrestrial.
@griffinsummoner
@griffinsummoner Күн бұрын
That's what Josh remembers on the "second viewing"
@radwolf76
@radwolf76 2 күн бұрын
Geordie, in the Holodeck, with the Phaser. No, wait, that's Clue the board game.
@mikeclemens795
@mikeclemens795 2 күн бұрын
Or a Tamarian metaphor!
@moosematson3892
@moosematson3892 2 күн бұрын
This wonderful episode again tells me why Data is my favorite character and Brent Spiner is such a great actor.
@davidmarsden192
@davidmarsden192 2 күн бұрын
This is one of my favourites! I watched them all as they were originally broadcast, and I remember being really impressed by it (and talking about it at work the next day).
@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 2 күн бұрын
Data didn't suggest the probe the final time, it was Riker who suggested it, that's why Data seems happier with the outcome the final time.
@peregrine5327
@peregrine5327 2 күн бұрын
"Make it the fifth time, like, 'you're telling me we did this once before? Actually, sir, this is the seventeeth time we've done it.'" Haha... yeah, that'd be a crazy episode! Anyway.
@miguelvelez7221
@miguelvelez7221 Күн бұрын
Haha... Yes... What a totally unlikely thing to happen to the Enterprise D crew. The odds are very much against such a thing happening... Anyway... 😊
@tnolddawg
@tnolddawg 2 күн бұрын
The reason the image was changed (according to Starfleet lore) was that a class M planet (habitable by humans) would have required another look, but a gas giant is so common they could continue on to the next item on the duty list
@busimagen
@busimagen 2 күн бұрын
Yes. This. A habitable planet would just encourage them to investigate it more, and then send more people from Starfleet to investigate, and thousands of people from throughout the Federation to want to come and settle or exploit, etc. etc.
@coecludd
@coecludd 2 күн бұрын
Did you know that you can tell roughly where you are in the TNG series by the stardate? Always starts with a 4. The second digit tells you the season, the third digit between 0 and 9 tells you where in the season. This episode has a stardate that starts 445... 4, 4(season) 5 - halfway through season 4 🙂 Therefore the last moment of series 4 would be 449999!
@BrandonBlume
@BrandonBlume 2 күн бұрын
This is one of those episodes I always go back to. I love a good mystery.
@MikeJF85
@MikeJF85 2 күн бұрын
The reasoning with the probes was: an M-Class planet that can support life is worthy of investigation. So he wanted to switch it out for something that wasn't worth the Enterprise going back for, and said that the earlier image was an error, a false image from the wormhole. Probably Geordi helped him fake better probe results the second time around before the memory wipe.
@roguejoe
@roguejoe 2 күн бұрын
Proof that bottle episodes can be amazing.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 2 күн бұрын
Data: "Captain, could you just please let this go?"
@miller-joel
@miller-joel 2 күн бұрын
Picard: "Data, have you met me? Can't let go is my other middle name."
@danielwarrenguitar
@danielwarrenguitar 2 күн бұрын
This was the 4th most-rewatched episode of TNG when it was on Netflix. You've already reacted to #1 and 2 ("Best of Both Worlds") and #3 ("Q Who").
@J4ME5_
@J4ME5_ 2 күн бұрын
Did we just peak?
@BintyMcFrazzles
@BintyMcFrazzles 2 күн бұрын
@@J4ME5_ Noooo, there are some outstanding episodes to come......and a few turds.
@J4ME5_
@J4ME5_ 2 күн бұрын
@@BintyMcFrazzles I know, I'm just being dramatic, it's kinda my thing.
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 2 күн бұрын
One subtle difference between the "iterations" is that, in the second one, it's Riker, not Data, who suggests the probe.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 2 күн бұрын
At the end, when Picard pauses at Data's recommendation, I don't know that he remembers, but I think he gets a suspicious feeling that he let's go for whatever reason.
@griffinsummoner
@griffinsummoner Күн бұрын
Deja Vu. Sometimes you listen to that instinct, and sometimes you dismiss it as coincidence. Even in "Cause and Effect" it took several loops and repeated instances in the same day for them to really pay attention.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd Күн бұрын
@@griffinsummoner Spoiler alert
@juandesalgado
@juandesalgado 2 күн бұрын
The "weird aerobic class" at the beginning is, if I'm not mistaken, Tai Chi.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
It's based on tai chi, and the forms you see would be recognizable to anyone at even a beginner level of tai chi, but it's done in a more aggressive way with clawed hands to make it into the Klingon martial art Mok'bara. Worf is teaching the class, either as a way of sharing his cultural heritage with his friends for recreational exercise, or I always liked to think it was because as security chief he figured it would be good for officers onboard to know some unarmed martial arts besides the usual silly-looking stage fighting techniques Starfleet usually uses.
@LiveFreeOrDieDH
@LiveFreeOrDieDH 2 күн бұрын
@@fakecubed But Starfleet regulation stage combat is perfect for bar fights with semi-hostile aliens while not being lethal enough to create serious diplomatic incidents 😂
@karlsmith2570
@karlsmith2570 2 күн бұрын
@juandesalgado Actually, it's a Klingon martial art called Mok Bara, but it's based on Tai-Chi
@minywheats
@minywheats 2 күн бұрын
This is the episode I remember so vividly as a kid. I love this episode
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 2 күн бұрын
Question: does Guinan remember? I say yes.
@jerome1lm
@jerome1lm 2 күн бұрын
she even recognized a shift in timelines. you're probably right
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 2 күн бұрын
Her physiology is probably well known enough that they should know how to erase her memory selectively. There’s a ton of different species on board, and they’d have to potentially use different techniques on them too. Beverly should know immediately if any of species on board wouldn’t be able to have their memories erased if she keeps up with the medical needs of the crew and passengers.
@cteal2018
@cteal2018 2 күн бұрын
If the Enterprise was around the planet for more than a few days, Starfleet will begin to wonder where their flagship is. Eventually more ships would show up, and then we have a completely different episode.
@Michael-id9bw
@Michael-id9bw 2 күн бұрын
Definitely an S tier episode for me.
@hunterpdx7061
@hunterpdx7061 2 күн бұрын
This is one of those episodes where Data demonstrates his absolute devotion to friends and crew. He's willing to be dissected to protect them. Though, upon thinking about it, it's kind of odd that Picard would say that, given he helped argue for Data's own right to self-determination. It's unlikely he would consent to being disassembled.
@qam2024
@qam2024 2 күн бұрын
While Data didn't tell anyone, he still let them go back where there was a good chance they would destroy the ship, he didn't know that they would be willing to give them another chance. There was many things he could have done to stop them from going back, break the ship so they have to go back to a starbase for example.
@ThomasReeves-s7u
@ThomasReeves-s7u 2 күн бұрын
Maybe the right of sentient androids who committed crimes is a still a gray area? I mean would prison work with Data? Is there a cage that can keep him?
@ProfMoff
@ProfMoff 2 күн бұрын
I lost. I had Mr Worf in the billiard room with the candle stick
@maschwab63
@maschwab63 2 күн бұрын
Carefully remember Guinan's reactions as later reveals of her background come up.
@timmeyer9191
@timmeyer9191 2 күн бұрын
One of my favorite TNG episodes
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 2 күн бұрын
The problem with Josh's rewrite of having more attempts is the more attempts the longer period of time there is and the more clues you're going to leave behind. One thing I like about the episode is that everyone in Starfleet, especially on the Enterprise, especially the bridge crew are extremely bright. They're all scientist and engineers, maybe not to each other's levels, but if something is wrong, they're most likely going to figure it out. If you leave clues in their field of expertise, you're screwed.
@stuffyouotterlistento1461
@stuffyouotterlistento1461 2 күн бұрын
Them having done something a bunch of times is an interesting idea, but the main drawback I can see with it is that you lose the whole "humans love a mystery" thing, because it'd be like: "Yeah, you've already told us that 37 times". The way that the episode goes makes for a more meaningful interaction and a diagnosis of the problem, rather than just "Okay, let's try this again, for the 43rd time".
@Lincynity1
@Lincynity1 Күн бұрын
@@TopGunZero There's also the high likelihood the aliens who were already poised to kill everyone would lose patience. They barely tolerated going through it twice, let alone dozens of times.
@Lincynity1
@Lincynity1 Күн бұрын
Reducing the aggression of the Paxans would effectively neuter the episode. Data would be keeping a secret that risked his standing in Starfleet and existence to avoid pissing off some aliens who aren't going to do anything about it besides be disgruntled?
@Jim-Mc
@Jim-Mc 2 күн бұрын
Great example of an interesting Sci fi concept executed well. Also probably any Vulcan could break Worfs wrist.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 2 күн бұрын
"Tell him it's Gloria from... Cleveland." TA: Eeeeeyyyyyyyy!!! 😄❤
@johnpozniak8897
@johnpozniak8897 2 күн бұрын
The difference between launching the probe at the beginning and at the finale, is that for the latter, Data lets Riker suggest launching the probe, thus deflecting some suspicion from him later when the telemetry comes back wonky, as it wasn't Data's idea to launch one.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 2 күн бұрын
With glee Alex puts his 'We have a mystery!' hat back on. I don't need to see any more beyond that point to know this will be an enjoyable watch and thus need to comment now.
@J4ME5_
@J4ME5_ 2 күн бұрын
A true mystery! Let's go! I know exactly what tier this is gonna be
@thomasgrimm1664
@thomasgrimm1664 2 күн бұрын
And the hat goes back on! This is a great mystery episode. Love to see Data trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
@dankoba1
@dankoba1 2 күн бұрын
This was my favorite episode as a kid.
@Drew-cv2jl
@Drew-cv2jl 2 күн бұрын
I've always LOOOOOOOOOOVED this episode!!!!
@miller-joel
@miller-joel 2 күн бұрын
It should have been called Geordie's Beard, though.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 2 күн бұрын
The sheer and utter disrespect for Hunt for Red October continues!! 🤣❤
@RedmoonIndustries
@RedmoonIndustries 2 күн бұрын
There is a couple episodes in Star Trek history (all shows) that I thought if someone was keeping a written diary (physical book) it would have broken the episode, leading the crew to knowing what happened early. What makes the show great is that they have someone in charge of episode lore to let them know if something in the past would break an episode. Edit: some of it is like "we have Whoopi for the next 7 days, we need to film this Guinan episode, and these three scenes for other episodes" and basically all her scenes for four episodes are filmed now because she will not be available for the next 3 weeks.
@heather9857
@heather9857 Күн бұрын
Really excited for them to get to this episode. Love Clues, The Hunt for Red October and The Target Audience.
@seraphinaaizen6278
@seraphinaaizen6278 2 күн бұрын
I like that Worf is seen in the background nursing his broken wrist immediately after they wake up, long before it's mentioned. And when Troi almost collapses on the bridge, he reaches out to grab her with his left arm even though you'd think his right arm would be more natural. But he doesn't use it, because his wrist is broken, even though that hasn't been highlighted in the episode yet. It's a really nice bit of attention to detail.
@rafetizer
@rafetizer 2 күн бұрын
Clues is always a fun watch! Data can be extremely unnerving.
@JMcG888
@JMcG888 2 күн бұрын
So glad y’all appreciate the world building in Trek! It’s so rich and with a few exceptions, it’s coherent and respected. TNG is like watching a great band all grooving together.
@wackyvorlon
@wackyvorlon 2 күн бұрын
This is one of my favourites. The mystery is so well built and executed.
@greenbrown7776
@greenbrown7776 2 күн бұрын
I'm with the Patrons. A rock-solid "A" for me. But I can definitely understand giving it an "S."
@NateOlson
@NateOlson 2 күн бұрын
Data used a fake planet for the probe because the real planet is Class M and would have been too interesting for Picatd to not investigate for life.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 2 күн бұрын
A Class M (human similar life habitable) planet in a T Tauri type star system would be very unusual. T Tauri stars are very young and active. It would be worthy of investigation to find how a Class M planet would have already developed around such a star.
@Justin.Franks
@Justin.Franks 2 күн бұрын
@@mjbull5156 Not just very young, _extremely_ young. Just a few million years old. They haven't even begun fusing hydrogen yet. There's no way a Class M planet could have formed naturally in that time, which suggests that it was either terraformed, or perhaps even placed there artificially. Definitely worthy of exploration.
@qam2024
@qam2024 2 күн бұрын
@@mjbull5156 In the Star Trek Universe, planets around young blue stars that rapidly evolved intelligent life are apparently very common. See the Shelliac , Vega, Altair, Rigel, Deneb for example.
@tideoftime
@tideoftime 2 күн бұрын
17:50 -- "Yesterday's Enterprise" is similar, as the only person who has memories of it as an event is Guinan (and even then, her memories are likely dreamlike, not concrete, more so a sense of intuition than specific memories). 34:15 -- relative to Guinan's presence, it's a 2 level thing: 1) it breaks the pattern of "if Guinan's here, she must have a prominent connection/be important to The Plot(tm)", letting her instead simply be having "x" casual experience/presence in the narrative the way some others did in showing day-to-day life on the ship; and 2) it likely was filmed around Whoopie Goldberg's limited shooting blocks during her recurring status on the show (this was back when Whoopie was highly phobic about plane travel and took trains/tour buses/ships to get places vs flying) -- not all of her scenes for "x" episodes were necessarily shot in the same week/two weeks that others shot "x" episode(s)/scene(s), with some of her scenes shot for several episodes within a given shooting block so as to accommodate her being in movies, doing standup touring, etc and et al. Though usually shot in-sync relative to full inclusion in "x" stories, some of her cameo appearances were shot literally when she happened to be in town and could come in to shoot for 1-2 days for inclusion in a given episode, sometimes as a relatively last-minute inclusion. (She *has*, in more recent years/the past decade, gotten better about her fear of flying, so now occasionally does it if warranted by necessity, though still prefers to drive/go by train, etc, to get to places when/where practical.)
@gehrehmee
@gehrehmee 2 күн бұрын
*checking to see if you've seen episode blankitty-blank of season blank* NOPE! This is going to be fun.
@rusbell2981
@rusbell2981 2 күн бұрын
This is one of my all time favorites, i loved watching this as a kid!
@richierich398
@richierich398 2 күн бұрын
Diana really took those tai chi lessons to heart
@larryshumaker5571
@larryshumaker5571 2 күн бұрын
Timeloop would be a fun idea for an episode.
@paul_andrews
@paul_andrews 2 күн бұрын
They did that already, ‘Time Squared’ in series 2 where Picard murders himself.
@huskerchuck9212
@huskerchuck9212 2 күн бұрын
For me, this is a top 10 TNG episode. Excellent mystery!
@krthompson7519
@krthompson7519 2 күн бұрын
“Figuring out,” at least for me as close as I got, was figuring out that Data was acting at someone else’s behest or under duress without actually being *controlled* or otherwise altered. There’s a lot of stuff where he’s very carefully saying stuff like “I can not tell you that” rather than “I do not know,” and that’s the direction my own thoughts went! But yeah, it’d be pretty difficult to predict the actual full plot, hah.
@paul_andrews
@paul_andrews 2 күн бұрын
My annoyances: - beards not growing was explained because of the stasis field. But Data took them out of stasis. - their circadian rhythm was out of sync ‘by 24 hours’. So it would be _back_ in sync. But that aside; if the captain announced you had a day and at the end all memories would be wiped and no-one was allowed to keep a log; what would _you_ get up to?
@justinschmelzel8806
@justinschmelzel8806 2 күн бұрын
To note the first time the probe is suggested by Data. The second time the probe is suggested by Riker. Taking suspicion off Data as the first and second officer are now both on the same page for what they should do and if they fix the plant thing and the injuries heal enough to not bother anyone. All of those red flags would disappear causing no one to look further in.
@deathbysnoosnoo8640
@deathbysnoosnoo8640 2 күн бұрын
Already a patreon! My first one. Congratulations!🎉
@noquarterracing3637
@noquarterracing3637 2 күн бұрын
One of my favorites episodes, can't wait to see your take on it.
@noquarterracing3637
@noquarterracing3637 2 күн бұрын
Okay, re the discussion, two words: Kelsey Grammar
@alexandretorres5087
@alexandretorres5087 2 күн бұрын
NOW that's a memorable episode! Good scifi mystery with Data being Data
@BlameThande
@BlameThande Күн бұрын
Fun fact: The Star Trek Encyclopaedia has an entry for the location in this episode which is something like "This nebula, nothing to report, nothing of interest" because it's written from an in-universe perspective and nothing was ever reported back to Starfleet about the Paxans.
@marklsimonson
@marklsimonson 2 күн бұрын
Whoopi Goldberg wanted to be on the show (it was she who approached them), but her appearances were usually pretty constrained because of her schedule. Except for a few times, they had to write around this, limiting her to only a scene or two, or when it was several scenes, she would always be on the same set so they could shoot it the same day, etc.
@KatEtoile
@KatEtoile 2 күн бұрын
The irony is, I’d seen this episode before, but completely forgot that, until *they* remembered at the end?? 😂
@brandonbennett2815
@brandonbennett2815 2 күн бұрын
Alex gets the mystery hat, Josh needs a mystery pipe. Data the one person on the ship that could save it or take it over at a whim which he has done. Thankfully Data is on our side.
@sporkless
@sporkless 2 күн бұрын
I always figured after the Paxan left and the crew started working on remediating the possible clues, Picard took Data aside quietly and told him to tell him everything afterward once they were X distance away from the Paxans...
@JAYWALKER1000
@JAYWALKER1000 2 күн бұрын
Consider that Guinan might actually know what happened and agrees with the solution. No one's going to question her on it. - Data's the only one in the hot seat.
@martinfehringer6408
@martinfehringer6408 2 күн бұрын
A german podcast I join gives a DeForrest Kelly Award of Excellence to those episodes that hit the top tier
@gregoryfloriolli9031
@gregoryfloriolli9031 2 күн бұрын
“There are only a handful of people on this ship capable of breaking my wrist.” Who knew Troi would be one of them?
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
Makes you wonder just how strong a full Betazoid is, if a half-Betazoid like Troi can so easily toss Worf around like that. Picard better watch out the next time her mother's onboard and feeling frisky.
@williamozier918
@williamozier918 2 күн бұрын
Because of spoilers I can't make my comment on this right now.
@paulpolpiboon9535
@paulpolpiboon9535 2 күн бұрын
@@fakecubed : Can't tell who's joking here, but Troi doesn't have the strength to break Worfs wrist let alone toss him. She was imbued with unusual power when the powerful beings inhabited her.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
@@paulpolpiboon9535 We're all joking. Everything is a joke.
@Reepicheep-1
@Reepicheep-1 2 күн бұрын
"Try not to break any bones."
@dunringill1747
@dunringill1747 2 күн бұрын
'Clues'! One I remember really enjoying. Sometimes you guys confound me a bit with what you do or don't appreciate, but I predicted you would both score this episode an "S". Yay!
@GalacticGod
@GalacticGod 2 күн бұрын
This is such a great episode. Good thing Wesley was already off the ship, or he would've had the mystery solved in minutes.
@benspratling9041
@benspratling9041 2 күн бұрын
Wesley often kept secrets from everyone, especially when he did something he shouldn't have done. remember the nanites? or the antimatter in the experiment for the hathaway? So it would be more likely that he would be the one lying, and then discover he had accidentally created the omnipotent aliens from a static warp bubble or some such thing.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
This was another one of those episodes where having a bunch of kids on the ship really creates some plot holes. How many of them are just too young to understand the importance of the need to keep this planet secret, or too stubborn to cooperate fully with the plan, and thus leave behind a bunch of clues that the Starfleet crew isn't aware of immediately. Like crayon drawings they don't tell their parents about, made during the missing time, either because they don't want these destroyed or they just forgot to mention them at the time. I just think there'd inevitably be so many clues left behind that they'd pile up and eventually this would all get figured out regardless. Maybe the only way it works is because none of the senior staff notice anything out of place, and they just dismiss the weird reports by the many low ranked crewmen and civilians onboard. Picard listens to Beverly, because he really knows her and trusts her judgement. Some Lieutenant Junior Grade or Ensign might not have the captain's ear.
@XRos28
@XRos28 2 күн бұрын
2:53 This is a S episode, if I ever seen one!!! I think you'll love it as much as I do, at least, I HOPE so!
@jowbloe3673
@jowbloe3673 2 күн бұрын
You made a comment that makes me very excited about a future episode. I can't wait!
@MajorVanBloodnok
@MajorVanBloodnok 2 күн бұрын
Just make sure you get to episode 17 before Halloween
@johnheale6000
@johnheale6000 2 күн бұрын
It's unsettling that Picard threatened to strip Data down to his wires for lying, what would he do to living individual surgery?
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 2 күн бұрын
Vulcan mind probe mook squad.
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, so much for Measure of a Man.
@matthewcollins4773
@matthewcollins4773 2 күн бұрын
​@@fakecubedI think Picard was aware that no matter what the (recent) law says, there are some who would overturn it if they thought Data was a threat. Law is one thing, the sentiment behind it is another...
@rmccombs66
@rmccombs66 2 күн бұрын
When they resynchronized the ship chronometer, how did they not know how much time had passed.
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 23 сағат бұрын
This episode script was a fan suggestion btw. One of the best episodes of the season for sure.
@libertubey2199
@libertubey2199 2 күн бұрын
The second appearance (first appearance was in Future Imperfect) of Nurse Alyssa Ogawa, who is given her first name in this episode. She's played by the late Patti Yasutake, who we lost this year on August 5, one month shy of turning 71. May she Travel In Peace.
@komradewirelesscaller6716
@komradewirelesscaller6716 2 күн бұрын
One of my favorite episodes of the entire series. At this pint in TNG's history the show had become very skilled at doing these type of mystery eps! Very Twilight Zone like.
@mikeclemens795
@mikeclemens795 2 күн бұрын
Gonna need that hat again for The Expanse. And watch your doors and corners. It's where they getcha. 😁
@jeffeffa78
@jeffeffa78 2 күн бұрын
I think you guys forgot that there was a Tasha Yar flashback in season 1. It showed her back on Tarkana IV (I think) in the tunnels with her cat escaping the rape gangs. Or is that considered more of a memory instead of a flashback? 🤔
@targetaudience
@targetaudience 2 күн бұрын
That wasn’t a flashback it was an illusion caused by the situation they were in. Everyone was experiencing them. This was a flashback for the audience.
@DarrenBenfer
@DarrenBenfer 2 күн бұрын
​@@targetaudienceburn
@Daviddaze
@Daviddaze 2 күн бұрын
Over half way in season and still more quality thought provoking stuff to come.
@thebigboo5
@thebigboo5 2 күн бұрын
Yeahhhhhh. Easy S for me. And a good rewatch episode too. I love a good mystery and I think this episode does it really well. So glad you guys enjoyed it.
@thebigboo5
@thebigboo5 2 күн бұрын
Just to add why it's an easy S for me. I love not being ahead of the characters, that makes it a *good* mystery, an easy A. What takes it up to an S for me is how unique it is as an episode. I don't think this has been done before in Star Trek. Having gone around this before. The loss of time. Data not being able to be trusted. Great stuff.
@rusbell2981
@rusbell2981 2 күн бұрын
Guys, I really want to thank you. I'm going through an extremely difficult and turbulent time right now and for the foreseeable future and honestly you guys are really helping me through it, thank you guys. Your the best.
@donovanbradford8231
@donovanbradford8231 12 сағат бұрын
A fun mystery definitely A tier for me as the fact Data is so committed to it that Picard is even threatening him by the end and pleading with him as far as Tori's well being. Just to get to the bottom of the mystery.
@impishmisconception7762
@impishmisconception7762 2 күн бұрын
There is no Deanna only Zuul
@Billis75
@Billis75 2 күн бұрын
"going through things over and over, your brain retains...."
@jamessatter7418
@jamessatter7418 2 күн бұрын
I like Geordi bringing up beard growth, as growing facial hair is a running gag on the show.
@ttanza4004
@ttanza4004 2 күн бұрын
Oreo Coca-Cola at 16:24 I really like that soda as well. :)
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 2 күн бұрын
Any Vulcan can break Worf’s wrist too.
@tonyrichards254
@tonyrichards254 21 сағат бұрын
Just want to say that showing the episode trailer after viewing the episode is awesome and a great touch! I used to live and die by those trailers week to week as a kid. Back in the day, you didn't pay attention after the show - the trailer had done its job. But seeing it after, you can see what story aspects they felt would be the most appealing. Conversely, you can DEFINITELY tell when they're trying to dance around a lame plot.
@self-transforming_machine-elf
@self-transforming_machine-elf 2 күн бұрын
The hat is more Joe Miller than Dixon Hill but aight 😄
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