Tasigur the Golden Fang | Sultai Lands Commander Deck Tech

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Jumbo Commander

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@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
I made a budget friendly list for people interested. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigur-lands-that-isnt-three-grand/ I hope that helps people build this awesome strategy. Cheers!
@smargio
@smargio 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander Thanks. That is super awesome of you.
@jeremiahpenny8994
@jeremiahpenny8994 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome love what you do #1 favorite series had a ? for you would you be willing to create a Memnark Deck Tech? Thanks again
@benjaminkoskinen5835
@benjaminkoskinen5835 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah Penny sorry for down voting your comment BUT Memnark is the WORST commander general. For everyone else I mean. If U make it copetitive NO ONE will play against you. NO one like having their cards taken all the time and all over and over..
@jeremiahpenny8994
@jeremiahpenny8994 7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Koskinen understandable actually just wanted a better understanding of how mymnarch decks work I play against a great memnarch deck and I'm new to magic and it's super irritating so how about a deck tech with the general idea of making a memnarch deck cry...lol
@benjaminkoskinen5835
@benjaminkoskinen5835 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah Penny haha well I don't think that is a good idéa :P BUT U can make a silverbullet deck (deck filled with hate creatures/cards and a lot of search effects) and have 1 or 2 cards against Memnark ;D for example artifact removal
@antareklause8779
@antareklause8779 5 жыл бұрын
Would be great to get an update for this, with the new commander 2019 sultai cards
@danniandersen3585
@danniandersen3585 6 жыл бұрын
Just Pulled a Tasigur as a Box Topper. Its gotta be a sign. Merry Christmas DJ, DEA from Denmark.
@Foxribble19
@Foxribble19 5 жыл бұрын
Nice bling for your commander.
@scoobg21
@scoobg21 Жыл бұрын
Great list. Making something similar with Tasigur. You should do an updated version with all goodies released since this deck tech.
@kingsniff
@kingsniff 6 жыл бұрын
@jumbo commander Will you be updating this deck soon? :^)
@pops91
@pops91 7 жыл бұрын
I have a sultan deck that I've been wanting to do stuff like this for a while thank you soo much, I actually have Asuka lost but seeking that has this exactly but I've always wanted to add other cards that aren't mono green
@jedediahsahl390
@jedediahsahl390 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. As a complete noob in commander this genuinely helped out.
@newhampshirenate
@newhampshirenate 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for elves with delve. Dare I hope for twelve elves with delve?
@PhazonOmega
@PhazonOmega 6 жыл бұрын
I love you XD
@carlospineda1938
@carlospineda1938 6 жыл бұрын
😂👌🏽
@FrowningTable
@FrowningTable 5 жыл бұрын
12 12-mana 12/12 elves with delve
@enemene22
@enemene22 2 жыл бұрын
Hey DJ! I'm building Tasigur now, and I'm wondering... what swaps would you make to this list with all the new cards in the past 4 years?
@madbluemage5446
@madbluemage5446 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander I would love to see your spin on a Maelstrom Wanderer list. You make some of the best commander content on KZbin so I'd love to see how build the Cascade king.
@dboeify
@dboeify 7 жыл бұрын
Another fun land sacrifice enchantment that could work well (fits really well in a gitrog monster deck) is Squandered Resources. If you are preparing for a really big turn, it can provide a great boost in mana
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! That's all in, I love it.
@gotmoore69
@gotmoore69 7 жыл бұрын
I have a damia, sage of stone deck thats pretty similar to this but plans to build a huge amount of lands, bank mana with kruphix and has a few more x spells (blue and green suns zenith, genesis wave, chord of calling). My dream end build is similar to this deck but its a bit out of my budget atm unfortunately. Definitely going to use your deck as a reference tho to take inspiration from
@namelessking3219
@namelessking3219 7 жыл бұрын
Sick deck. Lobe the idea of an instant speed utility land plays... but i also wanna sack then and play them again to get the around the upkeep cost or to bog again... teehee. I run tasigur zombie tribal cuz my meta isnt strong enough to handle the tasigur ((bullshit control ramp deck id end up building)) loved the deck tech, please never quit
@raymondcarter4335
@raymondcarter4335 Жыл бұрын
Lol I am doing mill/self mill delve for selection, Deadbridge Chant randomness for the “lols”
@ad45376
@ad45376 7 жыл бұрын
since this is a heavy lands deck you can add in dakamor salvage along with an eldrazi or gaea's blessing and a skirge familiar to generate infinate mana if you have a gitrog monster on the battlefield. lol it slots in pretty easily into the deck.
@samhalsey2155
@samhalsey2155 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Tasigur/Villianous Wealth deck and it is so much fun to play. No one even complains when i hit them with VW and think its hilarious.
@robertcolbert232
@robertcolbert232 7 жыл бұрын
Been a huge fan of yours for quite a few months now and I would absolutely LOVE to see you make a Zurgo Bellstriker deck tech. It won't be necessarily good, BUT, just the fact you can cast him for 2 mana each turn from the command zone, and put him back to it at the end of the turn instead of to your hand with his Dash cost, makes for a fun time (or at least I think).
@devingordon926
@devingordon926 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's been 5 years, but dash is affected by commander tax, as a heads up.
@robertcolbert232
@robertcolbert232 2 жыл бұрын
@devingordon926 I have since learned this haha I wish the cards that said, "number of times you cast your commander," didn't also specify, "from the command zone." That would he a fun ass deck
@devingordon926
@devingordon926 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertcolbert232 try Background tribal Karona. The backgrounds say commander creatures you OWN, so she gets all your background effects no matter who has her
@derrickp.8927
@derrickp.8927 7 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on Herald of Leshrac, saccing your opponent's lands for harrows. and chromatic lantern just for some color fixing(i like it for 3 or more colored decks)
@zesock5280
@zesock5280 7 жыл бұрын
Death rite shaman has always been an all-star in commander ( it's not hard to make mana when you have fetchlands and your opponents have fetchlands) with villainous wealth what do you do about homeward path? Have you considered Yawgmoth's will in the deck? Do you die to armageddon?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Great questions. If they sandbag a homeward path then I kinda die. Hopefully I have enough land destruction to interact with Homeward Path before I Villainous Wealth. YawgWill is awesome it could easily be included. I'm actually OK against Armageddon because I have so many lands and so much recursion I can rebuild faster. This deck is really weak to simple control strategies I lean really heavily on Boseju to protect me. Cheers
@nathanmarcano3171
@nathanmarcano3171 7 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine built Sultai Good-Stuff with Tasigur as the commander. It is a super political deck and really makes use of that Delve. Turn 1.) Island, tap Island, Tome Scour on self. Turn 2.) Swamp, Delve 2, tap tap, 4/5 on turn 2. I find that this build doesn't seem to have much of a board, so how might you deal with things like Infect, Goblins, Elves or Humans?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
It honestly depends on how fast your opponents decks are. To adjust to this metagame I would throw in an extra few early boardwipes. I run Toxic Deluge
@StrongButAwkward
@StrongButAwkward 7 жыл бұрын
You should generally accept the Tempt with Discovery offer and choose to fetch up a Strip Mine or Wasteland. That way the opponent only gets the second best land they choose. If all 3 opponents do this they get the 4th best land. Ramp or combo decks looking to tutor up a piece need to be answered in this manner. Main exception is if you know the opponent can get the lands back immediately, or if they get something out of the lands entering/leaving the battlefield. So generally land recursion decks need to be denied the extra lands even if you can strip them.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Good strategy!
@Inactiveshooter_
@Inactiveshooter_ 7 жыл бұрын
Trade routes would be a great inclusion in this deck I think. Especially alongside glacial chasm and Bojuka bog
@deadey0111
@deadey0111 7 жыл бұрын
great decktech. maybe Courser of Kruphix is good in this deck ??
@savagez34
@savagez34 7 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Been waiting on this one!
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx 7 жыл бұрын
Considering it's a 3 color deck, I'd definitely add Chromatic Lantern in place of a land, not sure which one though. Nevertheless, I like it a lot!
@OmarIbrahim86
@OmarIbrahim86 7 жыл бұрын
Dude I always enjoy your videos. i got the crazy idea to use tasigur in a heavy artifact theme. with glissa golgari artifact lady. but i just can't put it together
@JSlayer57
@JSlayer57 7 жыл бұрын
If you're going lands you have to go all in! My Omnath, Locus of Rage deck runs 80. My friend's Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis deck runs 90. 45 is just weak
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Even my silly Ashling deck didn't run 90 lands. The real question is what kind of basics are you running? With that many they better be pimped out :)
@JSlayer57
@JSlayer57 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander Full art Noah Bradley
@JSlayer57
@JSlayer57 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander Though the 90 land deck actually doesn't run too many basics, they're all snow covered
@fragarach97
@fragarach97 7 жыл бұрын
I do something somewhat similar with my Karametra deck, it ends up being quite a bit of fun. Knight of the Reliquary just ends up being a three mana win condition if she sticks around too long... But one lands I feel got ignored when you were talking about them is Mirrorpool. I personally find it to be a very strong card with a nice of a versatility. In your deck, copying a big Villainous Wealth would be hysterical, would it not?
@-KillaWatt-
@-KillaWatt- 7 жыл бұрын
Keigan Scott-Lynch Villianous Wealth is one of those cards that just needs to go off once. I usually never need more than one casting of it to basically win the game.
@canackcanack
@canackcanack 6 жыл бұрын
Dramatic Scepter combo with mana rocks is pretty good with Tasigur. Infinite mana -> draw your whole deck -> kill everyone.
@Cristian-gj7fg
@Cristian-gj7fg 7 жыл бұрын
So many lands, do you think Jolrael, Empress of Beasts could be a good addition?
@JordanCirksena
@JordanCirksena 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting deck! Love your videos so keep up the good work! I use to run Child of Alara lands EDH, ran all the duels and shocks with Plains in the subtype (plus a few basic plains) to abuse emeria the sky ruin and sacrifice outlets for child. This deck looks like a lot of fun but I'm curious how good archfiend and krosan tusker are within the deck. They don't seem to do a lot? Maybe I'm missing something, but obnix the fallen seems like it should be in here, as well as a few reanimation spells. My friend use to run kederekt leviathan and animate dead/necromancy to have a cyclonic rift for everyone whenever he pleases, since both enchantments go back to hand when it enters so you can do it again! Something to think about, keep up the awesome content man.
@TheRoltonFan
@TheRoltonFan 7 жыл бұрын
WOW! Such a good video for such a Tasigur edh lover as myself ;D Have you ever considered Collective Voyage(or other multiplayer ramp spell)/mind grind? A big mana Tasigur deck will always want this bad boy ;))
@vantheman8050
@vantheman8050 7 жыл бұрын
Ive wanted to build this deck for a while.
@nitaipaonessa3996
@nitaipaonessa3996 7 жыл бұрын
Urborg and cobal coffers. Auto include right?
@midnightstudies
@midnightstudies 7 жыл бұрын
nitai paonessa yep
@martinolsen7183
@martinolsen7183 7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for making this deck! I am brewing around with tasigur these days and I was looking for something awesome like this because i think Villainous Wealth looks like sooo much fun! There was definitely some cards i didn't know existed that I will include in my deck! Have you considered using World Breaker in the deck? I think it would fit quite nicely... :)
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
+Martin Olsen yeah world breaker fits really well. I'm going to put one in my build right now, cheers!
@Guinea779
@Guinea779 7 жыл бұрын
you made a video for tasigar but gave me ideas for my Gitrog deck that's currently in the works lol
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Good luck building
@kingofrunescapepking
@kingofrunescapepking 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Damia doesn't force you into one specific strategy either
@gotmoore69
@gotmoore69 7 жыл бұрын
agreed, my damia is eventually going to be similar to his deck (once i have the funds that is)
@kingofrunescapepking
@kingofrunescapepking 7 жыл бұрын
I'm debating actually playing around with this deck online
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
+Ed Kell true, she is just solid value.
@colbydavis2555
@colbydavis2555 5 жыл бұрын
This is making me wanna play tasigur
@SpliffG707
@SpliffG707 6 жыл бұрын
I am subbed my friend keep up these videos. I know this is an old one. I just like your style.
@austinwickett8486
@austinwickett8486 3 жыл бұрын
Field Of The Dead Would Be Nutty In This Strategy!!!
@MetalSnakeBoogy
@MetalSnakeBoogy 6 жыл бұрын
I can see Muldrotha working with Tasigur.
@therealnetherknight
@therealnetherknight 7 жыл бұрын
Love the deck, makes me want something similar! Btw why no Cabal Coffers???
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
I usually don't like it in 3 color decks but I got all this land searching for a reason right?!?! So I should have it.
@therealnetherknight
@therealnetherknight 7 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, if there's ever a 3 color deck to play coffers it's this one.
@Richthofen100
@Richthofen100 7 жыл бұрын
The problem in my playgroup is that everyone runs at least 2-3 graveyard hate cards. So all graveyard decks have a hard time. Meaning noone in my playgruop plays them :(
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
THEN ... people get lazy and start replacing their GY hate with interesting new cards because "no one even plays with the graveyard anymore" then .... BAM there you are with all the graveyard shenanigans!
@Richthofen100
@Richthofen100 7 жыл бұрын
I wish haha
@harbear6276
@harbear6276 7 жыл бұрын
Oh hey I'm currently building a Tasigur deck, and I almost have it done I just need a few more cards. (its here if your would like to know tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigur-sultai-dictator/ ) How does it look?
@TheJPKaram
@TheJPKaram 7 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting deck Though it cost over 2000$ on tapped out so i'm guessing there are some specific cards that are very expensive i am going to have to cut
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
I made a budget version as well. (tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigur-lands-that-isnt-three-grand/)
@TheJPKaram
@TheJPKaram 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander cool thanks a lot :)
@dave7592
@dave7592 7 жыл бұрын
3000 dollars :-'(. I know it might be extra work but maybe when you do these deck techs you could include budget options.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
+david saraj I know.... It's prohibitably expensive but more than half of that is a single card. I wanted the list to show off the lands... remember you can run a basic heavy deck and take advantage of those really effecient ramp spells. If there is demand I'll make up a list but I don't think I'll do it for every deck. I do try and switch up the budget levels from video to video. I have an awesome budget centered video coming out soon to look forward to.
@DemonOfMyMind
@DemonOfMyMind 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Jund Lands deck that has some similarities to this deck that is far more budget friendly. Its like, 200-300 dollars. I'll link it for you if you want to take a look. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/xiras-mud-hill/ Jund opens you up to quite a few good budget options and lets you do some interesting things with a few creatures. My deck isn't complete or optimized quite yet I'm still missing a few key pieces but it is functional. And it too has a janky infinite combo in it that requires you to be milled out. It also uses seasons past. But this deck takes self mill to its extreme and uses some really interesting cards that are sleepers in our format. Spellshapers are sleepers in our format. No one really thinks of them. They often go ignored and even Jumbo Commander didn't mention them as amazing budget options for a lands deck. Greenseeker and undertaker are the two in my deck and I've used them to great effect. They might seem rather innocuous at face value but they are perfect since you're trying to grind out the game a lot of times with lands decks. Dreamscape Artist is a notable one if you're going to use a Sultai lands deck and you don't have the budget that Jumbo Commander has. It sacs a land to search for 2 basics. Which is great! its ramp and combos with hypnotoad. Hermit Druid isn't an unknown Card by any stretch of the imagination, and its quite a popular and powerful combo piece. But its worth mentioning as in some decks its used to instantly win the game. The Manland cycle is one that can often just break out of the gate and surprise someone. These creature lands can hit hard on an empty board that previous wrath spells might have opened for you. If you're running the hypnotoad I don't see a reason not to run Squandered Resources. Especially if you are also running Ramunap Excavator, Splendid Reclamation, and Titania, Protector of Argoth. So.. yeah.. Have any other questions, just have a look and let me know. I know what would be great for the deck, you don't need to tell me that. But maybe it'll give you some ideas. And if you're wondering... Why Xira? Well, she doesn't draw aggro but does draw cards.. I feel that's reason enough.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
I made a budget version. Your input was spot on. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigur-lands-that-isnt-three-grand/
@dave7592
@dave7592 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander wow thanks for the quick update that's awesome. I was thinking about throwing a Sidisi reanimator deck together and can definitely see myself being able to throw this one together at the same time. Looks like a pretty fun deck to pilot and I never made a land matters deck. +1
@annamata4758
@annamata4758 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander I play Tasigur and I loooove him. I do some of the things in this build, to get me that extra Mana to play villainous wealth. That Mana also fits nicely into a Capsize strategy. A couple other things I do: I use mindslaver paired with Tasigur's activated ability on the controlled endstep to return mindslaver, creating a loop. This loop can control a pod with with Alchemist Refuge and Seedborn Muse effects, and a bit extra Mana than the initial 14 needed. And Tasigur decks seem to be resilient and a little extra, so I suppose this is fitting, but I like to reanimate Jin-Gitaxias early (without aquiring an infinite handsize), so I can play the new Archfiend of Infir, which ostensibly boardwipes every turn. And watching your videos, could get a little more insidious if I put Kambal in the deck.
@Coffeemancer
@Coffeemancer 7 жыл бұрын
please herald the coming of Shifting Shadows
@Lara-ht5zp
@Lara-ht5zp 5 жыл бұрын
Pendrell mists instead of tabernacle as a budget card
@benjaminkoskinen5835
@benjaminkoskinen5835 7 жыл бұрын
Just one thing.. Isn't Tasigur banned as a Commander? :/
@hallt13
@hallt13 7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Koskinen He is in French dual commander, but not multiplayer.
@zairejordan4410
@zairejordan4410 7 жыл бұрын
Do anafenza
@sinimini9641
@sinimini9641 7 жыл бұрын
love the deck
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Nice tech. Manabond is hilarious in Legacy Lands, I imagine it would be good in here too as long as we can refill our hand.
@456jm
@456jm 7 жыл бұрын
No Basalt Monolith to combo with Mesmeric Orb with Laboratory Maniac as a win con?
@CallMeOpti
@CallMeOpti 7 жыл бұрын
I literally just built the same commander and theme just this past weekend. Freaky
@jeeps95
@jeeps95 7 жыл бұрын
Love this! Seems like the link in the description is for an older deck and the cards you describe are actually here... tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sultai-lands-matter-featuring-tasigur/ Thanks for all the great content!
@travisbrandt8663
@travisbrandt8663 6 жыл бұрын
Jumbo. Scapeshift would be nice in this deck ;)
@faustolucanelli3944
@faustolucanelli3944 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome deck as always but how do you deal with graveyard hate
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Very poorly :) The deck can be slanted to either rely less on the graveyard or combat the graveyard hate. The budget version has less recursions and more big ramp spells like boundless realms. You can also tune the deck to disrupt the disruption in your meta. Sultai has a lot of answers and it could be as simple as a krosan grip.
@faustolucanelli3944
@faustolucanelli3944 7 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander as always thx a lot
@deathclaw3142
@deathclaw3142 7 жыл бұрын
Last week i found out that you cannot delve the commander tax
@dhdydg6276
@dhdydg6276 7 жыл бұрын
DeathClaw You actually can. The commander tax is an additional cost, so it is added on to the cost of the spell before the cost is actually paid. Then, since it is part of the cost of the spell and costs generic mana, delve allows you to exile cards instead of paying the mana as you pay for the cost of the spell. Delve also allows you to pay for any other cost increases requiring generic mana, such as the ability on an opponent's Grand Arbiter Augustin IV.
@sonsysy4195
@sonsysy4195 7 жыл бұрын
Marsh Flitter + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle = Infinite mana
@cthulhup.o.o.f4906
@cthulhup.o.o.f4906 6 жыл бұрын
You have to have villainous wealth irl to build this deck
@88Hyo
@88Hyo 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there's 6 sultai commanders. Mimeoplasm, Sidisi, Leovold, The dragon, the Gorgon and this guy.
@gotmoore69
@gotmoore69 7 жыл бұрын
Leovold is banned unfortunately, RIP my sultai Elves deck (well, it wasnt all elves ;) )
@stonerkebab9498
@stonerkebab9498 7 жыл бұрын
88Hyo Yes, leovold is banned.. but partners are possible :)
@88Hyo
@88Hyo 7 жыл бұрын
I thought Leovold was banned only on the french 1v1, that no one cares,
@BrunoCasagrandaNeves
@BrunoCasagrandaNeves 7 жыл бұрын
88Hyo nope: magic.wizards.com/en/content/commander-format
@88Hyo
@88Hyo 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to be wrong lol I HATE Leovold.
@1AbsoluteZERO
@1AbsoluteZERO 7 жыл бұрын
I have a deck very similar to this lol. I have made changes to my current version of it, but here is the gist of it: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigur-the-golden-lands/ . It is super fun with all of the synergies and interactions. :D
@bottomless_pete9705
@bottomless_pete9705 7 жыл бұрын
This looks fun. Needs more jank. Tunnel Vision into Splendid Reclamation(or a wincon if you've got splendid rec already) seems like it would be hilarious.
@Visteus
@Visteus 7 жыл бұрын
Played a deck very much like this (minus a lot of the better lands, very basic heavy) against my friend's new Scarab God deck. Stole his Chancellor of the Spires with Villainous Wealth, cast his Rise of the Dark Realms. Later on, plopped down my own Scarab God and eternalized Chancellor for another cast of Rise of the Dark Realms. Super Stupid
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@trixeracer8243
@trixeracer8243 5 жыл бұрын
I named my dog after this guy its a great name .
@bernardorico8927
@bernardorico8927 7 жыл бұрын
I have one super janky combo in my Tasigur deck, you'll need the following. -Seasons Past. -Any combination of tutors, two. -Beast within. -Cyclonic Rift. -Peregrine Drake. -Deadeye Navigator. First you need infinite mana with Peregrine Drake + Deadeye Navigator combo, now you cast Beast Within and destroy any permanent, cast your tutor finding Seasons Past, cast Seasons Past, cast yor second tutor to get Seasons Past again. Repeat this process until you destroy your opponent's board now that you have done that, cast your tutor finding Cyclonic Rift and then cast it for overload. Win.
@mtgsweden
@mtgsweden 7 жыл бұрын
Third!
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 7 жыл бұрын
First
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 7 жыл бұрын
Tasigur is a mono black commander, you can only use black cards.
@joshhoward2550
@joshhoward2550 7 жыл бұрын
Username Unidentified nope. colors in text box count.
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 7 жыл бұрын
No, it only counts the colors on the CMC part. I asked that question and it's been answered by many players including judges. Therefore, since Tasigur only has "5B" in his CMC, he is mono black. Just like how Crypt Ghast is mono black despite having a white symbol in his text box and Blind Obedience being mono white despite having black in the text box.
@usernameunidentified9874
@usernameunidentified9874 7 жыл бұрын
Niels Berg If his "color identity" is Sultai then his CMC would be "3UBG" instead of "5B". You just told me that Tasirgur's color is mono black so yeah, he can only use black spells. If you want, just use Damia in his place and use Tasigur in the 99.
@Cyberium
@Cyberium 7 жыл бұрын
Tasigur's color identity is UBG/Sultai. Mana symbols in text box counts towards a card's identity. You can find comprehensive ruling at mtgcommander.net/rules.php
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, let me clarify some stuff for everyone and answer some questions. I think many people that give information are to quick with their answers but and don't always give all of the information. What Color Identity is Tasigur? This is the definition of color identity from the official commander rules page. I know it isn't a wizards page but that's a whole additional issue. "A card's colour identity is its colour plus the colour of any mana symbols in the card's rules text." (Source: mtgcommander.com/rules.php) Notice how it mentions the "card's rules text" when calculating color identity. So if we are "adding up" Tasigur's color identity it would be black from his casting cost AND green & blue from his rules text. Then why is blind obedience a mono white color identity? I see the same symbol on that card! Here is blind obedience's oracle text: "Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay {W/B}. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.) Artifacts and creatures your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped." The part in parenthesis is "reminder text" NOT rules text. So this dodges the "rules text" part of the definition of color identity. Here is some information on reminder text from MTG Wiki. The important part of the quote below is that reminder text is present to illustrate the rules text not to be a rule itself. Also it shows how reminder text's purpose is to make things clearer but can actually make things more difficult ... case in point. "Reminder text is parenthesized text printed in italics that follows a keyword or some other ability that might be confusing to players. Reminder text summarizes the basic function of keywords or provides other information on how the rules affect the ability it follows. While it is intended to illustrate the rules to players, reminder text has no real effect on gameplay, and though it may illustrate the general meaning of a keyword's function, it is often not completely accurate, sacrificing technical accuracy for ease of understanding." (Source: mtg.gamepedia.com/Reminder_text) I hope this makes the whole point clearer. I think its important to go into detail because so often in magic we are just told how things are instead of why things are. Cheers
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