Tarnished Lost Explained! - Relish Your Remnants!

[@SlayXc2]

If you want to see gameplay of the character you might want to watch mah boi LazyMattman try him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmS6ZnpqptiZhqc

[@Zgrywus100]

what about tarnished Samson?

[@lan_Zed]

SlayXc2 on his way to review a mod that launched 5 seconds ago:

[@joe____]

The mod creators probably gave him a copy in advance and asked him to do an overview

[@opensauce04]

​@@joe____Surprisingly, we actually didn't. He really is just that fast

[@SlayXc2]

@joe____ They did for TR Samson, but I failed. They didn't for Lost and I made the vid in 24h ... I guess I work better under pressure 😆

[@Amsel_616]

​@@opensauce04 Wow

[@joe____]

​@@SlayXc2pft, that's a whole mood tbh

[@vadim_65rus]

You know it's not an Isaac character when you need at least 11 minutes to explain him. I can only imagine the volume of your script

[@SlayXc2]

It is surprisingly hard to explain this one because a lot of the information only makes sense if you have the overall picture ^^' I hope I managed to do it somehow.

[@tiburones202]

Honestly, it’s actually one of the most simplest characters in the mod, tho explaining it takes way too long if you want every detail

[@vadim_65rus]

You did a great job as usual. What I meant is that epiphany characters have too much going on for them. The only epiphany char I liked is tarnished keeper. He is amazing and I wish an item like turnover was in the base game. I prefer when a character in tboi doesn't have too many mechanics like vanillas, arachna, job, samael

[@WeStrvn]

It's funny since this is probably our simplest character to date

[@tiburones202]

Also the actual explaining of the character is around 8 minutes long, 3~ minutes are the unlock

[@SentenceToDESU]

Ngl, Im very impressed by how creative creators of this mod are. Idk how strong or weak this character will turns out to be, but I really like how they took concept of Lost and raised it to the next level

[@ouravantgarde]

this character is very weak. im working on systemically demonstrating it, because right now the only reason to play this character is novelty and i want better for it

[@gentlepeeps3351]

@@ouravantgardeit doesn’t seem like but maybe it is

[@opatzo9165]

@@gentlepeeps3351from my initial observation this character risk reward level is not that good. You still have the same risks as Tlost but the reward you get isn’t that good. 12 charges for a 2-4 reroll isn’t quite mediocre + while you’re waiting for charge you have no holy mantle. However you need to explore all rooms for charges = higher chances to randomly die. Tears mutiplier is nice but dmg multiplier is usually much better for early game(which this character struggles with because no better item)

[@ThorDude]

​@@opatzo9165I guess all that's left is the challenge then. And Lost has always been about that so I guess it balances out?

[@opatzo9165]

@@ThorDude yes lost is indeed about challenge but ya know, you get actual good benefits to make up for the drawbacks making it more satisfying. No shame to the mod of course.

[@gaminggeckos4388]

Aw, I was hoping he’d look overgrown, cuz the locked door for him had flowers and vines growing out of it

[@alsartsavience3512]

I think an unfinished version of tarnished Lost that was available only in a previous wave/update looked a bit more like what you are describing. Oh well, i guess this teaches us that the current doors design are not indicative of how the tarnished characters will look.

[@LoraLoibu]

no, he's just hella dusty

[@nejoi412]

Lost: kay we windows Tained Lost: depression and ptsd Tarnished Lost: its over

[@IF_Y0UR3_BLE3D1NG_UND0]

Its joever

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Windows?

[@thenumber24]

WEEE WINDOOOOOOOOOOOOWSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

[@cogahan]

Ngl, I thought Tarnished Lost was just that he dies immediately when he leaves the starting room for shits and giggles

[@superlionrw]

the cycle: 1. A tainted lost grabs all the shards and goes to the attic 2: this tainted lost has a breakdown and becomes tarnished 3: another tainted lost finds the now tarnished lost 4: the cycle continues

[@Gamefan111]

So that explains the cutscene

[@sunset7956]

4:40 Ah yes, butter bean, one of the strongest items in the entire game.

[@josecorzo5517]

That is wait what

[@guydudething2795]

Butter bean is great

[@klaus.sfc01official30]

I just love how creative not only the characters but also the unlocks for all of the tarnished characters are.

[@Fahimlol]

Meanwhile how to unlock tainted characters: take cracked key to home, thats it

[@gaminggeckos4388]

4:29 AKTUALLY, contact items are pretty GOOD as the Lost. (Not T.Lost or Tr.Lost though.) This is because when you're nearly at the end of a room (both normal rooms and boss rooms), you can just SLAM YOUR FACE straight into the enemy. Because your Mantle is about to recharge anyways! With The Virus, I like to call this the "poison punch."

[@hal0w_]

oh wow im here in only 2 minutes also hell yeah! we finally got a new tarnished character! i think its a really nice detail that tarnished lost is in the attic, and we can see the lost in the attic, talking to mom in one dream (unless its a mod i have installed)

[@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA]

It's not a mod

[@tiburones202]

It’s from the base game

[@hal0w_]

@@tiburones202 yeah i assumed. i have the neko lost mod which changes a lot of minor cosmetic things in the base game so there could have been a chance that the mod added something too

[@CartoDarko]

​@@hal0w_🤮

[@enbeyy]

I can't believe Tarnished Lost came out on my birthday, this has been the best day ever

[@distinguishedkorok]

Happy cake day

[@enbeyy]

@@distinguishedkorok thanks mate

[@duck314]

this character resembles my mentality right now

[@specterx2135]

That cutscene really felt like it was affirming depressive feelings

[@jmonkey106]

:( You're loved, you can get thru it brotha

[@EithanPereira-bb9cw]

:) You are not loved, you cant get through it gurl

[@specterx2135]

@@EithanPereira-bb9cw no.

[@duck314]

@@EithanPereira-bb9cw damn, thanks

[@Your_pkmn_Rival]

He looks like he lost what was important to him and became depressed… and that cutscene just adds. I also find it fitting you find him in the attic of the house Edit: Now that I think about it it’s sort of like resemblance of the item rock bottom but that’s just my own opinion

[@NightwolfRainbow6Siege]

He lost his sacred orb. So tainted lost essentially lost what made him cool. So now he’s tarnished. But he’s making the best of what he’s got

[@syafiqsomplak9712]

​@@NightwolfRainbow6Siegethat's why he's carrying a broken sacred orb, it's his old sacred orb

[@NightwolfRainbow6Siege]

@@syafiqsomplak9712 Ik. That’s why I said “making the best of what he’s got”

[@syafiqsomplak9712]

Yea

[@danolantern6030]

Idk about Isaac lore, but it feels like they’re trying to make some kind of prayer, but are ignored and eventually abandoned.

[@Phoenix-kn8uk]

0:45 if you don’t go back to the starting room and just go to the next floor, you will also find that it is on the floor of that starting room, ready to be picked up.

[@KrulKrukuw]

This is so brilliant and works so well with the gameplay, but yet is so complicated and "overengineered" that I don't think a character like this would ever fit in the base game. Very nice tho, Isaac mod creators will never cease to surprise me.

[@tronco.3935]

Actually, i think this time, isn't as "gimmicky" as always, at least it's better than tarnished keeper

[@joe____]

Conceptually I think it's really simple tbh. Your pocket active is also your holy mantle, and you can "spend" it to level it up. If you spend it while an item is in the room, it rerolls the item instead of leveling it up, and the item quality depends on the level of your pocket active.

[@ihavethebrainofarat2309]

That's just how Tarnished characters are tbh, but I honestly like how complicated some of em are. Tarnished Eden's been my favorite one so far

[@somerandomone]

very interesting balance at all fronts. he is the perfect middle ground between stock Lost and Tainted Lost. looking forward for people trying him out.

[@FunniBSSFan]

Lost said "😔"

[@5uperM]

RISE YE TARNISHED!

[@xann2681]

so basically the most optimal way to play tarnished lost is to always go for alt paths for the boss challenge rooms and use your active as much as you can, even if it leaves you one hit, it doesnt get more self imposed challenge than this, amazing character

[@IncoisaRadio87]

I remember recommending on the discord some sort of mechanic where you break your own mantle to reroll... Obviously I'm not taking credit for this idea, the execution is way different (and better) than what I was envisioning and they probably had this idea before I recommended it. Still very cool to see it fully realized though!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Don’t sell yourself short or undervalue yourself. They most likely did steal your idea and run with it, and give you no credit/payment for it. People are selfish jackholes, and I say this as someone with experience in similarly getting taken advantage of when I was younger by people in a professional industry who knew exactly what they were doing in getting free work out of me, whilst I had no idea I was working for free.

[@IncoisaRadio87]

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 Sir, don't assume I didn't know my ideas could be used. I posted them in a public discord, where people were sharing their ideas that they wanted to see in the game. I was no different. Plus: it's an Isaac mod. It's not that fucking deep.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@IncoisaRadio87 If you say so...

[@MathewSan_]

Great video 👍

[@nycolleamendez5608]

I know this video is like almist a year old but the unlocking scene made me tear up a lot, so much feelings there with no dialogue

[@papomontero8493]

This is gonna break kazymattman’s mind

[@sharingrey2433]

"I need Batteries", the Character

[@Twitter-hater]

Tarnished, i appreciate thy showcases.

[@texasstyle5315]

The character is really unique and well done. But I don't know about the recharge system, there could be an other way rather than nerf the batteries. Idk to me it ruins the whole concept of the batteries

[@RainbowGod666]

Finally, the Loster

[@sugarbun9036]

I love how original the tarnished characters are, introducing mechanics and items that significantly change the gameplay, as opposed to other C side mods that just make the char outright stronger

[@alsartsavience3512]

What other mods to the "C side" thing?

[@SnoFitzroy]

Last time an Isaac cutscene hit me in the feels that hard was the first time I saw the Dogma ending. The Epiphany team really knows what they're doing and they clearly have studied up on the lore.

[@form5]

I hope they will make Tarnished Lazarus a better character, rather tainted Lazarus no one playing...

[@alsartsavience3512]

They made Tarnished Eden, which is pretty much Tainted Eden if it was an actual fun character to play with.

[@Necrus]

I'm a simple man, I see a SlayXc2 video, I glick.

[@oh_no787]

glick

[@Necrus]

​@@oh_no787Don't act like you don't know it was intentional

[@littlemrdoom5997]

Glick

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

How original.

[@giantmelon9025]

When they make tarnished blue baby he should start with a pocket active item called 'mega shart' which functions like mega blast but instead of shooting a blood laser from your mouth you're shitting a shart laser from your arse.

[@RafaCB0987]

A really challenging character

[@bennie1079]

I WAS LITERALLY LOOKING AT THIS MOD YESTERDAY THINKING TO MYSELF WHEN THEY WILL RELEASE A NEW CHARACTER

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Another tarnished banger really cool

[@tiburones202]

Watching this video while playing with TrLost I just want to say that the unlocks are amazing

[@gallidomgallade2944]

when that one ray of hope you have errodes

[@KingMPHS]

Such a great mod & great showcasing! I also bet the next Tarnished character is Azazel. Because he's basically "Brimstone at home".

[@wingwang2234]

i think it's more fair when higher level divine remnant rerolls item to fixed tier, like level 3 rerolls to tier 4 and level 2 to tier 3, but you can only reroll one item at a time. because you take a lot of time and efforts to reach high levels, so why not be worth it?

[@CoolSaver]

Too op

[@wingwang2234]

@@CoolSaver i had this idea because i didn't fully know how it charges. now i think it's op too

[@burgertable]

0:02 *sigh* Unlock: "piece IE together?"

[@Doge-zb7ku]

This is a really interesting character

[@Gamefreak422]

Mattman hat den Charakter jetzt auch gespielt bei ihm hab ich das gesehen und einer seiner Kommentare hat mich zu dir gebracht bzw hat dein Namen erwähnet jetzt schau ich es bei dir an die genaueren stats und Eigenschaften des Chars😂

[@adamzs545]

Can you do a video on the tarnished isaac rework ?

[@light6666]

Tbh with tarnished lost any charge items are amazing simply cause of the pocket item spesificly any that spawn batteries

[@fruity-plum-guy]

YO LET'S GOOOOO

[@BasementDweller_]

Was hoping for Lost with the ability to not being able to get the holy mantle effect.

[@ryder_4435]

just finished playing a few runs with the new character (from whcih I definetly didn't lose them all) and he is really fun, but is also probably the second hardest if not the hardest character in the game, having to choose between defense and offense adds a lot of depth but if you can't stay away from taking damage, you're toast

[@Not_Navarro]

I have only one thing to say: Fuck, I'm going to have a stroke! 💀💀💀

[@mr_avokado_man]

Wow it's incredible how much worse this character is than both other losts. The tainted chars usually aren't worse than their normal counterparts, they just drastically change a certain mechanic in the game or are just different than their counterparts. I see that the mod makers just thought "how can we make this character worse/weaker/less fun?" Great job.

[@adrianpaz7088]

Tarnished Lost is so sad. He boke his Sacred Orb and became depressed

[@killer_hoh478]

I'm gonna be honest but he sounds so much easier than tainted lost because he can always grt th3 mantl3 back as long as ue doesn't take damage for a few roms combined with ability to get decent quality items whenever he wants

[@chorizord6974]

Oh no! Our orb! It's broken!

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

Time to play how long before Lava finds this and decided to torture herself

[@johandythegifteddigitalbee]

2:32

[@tf_deadfish0491]

this character is actually challenging, unlike tarnished keeper

[@Hellinathebozo]

I'm from the discord and I'm very early here

[@SmashKid15]

It would have been nice to know that's how to unlock him yesterday. I did a run to Beast following the vague hint and won. Still iffy on having to use the unlock command built-in. Other than that, he's cool.

[@qua_xor3348]

So its like... More survivablity than normal lost in exchange for bad items?

[@stork7892]

in the first part you only need to kill the boss not the entire floor😉 so its easier

[@turrny]

So basically it's a safe and weak or risky and strong character

[@s0landtb]

5:17 Bro started game and beat then in 9 seconds

[@Metro_Stalin_Mayer]

Now does the mod of "The Lost Existential Dread" work on him?

[@Equuary]

The bedrooms don't seem to spawn at all for me, has the unlock method been changed or is something wrong with my game?

[@kennethabdieljaraabate7506]

FINALY!

[@suffer4742]

What are the new items with the update?

[@boobookiityf2898]

Personally i played them extremely greedy, but the mere moment i get an alternative reroll OR a really good item, i will instantly divebomb into being super careful and keeping remnants charged like my life depends on it.

[@gunsevenwhillans420]

Graceless Tarnished. What is thy business with these thrones? Ahh.. ..Godrick the Golden. The twin prodigies, Miquella and Malenia. General Radahn. Praetor Rykard. Lunar Princess Ranni.. ..Wilful traitors, all! ...Thy kind are all of a piece... ...Pillagers, emboledened by the flame of ambition! Have it writ upon thy meagre grave: "Felled by King Morgott, last of all kings."

[@PoopBrimmer6372]

I feel pensive because of that cutscene

[@LordRemiem]

THAT cutscene made me cry 😢

[@Dertli_dolap]

Hmm

[@BryleXzaijanSalalima]

That was very sad like isaac to slight stay in the basement for long

[@Banana21219]

cool character

[@alastor5291]

what is the end music?

[@charlottesemicolon3]

ok but whens the neko tarnished lost coming

[@SillySmol]

I got geniuenly confused that the holy card was not a pop-tart

[@papomontero8493]

Awesome

[@hg5172]

Tarnished Lost's Exisential Dread

[@5uperM]

I'm trying to understand the cutscene. What exactly happend in it?

[@SlayXc2]

I think he rebuilds his pocket item or something like that

[@ghoulbuster1]

Secret DEEPEST lore that only edmund knows

[@5uperM]

@@SlayXc2 yeah but what broke it?

[@DzonySzew]

Cutscene be like : Real

[@Zgrywus100]

what about tarnished Samson?

[@bennie1079]

IS THIS A DOUBLE RELEASE JUST LIKE LAST TIME? : D WILL WE GET ANOTHER CHARACTER ALONG WITH LOST?

[@alsartsavience3512]

Very much doubt it. However, this wave also reworked Tarnished Isaac.

[@alsartsavience3512]

Now for the forbidden question: Are you going to do a character guide on Tarnished Samson eventually? You, uhm....kind of skipped him I noticed. Edit: Additionally, this wave also reworked Tarnished Isaac, making his gameplay far more interesting. So that's a potential video to make if you feel like.

[@draw2death421]

Ill just say it so no one else needs to: *FOUL TARNISHED!*

[@lucyerickson8314]

Hello @SlayXc2 i am here to remind you that this mod has updated

[@elkk8943]

Finaly 🗿🗿 mega Ultra hard mod

[@qua_xor3348]

Tarnished Lost is actually easier. In terms of stats. The perks he gets are quite way worse than tainted lost's if you think about it. Still a way of getting health back easily is great.

[@tiburones202]

It’s easier than Tlost according to some devs

[@Goaldede]

I must extinguish thy flames or smthing idk (I've never played issac befor)

[@Mossenstein]

im gonna tarnish

[@KEPKA.2731]

MY FAVORITE CHARACTER FROM ISAAC IS NOW WITH tarnished VERSIONS!!!!

[@Hi_Gourdgeous]

Lazy mattman next video

[@squidtilus0.400]

Cool.

[@arrowtongue]

this is so much better than t.lost's design, such wasted potential making the mantle-less character actually have potential for even more mantle out of pure rng, it makes it very hard to play him, this looks much more consistent and dynamic to play

[@Jamraccoon47]

How am I going to beat a tarnished lost run without butter bean! That's impossible!

[@DefiledDame]

I had an idea for a tarnished lost that could possess enemies and the creators of the mod thought it was lame :c

[@tiburones202]

I'm sorry but it does not go with the character progression of lost at all, just because lost is a ghost doesn’t mean that it needs to have possessing abilities

[@SHINIES_REIMAGINED]

What does ie mean

[@jacho4625]

This was so damn long for a character description

[@Pinhead-x8y]

Cool

[@june9914]

Strangely enough I’ve found tarnished the lost easier than tainted

[@Просто_Иван]

No Bethany book😭 bruh

[@feefington]

regular lost is risk & rewards tainted lost is MORE risk & MORE rewards tarnished lost is *THE MOST* risk & *THE MOST* rewards